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[QUOTE=MpDuck;5331231]Human Trafficking Unit cited 8 men in an undercover operation, April 2021

So this just popped up in my news feed.

[URL]https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=301680[/URL]

I know as a hobbyist this is always a risk. I was wondering what advise any of you have in this situation or how not to get in this situation. Does anyone have any info on this operation? Stay safe out there![/QUOTE]I texted this one last week. Seemed too good to be true, 200 for anything, super hot and young, but I obviously was texting with a real person, not a booking fee scam. I was about to book but my LE spidey sense was working overtime, so I boged out. Told me she had a room by Mall 205, which turns to be where they were doing their sting. Close call!!

[URL]https://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/summer-snack-special/058637575331[/URL]

How does catching johns save the poor women who are the real victims of trafficking or punishing the pimps that are making them victims? Post an ad, scoop up some johns, that is easy for the police to get some headlines for fining and ruining the lives of 8 men without saving one woman.

[QUOTE=MpDuck;5331231]Human Trafficking Unit cited 8 men in an undercover operation, April 2021

So this just popped up in my news feed.

[URL]https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=301680[/URL]

I know as a hobbyist this is always a risk. I was wondering what advise any of you have in this situation or how not to get in this situation. Does anyone have any info on this operation? Stay safe out there![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MpDuck;5331231]Human Trafficking Unit cited 8 men in an undercover operation, April 2021

So this just popped up in my news feed.

[URL]https://www.portlandoregon.gov/police/news/read.cfm?id=301680[/URL]

I know as a hobbyist this is always a risk. I was wondering what advise any of you have in this situation or how not to get in this situation. Does anyone have any info on this operation? Stay safe out there![/QUOTE]Never, never discuss payment and services. For all the criticism Sara Fox gets she has solid advice on this.

Whenever I read on here "confirmed BBFS for $100 more" or anything like that I know the person is rolling the dice with the law. You can discuss donation, or discuss what you like to do, but doing both is incredibly risky. I end any conversation if a provider comes back with both a dollar amount and a list of available activities. Avoiding hotels is usually safer, avoiding unknown providers is usually safer, sticking with providers that are over 30 is usually safer. We criticize TNA a lot but you can at least know you aren't dealing with LE of you see a provider that has years of board presence.

At JJohnJack- may want to consider replacing your burner number (assuming you are using a burner app or phone).

[QUOTE=JJohnJack;5335564]I texted this one last week. Seemed too good to be true, 200 for anything, super hot and young, but I obviously was texting with a real person, not a booking fee scam. I was about to book but my LE spidey sense was working overtime, so I boged out. Told me she had a room by Mall 205, which turns to be where they were doing their sting. Close call!!

[URL]https://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/summer-snack-special/058637575331[/URL][/QUOTE]Seen those pics before. Glad you missed the sweep! Hot looking cop! Wonder how many officers she. Never mind.

They do this while the city burns.

Praise be it to those that purchased my PDX home. Thank you! LOL.

[QUOTE=JJohnJack;5335564]I texted this one last week. Seemed too good to be true, 200 for anything, super hot and young, but I obviously was texting with a real person, not a booking fee scam. I was about to book but my LE spidey sense was working overtime, so I boged out. Told me she had a room by Mall 205, which turns to be where they were doing their sting. Close call!!

[URL]https://portland.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/summer-snack-special/058637575331[/URL][/QUOTE]I wonder who her duo partner is.

[QUOTE=Benson008;5335809]How does catching johns save the poor women who are the real victims of trafficking or punishing the pimps that are making them victims? Post an ad, scoop up some johns, that is easy for the police to get some headlines for fining and ruining the lives of 8 men without saving one woman.[/QUOTE]Isn't the answer obvious? It takes two to tango. No johns, no business.

If its too good to be true IT IS use common scene never let the SW control the situation meet in different places hotel meet ups can always be a danger Either from a pimp a rob or LE.

Never let the girl talk to you at the window or say pull around the corner. Be discrete Also if on social medial like we all use noways. Keep up a chat thread for a long time. NEVER ANSWER A UNDERAGE GIRL ITS ALWAYS A COP lots of bait out there. Love the politician who got caught up. You are also right Never one girl saved Just lived ruined.

To me what is wrong with giving a girl for some money. We take them to dinner movies flowers shopping in hopes of sex after a date. So its a business transaction to me. But some girls are forced into it That is always wrong. Oh well my simplistic view. ALSO PPD seems to not have as much manpower as other counties so Be careful in other areas. Portland is overwhelmed with protests and diverted manpower to that.

Just my humble opinion which means nothing.

Stay safe GOOD WEATHER IS HERE so we can see what we are shopping for.

Saw your question about the sting.

A man I know got busted in a sting a few years back, he'd talked to the girl about pricing. She then asked him if he had condoms. See what I mean? Any connection between money and sex is dangerous. They get you to connect the two in any way via text or telephone then they arrest you when you knock on the door.

A burner phone is critical, I try to text, so they never get a recording of me saying anything. I stick to the barest of communication. "Hey, I go by X (not my real name) You don't know me, but I'd like to see you at 8, one hour appointment. " Nothing else. They often try to ask, "What do you want?" I don't answer that. If she gets freaky about it, I move on. Better safe. You've given a legit provider all the info she needs, 8 o'clock, one hour. She knows what you're there for, she's sucked 10 dicks today already so there's no need for that other shit. Keep in mind that LE wants to get you to connect the dots. They are going to hound you with questions, you like this, you want that?

It's hard these days. Providers used to be much more careful about not answering specific questions. These days we want to know "what's in the VIP package?" or "Do you do anal?" You mention anything sexual at all with any mention of money and LE's gotcha.

I try to stick to known local girls as best I can. Girls that have been around, girls that have reviews. Girls that other guys have seen. I avoid traveling girls, the "just in town for tonight. " type. I like variety, we all do, but "stranger danger. " An unknown can be bad news for several reasons, maybe LE or even if they aren't, they don't have to care about giving decent service. They don't have a rep here to protect. Not that that is stopping any of the local bitches lately. But anyway.

Watch out for the "too good to be true" ad. Like the one in the discussion. A 19 year old super model college girl that will do bareback GFE, swallow, anal, msog for less than your mortgage is likely a mirage.

I avoid incall as much as possible. LE can't control the situation in an outcall so chances are an outcall chick isn't a cop. I can't say outcall vs incall is truly better, both have different rewards / risks. Lots of reasons I like it better when I get to pick the ground.

I saw LE doing a sting once at a hotel. I'd texted the girl, got the heebie jeebies and blew it off. Peeked from a block away. They had the room set up with the girl for Johnny to knock on and they pounced from the adjacent room. Incall, with a girl I don't know, I like to surveil it first. Show up a half hour or so early, park a block or two away and peek from distance. Tyrone, LE, double booking. If there's a ton of dudes hanging around or moving back and forth to that room, I want to know beforehand.

I park the burner phone after the "I'm here" contact. I don't bring it with me. It's a good idea to have a cover story in advance. "What girl? I'm lost, I wanted to use the bathroom, I was told Damian Lillard was doing autograph signings here, whatever. " It won't stop them from the arrest but anything to make it that much harder for them.

I'm playing stupid. Never admit you're there to see the girl. No matter how dead to rights they say you are, or you think you are. Never admit it. Never. Keep repeating the same lie you said the first time. No matter what. "I just needed to use the bathroom. " Don't change your story, don't add any details. Do not talk to the cops. They are conducting a field interview to use against you, they aren't going to let you go no matter what you tell them. You show up, cops are there, you will be arrested. This part is about getting the charges dropped. You're going to be scared shitless. Fight that with everything you've got. Relax and stick to your story.

I bring my wallet, my actual phone, everything that a normal person would have. LE grabs you, they are going to get that anyway. I'm playing the part of the random citizen in the wrong place, wrong time. Show up with completely empty everything except condoms and the exact amount the ad says and they gotcha.

Ok this is turning into a novel. So research first, stick to known girls, burner phone, give no information / ask no questions, and don't be afraid to walk if something feels wrong. Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Trux1;5335968]Never, never discuss payment and services. For all the criticism Sara Fox gets she has solid advice on this.

Whenever I read on here "confirmed BBFS for $100 more" or anything like that I know the person is rolling the dice with the law. You can discuss donation, or discuss what you like to do, but doing both is incredibly risky. I end any conversation if a provider comes back with both a dollar amount and a list of available activities. Avoiding hotels is usually safer, avoiding unknown providers is usually safer, sticking with providers that are over 30 is usually safer. We criticize TNA a lot but you can at least know you aren't dealing with LE of you see a provider that has years of board presence.

At JJohnJack- may want to consider replacing your burner number (assuming you are using a burner app or phone).[/QUOTE]Yep. My app number is changed! First thing I did!

[QUOTE=JJohnJack;5336695]Yep. My app number is changed! First thing I did![/QUOTE]In other cities the ad was usually removed within a day or two. Not that I like playing with fire.

Thank you for the info. I and am sure that others appreciated the insight.

[QUOTE=AddledPated;5336452]Saw your question about the sting.

A man I know got busted in a sting a few years back, he'd talked to the girl about pricing. She then asked him if he had condoms. See what I mean? Any connection between money and sex is dangerous. They get you to connect the two in any way via text or telephone then they arrest you when you knock on the door.

A burner phone is critical, I try to text, so they never get a recording of me saying anything. I stick to the barest of communication. "Hey, I go by X (not my real name) You don't know me, but I'd like to see you at 8, one hour appointment. " Nothing else. They often try to ask, "What do you want?" I don't answer that. If she gets freaky about it, I move on. Better safe. You've given a legit provider all the info she needs, 8 o'clock, one hour. She knows what you're there for, she's sucked 10 dicks today already so there's no need for that other shit. Keep in mind that LE wants to get you to connect the dots. They are going to hound you with questions, you like this, you want that?

It's hard these days. Providers used to be much more careful about not answering specific questions. These days we want to know "what's in the VIP package?" or "Do you do anal?" You mention anything sexual at all with any mention of money and LE's gotcha.

I try to stick to known local girls as best I can. Girls that have been around, girls that have reviews. Girls that other guys have seen. I avoid traveling girls, the "just in town for tonight. " type. I like variety, we all do, but "stranger danger. " An unknown can be bad news for several reasons, maybe LE or even if they aren't, they don't have to care about giving decent service. They don't have a rep here to protect. Not that that is stopping any of the local bitches lately. But anyway.

Watch out for the "too good to be true" ad. Like the one in the discussion. A 19 year old super model college girl that will do bareback GFE, swallow, anal, msog for less than your mortgage is likely a mirage.

I avoid incall as much as possible. LE can't control the situation in an outcall so chances are an outcall chick isn't a cop. I can't say outcall vs incall is truly better, both have different rewards / risks. Lots of reasons I like it better when I get to pick the ground.

I saw LE doing a sting once at a hotel. I'd texted the girl, got the heebie jeebies and blew it off. Peeked from a block away. They had the room set up with the girl for Johnny to knock on and they pounced from the adjacent room. Incall, with a girl I don't know, I like to surveil it first. Show up a half hour or so early, park a block or two away and peek from distance. Tyrone, LE, double booking. If there's a ton of dudes hanging around or moving back and forth to that room, I want to know beforehand.

I park the burner phone after the "I'm here" contact. I don't bring it with me. It's a good idea to have a cover story in advance. "What girl? I'm lost, I wanted to use the bathroom, I was told Damian Lillard was doing autograph signings here, whatever. " It won't stop them from the arrest but anything to make it that much harder for them.

I'm playing stupid. Never admit you're there to see the girl. No matter how dead to rights they say you are, or you think you are. Never admit it. Never. Keep repeating the same lie you said the first time. No matter what. "I just needed to use the bathroom. " Don't change your story, don't add any details. Do not talk to the cops. They are conducting a field interview to use against you, they aren't going to let you go no matter what you tell them. You show up, cops are there, you will be arrested. This part is about getting the charges dropped. You're going to be scared shitless. Fight that with everything you've got. Relax and stick to your story.

I bring my wallet, my actual phone, everything that a normal person would have. LE grabs you, they are going to get that anyway. I'm playing the part of the random citizen in the wrong place, wrong time. Show up with completely empty everything except condoms and the exact amount the ad says and they gotcha.

Ok this is turning into a novel. So research first, stick to known girls, burner phone, give no information / ask no questions, and don't be afraid to walk if something feels wrong. Hope this helps.[/QUOTE]

[URL]https://www.wweek.com/news/2021/10/20/portland-polices-human-trafficking-arrests-arent-what-they-seem/[/URL]

Very tragic story of a Portland TNA provider murdered last week by a client in a suburb of Chicago:

[URL]https://www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20211123/news/211129703/[/URL]

Hopefully, this dude will never get to see the outside of Illinois state penitentiary again, but what a tragic loss and a terrible reminder of the dangers women face in this industry. Beautiful young woman, 28 years old, two young kids. Just so sad.

[QUOTE=Pussyholic;5650780]Very tragic story of a Portland TNA provider murdered last week by a client in a suburb of Chicago:

[URL]https://www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20211123/news/211129703/[/URL]

Hopefully, this dude will never get to see the outside of Illinois state penitentiary again, but what a tragic loss and a terrible reminder of the dangers women face in this industry. Beautiful young woman, 28 years old, two young kids. Just so sad.[/QUOTE]This is very upsetting. I never met her. He doesn't belong in the gene pool.

[QUOTE=Pussyholic;5650780]Very tragic story of a Portland TNA provider murdered last week by a client in a suburb of Chicago:

[URL]https://www.dailyherald.com/amp-article/20211123/news/211129703/[/URL]

Hopefully, this dude will never get to see the outside of Illinois state penitentiary again, but what a tragic loss and a terrible reminder of the dangers women face in this industry. Beautiful young woman, 28 years old, two young kids. Just so sad.[/QUOTE]What was her TNA handle?