Rookie Advice and Opinions

As for condoms, cops consider a hooker carrying one as evidence. this is insane! So what do the hookers do? they almost never have them on hand. This is just WRONG~!

TANG~!

GT,

Go with the flow. Ifin they don't have a condom, get a BBBJTCIM.

;-)

Peace

I had a question. Does LE do stings over the Internet? I had PM someone who had a report saying they were available.

The response I got back mentioned money. That pushed my paranoid button. It seems like discussing prices and services before the gal gets in the car.

How does one protect ones self from a sting in cases such as this?

I have no experience with an internet sting, but I would say they do have them. Talk money and service and then make the bust at the meeting place.

It's amazing how many mongers loose their heads when pussy is on the line and go for the sting. I feel so bad for the Johns I see getting hit on the street.

Back to internet stings, if you do an "outcall" at your place you are probably safer from stings. I've been weary of "incalls" in the past. I don't use escorts that much anymore, but when I did I made a few contacts in the business and could check things out before putting the call in for service.

Happy mongering.
Rolly

The answer about internet stings is YES.

A buddy of mine got caught up in one 2 years ago, in Quad Cities, on the Illinois side. The police arrested a woman who was using the net to get clients, and rolled over her email account and address book to the police. Incall setup was used.

They are also targeting members of RS2K in Chicago, primarily in the DuPage county area, but also downtown was hit in the last couple of months. It appears from the scuttlebutt that they're trying to go after the owner of that referral service - for what it isn't clear.

Hi Guy's,

This might be a dumb question. Forgive me I'm a newbee. I get girls mainly at Tijuana at Adelitas. But how would I go about asking a working girl if she is working or to actually say: I'll pay for services? I've seen some walking the streets of San Diego, i.e. El Cajon Blvd., but am a bit affraid that she might be a LE. I read this section and kinda get the idea but I don't have a car so I'd like to ask the SW to come to my place; I'd hunt in my area of course. I've also seem some escorts or\and working girls on the net which I've responded by e-mail to but they never get back to me. I am not directly saying I'll pay cash for sex. What would be the best way to direct my proposition? The ads on the net do have a phone number to them but I'm CHICKEN-SHIT, hahaha, sorry to call the number. I do appologize for my dumbness. Thanks. I've posted on the TJ section on girls if it helps anyone; or pm me.

Have fun and play safe guys.

Spartan

Snake;
"doubt this works if you are totally out of shape physically"

I have found one thing to be true, the more money you have the less atractive you need to be!

Good Points, I* am sure it happens everyday, I always heard about the 'dance' clubs in downtown LA but never tried them.

Follow-up on my message below from May.

In America it's a big challenge, and very inefficient, but I like a challenge !! Of course I can understand a guy just giving up and taking a flight to the DR or some other exotic location, but consider the pleasures of hunting a semi-pro ! A young woman who doesn't consider herself a full-time prostitute. And there isn't much other choice in my town, as the police are all over the real pros.

I've become more skillful at this in recent years. I don't have the best game and probably look absurd compared to the guy in the Houston section who has posted fascinating stories about dating 10s from strip bars for free. His stories are true even if they are not; but, as I said, I am not that good. I need a little $$$ to take me over the top. Keeping in shape and following the rules I posted previously are useful, however.

The modus operandi I've discovered works basically as follows. You have 2 or 3 favorite bars, they should be "working class". Then, as a clean, polite guy, you ask the girl if she wants a drink. Most girls tell me no, and indeed most nights I strike out and go home, but eventually someone who is in the right category says yes. On occassion, the girl may ask you. Eventually, get a phone number. Lately, I NEVER talk about prices until I call her and arrange a rendezvous. Typical offer is $50 - 80, I don't negotiate. These are good prices compared to hardened outcall pros. And I don't want it free either, even if that would be on offer, as it complicates the affair.

If it seems right, we meet at a hotel, and somtimes even at her apartment. The affair dries up usually in one of 3 ways: Either I get bored after a few months (the usual way), or her cell phone stops working (I take this as a bad sign), or she tells me to stop. A couple times it happened that a girl said she had a "serious" boyfriend and couldn't see me anymore. Fine, I am not trying to compete with guys half my age !

It's the "Last Tango in Paris" experiences I seek. No names, no identity. Just brief and meaningless affairs. But it requires the patience and the deliberation of a spy.

I have always gone to providers who offer incall, however I found one who only does outcall. Is it a bad idea to bring her to my apartment (I'm single and live alone) or should I rent a motel room? Any advice will be appreciated.

Thank you.

Anything Cool,

This comes under the same catagory as not paying with a credit card. Don't leave a trail, or as little of one as you can.

You don't want to end up in a [i]little black book[/i] that might get confiscated in a bust.

Robux

Thank you Robux for the quick reply to my previous question. I have another question and I hope someone has the answer.

There is a massage place advertised in the local paper that I think may offer extras. Rather than go there and possibly be disappointed I thought I would call them to try and get some information.

Do I just ask them outright if they offer extras? What is the best way of getting this information over the phone?

Thanks for the help.

G'day Mates,

Here's a quick take on some rules. Sit up and pay attention: If you see an adver tisment for an AMP (sports section or phone book) it's a good sign that they do extras. Go for a visit - worst thing, all ya gets is a good massage. Pat the mum on her arse when she leads ya to the shower. Put'er at ease, mate.

Never take a lovy home with ya, find a safe motel -that way she can't steal and don't 'ave your address. Ya can't be too careful. And when stopping to pick up a nipper whose streetwalkin- never discuss anything 'til she gets inside yur car! Too right! Can't tell ya how`many blokes make this mistake. The only thing ya ask out the winda is if she needs a ride. If she's workin LE, chances are she won't get in your car. And if she's a seasoned pro she'll know what ya mean by a ride. FInally, for those punters walkin on foot, you can walk over and talk to the`nipper, if got a smoke on ya, ask her for a light. She'll ask ya for a date right quick.

Salty

I have a set of rules I posted on the Charlotte, NC board back in June of 2002 that if adherred to will usually keep you out of trouble. I think every experienced monger have their own set of rules but for the newbie this is a start.

NC HUNTER'S RULES OF THE HUNT

1. Have a spare set of car keys (just in case some wild SW tries to take your keys to immobolize or blackmail you for whatever reason).

2. Make sure you have Drivers License and vehicle registration, insurance papers in car

3. Lights (including tag lights) and all safety gear (tires, etc.) operational and in good condition. (No need to give LE a reason to stop you)

4. Never go where SW suggests. Pick your own spot prior to picking up your SW. (places to park, hotels, motels, etc.)

5. Never talk money to SW while she is outside your car. Let her get in, ride around and let her feel you up and if you really want to be sure, have her give you a sample (a little head does the trick for me) before cash is offered.

6. LoveLOS suggests not to ride a male in your car. I go a step further and say no more than one SW at a time in your car- even two in the front seat could mean trouble.

7. Paying in advance (per LoveLOS, and I concur) should be avoided. However, when in Atlanta, the SW's all asked for their money the moment they sat in the car. They would not move unless it was in their hand. (Is the the norm for all of Atlanta you Atlanta mongers?). Go with the local custom on this one.

8. Of course no drugs, drug paraphanelia or weapons (on them) allowed in the car.

9. Prior to picking up the SW, ensure all your valuables are locked away- including your wallet. Some of these girls are talented pickpockets.

10. After picking up girl, do whatever manuevers (legal of course) you need to do to ensure you are not being followed.

11. Read the posts for the area and know what to spend and have that amount and that amount only available. Understand the dangers and the particulars of that area. Do a bit of research here on WSG.

12. If LE stops you tell the girl to never admit to illegal behavior regardless of what the cops promise. And you do the same. Get her real name and give yours. Get your story straight before the cops separate you.

13. SW's are liars and are not your girlfriends no matter how nice they may appear.

14. Realize you are a target for crackheads, robbers, murderers, etc. and protect yourself accordingly.

15. If a SW won't get out of your car and is causing trouble, you will have to use your judgement. You have three options:

a. physically kick her ass out (then you have to watch your back even more whenever you are cruisin for you now have an enemy)

b. give her $5 to $20 to get rid of her (for "wasting her time")

c. drive up to the nearest LE and tell them you want this woman out of your car (you risk having her attempt to get you both arrested and you also have an enemy)

16. Always, always, keep your head on a swivel and be very, very aware of your surroundings at all times. use your peripheral vision and keep the SW's movements in sight at all times.

These are all things I learned through over 20 years of mongering. I know it seems like a lot but it all is second nature to us veteran mongers. Each monger has his own rules and these are just some of mine. In time, you will develop your own.

Mongering can and is an enjoyable but dangerous hobby but it can be made a bit safer if you adopt some safety rules. I hope mine are a guideline for you newbies. Happy hunting and be safe out there.

NC Hunter

I posted a piece on "the look". The look is how a provider looks at you to let you know that she is able and willing, if the price is right. This is a copy of my message from 04/10/2004.

The "LOOK", IMHO, can not be classified as just one gesture but many. It can be as simply the lady locking eyes with yours and she may subtley add a smile, lick her lips or a very quick wave. If she is close enough she may even say "Hi". The ones I avoid are those that shout out at you, wave, jump into the middle of the street drawing unwanted attention to both of you.

The "LOOK" once included the way the lady was dressed but this no longer holds true for it has become a fashion trend for young ladies to dress slutty, but if she has on a bikini or lingerie she is a hooker.

The "LOOK" still includes a woman walking provocatively and I once got the "LOOK" from a provider as she drank a coke from a long stem bottle- she stuck half the bottle down her throat while staring at me. Yeah! I stopped for her! You may see a lady sucking on a piece of candy as if she is sucking a johnson.

IMHO, there is no science to the look. It has more to do with intuition than anything else for a woman can do all the above and not be a hooker.
As long as I have been doing this I still sometimes get crossed signals from what I thought was the "LOOK" but more times than not, I am right. I hope this explanation was not confusing and I hope I answered some of your questions. Other members will add their wisdom and take the advice collectively.

Peace and safe mongering,

NC Hunter

Excellent info NC Hunter. It is valuable information for us newbies.

Thanks!