Rants and Raves plus Stupid Shit

So we had this review posted for Nuru Goddess Dominique earlier this afternoon.

Originally Posted by TableToy [View Original Post]

[url]http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/.ont-25/8303335[/url]

Called early set up appointment for noon. She said call when you get close,

I called at 11:50 no answer and message box was full. Tried about 15 times.

And gave up. I did read of this happening another a while back. A waste of gas and time.

I thought it was a bit odd and so did some others as Dom's service has been nothing short of spectacular. I'm not a guy that normally goes back for seconds, I like variety but I have seen Dom more times than I can count, which is not enough. I saw her today at 4:00 and asked her if she had missed an appointment at noon today, I did not tell her about the bad review. Dom told me that someone had called for a noon appointment but they didn't have or would not provide references. She no longer sees new clients that don't have references. She had no reason to defend herself as I had not mentioned the review at that time.

So I can only guess that the bad review is sour grapes for not being seen. I have seen it before and I'm sure I will see it again. The reason I believe Dom's side of the story is because of how well I know her and how much I trust her. She has become a friend that I look forward to seeing for reasons other than the Nuru activities. The other reason I believe Dom is the review itself. 15 times dude? Really? No one tries 15 times before they give up. 5 maybe, not 15.

Sorry, got to raise the BS flag on this one.

Gentlemen, it is VITAL that the integrity of these reviews be maintained. Using the reviews as retaliation when a provider won't see you or won't do what you want them to do ruins that integrity. The BS from a lot of the providers is bad enough, let's take the high road on our end.

[QUOTE=TableToy; 1811590]Based on the fact that several providers read our comments, in particular in the Massage Parlor Reports.

Perhaps at least in that area we should refrain from any specifics of a good nature, and just.

Give a rating of C, B, B+, A, A+. I saw a report where 1 girl "Judy" was given outstanding.

Reviews and a lot of description. Well she changed her name and service stopped.

On the other hand far more beneficial would be negative reviews so we can save our money and.

Maybe even encourage better service. As always YMMV but at least we'd know the.

Rip offs and wouldn't jeopardize the good spots. Just an idea.[/QUOTE]On the surface this sounds like a great idea, it would address the concern that you bring up. That being said, if all you give is a letter grade with no detail, all that tells us is that [b]you[/b] Had a certain level of good time with a provider. You may have an experience that you consider an A+ because the provider happened to offer exactly what you were looking for. Somebody else may have the exact same experience with this provider and only consider it a D- because she didn't offer what he was looking for. Does this D- mean this is a bad provider? Of course not. It just means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We're not here just to avoid getting ripped off, another big part of this is to find a good provider that offers what we're looking for. Read back through the threads. What is the most commonly asked follow up question to reports? What is on the menu (or some variation). Without session detail this forum turns into just a complaint board where people come to complain about bad sessions, because basically all you've got to say is a detailed complaint about a bad session, or a vague letter grade for a good one that tells nothing about that session.

Good to see we are finally making coming sense out of something that is very easy to figure out. We should never be going against fellow board members just respect their opinion and use what suits us. I used to want to post commentary and always did but that put me on the defensive and alienated me with a lot of board members. I sit back and let people express themselves because after all its their opinion and they are entitled to it. I may not always agree but I know people have the same thoughts likes and dislikes etc also. My methods are unique because they work for me and I don't expect people to follow what I do. I hit fellow board members via PM so that they have a one one chance to answer my critiques if they choose to.

[QUOTE=Msanders; 1811781]So we had this review posted for Nuru Goddess Dominique earlier this afternoon.

Originally Posted by TableToy [View Original Post]

[url]http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/.ont-25/8303335[/url]

Called early set up appointment for noon. She said call when you get close,

I called at 11:50 no answer and message box was full. Tried about 15 times.

And gave up. I did read of this happening another a while back. A waste of gas and time.

I thought it was a bit odd and so did some others as Dom's service has been nothing short of spectacular. I'm not a guy that normally goes back for seconds, I like variety but I have seen Dom more times than I can count, which is not enough. I saw her today at 4:00 and asked her if she had missed an appointment at noon today, I did not tell her about the bad review. Dom told me that someone had called for a noon appointment but they didn't have or would not provide references. She no longer sees new clients that don't have references. She had no reason to defend herself as I had not mentioned the review at that time.

So I can only guess that the bad review is sour grapes for not being seen. I have seen it before and I'm sure I will see it again. The reason I believe Dom's side of the story is because of how well I know her and how much I trust her. She has become a friend that I look forward to seeing for reasons other than the Nuru activities. The other reason I believe Dom is the review itself. 15 times dude? Really? No one tries 15 times before they give up. 5 maybe, not 15.

Sorry, got to raise the BS flag on this one.

Gentlemen, it is VITAL that the integrity of these reviews be maintained. Using the reviews as retaliation when a provider won't see you or won't do what you want them to do ruins that integrity. The BS from a lot of the providers is bad enough, let's take the high road on our end.[/QUOTE]I agree with you 100000% reviews should NEVER be used for retribution. If it didn't work out or you had no chemistry there are decent ways to say that. Writing a Bullshit review is not one of them!

[QUOTE=Rdavis1972;1812387]On the surface this sounds like a great idea, it would address the concern that you bring up. That being said, if all you give is a letter grade with no detail, all that tells us is that [b]you[/b] Had a certain level of good time with a provider. You may have an experience that you consider an A+ because the provider happened to offer exactly what you were looking for. Somebody else may have the exact same experience with this provider and only consider it a D- because she didn't offer what he was looking for. Does this D- mean this is a bad provider? Of course not. It just means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We're not here just to avoid getting ripped off, another big part of this is to find a good provider that offers what we're looking for. Read back through the threads. What is the most commonly asked follow up question to reports? What is on the menu (or some variation). Without session detail this forum turns into just a complaint board where people come to complain about bad sessions, because basically all you've got to say is a detailed complaint about a bad session, or a vague letter grade for a good one that tells nothing about that session.[/QUOTE]Again, I agree completely. Who is to say that one man's 'D' isn't another man's 'A+++'? Writing descriptive reviews and detailed accounts of the session gives guys the BEST information to make better decisions! Some fucktards will never understand no matter how many times or ways you try to lay it out for them. Their motives and lack of good 'mongering' sense shows through every time.

Just because one or two girls drop off the radar because they don't like being reviewed is no reason (not a good one, IMHO) to stop providing fellow hobbyists with reliable info. It could save any one of us a great deal of time and aggro simply by stating she is not a GFE or does NOT do BBBJ. For every one that drops out 10 more take her place. Then it is the review system or community that helps keep the ball rolling.

Sorry if some of my posts seem out of context but Tabletoy is on my admin-blocked list so I don't see those posts. Only if somebody quotes will I see that info. Which is probably best for all involved, 'cause y'all know how I am! And I'm not going to change anytime soon! In the lyrics of Sammy Davis jr " I gotta be ME, I just gotta be ME!"

Peace.

PK

Rdavis1972 wrote. On the surface this sounds like a great idea, it would address the concern that you bring up. That being said, if all you give is a letter grade with no detail, all that tells us is that you Had a certain level of good time with a provider. You may have an experience that you consider an A+ because the provider happened to offer exactly what you were looking for. Somebody else may have the exact same experience with this provider and only consider it a D- because she didn't offer what he was looking for. Does this D- mean this is a bad provider? Of course not. It just means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We're not here just to avoid getting ripped off, another big part of this is to find a good provider that offers what we're looking for. Read back through the threads. What is the most commonly asked follow up question to reports? What is on the menu (or some variation). Without session detail this forum turns into just a complaint board where people come to complain about bad sessions, because basically all you've got to say is a detailed complaint about a bad session, or a vague letter grade for a good one that tells nothing about that session.

Point well taken. I guess that ratings wouldn't provide the info needed. It did sound good on the surface though.

[QUOTE=GTrac;1812486]Good to see we are finally making coming sense out of something that is very easy to figure out. We should never be going against fellow board members just respect their opinion and use what suits us. I used to want to post commentary and always did but that put me on the defensive and alienated me with a lot of board members. I sit back and let people express themselves because after all its their opinion and they are entitled to it. I may not always agree but I know people have the same thoughts likes and dislikes etc also. My methods are unique because they work for me and I don't expect people to follow what I do. I hit fellow board members via PM so that they have a one one chance to answer my critiques if they choose to.[/QUOTE]I understand the desire to let sleeping dogs lie. BUT, I think that there are times and situations that call for 'discussion'. We are not talking about whether or not one member likes CBJ and another likes BBBJ. We often are discussing 'good ettiquette' or proper tcb skills. Some guys come on the board, shit in the cereal bowl and are never heard from again. Those of us who have been around the block a few times (I know you have been here a long time under a similar handle) don't always take well to 'bad information' or purposeful misleading of newbies. Or Vindictive bullshit posts with an agenda.

I get that you seem to dislike or disagree with the drama associated with these forums. Thats fine. And I don't want to be offensive to other members. But to each his own bro. Just like YMMV with providers, so too does the 'online experience'. If you don't like the banter and the playful ribbing, don't engage. For what its worth, it's not like you are here for the 'Albany market info' it appears you primarily monger in the downstate area-so if you don't like the scene, why participate?

Peace.

PK

[QUOTE=Msanders; 1811781]So we had this review posted for Nuru Goddess Dominique earlier this afternoon.

Originally Posted by TableToy [View Original Post]

[url]http://albany.backpage.com/BodyRubs/.ont-25/8303335[/url]

Called early set up appointment for noon. She said call when you get close,

I called at 11:50 no answer and message box was full. Tried about 15 times.

And gave up. I did read of this happening another a while back. A waste of gas and time.

I thought it was a bit odd and so did some others as Dom's service has been nothing short of spectacular. I'm not a guy that normally goes back for seconds, I like variety but I have seen Dom more times than I can count, which is not enough. I saw her today at 4:00 and asked her if she had missed an appointment at noon today, I did not tell her about the bad review. Dom told me that someone had called for a noon appointment but they didn't have or would not provide references. She no longer sees new clients that don't have references. She had no reason to defend herself as I had not mentioned the review at that time.

So I can only guess that the bad review is sour grapes for not being seen. I have seen it before and I'm sure I will see it again. The reason I believe Dom's side of the story is because of how well I know her and how much I trust her. She has become a friend that I look forward to seeing for reasons other than the Nuru activities. The other reason I believe Dom is the review itself. 15 times dude? Really? No one tries 15 times before they give up. 5 maybe, not 15.

Sorry, got to raise the BS flag on this one.

Gentlemen, it is VITAL that the integrity of these reviews be maintained. Using the reviews as retaliation when a provider won't see you or won't do what you want them to do ruins that integrity. The BS from a lot of the providers is bad enough, let's take the high road on our end.[/QUOTE]I did call 15 times since I really wanted the NURU and she had great reviews. She agreed to the appointment and never asked once for any reference at all just a first name. It's very disappointing, fortunately I was able to get into the CP massage and had a wonderful time though not NURU. I may try Dom. Again 1 more time and explain what she said happened. If what she said is true, then why didn't she answer the phone at noon and ask for references?

[QUOTE=Hobbyist10; 1812648]Rdavis1972 wrote. On the surface this sounds like a great idea, it would address the concern that you bring up. That being said, if all you give is a letter grade with no detail, all that tells us is that you Had a certain level of good time with a provider. You may have an experience that you consider an A+ because the provider happened to offer exactly what you were looking for. Somebody else may have the exact same experience with this provider and only consider it a D- because she didn't offer what he was looking for. Does this D- mean this is a bad provider? Of course not. It just means that we all have different likes and dislikes. We're not here just to avoid getting ripped off, another big part of this is to find a good provider that offers what we're looking for. Read back through the threads. What is the most commonly asked follow up question to reports? What is on the menu (or some variation). Without session detail this forum turns into just a complaint board where people come to complain about bad sessions, because basically all you've got to say is a detailed complaint about a bad session, or a vague letter grade for a good one that tells nothing about that session.

Point well taken. I guess that ratings wouldn't provide the info needed. It did sound good on the surface though.[/QUOTE]I think it's easy enough for members to understand a simple system. FS or BJ gets between A- to A+, Nude or topless B- to B+, great HJ B- to B+, if no HJ just say it's a legit place, if it's a lackluster HJ then give it a C what I'm saying is that a lot of these places try and stay off the radar, and when a lot of detailed reviews show up they tend to pull back on service or change girls. A sample review might be something like, went to Schenectady Spa was pleasantly surprised by clean place, lockable doors, good looking masseuse that enjoyed her work. Massage was very thorough and overall service was a B+.

A few of you self absorbed writers say my comments on Dominique were only for retaliation. That's total B. S. I merely reported a fact, I'd really like to get a NURU from this provider. She asked for no references as I said and then after I drove to the designated spot some 30 minutes away she didn't answer the phone. I did not make any of this up because of a bad experience with Dom. Just couldn't complete the appointment because of her end. If you know of any better way to get an actual meet up please elaborate.

[QUOTE=TableToy;1813187]I think it's easy enough for members to understand a simple system. FS or BJ gets between A- to A+, Nude or topless B- to B+, great HJ B- to B+, if no HJ just say it's a legit place, if it's a lackluster HJ then give it a C what I'm saying is that a lot of these places try and stay off the radar, and when a lot of detailed reviews show up they tend to pull back on service or change girls. A sample review might be something like, went to Schenectady Spa was pleasantly surprised by clean place, lockable doors, good looking masseuse that enjoyed her work. Massage was very thorough and overall service was a B+.[/QUOTE]Using a rating system that implies quality will be extraordinarily confusing if you mean it simply as a code.

[QUOTE=TableToy;1813187]I think it's easy enough for members to understand a simple system. FS or BJ gets between A- to A+, Nude or topless B- to B+, great HJ B- to B+, if no HJ just say it's a legit place, if it's a lackluster HJ then give it a C what I'm saying is that a lot of these places try and stay off the radar, and when a lot of detailed reviews show up they tend to pull back on service or change girls. A sample review might be something like, went to Schenectady Spa was pleasantly surprised by clean place, lockable doors, good looking masseuse that enjoyed her work. Massage was very thorough and overall service was a B+.[/QUOTE]The problem with a system like this is that in order for it to mean anything to anybody, they need to know how to decode the rating. If everybody knows the code, what's the point? It's just another unnecessary layer of confusion.

[QUOTE=TableToy;1813187]I think it's easy enough for members to understand a simple system. FS or BJ gets between A- to A+, Nude or topless B- to B+, great HJ B- to B+, if no HJ just say it's a legit place, if it's a lackluster HJ then give it a C what I'm saying is that a lot of these places try and stay off the radar, and when a lot of detailed reviews show up they tend to pull back on service or change girls. A sample review might be something like, went to Schenectady Spa was pleasantly surprised by clean place, lockable doors, good looking masseuse that enjoyed her work. Massage was very thorough and overall service was a B+.[/QUOTE]Why? What purpose would this serve? All of your ratings are at best subjective. Lets just stick to giving a girl a review with an explanation of why you are saying the things you are about her. I for one will not participate in an unnecessary layer of ratings. It's kinda like the "beauty is in the eye of the beholder" deal. I have had some pretty good pussy from girls who never got undressed. They just pulled up their skirt and I plowed away.

This suggestion kinda reminds me of the bureaucracy that epitomizes all of our state programs and employees. Notice I refrained from using the term "state worker" as this is a fictitious oxy-moron.

Just write your review and justify it with details.

L10

[QUOTE=TableToy;1813403]A few of you self absorbed writers say my comments on Dominique were only for retaliation. That's total B. S. I merely reported a fact, I'd really like to get a NURU from this provider. She asked for no references as I said and then after I drove to the designated spot some 30 minutes away she didn't answer the phone. I did not make any of this up because of a bad experience with Dom. Just couldn't complete the appointment because of her end. If you know of any better way to get an actual meet up please elaborate.[/QUOTE]Self absorbed? Go f%k yourself. I heard your side of the story and I heard Dom's side. I believe her side. The way I presented it to her she had no reason to defend herself whatsoever. No one else here has had the "problem" you had so your "problem" lacks credibility. The fact that you have been blocked by several members of this board, add me to that list, also costs you credibility.

Have a nice life.

[QUOTE=Rdavis1972;1813848]The problem with a system like this is that in order for it to mean anything to anybody, they need to know how to decode the rating. If everybody knows the code, what's the point? It's just another unnecessary layer of confusion.[/QUOTE]I only suggest some system and only relating to massage places, that protects the girls from specifics that could cause management to remove them, thus in the long run hurting ourselves. This apparently happened at the spa on Central Ave, where Judy was giving "great" service but after a detailed review it stopped. I refer anyone interested to the type of reviews at Spahunters as an example [url]http://www.spahunters.com/spa/8807/Good-Life-Spa?rtn=[/url]%2Fspas%2FNew-York%2Fother%2F%3Fstatus%3D%26sort%3DREVIEWED%26page%3D1

To add my depreciated sixpence on the issues recently discussed:

A letter-grade-rating system is good in theory, but will be awful in practice. I get the idea. If we advertise a provider is doing extras in a place where maybe she doesn't want that known, right, we could jeopardize a good thing. I have a perfect solution for that: DON'T REVIEW HER THEN. Yes, mongers will lose out, but at least the original poster will have kept his good thing going. Nothing wrong with being selfish every now-and-then. If the provider feels she wants more clients because she does extra activities, then she has to get the word out. No way around it. I have debated this too, and so if I feel my review will jeopardize a good thing, I just don't give every darn DDarkness-mandated detail.

As for fellow mongers getting on Table Toy's case, I don't get it. He didn't actually give the provider a bad review. He simply said she was a no-show / no-answer. Any monger who has been in the hobby long enough has experienced the extreme frustration when this happens. It sucks. It's a total loss. Time, gas, opportunity cost, and still no pussy. Back to square one or give up for the night. I don't review every provider who does a no-show, because I get it, shit happens. There are infinite reasons why a provider will do this: kid issues, SO issues, handler issues, over-booking, etc. Escorts aren't known to be paragons of accountability. To castigate Table Toy because he called out the provider for bad TCB skills isn't fair to the forum. That's info we need. And if asked directly, of course a provider will justify any of her actions. After all, we're not paying cash to fuck Mother Theresa.