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[QUOTE=NathanCross;5987005]She's not Vietnamese? She told me she was Thai or was it Cambodian, I forgot. She does haggle you for more money "give me more money you too rough on my pussy".

She said there's a young half Chinese half Latina girl that works there Monday to Wednesday. Have anyone seen this chick? What's her menu?[/QUOTE]She may be Cambodian, but I remember her saying she was Vietnamese. Doesn't really matter because both nationalities have a similar beg / nag / act mad / pout negotiation style. Basically, you give her another 10 bucks from the negotiated price to get out of the place.

Never saw any of the other girls there. It was always empty with someone supposedly available to massage me after the wax / shave.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;5986692]This is true in many countries. In fact, even here in OC if you go to some public parks you may need to BYO-TP. I have been to China, Japan, Taiwan myself, and lived with Asian women. And many Chinese women. Here in the US. Will not sit on the toilet. I first noticed this when my petite Chinese companion seemed to sound like a race horse taking a piss. It turns out they position that sweet booty over the toilet. Perhaps avoiding contact with pathogens. If you are up at high altitude dropping your load like a B52 over Haiphong harbor, its going to be loud. So if we are going to AMP's and want to have the whole Asian experience, just don't sit down on the toilet. When in Rome, do as the Romans do. Just make sure you dam-busting run on Schweinfurt stays in the bowl and does not skip or miss.

Hopefully this topic needs no further discussion. Lets respect the girls, the establishments, and our fellow mongers.[/QUOTE]Thats why I love asian women, cleanest creatures ever.

[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;5987205]Thats why I love asian women, cleanest creatures ever.[/QUOTE]Every Korean I have dated takes a shower in the morning and one at night before bed. If the current GF is in the house, the washer and dryer are running. She has the linens and towels in the washer 5 minutes after we get out of bed every day, unless we are traveling somewhere for the weekend or a vacation, and put in the dryer as she leaves for work. Anything used in the kitchen is cleaned either immediately after use or after eating. Hardwood floors are dusted nearly daily as soon as he gets home. Bathroom and Kitchen get weekly power cleanings. They are fucking cleaning machines!

[QUOTE=LC310;5987226]Every Korean I have dated takes a shower in the morning and one at night before bed. If the current GF is in the house, the washer and dryer are running. She has the linens and towels in the washer 5 minutes after we get out of bed every day, unless we are traveling somewhere for the weekend or a vacation, and put in the dryer as she leaves for work. Anything used in the kitchen is cleaned either immediately after use or after eating. Hardwood floors are dusted nearly daily as soon as he gets home. Bathroom and Kitchen get weekly power cleanings. They are fucking cleaning machines![/QUOTE]Crap! Can somebody explained what happened to my Asian lady. LOL.

It's all the opposite of what you all are saying. LOL.

Since I was in Bolsa neighborhood deciding what good to eat on a hot summer day. I stumbled into Angel spa and got Anna because Lisa was busy. Lesson learned, only paid for 30/$30 because that's all you'll get even if you paid $40 hr. Got a 5 minutes back massage and flip. Negotiations started with HJ motion for $60 & up. I was tired and opted for HJ and I got a surprise BBBJ. Lucky me and it wasn't a 30 seconds with free roaming. End up 1. 2 total OTD.

[QUOTE=NailBoiz1;5987239]Crap! Can somebody explained what happened to my Asian lady. LOL.

It's all the opposite of what you all are saying. LOL.[/QUOTE]LOL, I got a defective one too.

[QUOTE=LC310;5987226]Every Korean I have dated takes a shower in the morning and one at night before bed. If the current GF is in the house, the washer and dryer are running. She has the linens and towels in the washer 5 minutes after we get out of bed every day, unless we are traveling somewhere for the weekend or a vacation, and put in the dryer as she leaves for work. Anything used in the kitchen is cleaned either immediately after use or after eating. Hardwood floors are dusted nearly daily as soon as he gets home. Bathroom and Kitchen get weekly power cleanings. They are fucking cleaning machines![/QUOTE]Don't ever stop dating. Moment they don't think they have to try, they won't, hahahaha.

[QUOTE=SCJohn;5987272]LOL, I got a defective one too.[/QUOTE]Every Japanese woman I have been with has been impeccably clean. I was with one Korean. Who was good by US standards but so-so by Japanese standards. Chinese are more of a mixed bag. Some of them are just as clean as Japanese. In fact, even neurotic about germs, while others are lacking and their homes seem to smell a bit. You can see all this play out in Asian markets too. Every Japonese and Korean market is clean, smells clean, and the fish section in particular is fresh. Chinese and Vietnamese markets are often a little less tidy, sometimes smelly. Especially near the fish area. You can also see this dynamic in J, K, and Ch restaurants. One Chinese lady told me that they consider Americans to be dirty. I was a bit insulted but I reminded her of the source of various annual pathogens.

But cutting to the chase, 95% of Asian fur muffin is sweet and delicate. Which is a combination of cleanliness and genetics. I dated an Asian gynecologist one time, and discussed this. And she admitted that the smell of some non-Asian hoo-hahs was enough to make her gag. I always felt that once you taste Asian "cuisine" it will always be your favorite. Even if they now want $60.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;5984971]As I was saying I want to make a triumphant return but try a different girl. Did you see any other hotties?

Linda did up-sell me more than you, but for 10 she helped me pull her pants and panties down to mid-thigh, and I had a handful of fur.

- And her ass was such a revelation that I realized how nice an ass can be.

- The jack itself is not something so wonderful that I would write home to mother about, but I've had worse.

- It seemed there was a sheet on the table, but they had a roll of stuff. She kept the roll under the table. So when I was done, she tossed that that top layer into the thrash.

- She did not short me time in fact, I was starting to think she was giving me another 10 min free over and above. It seemed to go on pretty long. Maybe that hefty paycheck of 60 inspired her too. All these girls have had a conference call and decided that they want make 60 the new 40, but I suspect some guys are not buying this attempt to stick a vacuum cleaner nozzle into their pocket and suck more money out. So this place in particular is not on Happy Ending Street in Westminster, so maybe I overpaid. Or maybe for 60 I should have bargained a little harder for further services.

- All of these shops (BW, SW, TC) might need to invest in yellow police accident tape, and warning signs ("danger: biohazard") so they can close down the shops for an hour after a spicy curry attack while the girls sanitize and disinfect the little rooms and bathroom, burn the sheets, change clothes, and ventilate the MP with fresh air to make it safe to enter again. In the old days they talked about the mad hatter and now it seems we got the mad shitter on the loose.

By the way, have you been back to 888 spa? Any updates? I did not want to return after my experience with that big woman who shorted me, but I am hoping to get a name of a good provider there.[/QUOTE]I really didn't get the vibe she was unhappy with my tip. She asked how much I would give, and I said 50. She didn't ask more, nor did I offer more. No bad feelings, she treated me well, I was clean and respectful. Just figured she was about average service. My style is not to low ball, or to throw a ton of cash on them either. Offer a fair tip, and if service is good I give a little more than promised, see where it goes next time, then a little more as service improves towards GFE. If service is average, then I tipped appropriately. If service sucks, I just won't repeat. This style has worked for me over the years. I'll try repeating with Linda on your recommendation.

As for 888, it's been a year since I was there. Was a regular with Cici before covid. Went once during covid, and that was about the time I discovered BW and got Anna tuned into GFE mode. Someone mentioned a few weeks or a month ago that 888 got raided, but that was back when the troll was spreading BS about popo hitting all the shops. If you do go, and if Cici is still there, please do tell me. She's cute and gives a good massage too.

It finally happened, holistic has finally closed. Probably my favorite Latina spot in oc. Anyone know of any other good Latina FS spots near the Anaheim / Fullerton / Orange area?

[QUOTE=LC310;5986948]I have seen Susan at Adorable Skin 2 or 3 times for a wax / shave job on my ass crack and junk with a topless jackhammer HJ to try to get you off as soon as possible to finish. She's all about the money, but does a good job with the manscaping. She is Vietnamese and a hustler to get you to see one of her other girls for a massage, upgrade to massage, etc, etc, etc. We agree on 120 for a wax and HJ, but when you are dressed and ready to leave she begs for more money like a street hooker. She's in her 40's or early 50's with fake tits and fit for her age. She is goofy and hard to understand with all the hustle talk, fake laughing, hollow compliments, and general nonsense she goes on about. Read that more is on offer, but I'm really only there for the manscaping. Much better places to go for sex..[/QUOTE]Having been here, and to Palms Orange (they offered a free wax), and to OC waxing in Huntington beach (not an AMP) I hiiiiiighly suggest going to the professional for your wax and then a spa separately. The quality is a world of difference.

That said, this review is fully accurate. Old lady waxed, younger lady attempted massage / ending at the same time. Both asked for a bigger tip than the fair one offered.

[QUOTE=KammyMike;5987266]Since I was in Bolsa neighborhood deciding what good to eat on a hot summer day. I stumbled into Angel spa and got Anna because Lisa was busy. Lesson learned, only paid for 30/$30 because that's all you'll get even if you paid $40 hr. Got a 5 minutes back massage and flip. Negotiations started with HJ motion for $60 & up. I was tired and opted for HJ and I got a surprise BBBJ. Lucky me and it wasn't a 30 seconds with free roaming. End up 1. 2 total OTD.[/QUOTE]This has happened to me at many places. No matter if you pay for 30 minutes or 60 minutes you get 20 minutes of massage and 10 minutes of power pole polishing. I guess you can spend the last 30 minutes meditating alone in the room and wondering why you paid for an hour while the girl is already in the break room checking her WeChat. I never come back to such places.

[QUOTE=SCJohn;5987272]LOL, I got a defective one too.[/QUOTE]I was dating a Vt girl years ago, and she would always balk at FS. And she finally blurted it out that she needed to see me spend more money on her. I had to pay for a hotel room to use for 2 hours. When we could have just gone to my place. She needed to see that I was spending money to demonstrate I valued her. More generally in Asian culture, you demonstrate the seriousness of your commitment by giving money. This also applies to parents and children, birthdays, college graduations, friend's weddings, etc. But most of all it applies to women providing intimate relations. In China, guys pay mistresses or "2nd wives" enough to buy houses. It makes no sense to me to keep pay $$ for the same taudry affair, but that's the way it works.

I'm Asian and this is not true. You getting scammed bro lmao.

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;5988378]I was dating a Vt girl years ago, and she would always balk at FS. And she finally blurted it out that she needed to see me spend more money on her. I had to pay for a hotel room to use for 2 hours. When we could have just gone to my place. She needed to see that I was spending money to demonstrate I valued her. More generally in Asian culture, you demonstrate the seriousness of your commitment by giving money. This also applies to parents and children, birthdays, college graduations, friend's weddings, etc. But most of all it applies to women providing intimate relations. In China, guys pay mistresses or "2nd wives" enough to buy houses. It makes no sense to me to keep pay $$ for the same taudry affair, but that's the way it works.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=DarkRoomDaddy;5988378]In China, guys pay mistresses or "2nd wives" enough to buy houses.
[/QUOTE]This part is true, in fact, it is expected. Not sure about the rest of the OP. Related, love in the Chinese culture is different than love in America. There is much more emphasis on financial security for the woman.