This was shared in our forum. Lots of surveillance details.
[QUOTE=MagicHands2;4166890]Spotted this on a Detroit thread:
[URL]https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/74/98/64c708b942ac9a24ed0e40f57db0/hua-pc.pdf[/URL]
Stay safe out there, MH2.[/QUOTE]
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This was shared in our forum. Lots of surveillance details.
[QUOTE=MagicHands2;4166890]Spotted this on a Detroit thread:
[URL]https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/74/98/64c708b942ac9a24ed0e40f57db0/hua-pc.pdf[/URL]
Stay safe out there, MH2.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wolverines;4167458]This was shared in our forum. Lots of surveillance details.[/QUOTE]Thanks for adding more insight into what looks like the law enforcement being sex traffickers for some months.
[QUOTE=Wolverines;4167458]This was shared in our forum. Lots of surveillance details.[/QUOTE]I'm done with AMP. Its getting to close to home. And why do they keep records?
I haven't been to one in a while anyways.
[QUOTE=Wolverines;4167458]This was shared in our forum. Lots of surveillance details.[/QUOTE]Any idea how they got the cameras inside since it mentions the girls were living there? Guessing they broke in and did it while they were sleeping.
Well, I don't know why I thought I read good news about this place. Nice "fluffy" young lady, talked too much and I'm about 87% sure she tried to over play her accent. She ended with a handshake but I thought this place had more options. #lame.
Allegedly the police notified the place that there was a telephoned bomb threat, had everyone evacuate the building, bomb squad checked out the building, installed the cameras, and then gave all clear to allow masseuses and patrons back into the joint.
In reading about the operation, it begs the question, if the priority focus was "human trafficking" why did the police wait so long to raid the place and free the "victims". Did any of the masseuses get transferred out of that establishment during this time period? Were they able to track these "victims" down and free them? Or were some "victims" lost because they were transferred out prior to the police freeing the "sex slave victims" Are those lost "victim (s)" just collateral casualty for the greater good?
I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of questions asked, and it should be great theatre, so long as you are not one of the unfortunates that got caught in the dragnet.
If there was human trafficking, the traffickers should get the maximum incarceration allowed.
[QUOTE=WhosThirsty;4167996]Any idea how they got the cameras inside since it mentions the girls were living there? Guessing they broke in and did it while they were sleeping.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Longjblues;4168519]Allegedly the police notified the place that there was a telephoned bomb threat, had everyone evacuate the building, bomb squad checked out the building, installed the cameras, and then gave all clear to allow masseuses and patrons back into the joint.
In reading about the operation, it begs the question, if the priority focus was "human trafficking" why did the police wait so long to raid the place and free the "victims". Did any of the masseuses get transferred out of that establishment during this time period? Were they able to track these "victims" down and free them? Or were some "victims" lost because they were transferred out prior to the police freeing the "sex slave victims" Are those lost "victim (s)" just collateral casualty for the greater good?
I have a feeling that there are going to be a lot of questions asked, and it should be great theatre, so long as you are not one of the unfortunates that got caught in the dragnet.
If there was human trafficking, the traffickers should get the maximum incarceration allowed.[/QUOTE]Wow, great info thanks. I think I would have been a little suspicious if I was the owner. Was that in the papers?
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4167122]While you should be on the lookout, just keep in mind that these are big, expensive, time-consuming operations whose purpose is really to produce publicity for the police department. As an actual law-enforcement tool, I'm skeptical of its general utility. Too logistically difficult. If it doesn't pay off, it could also be an expensive boondoggle. Most massage operations are very small businesses and it's just not worth the time of the police to go to this level of effort.
The worst part of this is its social uselessness. No government in the history of the world has ever eradicated prostitution. Its demand simply moves elsewhere. If the police and the misguided do-gooders pushing them to close the spas succeed, what will happen? The excess demand will go to backpage and the streets, where it's far less safe.[/QUOTE]It is not called the worlds oldest profession for nothing. No amount of surveillance, arrests, or punishment will ever eliminate it. There will always be a demand and there will always be a supply, the best thing to do would be to legalize and regulate it, but that is very unlikely in this country.
NPR interviewed the head investigator, he puts the most blame on the mongers! More so than the trafficking pimps. The workers are considered victims. The entire investigation seems to me to be Orwellian. A good lawyer is going to have the secret recordings evidence thrown out.
"There are coercion points that keep them in bondage and the person with the key is not the trafficker. It's the men who go into these parlors and avail themselves of this human misery," Snyder told NPR. "I think they are monsters."
[url]https://www.npr.org/2019/02/25/697782148/robert-kraft-is-formally-charged-with-solicitation-over-visits-to-florida-day-sp[/url]
[QUOTE=Wolverines;4167458]This was shared in our forum. Lots of surveillance details.[/QUOTE]I read this report and wow A, B, C, D, were all observed leaving the strip mall then were pulled over for some BOGAS traffic stop and then sung like fucking canaries really. PUSSIES keep your mouth shut! You DO NOT have to tell the police anything. You were pulled over for a traffic stop. Man that pisses me off KNOW YOUR RIGHTS. TD out. Ugggg.
Appears that Spa 36 is no longer in business.
[QUOTE=TampaMonger;4167122]While you should be on the lookout, just keep in mind that these are big, expensive, time-consuming operations whose purpose is really to produce publicity for the police department. As an actual law-enforcement tool, I'm skeptical of its general utility. Too logistically difficult. If it doesn't pay off, it could also be an expensive boondoggle.
Most massage operations are very small businesses and it's just not worth the time of the police to go to this level of effort.
The worst part of this is its social uselessness. No government in the history of the world has ever eradicated prostitution. Its demand simply moves elsewhere. If the police and the misguided do-gooders pushing them to close the spas succeed, what will happen? The excess demand will go to backpage and the streets, where it's far less safe.[/QUOTE]
I completely agree. After many years in this hobby, I worry more about getting struck by lightning. Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Skiper;4169551]NPR interviewed the head investigator, he puts the most blame on the mongers! More so than the trafficking pimps. The workers are considered victims. The entire investigation seems to me to be Orwellian. A good lawyer is going to have the secret recordings evidence thrown out.
"There are coercion points that keep them in bondage and the person with the key is not the trafficker. It's the men who go into these parlors and avail themselves of this human misery," Snyder told NPR. "I think they are monsters."
[url]https://www.npr.org/2019/02/25/697782148/robert-kraft-is-formally-charged-with-solicitation-over-visits-to-florida-day-sp[/url][/QUOTE]I visit a lot of AMPs. Most of the ladies that I speak with are just trying to make more money. Many of the ones I speak with previously worked at restaurants, Dr's offices, or retail.
According to a report on [URL]tmz.com[/URL] about the Jupiter, Florida massage parlor prostitution charge against billionaire Kraft and others, "It does not appear any of the suspects engaged in vaginal intercourse. Cops say the surveillance videos capture every single detail of the encounters -- including ejaculation and subsequent cleanup. " The unconstitutional violation of privacy by police is obvious, assuming no knowledge or consent by those who were secretly video recorded. There is no law against a masseuse engaging in such acts with customers unless it is for money. These prosecutions underscore the importance of [U]not[/U] negotiating price for anything sexual with a masseuse, not even a hand job. So if a masseuse asks how much you'll pay for a hand job, oral sex, or intercourse, don't give her an answer! These prosecutions also show why you should not identify yourself, as you do if you pay with a credit card. It may be dangerous to even park a car with a license plate that identifies you near the parlor.
Has anyone gone lately? If so how was it?
Good post. Yet, I don't believe it was a violation of privacy rights, as they, apparently, had enough evidence from surveillance and a Health Dept. Report that helped them get a warrant from a Judge to place the cameras and audio bugs.
[QUOTE=ParamAhmad;4173528]According to a report on [URL]tmz.com[/URL] about the Jupiter, Florida massage parlor prostitution charge against billionaire Kraft and others, "It does not appear any of the suspects engaged in vaginal intercourse. Cops say the surveillance videos capture every single detail of the encounters -- including ejaculation and subsequent cleanup. " The unconstitutional violation of privacy by police is obvious, assuming no knowledge or consent by those who were secretly video recorded. There is no law against a masseuse engaging in such acts with customers unless it is for money. These prosecutions underscore the importance of [U]not[/U] negotiating price for anything sexual with a masseuse, not even a hand job. So if a masseuse asks how much you'll pay for a hand job, oral sex, or intercourse, don't give her an answer! These prosecutions also show why you should not identify yourself, as you do if you pay with a credit card. It may be dangerous to even park a car with a license plate that identifies you near the parlor.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MaxxD0941;4181428]Has anyone gone lately? If so how was it?[/QUOTE]I'm sorry, I got the name wrong!!
Greeting fellow mongers,
Been reading for a while and decided to start posting.
Went to HR last week and was hoping for one of my regulars, new girl there, it was her first day, if your thirsty Ash for Soda! Had some work done but nice rack and ass, for her first day I must say I was very impressed and I've had them all several times. Gave her a tip that must have impressed the hell out of her, but what the hell, her first day and was completely satisfied, even snuck on juniors jacket without me noticing. Had to look and see if it was BBFS, highly recommend. When I came out of room all the girls and mamasan were there to greet me, not sure to see if she performed good? If I was happy? Or because of the tip I left. Still my ATF spot, just a bit far from Hernando.
What is the best AMP in NPR for a happy ending?
[QUOTE=Fortune5000;4184873]Greeting fellow mongers,
Been reading for a while and decided to start posting.
Went to HR last week and was hoping for one of my regulars, new girl there, it was her first day, if your thirsty Ash for Soda! Had some work done but nice rack and ass, for her first day I must say I was very impressed and I've had them all several times. Gave her a tip that must have impressed the hell out of her, but what the hell, her first day and was completely satisfied, even snuck on juniors jacket without me noticing. Had to look and see if it was BBFS, highly recommend. When I came out of room all the girls and mamasan were there to greet me, not sure to see if she performed good? If I was happy? Or because of the tip I left. Still my ATF spot, just a bit far from Hernando.[/QUOTE]A search for Hr has no details at all here. Anything you want to add so previous post can be seen? Or if I want to find out if YMMV is in place?
[QUOTE=MaxxD0941;4184208]I'm sorry, I got the name wrong!![/QUOTE]Just a hum drum standard service. Wasn't a rip-off. 1st the floor of the room had dirt all over. 2nd everything smelled like the kitty litter box needed to be serviced. The table shower sandals were still wet. Maybe call this the dirty red Apple. Standard rates apply.
[QUOTE=WhyTry;4185827]A search for Hr has no details at all here. Anything you want to add so previous post can be seen? Or if I want to find out if YMMV is in place?[/QUOTE]I imaging he's talking about Hans River.
[QUOTE=Skeot16;4185953]I imaging he's talking about Hans River.[/QUOTE]Thanks young man, I appreciate that useful detail.
Went to Hippi massage on Dale Mabry.
Drew Magaret. Not the prettiest bird but excellent massage. So good I didn't even ask for extras. I actually needed a good massage and she delivered. She didn't push to upsell any extras nor did I ask. I was to busy enjoying her technique.
5/9/6. Looks / attitude / services but I must emphasize. She gave the best massage to date. 70 for the hour and I tipped her fifty. Yeah it was that good. Not sure if there are extras but the next time I actually need a massage I will repeat.
Visited Han River last night and got a surprise. It was Soda! You guys may have seen her before if you frequented another (now closed) spa here in Tampa. Needless to say I was pleased as I knew I was in for a good visit.
If you guys haven't seen her before, Soda looks like a Korean version of Marilyn Monroe (in my opinion), with serious curves, thin waist and very healthy natural rack. Long brown wavy hair, sweet as can be! Service was awesome with full menu delivered with spirit for standard rates! The ladies at HR always so sweet and the place is so relaxed, just can't be beat.
Go see her if you miss Soda from couple years ago or if you have never, get on your horse and gallop over there stat!
After reading all the reviews had to take the dive into the River.
Didn't have the membership since it was the first time but the baby face plays well so no worries for me. Was hoping for Soda but got Momo instead. I was not disappointed in the slightest by that either. Rode like a champ and ducked me dry. On the way out meet with the legendary Soda and was told next time I come am all hers. Trust and believe will be going back. Oh and I stuck to the standard rates.
I won't be one of the newbies who cause the rates to rise.
After reading all the reviews had to take the dive into the Han River. To try a catch a look at the Legendary soda. To my disappointment I didn't get to meet with instead I meet with momo. I didn't have my membership as it was my first time but my baby face came through for me so I had no problem with Momo. Nice rub down with the flip standard fees and then off to the races. She did not disappoint let me tell you. After an hour fight I was worn out. On the way out momo went and got miss soda for me told her things in Korean and she looks at me and tells me next time I come in am all hers. I will be making a return.
[QUOTE=RickkyMonger;4192283]... Was hoping for Soda but got Momo instead.[/QUOTE]We should [B]ALL[/B] be so lucky to have something like that be the worst part of our day! It's kinda like saying "[I]Was hoping for gems, but got gold instead![/I] LOL!
Does this ad look funny to anybody else? Bill Ho.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/30656692/3245364568[/URL]
[QUOTE=BillHo;4194787]Does this ad look funny to anybody else? Bill Ho.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/30656692/3245364568[/URL][/QUOTE]Explicit photos aside, there is no location / address. Further there is no 324 area code in the US, to best of my knowledge. They are asking you to contact via email.
It isn't LE, it is simply a scam trying to harvest email addresses and phone numbers.
Someone help me out please.
Earlier I went to Outback Steakhoue in Temple Terrace and saw a place in the building right next door. As I pulled in my eyes locked onto some absolutely increade little darlings going from the car to the store. Once we were seated I made an excuse to head to the bathroom. I ran next door to check out what I saw and when I went in junior was awakened. Junior was happy. I just wanted to run in and check out the talent. There were 4 in there. 1 was absolutely heavenly. 1 was really good and 2 were okay. One jumped up and grabbed my hand and asked how long I would stay. I couldn't stay but would really like to return.
I won't be back in the area for sometime. Junior is still ready. I can't get her out of my mind. I have searched everywhere I could for some info on the place and can't anything. Someone please help me out and give me some I for about this place. It looks promising. It's called All Seasons Massage. It's in the building right on the north side of Outback Steakhouse. Please help a hungry man out Tell me about the heavenly sights I saw tonight.
[QUOTE=BillHo;4194787]Does this ad look funny to anybody else? Bill Ho.
[URL]https://escortbabylon.net/posts_view/30656692/3245364568[/URL][/QUOTE]Definitely a fake.
The text of the ad is mostly from an ad for Asian Massage Center¦Massage Mesa in Mesa Arizona. The explicit pics are from a porn movie. There have been a lot of fake ads like this one on that site for a while.
A few months ago I found a place on US19/ Palm Harbor. They had a few girls available, asked to park in the back. Finally I ended up somewhere else and forgot the name of this place. Anyone knows which one I'm talking about? Any experiences?
Drove by the Pure Massage in Riverview and noticed the open sign wasn't lit. Plus there was a big note on the front door. Didn't get out of the car to go read it.
I called 4 girls this morning and received no answer. Must be the Sunday. So I went to Red Apple Spa. I was not disappointed. Asked for and got Lucy, a 5 foot Chinese girl that I always ask for. Her massage was awesome! Definitely a LMT. Roamed over and under her minidress. HE as always. Left her 40 after paying the house 60 (with 20 off coupon). All was well that ended well.
Bill Ho.
Visited Osaka today. Decent massage followed by CBJ and cfs hot little Asian woman.
[URL]https://tampa.rubratings.com/136553[/URL]
This one is real. No issues at all. Strictly a rub.
Sounds like you're referring to Iris Spa, used to be Ace. In shopping center behind Chik Fil A.
[QUOTE=GiorgioSunny;4195626]A few months ago I found a place on US19/ Palm Harbor. They had a few girls available, asked to park in the back. Finally I ended up somewhere else and forgot the name of this place. Anyone knows which one I'm talking about? Any experiences?[/QUOTE]
Senior members PM me.
[QUOTE=JsTampa;4194899]Someone help me out please.
Earlier I went to Outback Steakhoue in Temple Terrace and saw a place in the building right next door. As I pulled in my eyes locked onto some absolutely increade little darlings going from the car to the store. Once we were seated I made an excuse to head to the bathroom. I ran next door to check out what I saw and when I went in junior was awakened. Junior was happy. I just wanted to run in and check out the talent. There were 4 in there. 1 was absolutely heavenly. 1 was really good and 2 were okay. One jumped up and grabbed my hand and asked how long I would stay. I couldn't stay but would really like to return.
I won't be back in the area for sometime. Junior is still ready. I can't get her out of my mind. I have searched everywhere I could for some info on the place and can't anything. Someone please help me out and give me some I for about this place. It looks promising. It's called All Seasons Massage. It's in the building right on the north side of Outback Steakhouse. Please help a hungry man out Tell me about the heavenly sights I saw tonight.[/QUOTE]Cash only, . 6 for the hour. 4 for the half. Not sure what all is on the menu but HE is a go for the standard. 4.