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[QUOTE=SsStuntCock;6952122]From the looks of it, it seems SBC is reaping a reputation as home base for high-end harlots.[/QUOTE]I would change high-end to pricey pretty girls. In my big head, high-end means quality in all aspects. But before I shoot myself in the foot and make a fool of myself, never saw Lila or Freesia before so give a break on that point. Peony on the other hand, I was impressed by her looks but not much else.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;6952295]I would change high-end to pricey pretty girls. In my big head, high-end means quality in all aspects. But before I shoot myself in the foot and make a fool of myself, never saw Lila or Freesia before so give a break on that point. Peony on the other hand, I was impressed by her looks but not much else.[/QUOTE]Pricey pretty. Well therein the name lies the issue. Dudes are paying above-market for looks and nothing else.
To those criticizing other's reactions to price gouging, no one is criticizing or stopping you from tipping, gifting, or taking these girls off the market altogether. Literally. And if you insist such posts create clutter, I invite you to use the ignore feature of the forum.
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;6952117]I will see her tomorrow and will report back.[/QUOTE]Great, I'd love to hear your assessment. Here's the advance report. Arina is a young, hot little spinner with a tight body. Today was her first day on the job and I got to visit her in the early evening at a well-known MW hotspot. Headline news: Arina is legit — 21 years old. I am 100% sure. I know some of you skeptical dudes will argue with me, but I'm telling you, if you doubt it, just go see her and judge for yourself. She is 21 and certainly a HYA. Her body is exactly as shown in her pics. Long dark hair. Really nice MM breasts. Flat tummy. Perfectly toned little ass and legs. Her kitty is not fully shaved, but it's a nicely trimmed Bush. Her English is pretty good. And her personality is bubbly, fun and flirty. On the flip side, Arina's face is overly Photoshopped in her pics. Her face is more college-girl cute than DDG. In fact, she looks exactly like those hot little Asian girls walking around UCLA or UC Irvine every day with little or no makeup but killer bodies. She could even pass for younger than 21. "Cute little college girl" is the best way to describe her. Keep in mind, she also has the skills of a young girl, so it will be our job to train her. She's willing to take guidance and she follows directions well. Let's teach her the standard and advanced k-girl moves. If we do that, I think she may become a superstar. I will definitely repeat with her. She feels like a time machine, taking you back to freshman year in college. So much fun back in the day!
And, no, I am not her booker or associated with her in any way. I'm just happy monger who had a good time with her tonight.
Available through these bookers and maybe others.
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/arina[/URL]
[URL]https://gardenksecret.cuties-sites.com/arina/[/URL]
[URL]https://myalbum.com/album/5Za9VJVTHw6F/[/URL]
[QUOTE=Tabbyyo;6951458]A lot of people crying about these rates, the fact is that there are plenty of guys who can drop 700 like you drop $1, these are the clients they are trying to target, not someone who makes less than a mil a year trying to squeeze out money to fuck a girl. If you cannot afford it, don't see them, stay with your $340 special girls, no problem at all, but don't talk like they are doing anything wrong, this is 100% supply and demand. SMH.[/QUOTE]It is not "supply and demand" as you do simply put it. It's a bunch of new money / trust fund toddlers with a touch of yellow fever that's fuckin' it up. They simply don't know the market value. Anyone who has worked for their money knows that simply because you can doesn't mean that you should. Anyone who's mongered in East Asia knows that Celine is a 7 at best in some cities and would fetch $300 at most for BBFS let alone GFE. In South Asia, Celine would be $500 a whole night no holds barred. The services provided isn't even on par with what goes on in the rest of the world. And this is America.
These KGirls are brothel workers. Period. They're not formally trained Geishas. They're not arm candy at the Lakers Game. They're not dinner dates that provide companionship. Shit, most of them can't speak English! They're definitely not in par with the Donguan Chinese chicks for sure. You ain't gettin' no fire and ice BJ's, no spinning BJ's. None of that shit. The fanciest thing we can get is a nice rim job from time to time. There's only ONE prostate milker in SoCal and she's like 50 or some shit. C'Mon. Man. Have some self respect.
They're simply here to grab cash and cut home. To achieve their goals as at the fastest rate, they undercut our domestic P4P providers prices. They are our remedy to GPS syndrome escorts and we fucking LOVE them for it and want to prolong their stays for as long as we can afford them! To do that, we pay them the least we can do they stay longer or repeat trips. Remember it's the P4 P game. There's no prestige in it. Only personal glory. We're NOT trying to outbid one another over a rare Picasso. They're not a Yamazaki 55 you flex on your pals. You want to pat yourself on the back with a trophy? Go bag an IG model with 100 k followers. Leave this shit to us.
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;6952586]Great, I'd love to hear your assessment. Here's the advance report. Arina is a young, hot little spinner with a tight body. Today was her first day on the job and I got to visit her in the early evening at a well-known MW hotspot. Headline news: Arina is legit 21 years old. I am 100% sure. I know some of you skeptical dudes will argue with me, but I'm telling you, if you doubt it, just go see her and judge for yourself. She is 21 and certainly a HYA. Her body is exactly as shown in her pics. Long dark hair. Really nice MM breasts. Flat tummy. Perfectly toned little ass and legs. Her kitty is not fully shaved, but it's a nicely trimmed Bush. Her English is pretty good. And her personality is bubbly, fun and flirty. On the flip side, Arina's face is overly Photoshopped in her pics. Her face is more college-girl cute than DDG. In fact, she looks exactly like those hot little Asian girls walking around UCLA or UC Irvine every day with little or no makeup but killer bodies. She could even pass for younger than 21. "Cute little college girl" is the best way to describe her. Keep in mind, she also has the skills of a young girl, so it will be our job to train her. She's willing to take guidance and she follows directions well. Let's teach her the standard and advanced k-girl moves. If we do that, I think she may become a superstar. I will definitely repeat with her. She feels like a time machine, taking you back to freshman year in college. So much fun back in the day!
And, no, I am not her booker or associated with her in any way. I'm just happy monger who had a good time with her tonight.
Available through these bookers and maybe others.
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/arina[/URL]
[URL]https://gardenksecret.cuties-sites.com/arina/[/URL]
[URL]https://myalbum.com/album/5Za9VJVTHw6F/[/URL][/QUOTE]Just got back from seeing Arina, I did the full hour BB with 2 shots and is the most I spend in this hobby which is ok because I have a bday coming up.
And this is my bday present.
She is young probably the youngest I fucked. We clicked which is amazing and the full hour was bliss and probably the tightest pussy I've had in this hobby.
She does this weird thing that she keeps winking at me at first it was weird but after a while I think it's a nervous tick.
I was about to leave a review at the oThER review sites but I want to keep her for ourselves.
I will see her again next week because I need a week to recover as I'm not in my 20's anymore.
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;6952993]Just got back from seeing Arina, I did the full hour BB with 2 shots and is the most I spend in this hobby which is ok because I have a bday coming up.
And this is my bday present.
She is young probably the youngest I fucked. We clicked which is amazing and the full hour was bliss and probably the tightest pussy I've had in this hobby.
She does this weird thing that she keeps winking at me at first it was weird but after a while I think it's a nervous tick.
I was about to leave a review at the oThER review sites but I want to keep her for ourselves.
I will see her again next week because I need a week to recover as I'm not in my 20's anymore.[/QUOTE]Glad to hear you also enjoyed her. What a body, eh? And, yes, so very tight. Indeed, the winking thing is a little distracting, but maybe she will stop doing it if guys mention it in their reviews.
She's a lot of fun. I'm with you on the weekly schedule. Probably will see her again after the holiday weekend. Don't forget to high-five me on your way out. LOL!
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;6952993]Just got back from seeing Arina, I did the full hour BB with 2 shots and is the most I spend in this hobby which is ok because I have a bday coming up.
And this is my bday present.
She is young probably the youngest I fucked. We clicked which is amazing and the full hour was bliss and probably the tightest pussy I've had in this hobby.
She does this weird thing that she keeps winking at me at first it was weird but after a while I think it's a nervous tick.
I was about to leave a review at the oThER review sites but I want to keep her for ourselves.
I will see her again next week because I need a week to recover as I'm not in my 20's anymore.[/QUOTE]Interesting. I'm intrigued I'll give her a shot if she allows me.
[QUOTE=DrThanos;6951480]$600 and you can't CIP is diabolical.[/QUOTE]Well I guess I know who I won't be seeing. That's insane. For nearly two hundred more, you can get a duo easily. That's crazy.
[QUOTE=AsianAssEater;6953029]Interesting. I'm intrigued I'll give her a shot if she allows me.[/QUOTE]She said she is 20 years old and the way she acts I think she is. And I'm not an expert but I think her tits is real, and feels real they are small but perky.
Just perfect fuck doll that's going to cause me problems. She has a Japanese roommate forget her name.
Highly recommend.
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;6953077]She said she is 20 years old and the way she acts I think she is. And I'm not an expert but I think her tits is real, and feels real they are small but perky.
Just perfect fuck doll that's going to cause me problems. She has a Japanese roommate forget her name.
Highly recommend.[/QUOTE]I just got back from seeing her, I agree that she is possibly 20, I am not an expert either but I absolutely guarantee that her tits are fake. If you don't notice the feeling of whatever it is that's in there, it's harder to miss the scar under each of them (but not a crazy Frankenstein style terrify the neighbors scar). I would have loved to meet her before the boob job, but oh well.
Driving away I thought to myself, wow that was my best Asian house visit ever, but by the time I got home I had remembered K-Doll Gyubeche was a bit better, and K-Fantasies Joan was k-girl perfection who will probably never be surpassed for me.
I thought the winking was cute, and she is super cute all the way around, even her Bush, which I would prefer completely bare, but again, oh well.
I seldom repeat due to the nature of girls on the branch of the hobby tree seldom living up to my expectations, and they aren't usually around long enough, but hopefully I can with this one.
Dave.
[QUOTE] These KGirls are brothel workers. Period. They're not formally trained Geishas. [/QUOTE]Please allow me to expand on this idea. There are several things that are deal breakers back East that are exhibited in today's LA market.
1. KGirl asking for donation upfront and counting money right in front of the customer. With the head down and fingers on the cash, even other girls would've looked down on the act with disgust. It's the girl's job to provide for the customer, it's the agency's job to ensure proper payment procedures, it's the org's job to make sure that non-payment and dashers never happens in the first place.
2. KGirl asking customer to undress strip naked then pulls a white towel to cover the personal belongings. If the first one earns a slap across the face, then this one is with a close-handed clenched backfist. There's no fortune foretold as bad as a hooker pulling a white cloth across a man's clothes whilst he's still living. It is worse than a straight up death threat or a spit to the face for the cultured gentleman.
3. KGirl with GFE tag offering BBFS. Ironic isn't it, back in the old days doing lowkey BBFS while working in high end GFE is automatic "You are fired". Now these hoes put a 600 tag with 100 upcharge, why don't you be more pathetic and put a 6000 hourly rate with a 100 BBFS charge. And what's the bullshit with no CIP when thousands of men slided in bare and trillions of sperms already exploded down your throat.
4. KGirl bookers asking for tips for priority booking. You really think orgs don't give a shit when you kick people that's been on two weeks waiting list for apt over guy that tips $ for today's appointment? You really think with this many people working the lines nobody would keep tabs? The solution is simple, no need to speak about it.
Last but not least new money boys with double digit and low triple digit body count need to slow the fk down. Yall know 90% of the horde over at W. LA aren't even on PreP or PeP, how about investing in yourself and spend some money on meds so you don't go around spreading diseases among the rest of us. Much thanks.
[QUOTE=BigZhangMang;6952986]It is not "supply and demand" as you do simply put it. It's a bunch of new money / trust fund toddlers with a touch of yellow fever that's fuckin' it up. They simply don't know the market value. Anyone who has worked for their money knows that simply because you can doesn't mean that you should. Anyone who's mongered in East Asia knows that Celine is a 7 at best in some cities and would fetch $300 at most for BBFS let alone GFE. In South Asia, Celine would be $500 a whole night no holds barred. The services provided isn't even on par with what goes on in the rest of the world. And this is America.[/QUOTE]I get what you're saying for the most part but comparing what rates a girl will get in different areas doesn't help us here. You got to take stock of the inventory of local girls here and then compare and contrast. No amount of negative posts in this forum is going to change the fact that the girls or owners are charging more because they think they can because "look I'm pretty, just don't look under the hood". I'm not saying don't complain, I'm just saying it isn't effective. What I think will work better is more chatter about girls that are good alternatives. Give those girls more business to show that prevailing rates do get good ROIs. For instance, IMO I would rather see Ina, Poppy (OC), Kendall (OC), or Alina twice than see Peony once. Peony beats them in aesthetic quality but the other girls beat Peony in overall quality. Leave the girls with the outlier rates to mongers who don't know better, who go for looks only, or who have more money than they can spend. Because at the end of the day, you can't change that.
Just an aside, I found Celine pretty but her service was meh.
Hello gentlemen.
Booker just send me or is recommending Zina.
No reviews but maybe some of you have feedback and is greatly aporeciated.
https://gardenksecret.cuties-sites.com/zina/
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;6953905]Hello gentlemen.
Booker just send me or is recommending Zina.
No reviews but maybe some of you have feedback and is greatly aporeciated.
https://gardenksecret.cuties-sites.com/zina/[/QUOTE]Plenty of info on her when she was in WLA offering all-in rates; check the LA KBB thread.
Also TER at Remi TER: 367154 and Heri / Miko TER: 369416.
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;6953905]Hello gentlemen.
Booker just send me or is recommending Zina.
No reviews but maybe some of you have feedback and is greatly aporeciated.
https://gardenksecret.cuties-sites.com/zina/[/QUOTE]She used to be known as Remi before she went upcharge, lots of reviews.
[QUOTE=ChefBoyardee;6954035]She used to be known as Remi before she went upcharge, lots of reviews.[/QUOTE]Most likely if you tip her the $100 for upcharge she will agree to smile 1 x during the session.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;6953432]I get what you're saying for the most part but comparing what rates a girl will get in different areas doesn't help us here. You got to take stock of the inventory of local girls here and then compare and contrast. No amount of negative posts in this forum is going to change the fact that the girls or owners are charging more because they think they can because "look I'm pretty, just don't look under the hood". I'm not saying don't complain, I'm just saying it isn't effective. What I think will work better is more chatter about girls that are good alternatives. Give those girls more business to show that prevailing rates do get good ROIs. For instance, IMO I would rather see Ina, Poppy (OC), Kendall (OC), or Alina twice than see Peony once. Peony beats them in aesthetic quality but the other girls beat Peony in overall quality. Leave the girls with the outlier rates to mongers who don't know better, who go for looks only, or who have more money than they can spend. Because at the end of the day, you can't change that.
Just an aside, I found Celine pretty but her service was meh.[/QUOTE]My bad that I didn't make it clear that my stance isn't directed at towards the providers nor their pricing. They can ask for whatever. I'm not bothered by that. I've eaten at Nusr-Et. I know what that game is about. This ongoing argument is about the dudes that pay the rates. I'm simply saying that they're paying LV prices for Coach while thinking they're getting a Hermes and I think it's silly. Hats off to the girls tho.
At the end of the day, we're here this forum to gain and share Intel for the betterment of one another. I've lone wolfed this hobby and wish I had known back then what I do now. I seen what Uber did to the underground Korean Taxi services and I won't stand silent as these yuppies gentrify the KGirls.
Hello folks,
Doing some browsing and saw this beauty, 1 review on the oThER review site and that's it.
Any of you had the pleasure and care to comment here or DM me.
Thanks.
[URL]https://gardenksecret.cuties-sites.com/emma/[/URL]
[QUOTE=BigZhangMang;6954225]My bad that I didn't make it clear that my stance isn't directed at towards the providers nor their pricing. They can ask for whatever. I'm not bothered by that. I've eaten at Nusr-Et. I know what that game is about. This ongoing argument is about the dudes that pay the rates. I'm simply saying that they're paying LV prices for Coach while thinking they're getting a Hermes and I think it's silly. Hats off to the girls tho.
At the end of the day, we're here this forum to gain and share Intel for the betterment of one another. I've lone wolfed this hobby and wish I had known back then what I do now. I seen what Uber did to the underground Korean Taxi services and I won't stand silent as these yuppies gentrify the KGirls.[/QUOTE]You're good bro, no need to apologize for anything. We all need to take part in constructive debate to have each other's back about the good and the bad. Else lone wolfing this frontier of kmilfs, duds, and hidden gems can be painful and stressful.
It does start from the girls though. They straight up threw a fancy and shiny net to catch the big fishies while the peons just slip through the netting. But to your point, the dudes that are paying those rates, myself included, are hoping to get A5 wagyu for the price. For me, I ended up with USDA prime. Nice and all but not what I expected or wanted. Elsewhere, other mongers might find Peony or Freesia the best thing since slice bread. We've all been there where the attraction was so deep that we can't help but inflate what think and say of them. That's their reality and they genuinely think that way. I'm not going to waste my time and breath trying to convince someone that has already made up their mind.
Instead, it's in our best interest to point out the facade based on our individual experience and fling it out here for others to evaluate it and arrive at their own conclusions.
[QUOTE=Shinjiku;6953124]Please allow me to expand on this idea. There are several things that are deal breakers back East that are exhibited in today's LA market.
1. KGirl asking for donation upfront and counting money right in front of the customer. With the head down and fingers on the cash, even other girls would've looked down on the act with disgust. It's the girl's job to provide for the customer, it's the agency's job to ensure proper payment procedures, it's the org's job to make sure that non-payment and dashers never happens in the first place.
2. KGirl asking customer to undress strip naked then pulls a white towel to cover the personal belongings. If the first one earns a slap across the face, then this one is with a close-handed clenched backfist. There's no fortune foretold as bad as a hooker pulling a white cloth across a man's clothes whilst he's still living. It is worse than a straight up death threat or a spit to the face for the cultured gentleman.
3. KGirl with GFE tag offering BBFS. Ironic isn't it, back in the old days doing lowkey BBFS while working in high end GFE is automatic "You are fired". Now these hoes put a 600 tag with 100 upcharge, why don't you be more pathetic and put a 6000 hourly rate with a 100 BBFS charge. And what's the bullshit with no CIP when thousands of men slided in bare and trillions of sperms already exploded down your throat.
4. KGirl bookers asking for tips for priority booking. You really think orgs don't give a shit when you kick people that's been on two weeks waiting list for apt over guy that tips $ for today's appointment? You really think with this many people working the lines nobody would keep tabs? The solution is simple, no need to speak about it.
Last but not least new money boys with double digit and low triple digit body count need to slow the fk down. Yall know 90% of the horde over at W. LA aren't even on PreP or PeP, how about investing in yourself and spend some money on meds so you don't go around spreading diseases among the rest of us. Much thanks.[/QUOTE]Nothing to add really but thank you for the interesting read. I guess I don't really know what I was like "back in the days" as its certainly a mystery to me being new-isn to all of this. I certainly enjoyed the read, thank you.
Recent buzz pushed me to make the appointment with Zina / Remi for the afternoon to test the waters and I think it was worthwhile. The upcharge for a visually younger woman is something I kind of accept at this point and for my personal taste, the upcharge is worth. Thanks to the senior members here that allowed me to do some research in lieu of the lack of intel on "Zina. ".
Pictures: Real but touched up. The two similar set of pics on both of these sites is who I saw when I arrived.
[URL]https://asianvibe.is/models/zina/[/URL]
[URL]https://www.candygirlla.com/portfolio-1/zina[/URL]
Looks: Pretty. Zina is for sure young and her tits are as nice as some of the intel suggests. It helps that she is thinner than a lot of girls so her bust is accentuated nicely by this factor. Her ass is decent but she's a top heavy girl for sure. Kinda similar to most Korean girls I see nowadays--pretty face, nice tits, does not do too much squats but all good, personally.
English: I find most younger working girls are better at English than their MILF counterparts and it was true with Zina as well. Nothing eloquent or gratuitous in her vocabulary but it made it easier to make small talk.
Attitude: Only thing I was worried about since some said she was the friendliest but tbh, I found no hint of being off put by her. I'm sure this is a YMMV as most things are but I had a good time with her. Pretty chill and I think she's aware of what sells and that includes a bubbly attitude. Hope she keeps it up as I do have plans to revisit her at some point.
Service: I enjoyed it as much as I enjoy most ladies in the roster when I have the funds to do so. Couldn't get enough of her tits as they are really nice to play with. I particularly enjoyed the BBBJ + Russian she offered as some girls don't do it voluntarily but she did. Zina, being as this as she is also made for a good fit and I could enjoy myself with a nice medium mix of tight grip but not so much that I was worried she'd stop me from going ham. We had a good time in cowgirl since she was able to ride without a break in between and ample room for dfk and breastfeeding when I wanted. Kinda hot as well hearing her curse in English when the strokes must've been hitting right. Ended up concluding the fun with a CIM finish and she did a decent job at rubbing my feet while I streamed the Spain vs Germany match LOL.
Expense: $420.
Repeat: Yes.
Please ask in Korean BB thread. We don't gate keep MILF here. I would have tried to see Emma if I believe pics are real and she's young. Pics look tasty.
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;6954452]Hello folks,
Doing some browsing and saw this beauty, 1 review on the oThER review site and that's it.
Any of you had the pleasure and care to comment here or DM me.
Thanks.
[URL]https://gardenksecret.cuties-sites.com/emma/[/URL][/QUOTE]
That's what I have been trying to say. More reviews of more girls will help us all. I just want to see at least cute looking young girls.
[QUOTE=ResilientJohn;6953432]I get what you're saying for the most part but comparing what rates a girl will get in different areas doesn't help us here. You got to take stock of the inventory of local girls here and then compare and contrast... What I think will work better is more chatter about girls that are good alternatives. Give those girls more business to show that prevailing rates do get good ROIs. For instance, IMO I would rather see Ina, Poppy (OC), Kendall (OC), or Alina twice than see Peony once. Peony beats them in aesthetic quality but the other girls beat Peony in overall quality...[/QUOTE]
Baby Sky back next Monday 7/8 [URL=https://get9irl.com/BabySky](contact here)[/URL].
[QUOTE=MikeNc1;6951650]Any one know where she went? She was in OC then moved to LA. Now no longer on site.
Did she go back to Korea or else where?[/QUOTE]
I am not complaining. I think the consumers have the right to complain tho. I will have to delete posts to try getting back to sharing hot girls. If you remember the first post here, this thread is about hot young Asian girls, there was no mention about service or price limit.
[QUOTE=Tabbyyo;6951458]A lot of people crying about these rates, the fact is that there are plenty of guys who can drop 700 like you drop $1, these are the clients they are trying to target, not someone who makes less than a mil a year trying to squeeze out money to fuck a girl. If you cannot afford it, don't see them, stay with your $340 special girls, no problem at all, but don't talk like they are doing anything wrong, this is 100% supply and demand. SMH.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6955391]I am not complaining. I think the consumers have the right to complain tho. I will have to delete posts to try getting back to sharing hot girls. If you remember the first post here, this thread is about hot young Asian girls, there was no mention about service or price limit.[/QUOTE]All hail boner ape titty. I thought this thread was just for the peeps that want to bang a hot girl even if she's MP level service.
I certified a Joan before. GuyBeChe is back as Yuha [URL=https://www.sweetasiangem.com/yuha](click here)[/URL].
[QUOTE=BikiniFan;6953105]...
Driving away I thought to myself, wow that was my best Asian house visit ever, but by the time I got home I had remembered K-Doll Gyubeche was a bit better, and K-Fantasies Joan was k-girl perfection who will probably never be surpassed...
Dave.[/QUOTE]
I remember certifying a Soo before as HYA.
[QUOTE=ZebraZebra;6947013]
...My current HYA ranking.
1. Peony.
2. Soo.
3. Ina.
4. Erica.
5. Celine.
Only 1 and 3 are currently working but 4 and 5 are returning in a few weeks.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BonerAppetitty;6955425]I remember certifying a Soo before as HYA.[/QUOTE]Might be a different Soo, but the one I'm referring to is B. Soo, who worked a few days in May of this year, but is back to Korea. 5'5, large MM 34 DDs, has some biblical tattoos on her back.
[QUOTE=Shinjiku;6953124]Please allow me to expand on this idea. There are several things that are deal breakers back East that are exhibited in today's LA market.
1. KGirl asking for donation upfront and counting money right in front of the customer. With the head down and fingers on the cash, even other girls would've looked down on the act with disgust. It's the girl's job to provide for the customer, it's the agency's job to ensure proper payment procedures, it's the org's job to make sure that non-payment and dashers never happens in the first place.
2. KGirl asking customer to undress strip naked then pulls a white towel to cover the personal belongings. If the first one earns a slap across the face, then this one is with a close-handed clenched backfist. There's no fortune foretold as bad as a hooker pulling a white cloth across a man's clothes whilst he's still living. It is worse than a straight up death threat or a spit to the face for the cultured gentleman.[/QUOTE]Shouldn't you consider why these things occur? Some seem reasonable to me, and others are what they are, whether we like it or not. My two cents on the issues you have raised are;.
1. How else will they know if you will pay for extra services? GFE v. Pse, MSOG, etc?
2. If there were not documented cases of guys spying on the girls for free and uninvited perhaps this would not happen.
3. It is what it is. GFE with BBFS to a select few has always been the rule. Don't see no CIP girls or don't pay for no CIP. Higher rates. Won't stop until the market stops it.
4. Which kgirl bookers ask for tips to get better bookings? Seasangirls -we already know that. Don't know any agencies that book 2 weeks out. I guess you do.
5. You didn't number it in your rant, but it should have one anyway. Why do you think other mongers will follow your advice? I haven't the faintest idea.
Already well reviewed on the forums but adding in my 2 cents here. Finally got around to seeing Baby Sol because stars never aligned for us.
Photos are fake but Baby Sol reminds me of the comedian / actress @maengseungzi in a way. She's cute and pretty when she smiles but definitely can have RBF if things aren't vibing. She's young, deep throats BBBJ very well, and provided above average kgirl service. Very soft young skin probably in her early 20's. Didn't see any tats.
She says she's only here for another week before she flies back. Sounded like she did not have an overly positive experience here in the states. She said she was turned off by how unsafe it is in LA and put off by all the homeless around the city. Ktown has turned into a dump over the past 5-6 years, but that's another discussion not for here. I only bring it up because it's a factor in her decision to go back. Any Baby Sol fans, go see her before she leaves. She was booked solid by you mongers when she first arrived two months ago so I'm sure you guys are out there.
[QUOTE=Heizenberg;6953905]Hello gentlemen.
Booker just send me or is recommending Zina.
No reviews but maybe some of you have feedback and is greatly aporeciated.
https://gardenksecret.cuties-sites.com/zina/[/QUOTE]Just one man's opinion here: Remi was fair value at 340. Now that she's joined the upcharge club, I'd put her in the overvalued category. I'm not opposed to upcharges at all. But the ladies who do it need to offer something above & beyond the norm. Remi doesn't do that. I could be wrong, but unless she significantly ups her game, I don't think she will be successful at this price point.
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;6956687]Just one man's opinion here: Remi was fair value at 340. Now that she's joined the upcharge club, I'd put her in the overvalued category. I'm not opposed to upcharges at all. But the ladies who do it need to offer something above & beyond the norm. Remi doesn't do that. I could be wrong, but unless she significantly ups her game, I don't think she will be successful at this price point.[/QUOTE]Thank you!! I think I'll stick with my favorite Arina for now.
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;6956687]I'm not opposed to upcharges at all. But the ladies who do it need to offer something above & beyond the norm. Remi doesn't do that. I could be wrong, but unless she significantly ups her game...[/QUOTE]So what is "beyond the norm" and "upping her game" that would justify the upcharge? She is charging for the same extra services that others who are "upcharging". She doesn't need to justify her pricing. If the market thinks she's worth it, then she'll get the customers.
[QUOTE=BuddhaHead;6957118]So what is "beyond the norm" and "upping her game" that would justify the upcharge? She is charging for the same extra services that others who are "upcharging". She doesn't need to justify her pricing. If the market thinks she's worth it, then she'll get the customers.[/QUOTE]I'm of the same mind. Their pussy, their price, end of story. In the same vein, it's their problem if customers shy away and that's okay. Thats the unspoken social contract of the free market folks.
To caveat, I would also love if pussy was cheaper. However, I know myself well enough that I'll still see the girls I want, regardless of the price tag. Just got to take the knocks that come with this hobby.
Also some girls have been telling me the booker fees went up too.
[QUOTE=PogeyBait;6957220]I'm of the same mind. Their pussy, their price, end of story. In the same vein, it's their problem if customers shy away and that's okay. Thats the unspoken social contract of the free market folks.
To caveat, I would also love if pussy was cheaper. However, I know myself well enough that I'll still see the girls I want, regardless of the price tag. Just got to take the knocks that come with this hobby.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Taliesin92;6956687]Just one man's opinion here: Remi was fair value at 340. Now that she's joined the upcharge club, I'd put her in the overvalued category. I'm not opposed to upcharges at all. But the ladies who do it need to offer something above & beyond the norm. Remi doesn't do that. I could be wrong, but unless she significantly ups her game, I don't think she will be successful at this price point.[/QUOTE]I agree with you completely.
I would add that 340 for the MILFs in WLA is overvalued but it is what it is.
Bay Area has better options, but the rate is climbing there too.
I'm a huge fan of Celine K. She's easily in my personal top 3, probably #1. First time I saw her I expected to be let down since the hype was unreal. But nope, she's incredible. To be honest I'm surprised it took her this long to up her rates, considering she is / was fully booked 2+ weeks at a time.
All that being said, there is one issue with her rate being upped to 500/ hr, and it's that Erica is 320/ hr. If you told me that they're sisters I wouldn't be surprised. I slightly prefer Celine but I'd rather have three sessions with Erica than two with Celine.
Regardless, as someone who has wasted Celine's new rate on countless shitty PD sessions, 500 is fair imo. She's a cut above the standard kgirl.
[QUOTE=BuddhaHead;6957118]So what is "beyond the norm" and "upping her game" that would justify the upcharge? She is charging for the same extra services that others who are "upcharging". She doesn't need to justify her pricing. If the market thinks she's worth it, then she'll get the customers.[/QUOTE]Have you ever seen Cari in Huntington Beach? If Remi could put on an all-star performance like that every time, totally consistent, without fail, that would be beyond the norm and upping her game. (BBFS or no BBFS, it's the performance that matters.).
And of course Remi doesn't need to justify her price. I never said she does. You've never once heard me whine and moan about a k-girl's price tag. They can charge whatever they like. And I can also offer my opinion of whether they will be successful at that price. Most likely, Remi won't be.
Time will tell.
[QUOTE=Gruyere;6957496]I'm a huge fan of Celine K. She's easily in my personal top 3, probably #1. First time I saw her I expected to be let down since the hype was unreal. But nope, she's incredible. To be honest I'm surprised it took her this long to up her rates, considering she is / was fully booked 2+ weeks at a time.
All that being said, there is one issue with her rate being upped to 500/ hr, and it's that Erica is 320/ hr. If you told me that they're sisters I wouldn't be surprised. I slightly prefer Celine but I'd rather have three sessions with Erica than two with Celine.
Regardless, as someone who has wasted Celine's new rate on countless shitty PD sessions, 500 is fair imo. She's a cut above the standard kgirl.[/QUOTE]Who else is in your top 3? Currently working. For me, it's Ina and Erica.
Celine is great, she definitely deserves a higher price, but like you said I'd rather see Erica 3 x than Celine 2 x.