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[QUOTE=Neruve;5253142]Hello all! I'm from Ohio but will be attending the Barrett Jackson show. I'd love to get with a provider while there to come to my hotel. Any recommendations. I would prefer Greek friendly! Thanks![/QUOTE][URL]https://www.preferred411.com/P111023[/URL]
She looks better in person, and she loves Greek.
[QUOTE=JChoi;5267203]Outcall only, is she sticky fbsm or is GFE FS available? Ty.[/QUOTE]She is GFE.
[QUOTE=KesterDiamond;5267655]She is GFE.[/QUOTE]Ty sir. Damn outcall makes it tougher for me. But I will need to add her on the to-do list.
[QUOTE=JChoi;5267715]Ty sir. Damn outcall makes it tougher for me. But I will need to add her on the to-do list.[/QUOTE]Outcall only is why I haven't seen her.
Her reviews on ter are stellar.
[QUOTE=KesterDiamond;5267723]Outcall only is why I haven't seen her.
Her reviews on ter are stellar.[/QUOTE]For $$$ she better be LOL- I don't use ter as much anymore. Perhaps you can pm me some of the details.
What the hell is with us mongers these days. I've complained before, but a small sample of men has changed the game. Was just before covid and QV rates are old HH rates, HH min rates now what an hour used to be with some, and 200-250 HR for some of these horrible providers is now the norm. Pandemic and all these women are taking rates up. You have to wait for a woman to have a bad day on business for her rates to be back to normal. We are letting women demand pictures of us (WHICH I don't KNOW WHY SOMEONE WOULD SEND A PHOTO OF THEMSELVES knowing that they have record of you if they get busted by police ever or lose their phone. Buddy got contacted by police this way once). Also, what is with the deposits now. If she is that broke or ghetto to not be able to afford a risk of driving 10-15 min, then she isn't a good provider anyway. And why would anyone send a deposit to someone they don't know, not even knowing if you will hear from her again. I did this stupid thing two as a rookie years ago, and will never again. Luckily for me it wasnt too much of a loss.
Now you read all these ads, and all you hear about is EVERYTHING SHE won't DO! Never seen anything like it. Some are charging 200 and don't even do BJS anymore. Some of us are paying money and she gives you one position and won't let you touch boobs, or suck on them, daty if your into that, etc. Everything is an upsell on top of overpriced women. Then we get on and complain about how bad the service is, yet guys still go out to see these women. Take advice from guys that say a provider is bad, and skip on them. They don't change cause men keep going out to see them thinking she will like them more than the other guy and have a different service. We have to get this shit together so we can get back in control. I see guy after guy pay $$ for these bad providers.
[QUOTE=JohnJjjj8888;5268372]What the hell is with us mongers these days. I've complained before, but a small sample of men has changed the game. Was just before covid and QV rates are old HH rates, HH min rates now what an hour used to be with some, and 200-250 HR for some of these horrible providers is now the norm. Pandemic and all these women are taking rates up. You have to wait for a woman to have a bad day on business for her rates to be back to normal. We are letting women demand pictures of us (WHICH I don't KNOW WHY SOMEONE WOULD SEND A PHOTO OF THEMSELVES knowing that they have record of you if they get busted by police ever or lose their phone. Buddy got contacted by police this way once). Also, what is with the deposits now. If she is that broke or ghetto to not be able to afford a risk of driving 10-15 min, then she isn't a good provider anyway. And why would anyone send a deposit to someone they don't know, not even knowing if you will hear from her again. I did this stupid thing two as a rookie years ago, and will never again. Luckily for me it wasnt too much of a loss.
Now you read all these ads, and all you hear about is EVERYTHING SHE won't DO! Never seen anything like it. Some are charging 200 and don't even do BJS anymore. Some of us are paying money and she gives you one position and won't let you touch boobs, or suck on them, daty if your into that, etc. Everything is an upsell on top of overpriced women. Then we get on and complain about how bad the service is, yet guys still go out to see these women. Take advice from guys that say a provider is bad, and skip on them. They don't change cause men keep going out to see them thinking she will like them more than the other guy and have a different service. We have to get this shit together so we can get back in control. I see guy after guy pay $$ for these bad providers.[/QUOTE]BROAVO. Perfect summary.
Look, the girls aren't accountants, but they realize that most everyone got yet another free check of $$$ in the mail. Maybe we were expecting that to finance 15 "dates". That's not their concern, they'd prefer you sign it right over all for one Snapchat video.
Not to mention the people who haven't been in the hobby (it's not like this site is a top Google result) now have cash in their pockets and their standard strip clubs aren't doing it for them so they don't know / care that you used to get a car date for 40 and a Wendy's milkshake. They're out for their own good too.
Nobody on here is driving prices up unless it's a weird one off chance (3 some, actual pornstar, etc). You're complaining that girls realized you got a stimilus check, and they're looking for it to be theirs. That's inflation.
[QUOTE=JohnJjjj8888;5268372]What the hell is with us mongers these days. I've complained before, but a small sample of men has changed the game. Was just before covid and QV rates are old HH rates, HH min rates now what an hour used to be with some, and 200-250 HR for some of these horrible providers is now the norm. Pandemic and all these women are taking rates up. You have to wait for a woman to have a bad day on business for her rates to be back to normal. We are letting women demand pictures of us (WHICH I don't KNOW WHY SOMEONE WOULD SEND A PHOTO OF THEMSELVES knowing that they have record of you if they get busted by police ever or lose their phone. Buddy got contacted by police this way once). Also, what is with the deposits now. If she is that broke or ghetto to not be able to afford a risk of driving 10-15 min, then she isn't a good provider anyway. And why would anyone send a deposit to someone they don't know, not even knowing if you will hear from her again. I did this stupid thing two as a rookie years ago, and will never again. Luckily for me it wasnt too much of a loss.
Now you read all these ads, and all you hear about is EVERYTHING SHE won't DO! Never seen anything like it. Some are charging 200 and don't even do BJS anymore. Some of us are paying money and she gives you one position and won't let you touch boobs, or suck on them, daty if your into that, etc. Everything is an upsell on top of overpriced women. Then we get on and complain about how bad the service is, yet guys still go out to see these women. Take advice from guys that say a provider is bad, and skip on them. They don't change cause men keep going out to see them thinking she will like them more than the other guy and have a different service. We have to get this shit together so we can get back in control. I see guy after guy pay $$ for these bad providers.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sveetoh;5268529]Look, the girls aren't accountants, but they realize that most everyone got yet another free check of $$$ in the mail. Maybe we were expecting that to finance 15 "dates". That's not their concern, they'd prefer you sign it right over all for one Snapchat video.
Not to mention the people who haven't been in the hobby (it's not like this site is a top Google result) now have cash in their pockets and their standard strip clubs aren't doing it for them so they don't know / care that you used to get a car date for 40 and a Wendy's milkshake. They're out for their own good too.
Nobody on here is driving prices up unless it's a weird one off chance (3 some, actual pornstar, etc). You're complaining that girls realized you got a stimilus check, and they're looking for it to be theirs. That's inflation.[/QUOTE]Actually, I didn't get a stimulus check. And there are some on here as I have read, paying too much to go complain on here about someone they read was a bad provider too. And if you don't that all women's clients are composed of men NOT ON THIS BOARD, then you are wrong. Even if it's one guy on here then it's one too many. Has nothing to do with stimulus checks, or inflation. If you want to use that as your guide as to rationalizing what women are quoting now. Then it's still more than the 2% average of inflation the last 5 years or so. You sound like you may be one of those over paying driving up the price around the board. It's like the owners in the NFL complaining about Free Agency prices. Well they need to stop overpaying and screwing up the salary cap for all other teams and themselves going forward. LOL.
Hey I mostly just do the AMPs.
But if you feel they're charging too much for their services, I ask what's your price point for sucking a 70 year old, 290 lb guys dick. I imagine it's a lot higher than the going rate.
As for the stimulus checks, I saw several dancers posting on IG "COME spend your stimmy on me". I get were not all getting it, but saying "I'm too rich to get a free money check" isn't a good way to talk a girl down from $$ to $.
[QUOTE=JohnJjjj8888;5268563]Actually, I didn't get a stimulus check. And there are some on here as I have read, paying too much to go complain on here about someone they read was a bad provider too. And if you don't that all women's clients are composed of men NOT ON THIS BOARD, then you are wrong. Even if it's one guy on here then it's one too many. Has nothing to do with stimulus checks, or inflation. If you want to use that as your guide as to rationalizing what women are quoting now. Then it's still more than the 2% average of inflation the last 5 years or so. You sound like you may be one of those over paying driving up the price around the board. It's like the owners in the NFL complaining about Free Agency prices. Well they need to stop overpaying and screwing up the salary cap for all other teams and themselves going forward. LOL.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sveetoh;5268856]Hey I mostly just do the AMPs.
But if you feel they're charging too much for their services, I ask what's your price point for sucking a 70 year old, 290 lb guys dick. I imagine it's a lot higher than the going rate.
As for the stimulus checks, I saw several dancers posting on IG "COME spend your stimmy on me". I get were not all getting it, but saying "I'm too rich to get a free money check" isn't a good way to talk a girl down from $$ to $.[/QUOTE]It's not about having or not having the money. It's about what we are setting the bar at what a BJ should be worth. I do have a right to pay or not pay whatever amount they post. It's not about that. It's about what we are doing to make it the norm. Shittier service from providers and they are all charging more. Same girls charging high rates, needing you to pay for an uber for outcalls on top of your donation. Listing more things about what they won't do on their ads so men pretty much are overpaying just to ram a dick for a few pumps. Been in the hobby for about 14 years now. We used to pay for the fantasy of the women as well, now it's just come do what I tell you "trick" and get to stepping.
[QUOTE=JohnJjjj8888;5269004]It's not about having or not having the money. It's about what we are setting the bar at what a BJ should be worth. I do have a right to pay or not pay whatever amount they post. It's not about that. It's about what we are doing to make it the norm. Shittier service from providerss and they are all charging more. Same girls charging high rates, needing you to pay for an uber for outcalls on top of your donation. Listing more things about what they won't do on their ads so men pretty much are overpaying just to ram a dick for a few pumps. Been in the hobby for about 14 years now. We used to pay for the fantasy of the women as well, now it's just come do what I tell you "trick" and get to stepping.[/QUOTE]Been in the hobby now also about 20 plus years and I was hearing the same exact thing when I started. "Prices are going up, don't over pay, the chicks used to be way better and do better yada yada yada".
You do have a right to pay what you see fit to pay and the provider has the right to seek out a rate that matches her expectation. I have been traveling the world and in every country I have been and it is always the same story. Kind of like in Endless Summer when they tour Australia and the locals tell them "you should of been here yesterday the waves were epic".
Truth is in every situation YMMV. It will always depend on you and the woman, and how you two interact and what you each feel is the right thing to do.
I have just about given up since I moved to Arizona. Finding girls my style is too much effort to find. Anyone have some good tips?
[QUOTE=Geo101;5257606]I just spent 3 weeks there and I can tell you that there isn't much to find. There are tons of ads but most of them are worthless trash trying to scam in one way or another. Most of them are so damn fugly I wouldn't think twice about it. There are a few older providers that are much more attractive and have the experience to handle your needs. Of course they usually charge a little more but in my opinion it's really the only avenue. Good luck.[/QUOTE]
Had the chance to see Lulu last night. I have to say she is one of the great ones. Had some of the smoothest skin ever. She was on time and answered the door in something simple. I placed donation down (she never asked) as she laid on the bed. I joined her and started to suck on her wonderful nipples on her nice sized boobs. Loved the moans. Then she rolled me on my bad and took my hard dick in her mouth. So sensual and great technique. I don't usually like to go south of the border, but I did. Her kitty was perfectly taken care of and tasted great. At for about 5 min loving those moans of her's again. Then we applied the rubber, and I slide inside of her. Very tight pussy. She is a freak and will talk to you which we all know makes it harder to hold out. Didn't get to as many positions that I wanted cause she make me cum so fast that I was almost embarrassed. Nothing was fake about her. Room was clean and she was as sweet as they come. Will be going to see her again soon. Affordable rates and she isn't as greedy as most of these other women overpriced. No rush from her at all. Have to stress again, get out and see her, she is a keeper for me.
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[QUOTE=Dude5293;5258794]If any mongers out there have intel on this one would greatly appreciate it. Pics look real to me and claims a broad menu so if she's real could be a nice addition to the rotation.
[URL]https://sumosear.ch/images/webpage/the-porcelain-princess-incall-all-fetishes-welcomed/30370960[/URL][/QUOTE]I actually saw her last year, when she lived over near Central Phoenix. Very nice place, safe area. Very professional, very accommodating. Glad you posted this because I just got back into town and was looking for her again.