General Reports

On your personal cell phone if you have a data plan or are connected to wireless then you will be able to text with the burner numbers via these apps. Making and receiving calls using the burner numbers can be iffy. The calls can be choppy or can end abruptly. If the provider wants to call you just let her know you are using a burner number and it might not work. She will most likely understand. Google voice numbers are reliable in making calls however you would want to make sure that the google account associated with that google voice number is not linked to a gmail address that you use to contact friends, family or co-workers. And make sure the google account is not registered to your real name. In other words you would want a burner google account.

If you want the next level of security then get a burner phone. Pay for it with cash and pay for the minutes with cash.

[QUOTE=White300;4039698]Are they wifi only? I see issues with "call me when you get here".[/QUOTE]

I'm just getting back into the hunt after a year long hiatus. Are face pics a new thing that a lot of girls are asking for? I've stopped communicating with 3 girls now because they insisted on a face pic. There's no way, no how a girl is getting my face on "film". I'll send out dick pics all day but my face is shy. Anyone else running into this or is it just me?

John.

Don't agree to this. It's bs. Plenty of decent girls not asking for I'd info. We are all refusing this. When they have no biz it will end, trust me.

[QUOTE=Grjohn;4044526]I'm just getting back into the hunt after a year long hiatus. Are face pics a new thing that a lot of girls are asking for? I've stopped communicating with 3 girls now because they insisted on a face pic. There's no way, no how a girl is getting my face on "film". I'll send out dick pics all day but my face is shy. Anyone else running into this or is it just me?

John.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Monger01;4044564]Don't agree to this. It's bs. Plenty of decent girls not asking for I'd info. We are all refusing this. When they have no biz it will end, trust me.[/QUOTE]Its been my experience that many times when providers are requesting a face pic, its because they have told one or several "someone's" that they are no longer "providing". Be it they have led this person to believe they are "exclusive" (in an attempt to get more $$) or they have become "involved" with a jon that she's trying to keep a secret from. They will request a face pic to make sure its not their (in) significant other before agreeing to a date. This is an attempt (on their part) to protect the relationship with their larger "cash cows" in the pasture or perhaps they are using this person, posing as their "girlfriend" so that they have a nice place to live and are afforded many luxuries that they wouldn't have otherwise (living out of hotels). Seen it many times, including being on the opposite end of it when a provider claimed she was developing feelings for me. I fell for it, but began noticing lots of things that were just "off". Long periods of dead air time when she would not answer calls or texts, gone for days, even weeks at a time. I became suspicious and downloaded a text app and began texting her from the app. Once I busted her out a couple of times, she started asking for a pic as soon as she would get a text inquiring about a "date". There are also many of these providers who have legal issues or active cases that involve or could impact their parenting time with their children. Say someone sends an anonymous link to one of her ads to CPS and they begin an investigation and suspend her parenting rights. And yes, there are even those who are likely working with law enforcement but I don't think that just because they ask for a picture of you that it automatically should be assumed that they are. Be smart about it.

I have had this request a few times. I always tell them there is no way I am sending my picture.

[QUOTE=Grjohn;4044526]I'm just getting back into the hunt after a year long hiatus. Are face pics a new thing that a lot of girls are asking for? I've stopped communicating with 3 girls now because they insisted on a face pic. There's no way, no how a girl is getting my face on "film". I'll send out dick pics all day but my face is shy. Anyone else running into this or is it just me?

John.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Wolverines;4044758]I have had this request a few times. I always tell them there is no way I am sending my picture.[/QUOTE]I don't say anything. I just laugh.

[QUOTE=JonJacobs;4044612]Its been my experience that many times when providers are requesting a face pic, its because they have told one or several "someone's" that they are no longer "providing". Be it they have led this person to believe they are "exclusive" (in an attempt to get more $$) or they have become "involved" with a jon that she's trying to keep a secret from. They will request a face pic to make sure its not their (in) significant other before agreeing to a date. This is an attempt (on their part) to protect the relationship with their larger "cash cows" in the pasture or perhaps they are using this person, posing as their "girlfriend" so that they have a nice place to live and are afforded many luxuries that they wouldn't have otherwise (living out of hotels). Seen it many times, including being on the opposite end of it when a provider claimed she was developing feelings for me. I fell for it, but began noticing lots of things that were just "off". Long periods of dead air time when she would not answer calls or texts, gone for days, even weeks at a time. I became suspicious and downloaded a text app and began texting her from the app. Once I busted her out a couple of times, she started asking for a pic as soon as she would get a text inquiring about a "date". There are also many of these providers who have legal issues or active cases that involve or could impact their parenting time with their children. Say someone sends an anonymous link to one of her ads to CPS and they begin an investigation and suspend her parenting rights. And yes, there are even those who are likely working with law enforcement but I don't think that just because they ask for a picture of you that it automatically should be assumed that they are. Be smart about it.[/QUOTE]Wouldn't it be easy for LE to bust the idiot who sent their face picture to match up with their request for an appointment. Never, ever send face pic or even a dic pic, anything that could identify you and match you up with the appointment where you have agreed to exchange dollars for sexual favors!

The girl you described above that was asking guys to send a picture to screen out a boyfriend sounds pretty stupid. If a boyfriend suspected it was her in an advertisement that didn't include her picture, or he wanted to schedule an appointment with her to "bust" her for hooking on him. Unless he was dumber than her he would just send a picture of someone else to secure the appointment.

So I had some free time today and texted just about every real woman on skipthegames. I only got 2 responses out of like 30 different texts. Skipthegames is nothing but a game. I have been browsing cityxguide as well with the same outcome. Are there any other sites anyone can provide me with to find women who respond. What I'd do for CL casual encounters right now. I am also in need of a reliable lady who isn't afraid of car dates and who can meet me on occasion at Night before work if anyone has suggestions on any of this it would be greatly appreciated.

Happy Holidays may your jingle bells ring.

So I had an appointment the other day I can't get out of my head. I walked in and the girl to my surprise wound up being someone I went to school with and also friends on social media. She has always been a nice person and we where friendly back in the day, but she was also always unstable. On social media she talks a lot about being broke. In the past we have sent an occasional non hobby related private message usually about nothing. I went forward with the appointment, didn't haggle, and had a good time. I would normally repeat.

My concern is that on social media I have a very public S. O, family, and career. I did ask her if everything was going to be cool and she reassured me. So far no issues, but I have a lot of regret and anxiety over this.

Any thoughts on how I can maintain leverage?

Or how have you handled your self if you have been blackmailed in the past?

[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4045456]So I had some free time today and texted just about every real woman on skipthegames. I only got 2 responses out of like 30 different texts. Skipthegames is nothing but a game. I have been browsing cityxguide as well with the same outcome. Are there any other sites anyone can provide me with to find women who respond. What I'd do for CL casual encounters right now. I am also in need of a reliable lady who isn't afraid of car dates and who can meet me on occasion at Night before work if anyone has suggestions on any of this it would be greatly appreciated.

Happy Holidays may your jingle bells ring.[/QUOTE]I saw her years ago, and I hear that she still provides. SexyKris would be a good choice.

Weekends can be difficult especially these days when the pickins are slim. I would say focus on the CityXGuide Verified providers. And you may want to consider a sugar arrangement. There is a forum for that under the Grand Rapids section.

[QUOTE=Grizzly27;4045456]So I had some free time today and texted just about every real woman on skipthegames. I only got 2 responses out of like 30 different texts. Skipthegames is nothing but a game. I have been browsing cityxguide as well with the same outcome. Are there any other sites anyone can provide me with to find women who respond. What I'd do for CL casual encounters right now. I am also in need of a reliable lady who isn't afraid of car dates and who can meet me on occasion at Night before work if anyone has suggestions on any of this it would be greatly appreciated.

Happy Holidays may your jingle bells ring.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=BluBalls1;4045624]So I had an appointment the other day I can't get out of my head. I walked in and the girl to my surprise wound up being someone I went to school with and also friends on social media. She has always been a nice person and we where friendly back in the day, but she was also always unstable. On social media she talks a lot about being broke. In the past we have sent an occasional non hobby related private message usually about nothing. I went forward with the appointment, didn't haggle, and had a good time. I would normally repeat.

My concern is that on social media I have a very public S. O, family, and career. I did ask her if everything was going to be cool and she reassured me. So far no issues, but I have a lot of regret and anxiety over this.

Any thoughts on how I can maintain leverage?

Or how have you handled your self if you have been blackmailed in the past?[/QUOTE]Unfortunately this problem is part of the everyday risk in this hobby.

Years ago I was escorted to a massage table by Mommsen, I was face down when the girl started the massage. On the flip we both realized we knew each other. Ended fine and we never connected again.

Another time I went to a hotel room and she recognized me, I did not recognize her because I knew her as a teenager, it Went well without any problems. We have seen each other a lot since then. What the hell, make the best of it.

I also use to see a very popular provider in the hobby that was on my step daughter's FB, She never recognized me (I think) I saw her about 20 times maybe more. Worked for me.

1 provider has formally met my wife and another bumped into us at a restaurant. (so far no problems).

The NoNonsenseLady has met most of my family except my wife and I would not worry if she ever did meet my wife. She is so cool about everything, not only a great provider, an Awesome friend that I miss very much since she moved to San Diego. She has helped me a lot in this hobby. Taught me how to identify all the red flags about providers and many other things necessary to navigate through the hobby too.

What I'm trying to say is it will probably happen again. It's a risk we take.

Most providers do not want the world to know what they're doing. If they expose you, they expose themselves too.

Your girl could be one of our weekend worriers that has a job and a real life outside of the hobby too.

If she's not a drug user, has a real job and you liked the appointment, I would see her again. It's hard to find honest trustworthy providers that we like. If there is any damage, it's already done. Make the best of it. That's just me.

As far as the blackmail, That will usually depend if the girl is using Drugs, in their mind anything goes to get the drugs.

The only time a girl attempted to blackmail me, I was playing captain save a hoe and thought I could get it cheaper if I made her my girlfriend. WRONG. Women are always looking at what's in it for them, just like we are. When the women are on drugs they will make sure they get what they need. Even if it means blackmail. She wasn't successful (that's a long story). The attempted blackmail happened before Benz was born.
The blackmail attempt is permanently resolved now. She died in July of 2018. I'm sure it was drug related. She had a Doctor prescribing anything she needed.

In closing, I Should have Listened to my dads advice. " The cheapest piece of ass you will ever have is the one you pay for, you know what the cost is up front. " My dad was a great mentor and would have loved this site.

Happy hunting and stay safe.

Hope this helps.

[QUOTE=Benz1;4046238]Unfortunately this problem is part of the everyday risk in this hobby.

Years ago I was escorted to a massage table by Mommsen, I was face down when the girl started the massage. On the flip we both realized we knew each other. Ended fine and we never connected again.

Another time I went to a hotel room and she recognized me, I did not recognize her because I knew her as a teenager, it Went well without any problems. We have seen each other a lot since then. What the hell, make the best of it.

I also use to see a very popular provider in the hobby that was on my step daughter's FB, She never recognized me (I think) I saw her about 20 times maybe more. Worked for me.

1 provider has formally met my wife and another bumped into us at a restaurant. (so far no problems).

The NoNonsenseLady has met most of my family except my wife and I would not worry if she ever did meet my wife. She is so cool about everything, not only a great provider, an Awesome friend that I miss very much since she moved to San Diego. She has helped me a lot in this hobby. Taught me how to identify all the red flags about providers and many other things necessary to navigate through the hobby too.

What I'm trying to say is it will probably happen again. It's a risk we take...[/QUOTE]Thanks for the reply. Without naming names, can you please be as detailed as possible about your blackmail.

What did she say? What was her method of communication and threat? How did you handle it?

It might not only help me, but others that could wind up in this position.

[QUOTE=BluBalls1;4045624]So I had an appointment the other day I can't get out of my head. I walked in and the girl to my surprise wound up being someone I went to school with and also friends on social media. She has always been a nice person and we where friendly back in the day, but she was also always unstable. On social media she talks a lot about being broke. In the past we have sent an occasional non hobby related private message usually about nothing. I went forward with the appointment, didn't haggle, and had a good time. I would normally repeat.

My concern is that on social media I have a very public S. O, family, and career. I did ask her if everything was going to be cool and she reassured me. So far no issues, but I have a lot of regret and anxiety over this.

Any thoughts on how I can maintain leverage?

Or how have you handled your self if you have been blackmailed in the past?[/QUOTE]It's very doubtful this girl will try to blackmail you, considering you do know her and presumably some of her friends since you went to school with them. Unfortunately if she is a member here and were to read this you might have given her an idea that you are vulnerable and a possible mark if she is desperate for money. If she does contact you for money in exchange for silence I would recommend not falling for it or threatening her back, just ignore it. Most threats never are followed through on. If she actually does "out you" just deny and reference the fact that she's broke and unstable, I'm sure anyone that knows her would also know she's unstable. I'm assuming she doesn't actually have any hard proof that you paid her for sex. If she has proof of some sort that means you weren't being very careful in the beginning by giving her something hard she can blackmail with (like a real phone number text, a picture, phone records of calls to a real phone number of yours, etc.). In that case, I would play hardball with her and not give in to her demands, it's still unlikely she will follow through and if she does you just have to take the medicine you earned.

The comment that you have "alot of regret and anxiety over this" is probably a bigger concern you should address than the remote possibiility she might blackmail you. I would recommend serious introspection and maybe a good counselor.

[QUOTE=BluBalls1;4046299]Thanks for the reply. Without naming names, can you please be as detailed as possible about your blackmail.

What did she say? What was her method of communication and threat? How did you handle it?

It might not only help me, but others that could wind up in this position.[/QUOTE]I like Blackfire's advice for you better than mine.

In my earlier post I mentioned how I would handle it if it was me. Meeting people you know will happen again to me, you and others too.

If I give info of how I thrawted a providers attempt to black mail me, it will prepare all providers reading this on how we might react. Everything said is best left to PM. If and when it happens send me a message.

There are a lot of variables about both parties that make each situation different from the others.

I can not anticipate the thoughts or reactions of any woman but if it's a drug addict they become more predictable.

However if she can detect a lot of fear, you have lost all negotiations before it starts. This hobby requires some negotiating and navigating skills at many different levels, sometimes you need ice in your veins.

If you are losing sleep over something that hasn't happened yet, listen to Blackfire, get some counseling.