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Lap Dance Types
Ok, let's clarify the different kinds of dances because saying lap dance is kinda vague and kinda leads one to think of dances in back.
Stage Dance. Contact may vary depending on the girl and / or club. This is had stitting at a stage during a 3 song set. People tip anywhere from $1-$5 depending on the person and the level of the performance.
Table Dance. This is generally in the lap as you sit at a table nursing a drink or waiting for something you like to come up on stage. Girls walk around and see if people in the general audience wants a quick dance. I could be wrong, but this does not seem as common as it used to be. People tip anywhere from $5-$10 depending on the person and the level of the performance.
Private Dance- dance in the private / VIP / Champagne area in a chair or bed at the club's agreed upon price for whichever tier / area you choose.
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[QUOTE=KC Questor;1741524]PS: As far as I know, no one in Washington Park does private lap dances for $20 unless you buy multiples. At MK a private dance starts at $30, although of course you can negotiate for multiples.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I found it odd that I can get a "bed dance" in a fairly private room at Hollywood with a young hottie for $25 but the older and less pretty girls at MK wanted at least $30 for a dance on a chair in a "booth" with little real privacy.
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[QUOTE=Rodimus54; 1741610]Ok, let's clarify the different kinds of dances because saying lap dance is kinda vague and kinda leads one to think of dances in back.
Stage Dance. Contact may vary depending on the girl and / or club. This is had stitting at a stage during a 3 song set. People tip anywhere from $1-$5 depending on the person and the level of the performance.
Table Dance. This is generally in the lap as you sit at a table nursing a drink or waiting for something you like to come up on stage. Girls walk around and see if people in the general audience wants a quick dance. I could be wrong, but this does not seem as common as it used to be. People tip anywhere from $5-$10 depending on the person and the level of the performance.
Private Dance- dance in the private / VIP / Champagne area in a chair or bed at the club's agreed upon price for whichever tier / area you choose.[/QUOTE]Rodimus, if you haven't been to these clubs, you may not get it. At many of the clubs in Washington Park, if you go up to the stage the girl will climb down off the stage and sit in your lap. She'll put your hands on her tits if you don't do it yourself. You can touch her all over. Sometimes even her pussy. Often, she'll rub your dick through your pants. I've had girls take my dick out of my pants at the stage and rub or even lick it. If no other guys come up to the stage, she may stay there the whole song. I tip $3-$5 for this.
I call them lap dances, not stage dances, because I am stressing that she is in my lap. The dances you get at the stage at Miss Kitty's for $5 are better than the $25 bed dances at Hollywood or the $30 VIP dances at any strip club in Missouri that I have been to. Yeah, everyone in the club can see you. Yeah, if another guy comes up to the stage you may not get the full song (although sometimes she'll wait for the song to end before moving over). But most of the time you are getting a full contact, full lap dance.
Calling it a stage dance suggests that she stays on the stage. Go into Hollywood and get a stage dance and she'll kneel on the stage in front of you and maybe grab your hands and run them down her body. Once. That's a stage dance. Table dances are less common, as you say. Not rare, but not common either. Sometimes if a girl is trying to get you to buy a private but she isn't going to be on stage for a while, she may offer a dance at the table.
If I mean private dances in the private/VIP area -- usually costing $25-40 per song -- I'll call them private dances. Lap dance just means she was in my lap.
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[QUOTE=KC Questor;1741524]As far as I know, no one in Washington Park does private lap dances for $20 unless you buy multiples.[/QUOTE]Hi KC. It's nice to see you back. Don't make yourself a stranger. Larry Flynt's Hustler Club has $20 lap dances. They're done on a miniature couch. Their bed dances are 30. If I recall, Dollie's also has $20 lap dances (or you might be able to talk the ladies into it). I think the same is true for C-Mowe's and Blondies, but for sure, Hustler's couch dances are set in stone at $20 (it's house policy). Damn, I had a great time with Porsche at the Hustler Club a while back-maybe a year ago. What a friggin' good couch dancer. Anyone else remember her? Oh mama, gona make you sing, gona make you groove! Don't think she works there or anywhere around here anymore, unfortunately. Her dances are the best I've ever had at Hustler.
Speaking of your goddess Cherry at C-Mowe's, I'm sorry to hear she quoted you such an outrageously high sum of 200 plus 50 to the house. Is it possible you came on too strong, and she thought she could take you for more than the usual prices? That's happened to me before, and like you, I'll just walk. A couple weeks ago, Cherry quoted me 100 for the back benches, and 20 or 40 for the house, but I was low on cash.
Rosco
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[QUOTE=Rosco2;1743955]Hi KC. It's nice to see you back. Don't make yourself a stranger. Larry Flynt's Hustler Club has $20 lap dances. They're done on a miniature couch. Their bed dances are 30. If I recall, Dollie's also has $20 lap dances (or you might be able to talk the ladies into it). I think the same is true for C-Mowe's and Blondies, but for sure, Hustler's couch dances are set in stone at $20 (it's house policy). Damn, I had a great time with Porsche at the Hustler Club a while back-maybe a year ago. What a friggin' good couch dancer. Anyone else remember her? Oh mama, gona make you sing, gona make you groove! Don't think she works there or anywhere around here anymore, unfortunately. Her dances are the best I've ever had at Hustler.[/QUOTE]Ah, well I've only been in Hustler once and I left almost immediately. It is everything I hate about typical strip clubs. $20 for a lap dance is reasonable, but only if it builds up to something. Stage dances are awful and the chance for extras or takeout is negligible. I've never gotten just a lap dance at Dollies or C-Mowes, so they may be $20, but when you can get a great dance at the stage for $5 why would I? I only do privates there if I am looking for extras.
[QUOTE=Rosco2;1743955]Speaking of your goddess Cherry at C-Mowe's, I'm sorry to hear she quoted you such an outrageously high sum of 200 plus 50 to the house. Is it possible you came on too strong, and she thought she could take you for more than the usual prices? That's happened to me before, and like you, I'll just walk. A couple weeks ago, Cherry quoted me 100 for the back benches, and 20 or 40 for the house, but I was low on cash.[/quote]That's promising. She probably did take me for a mark, as I was dressed in business attire. Maybe I'll look for her next time and see if I can get her to come down a bit. If she had offered $100+$40 I'd have been all over that.
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I don't recall any discussion of the new bridge. I wonder how it will impact WP versus Brooklyn. WP is now very accessible and Brooklyn is not. That is about to change significantly.
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[QUOTE=Purleybaker;1744858]I don't recall any discussion of the new bridge. I wonder how it will impact WP versus Brooklyn. WP is now very accessible and Brooklyn is not. That is about to change significantly.[/QUOTE]Yes it is. Maybe it will breath some new life into the Brooklyn clubs which are in pretty desperate need of that.
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[QUOTE=STLguy1980; 1713096]So. Apparently the ability to get more than a bed dance in the back at Hollywood has increased A LOT. The last couple weekends in the back have been very interesting including a couple BJ's (including cim with one girl) and HJ's on every trip to the back. Not sure what the change was but happy hunting.
I wish I could same at Hustler but no luck getting more than a rub in the back.[/QUOTE]Visited StL on Tuesday. Stopped by Hollywood in the afternoon. A girl told me the owner had just finished doing a round of firing lots of girls for breaking rules. This girl was happy because it levels the playing field for good girls like her. I nodded in agreement and told her I was glad, too. Then I tipped her and said I had just received a text message and had to leave. I knew it was too good to last.
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[QUOTE=MojoMan;1745986]Visited StL on Tuesday. Stopped by Hollywood in the afternoon. A girl told me the owner had just finished doing a round of firing lots of girls for breaking rules. This girl was happy because it levels the playing field for good girls like her. I nodded in agreement and told her I was glad, too. Then I tipped her and said I had just received a text message and had to leave. I knew it was too good to last.[/QUOTE]Yep, got a text from one of the girls last week telling me she was fired and looking for a new place to work and asking if I wanted to hook up. On the bright side, there are still girls that work there that will play around if they are not going to get caught. Got one worked up in the back that we hit the WP hotel at 4am for an hour or so after her shift. You can still play in the back but the HJ / BJ combo might be out on a busy night.
As far as a fair playing field? It always was fair. If there are girls are offering extra in the back, don't ***** about it, offer the same and get paid or don't and deal with the other girls making more money.
I had this discussion with a girl at Hollywood the last time I was there. She was ecstatic that girls were fired. I found out it was not because they were offering extras in the back (because she offered the exact same things to me) it was that they were offering it for A LOT less than she was. I got it for $100 the night I was in there from the last report and she wanted $300 after the girls were fired. Based on her comments I have a feeling she was the one who ratted them out.
5-6 really good looking girls got booted and now we are stuck with this chick who would be ok if not for her constant talk about money and the fact at 20 she has the body of a woman twice her age who gave birth to three kids. Stretch marks everywhere on her yet she spend the whole time she was talking to me complaining about the 'thin, fake blonde girls'. My response to her was "Oh. You mean the hot strippers the guys are taking to the back?". She got up and left shorty after.
Bottom line is, the game is the same. Just have to be more discreet about it and be aware the girls are watched more now.
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[QUOTE=STLguy1980;1746016]I found out it was not because they were offering extras in the back (because she offered the exact same things to me) it was that they were offering it for A LOT less than she was. I got it for $100 the night I was in there from the last report and she wanted $300 after the girls were fired. Based on her comments I have a feeling she was the one who ratted them out.[/QUOTE]My experience listening to dancers complain about other dancers is the same. Always about the price not the product offered. Several years ago dancers at Kitty's were ready to burn the place down over a new girl cutting the HJ price from $40 to $25. One complained to Humphrey. It was pretty funny.
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Hollywood
[QUOTE=MojoMan;1745986]Visited StL on Tuesday. Stopped by Hollywood in the afternoon. A girl told me the owner had just finished doing a round of firing lots of girls for breaking rules. This girl was happy because it levels the playing field for good girls like her. I nodded in agreement and told her I was glad, too. Then I tipped her and said I had just received a text message and had to leave. I knew it was too good to last.[/QUOTE]Just a little clarification, did this happen after this past weekend or before that. I stopped in Saturday and just curious. Post almost sounds like it was done the day you were there but unsure.
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I can confirm that extras are still available at Hollywood if you find the right girl (s).
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In the area on Sunday
Will be downtown St Louis on Sunday. Never been to the area what are the best clubs to go to? Are they in safe areas? Prefer a chill place where I could get some extras.
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St Louis
[QUOTE=;1753363]Will be downtown St Louis on Sunday. Never been to the area what are the best clubs to go to? Are they in safe areas? Prefer a chill place where I could get some extras.[/QUOTE]Recommend your cross the river into Illinois take I-64 east to Washington Park. Check out C-Mowes and Dollies. Not sure of the type of lady your after but both bars are open Sunday
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[QUOTE=Sparky140;1753728]Recommend your cross the river into Illinois take I-64 east to Washington Park. Check out C-Mowes and Dollies. Not sure of the type of lady your after but both bars are open Sunday[/QUOTE]I'm guessing he was planning on crossing the river anyway, since he posted in the Washington park, IL board.
[QUOTE=WolfBoner;1753363]Will be downtown St Louis on Sunday. Never been to the area what are the best clubs to go to? Are they in safe areas? Prefer a chill place where I could get some extras.[/QUOTE]For a chill place with extras in the Washington Park area, I'd suggest Wise Guys or Cheeks. They are good balance between sleazy and classy, with extras available fairly readily. But feel free to read back through the reports. Everyone has their own ideas.