[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;5450456]I agree, but once in awhile to me it's fun and funny having a grandma jerk me off.[/QUOTE]Saggy tits with long nipples. A pussy that can accommodate a larger organ. What's their not to love?
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[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;5450456]I agree, but once in awhile to me it's fun and funny having a grandma jerk me off.[/QUOTE]Saggy tits with long nipples. A pussy that can accommodate a larger organ. What's their not to love?
[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;5450456]I agree, but once in awhile to me it's fun and funny having a grandma jerk me off.[/QUOTE]You've got some problems, son.
[QUOTE=AddysaDouche;5450515]Saggy tits with long nipples. A pussy that can accommodate a larger organ. What's their not to love?[/QUOTE]Just signed on as a member and would like to know how to create a new post.
[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;5450456]I agree, but once in awhile to me it's fun and funny having a grandma jerk me off.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AddysaDouche;5450515]Saggy tits with long nipples. A pussy that can accommodate a larger organ. What's their not to love?[/QUOTE]
And when they take their teeth out for a gum job, oh my!
Super babes are cute and fun. But every now and then it's nice to see an older lady for a change of pace.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5451159]Just signed on as a member and would like to know how to create a new post.[/QUOTE]Up at the top of the page click on "Add Report".
[QUOTE=RonM;5452256]Super babes are cute and fun. But every now and then it's nice to see an older lady for a change of pace.[/QUOTE]Super babes are great but outrageously priced.
At least the grannies are keeping it real with their pricing.
[QUOTE=RichL1234;5452547]Super babes are great but outrageously priced.
At least the grannies are keeping it real with their pricing.[/QUOTE]True about the older ladies. Not always true about Super Babes.
[QUOTE=Wenger;5451970]And when they take their teeth out for a gum job, oh my![/QUOTE]Where do you find these grannies. And do they accept plain old cash?
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5451159]Just signed on as a member and would like to know how to create a new post.[/QUOTE]How did you create this one? 🤣.
Re: Grannies.
I've been with grandmothers. But I need them to *not* *look* like grannies. That's one thing about black girls / women. That "black don't crack" thing is for real, in many cases.
And that's not just a matter of mother and daughter each giving birth at 16 or some shit like that, either. Some of them are quite hot well into their 40s, maybe beyond.
Ozone sucked, but they do have some talent. I'm hoping YMMV, but stay away from Lilly and be ready to negotiate. Gina has been good in the past, but there's a third with some cannons. Also, for newer folks to the hobby, never ever pay up front. Only hand over tips after the service is provided. I got a little rusty and got hosed.
[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5452978]How did you create this one? 🤣.[/QUOTE]He didn't create his. **He replied to an existing post.
A couple of evenings ago I emailed a particular provider whom I found over on the them site. We made arrangements to meet and everything seemed fine until she asked for a deposit before I could come to her. Needless to say I was livid, and she insisted that is the policy. This particular provider communicates by email only, no phone or even text. I promptly cancelled the date and inform her that I was recommending a boycott of all those who demand deposits as well as those who insist on being paid via gift cards. Stores and even escort sites themselves are warning us against these tactics which are almost always scams. A few weeks ago I actually went to a provider's hotel and upon texting her that I had arrived she replied that I had to send a deposit before she would give me room number. Needless to say, date did not happen. Deposit are said to provide some protections against no-shows. But what the heck, I travelled to her so she wasn't out anything.
Have been lurking around on Yes Backpage as well as a couple of other sites since the original BP went down. None of those on that site ever pick up the phone so we can hear their voices. All they do is text, and expect you're going to immediately drop whatever you've got going and let them come to you or you to them. I prefer to do things strictly on cash basis but they all seem to treat cash as poison. Tried a couple of other sites but no luck there either. What they are obviously doing is taking advantage of those of us who can't afford high end escorts who charge a minimum of 300/ hr.
Too bad the original version of BP got reckless because it was much better. The ladies did things on cash basis and you got to talk to them on the phone so you knew they were legit. So far on the alternate forums I haven't found a single one who would take cash at time of meeting. It's either deposit, gift cards or nothing. I was burned by this gift card thing just a few weeks ago and vowed not to let it happen again. They demand we forward the serial numbers. For fear that we are going to scam them? The one time I did it the supposed provider said to come back to the hotel. But when I did the number had been disconnected and I never got to meet up.
I am proposing a boycott against those who employ these kinds of tactics. Are you all in?
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5453484]I promptly cancelled the date and inform her that I was recommending a boycott of all those who demand deposits as well as those who insist on being paid via gift cards.[/QUOTE]I couldn't care less why a woman claims to need a deposit or a gift card. If she has no-shows, that's her problem, not mine. I would never send money in advance no matter what, even if I've seen the provider 10 times before. There are plenty of reputable providers who don't require them.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5453484]A couple of evenings ago I emailed a particular provider whom I found over on the them site. We made arrangements to meet and everything seemed fine until she asked for a deposit before I could come to her. Needless to say I was livid, and she insisted that is the policy. This particular provider communicates by email only, no phone or even text. I promptly cancelled the date and inform her that I was recommending a boycott of all those who demand deposits as well as those who insist on being paid via gift cards. Stores and even escort sites themselves are warning us against these tactics which are almost always scams. A few weeks ago I actually went to a provider's hotel and upon texting her that I had arrived she replied that I had to send a deposit before she would give me room number. Needless to say, date did not happen. Deposit are said to provide some protections against no-shows. But what the heck, I travelled to her so she wasn't out anything.
Have been lurking around on Yes Backpage as well as a couple of other sites since the original BP went down. None of those on that site ever pick up the phone so we can hear their voices. All they do is text, and expect you're going to immediately drop whatever you've got going and let them come to you or you to them. I prefer to do things strictly on cash basis but they all seem to treat cash as poison. Tried a couple of other sites but no luck there either. What they are obviously doing is taking advantage of those of us who can't afford high end escorts who charge a minimum of 300/ hr.
Too bad the original version of BP got reckless because it was much better. The ladies did things on cash basis and you got to talk to them on the phone so you knew they were legit. So far on the alternate forums I haven't found a single one who would take cash at time of meeting. It's either deposit, gift cards or nothing. I was burned by this gift card thing just a few weeks ago and vowed not to let it happen again. They demand we forward the serial numbers. For fear that we are going to scam them? The one time I did it the supposed provider said to come back to the hotel. But when I did the number had been disconnected and I never got to meet up.
I am proposing a boycott against those who employ these kinds of tactics. Are you all in?[/QUOTE]If a girl doesn't accept Cash as payment I avoid. Gift cards, Cash apps, Pay Pal are ways to get your money to her for no sex. I will never pay Cash upfront ever again after my first and only rip off. She wants full payment in Cash upfront I walk out.
I pretty much am all AMP's but a few years back I dabbled in CL and BP. I guess I got lucky because I never had an issue with having to pay upfront. Now I too see a lot of ad's with cash app, zelle, or gift cards for payment which I would never do. Too many scammers out there. In the end we are the customer so they should be catering to that. Sadly even with AMP's its mostly money grubbers and begging for tips. Bottom line is your the customer and if your not comfortable, walk away.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5453484]A couple of evenings ago I emailed a particular provider whom I found over on the them site. We made arrangements to meet and everything seemed fine until she asked for a deposit before I could come to her. Needless to say I was livid, and she insisted that is the policy. This particular provider communicates by email only, no phone or even text. I promptly cancelled the date and inform her that I was recommending a boycott of all those who demand deposits as well as those who insist on being paid via gift cards. Stores and even escort sites themselves are warning us against these tactics which are almost always scams. A few weeks ago I actually went to a provider's hotel and upon texting her that I had arrived she replied that I had to send a deposit before she would give me room number. Needless to say, date did not happen. Deposit are said to provide some protections against no-shows. But what the heck, I travelled to her so she wasn't out anything.
Have been lurking around on Yes Backpage as well as a couple of other sites since the original BP went down. None of those on that site ever pick up the phone so we can hear their voices. All they do is text, and expect you're going to immediately drop whatever you've got going and let them come to you or you to them. I prefer to do things strictly on cash basis but they all seem to treat cash as poison. Tried a couple of other sites but no luck there either. What they are obviously doing is taking advantage of those of us who can't afford high end escorts who charge a minimum of 300/ hr.
Too bad the original version of BP got reckless because it was much better. The ladies did things on cash basis and you got to talk to them on the phone so you knew they were legit. So far on the alternate forums I haven't found a single one who would take cash at time of meeting. It's either deposit, gift cards or nothing. I was burned by this gift card thing just a few weeks ago and vowed not to let it happen again. They demand we forward the serial numbers. For fear that we are going to scam them? The one time I did it the supposed provider said to come back to the hotel. But when I did the number had been disconnected and I never got to meet up.
I am proposing a boycott against those who employ these kinds of tactics. Are you all in?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LuxiMudi;5453537]I couldn't care less why a woman claims to need a deposit or a gift card. If she has no-shows, that's her problem, not mine. I would never send money in advance no matter what, even if I've seen the provider 10 times before. There are plenty of reputable providers who don't require them.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RonM;5453565]If a girl doesn't accept Cash as payment I avoid. Gift cards, Cash apps, Pay Pal are ways to get your money to her for no sex. I will never pay Cash upfront ever again after my first and only rip off. She wants full payment in Cash upfront I walk out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LuxiMudi;5453537]I couldn't care less why a woman claims to need a deposit or a gift card. If she has no-shows, that's her problem, not mine. I would never send money in advance no matter what, even if I've seen the provider 10 times before. There are plenty of reputable providers who don't require them.[/QUOTE]This was always my logic. I've encountered ads that wanted deposits even in the BP days but I never sent one because I didn't do zelle, PayPal or cash app and I sure wasn't going to make an extra stop at a currency exchange. Just less hassle to deal with someone who accepts cash. But even before knowing for sure it was a scam I dealt with so many no shows with no deposits involved I figured it wasn't worth the risk. I've given my location enough to girls that ghosted me that the thought of giving them money up front is laughable. As said before you have NO recourse.
[QUOTE=SterlingPNess;5453174]Ozone sucked, but they do have some talent. I'm hoping YMMV, but stay away from Lilly and be ready to negotiate. Gina has been good in the past, but there's a third with some cannons. Also, for newer folks to the hobby, never ever pay up front. Only hand over tips after the service is provided. I got a little rusty and got hosed.[/QUOTE]I believe that is the one on Chicago and Western I was going to stop at last night but got there too near closing and decided I would be better served by going earlier in the day. Do they insist on upfront payment?
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5453722]I've given my location enough to girls that ghosted me that the thought of giving them money up front is laughable. As said before you have NO recourse.[/QUOTE]This would be the response. Look, I get it, you've been ghosted. But that's your problem with those guys. I've been ghosted, too. So maybe you should pay me a deposit. Or we call it even. Nobody pays a deposit and we both agree to show up at the time and place we agree upon.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5453484]
Have been lurking around on Yes Backpage as well as a couple of other sites since the original BP went down. None of those on that site ever pick up the phone so we can hear their voices. All they do is text, and expect you're going to immediately drop whatever you've got going and let them come to you or you to them. I prefer to do things strictly on cash basis but they all seem to treat cash as poison. Tried a couple of other sites but no luck there either. What they are obviously doing is taking advantage of those of us who can't afford high end escorts who charge a minimum of 300/ hr.
[/QUOTE]I once used yesbackpage, xbackpage and ibackpage. Seems every now and then I'd find a real poster, but I can't recall any success on those. Seems all the ads now are scams, fakes, catfishes or thieves.
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5453722]This was always my logic. I've encountered ads that wanted deposits even in the BP days but I never sent one because I didn't do zelle, PayPal or cash app and I sure wasn't going to make an extra stop at a currency exchange. Just less hassle to deal with someone who accepts cash. But even before knowing for sure it was a scam I dealt with so many no shows with no deposits involved I figured it wasn't worth the risk. I've given my location enough to girls that ghosted me that the thought of giving them money up front is laughable. As said before you have NO recourse.[/QUOTE]But unless they really felt in danger for any reason it makes no sense for them not to show as they are losing money. And yet they complain about us being no shows. Would love to see some thoughts as to why nearly no escorts communicate by phone. If we could hear their voices we would know they are real and not fakes.
This is something long overdue here. I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cas, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit. I have urged everyone to boycott those who want deposits and / or gift cards. Who might be some of the ones who don't operate this way?
[QUOTE=GeorgeStark;5452991]Re: Grannies.
I've been with grandmothers. But I need them to *not* *look* like grannies. That's one thing about black girls / women. That "black don't crack" thing is for real, in many cases.[/QUOTE]Most everybody would take a white granny any day of the week and twice on Sundays.
Another topic long overdue for discussion. Have you ever noticed how they seem to be making all the rules when in fact we should be making them since we are the ones hiring them. So many definitely possess a "my way or the highway" attitude. Not only that, but on many of the websites they specify that they only want to be contacted when ready to hookup and those who don't obey will be blocked. Who really would want to deal with such mean spirited actions? Most act like we are their boss when it should be the other way around.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5454858]I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cash, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit.[/QUOTE]Where are you looking? Stick to providers that have been reviewed here and / or on TER, or agency girls. All the Chicago agencies take cash and don't require deposits.
[QUOTE=LuxiMudi;5455250]Where are you looking? Stick to providers that have been reviewed here and / or on TER, or agency girls. All the Chicago agencies take cash and don't require deposits.[/QUOTE]I've almost never seen reviewed girls and I've never paid a deposit nor would I. But it's been a hugely trending thing for girls to ask for them. I mostly use listcrawlers and on there the rule of thumb is they only ask for a deposit for outcalls, but I avoid pitfalls, and if I was to do an outcall, which I have before, it's not with one that's asking for deposits. The games rough all around. Good time for any man to retire from this shit.
It's been awhile but I've reported in the past about providers who ask for addresses and don't show up. I had this happen recently but it was brought to my attention by another monger that it may be more that meets the eye. I had a provider ask for my address. I always give out a nearby one just in case the unknown happens. I told her the city I was in which is small and at that point she should know if I'm too far. After agreeing on details she asks or the address and goes completely ghost. I get a text recently stating they are offering incalls. The point of caution is that I wouldn't see a provider for the first time if she's aware where I live. Could turn into a robbery while your gone (they know where you are if you're with the girl) or even a blackmail scheme. Just think, would you visit a provider if she demanded to know your address before meeting at her location?
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5454299]But unless they really felt in danger for any reason it makes no sense for them not to show as they are losing money. And yet they complain about us being no shows. [/QUOTE]They could earn the full fee by showing up and providing the service, of course. But they can "earn" the deposit by doing nothing more than sending some texts. Depending on how you look at it, that's not exactly "losing money. ".
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5454299]Would love to see some thoughts as to why nearly no escorts communicate by phone. If we could hear their voices we would know they are real and not fakes.[/QUOTE]Texting is easy. Easier to keep multiple conversations going at any given time, and more importantly, in darn near any situation. Sitting on the bus / train within earshot of a dozen people? Sitting on the stoop cause it's hot outside and the neighbour might walk by at any moment? Probably not going to answer (or return) that call, but no one gives a second glance to someone typing away on their phone.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5454858]This is something long overdue here. I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cas, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit. I have urged everyone to boycott those who want deposits and / or gift cards. Who might be some of the ones who don't operate this way?[/QUOTE]I only do incalls. I've mainly used LC girls, I've had *one* ask for money up front to "hold" an appointment (I of course said no). I've never seen personally, or seen ads for, a girl that wouldn't take cash.
There was one that always wanted me (and everyone else) to send her a *picture* of the cash before she'd give her address.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5454858]This is something long overdue here. I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cas, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit. I have urged everyone to boycott those who want deposits and / or gift cards. Who might be some of the ones who don't operate this way?[/QUOTE]Never heard of anyone who wouldn't take cash. Gift card is an indication of a scam.
I think there a lot more scams and fakes now than there were 5 years ago.
[QUOTE=BeechNut79;5454858]This is something long overdue here. I have had no luck lately in finding an escort who will take cas, especially one who will do so without an advance deposit. I have urged everyone to boycott those who want deposits and / or gift cards. Who might be some of the ones who don't operate this way?[/QUOTE]Until mongers stop paying deposits, providers will continue to get away with this scam. I never have paid a deposit and never will.
Right on again!!
[QUOTE=GiveMeLiberty;5460953]Until mongers stop paying deposits, providers wnnill continue to get away with this scam. I never have paid a deposit and never will.[/QUOTE]
On the website the ladies list their services, like DATY, BBBJ, Anal, etc. , who knows what porn star experience would mean? PM me if you like.
[QUOTE=DeepSubman;5496862]On the website the ladies list their services, like DATY, BBBJ, Anal, etc. , who knows what porn star experience would mean? PM me if you like.[/QUOTE]It usually means they act wild, moaning loudly and such, not kissing and acting nice and demur (that is GFE). Of course, that also varies by the girl, too. I would not put much store by it.
[QUOTE=HenryA77;5496945]It usually means they act wild, moaning loudly and such, not kissing and acting nice and demur (that is GFE). Of course, that also varies by the girl, too. I would not put much store by it.[/QUOTE]Thought maybe it meant bareback, anyone ever asked a provider what it meant?
[QUOTE=DeepSubman;5496862]On the website the ladies list their services, like DATY, BBBJ, Anal, etc. , who knows what porn star experience would mean? PM me if you like.[/QUOTE]Depends on the girl. For some it means anal, for some it means BBFS, for some it literally means more porn-like (I. E. Throatfucking / hair-pulling / etc.).
Either ask her or (ideally) see what her previous reviews say.
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5459873]It's been awhile but I've reported in the past about providers who ask for addresses and don't show up. I had this happen recently but it was brought to my attention by another monger that it may be more that meets the eye. I had a provider ask for my address. I always give out a nearby one just in case the unknown happens. I told her the city I was in which is small and at that point she should know if I'm too far. After agreeing on details she asks or the address and goes completely ghost. I get a text recently stating they are offering incalls. The point of caution is that I wouldn't see a provider for the first time if she's aware where I live. Could turn into a robbery while your gone (they know where you are if you're with the girl) or even a blackmail scheme. Just think, would you visit a provider if she demanded to know your address before meeting at her location?[/QUOTE]You're saying providers out there are asking for your address when you're going to meet them? That doesn't make sense. Why even entertain that shit?
[QUOTE=DeepSubman;5496976]Thought maybe it meant bareback, anyone ever asked a provider what it meant?[/QUOTE]I was told it meant that they act like a porn star. I have found that still depends on the girl. What you doing over here Sub?
[QUOTE=DeepSubman;5496976]Thought maybe it meant bareback, anyone ever asked a provider what it meant?[/QUOTE]Sometimes it does, but not often. Most of the time it means nothing more than an attempt to drum up more interest, when it does mean something it's often acting like a porn star with all the dirty talk and sloppy BJs, sometimes (if there's an extra charge for it) it means Greek.
Bareback can take many forms. Sometimes PSE implies it, sometimes "fetish", sometimes "open minded", sometimes "ultra" or "ultimate" or "all natural", sometimes GFE+ and sometimes VIP. And sometimes they don't mention it at all in their ad.