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[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1204576]...I believe they are beautiful and if not for the addiction some lucky man would be hitting that ass every day. I wish I could. Respect is a two way street, give it get it.[/QUOTE]Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. And the one thing no one can deny is that the two Shannons are both beautiful.
Even in an "Abando," they are beautiful. It is easy to look good in nice conditions. But these two girls, even under the most absurd conditions, look good.
CookyJar
[QUOTE=Davidonecall;1204232]I once try to help a very nice WSW. Got an apartment, a bed, tv, and some clothing. Told her that its not a good idea to bring hobbies to her place. (It was a apartment that my brother owned and I told him that she needed help) She was there 2 weeks before she sold the tv and was trying to rent the place. When I went to ask her she was being arrested on driving a stolen car, driving without a license and some kind if drug charges. She had fallen down in to drugs even more. You can try to help but if they don't want help it will not work.[/QUOTE]I certainly have empathy for these girls and others like them. It has to make anyone with a heart sad to see. On the other hand, as Davidoncall's anecdote indicates, to have gotten yourself into such a pitiful situation likely means you have blown every opportunity you've been given, taken advantage of every helping hand offered, abused the trust and good will of every decent, caring friend and family member you have. No doubt there are exceptions but it's no accident these girls have fallen to such depths. The vast majority of girls I've met in this line of work are not bad people at heart. But addiction is a terrible thing and who can blame those close to them who at some point decide they just have to let them go or risk losing everything themselves in the process.
[QUOTE=Mike 80;1204979]...The vast majority of girls I've met in this line of work are not bad people at heart. But addiction is a terrible thing and who can blame those close to them who at some point decide they just have to let them go or risk losing everything themselves in the process.[/QUOTE]
You've talked to them. I've talked to them. We all have talked to them. For the most part they are all pretty nice people. As far as we know, they are not murders, child abusers or hard core criminals. They are drug abusers. Yes, they will try to get over if they can. But; so will your average Uses Car Salesman. For the most part these girls are average every day people who took a wrong turn somewhere along lifes path. Yes, they may have burned some bridges, who hasn't ?
CookyJar
[QUOTE=CookyJar;1204993]Yes, they may have burned some bridges, who hasn't ?[/QUOTE]Yes, but Cooky my friend there is a huge difference between the average chump like us who burns "some" bridges and hardcore addicts like the Shannons who appear to have burned EVERY bridge available to them and are now about as destitute and desperate as anyone in this country can be. I suppose people with a positive attitude can put a pretty face on anything. But living in an abando in Camden NJ and selling your ass for drugs - well, it doesn't get a whole lot lower than that.
[QUOTE=Mike 80;1205014]... living in an abando in Camden NJ and selling your ass for drugs - well, it doesn't get a whole lot lower than that.[/QUOTE]I agree.
I am not a bleeding heart. I like to think of myself as a realist. I try to keep an open mind and try never to judge. I believe my personal view point started when I was serving our glorious country. I made it and the guy standing next to me didn’t? Why? I grew-up in a drug/gang infested neighborhood. I got out. A lot of my friends and companions didn’t. Why? With hard work and sense of purpose my ventures prospered. Others worked just as hard and with just as much purpose, but failed. Why? There is no rhyme or reason to it. Live and let live.
If you look hard enough I am sure you’d be able to find a lot of people worst off than our Shannons.
After about 20 years of living in a rehab, a guy I went to school with died. Back in the 60s he ran a north Philly gang. A shot gun put him in a wheel chair. Having never had to live his life I cannot be sure but, living in an “abando,” might not have been so bad from his vantage point. There is nothing fair about any of it. There are some girls who don’t have “Abandos.” They don’t even get to share in the fruits of their labor. They suck and fuck for free, no drugs – just an asshole husband who kicks their ass daily. Who’s to say, who is better off, Amillia or the two Shannons? It’s all a matter of perspective.
A lot of these girls are trying to escape abusive past. All families aren’t always what we’d like to thinks they are. A lot of these girls come from backgrounds just a shocking as living in “Abandos.” I knew two young girls who had to fuck their uncle so that they and their mother would have a place to live. The mother drank herself to death, the oldest stayed with the uncle and the youngest got hooked on crack. That’s the way it is sometimes.
CookyJar
Becareful in camden, they just had a sting, busted like 100 people, from SW to mongers, drug dealers to users.
[QUOTE=CookyJar; 1205138]I agree.
I am not a bleeding heart. I like to think of myself as a realist. I try to keep an open mind and try never to judge. I believe my personal view point started when I was serving our glorious country. I made it and the guy standing next to me didn't? Why? I grew-up in a drug / gang infested neighborhood. I got out. A lot of my friends and companions didn't. Why? With hard work and sense of purpose my ventures prospered. Others worked just as hard and with just as much purpose, but failed. Why? There is no rhyme or reason to it. Live and let live.
If you look hard enough I am sure you'the be able to find a lot of people worst off than our Shannons.
After about 20 years of living in a rehab, a guy I went to school with died. Back in the 60s he ran a north Philly gang. A shot gun put him in a wheel chair. Having never had to live his life I cannot be sure but, living in an 'abando, ' might not have been so bad from his vantage point. There is nothing fair about any of it. There are some girls who don't have 'Abandos. ' They don't even get to share in the fruits of their labor. They suck and fuck for free, no drugs – just an asshole husband who kicks their ass daily. Who's to say, who is better off, Amillia or the two Shannons? It's all a matter of perspective.
A lot of these girls are trying to escape abusive past. All families aren't always what we'the like to thinks they are. A lot of these girls come from backgrounds just a shocking as living in 'Abandos. ' I knew two young girls who had to fuck their uncle so that they and their mother would have a place to live. The mother drank herself to death, the oldest stayed with the uncle and the youngest got hooked on crack. That's the way it is sometimes.
CookyJar[/QUOTE]Not really sure if I understand this cookiejar guy. In one breath your saying how bad you feel for these shanon girls and that the cards dealt to them (or any of the other people in your life you know are bad) and that their normal girls other than the fact that they sell themselves for drugs or whatever, but, in the past posts I've seen nude photos of them and I`the imagine you've fucked them. So I'm guessing its ok to take advantage of women in this situation if it fills your needs? Because we all need a 20. 00 fuck every once in awhile?
Personally I don't buy that bull, I came from a broken family, had every opportunity to do every drug on the planet, and just flat out be a bum. I was in beirut in 83, 1st Battalion 8th Marines. I seen shit that day that makes camden look like fucking disneyworld.
We all have choices and these girls made their choice. Quick easy money for basically doing one of the oldest jobs know to man, prostitution. Do I feel sorry for them, no. Believe it or not there are opportunities out there you just got to push yourself to find them, nothing is for free in this great country that we live in.
I own 2 businesses nowadays, I do very well for myself. Do I frequent the local AMP on occasion, hell yea I do, would I pick up some hooker in dirty socks and stick my dick in her for 20 bucks. Yea right I have alittle more self esteem. Thats not a thrill of the hunt. But thats just my opinion.
7:10 AM, Jun. 2,2011
CAMDEN — Camden police arrested 110 people last week in a crackdown on prostitutes and drug buyers in the city.
In undercover operations, police arrested 64 people who attempted to buy drugs from officers posing as dealers. Half of those people were from outside of the city.
Police also charged 37 women with prostitution offenses during an operation where officers posed as customers. Officers posing as prostitutes in turn arrested nine customers.
The operations were performed by the Camden Police Department Special Victims Unit and General Investigations Unit.
[QUOTE=JR Long; 1206626]7:10 AM, Jun. 2,2011
CAMDEN — Camden police arrested 110 people last week in a crackdown on prostitutes and drug buyers in the city.
In undercover operations, police arrested 64 people who attempted to buy drugs from officers posing as dealers. Half of those people were from outside of the city.
Police also charged 37 women with prostitution offenses during an operation where officers posed as customers. Officers posing as prostitutes in turn arrested nine customers.
The operations were performed by the Camden Police Department Special Victims Unit and General Investigations Unit. [/QUOTE]They must have been planning this for a bit. That's a lot of people that is going to be processed.
[QUOTE=JR Long; 1206626]7:10 AM, Jun. 2,2011
CAMDEN — Police also charged 37 women with prostitution offenses during an operation where officers posed as customers. Officers posing as prostitutes in turn arrested nine customers.
[/QUOTE]Well, the good news is, they only got 9 mongers. Either they weren't trying very hard for us, or we're a little better at following the rules than the SWs.
Incidentally, anyone here have an experience with one of these decoys?
[QUOTE=Gendjlee;1206899]Incidentally, anyone here have an experience with one of these decoys?[/QUOTE]Well, yeah, I did once some time ago but not in Camden. It was up in the Hunts Point area of the Bronx which was back then a well populated stroll. I drove up to lady about 11pm on one of these back streets that are in an industrial area by day and practically abandoned by night. Rolled down my window, chatted a few minutes to get a better look at her, NEVER said a word about wanting anything nor did I invite her into my car. I decided to pass. Drove away and within half a block the flashing lights of a squad car were in my rear view.
Pulled me over, officer reached into my car and turned off my engine."What were you talking to her about?" he demanded. My response was something like "Nothing interesting." He took my license and registration and went back to his car for a LONG time. I am reasonably certain that he went back to listen to the tape recording. When he realised he had nothing on me, he issued a ticket for obstructing traffic! (Mind you this was on an empty street in an abandoned industrial area.)
When they want you, they get you for something. I figure he was pissed that I had not gotten myself trapped and decided to make me regret having come into his neighborhood.
. Forth Ryte
I found this related article on the net. Looks like it's going to be a rough summer. Be careful!!!
[url]http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/local/item/20547-camden-police-get-tough-on-illegal-drug-buyers-and-prostitution[/url]
Camden police get tough on illegal drug buyers and prostitution.
May 31, 2011
In order to ensure a safe summer, the Camden Police Department has launched Operation "Crack Down," an array of operations intended to cut down drug distribution and prostitution schemes.
The operation has led to 110 arrests since last week.
'From barbecues to block parties to playing in the park, we want Camden residents to enjoy spending time outdoors with their family and friends during the summer months, ' Mayor Dana L. Redd said in a press release.
The operation targets illegal drug buyers who fuel the drug trade in Camden. More than 60 of these buyers have been arrested so far, and about half of them are based in the suburbs.
These drugs operations require police to pose as drug dealers so that drug buyers will reveal themselves. Police also went undercover soliciting prostitutes, leading to 37 arrests.
Penalties under Operation Crack Down include fines of up to $1, 000, six months in jail and a six-month loss of license.
[QUOTE=JR Long; 1207380]In order to ensure a safe summer, the Camden Police Department has launched Operation "Crack Down," an array of operations intended to cut down drug distribution and prostitution schemes.
The operation has led to 110 arrests since last week.
[/QUOTE]Gee, with all the cuts to the police going on, it doesn't seem like Camden should have the resources for this. Maybe Christie needs to take a closer look at Camden and perform a few cuts, if the cops there have free time for bullshit like this.
[QUOTE=Forth Ryte; 1207078]Well, yeah, I did once some time ago but not in Camden. It was up in the Hunts Point area of the Bronx which was back then a well populated stroll. I drove up to lady about 11pm on one of these back streets that are in an industrial area by day and practically abandoned by night. Rolled down my window, chatted a few minutes to get a better look at her, NEVER said a word about wanting anything nor did I invite her into my car. I decided to pass. Drove away and within half a block the flashing lights of a squad car were in my rear view.
Pulled me over, officer reached into my car and turned off my engine."What were you talking to her about?" he demanded. My response was something like "Nothing interesting." He took my license and registration and went back to his car for a LONG time. I am reasonably certain that he went back to listen to the tape recording. When he realised he had nothing on me, he issued a ticket for obstructing traffic! (Mind you this was on an empty street in an abandoned industrial area.)
When they want you, they get you for something. I figure he was pissed that I had not gotten myself trapped and decided to make me regret having come into his neighborhood.
. Forth Ryte[/QUOTE]That good that you did not say a word. If they wanted they could come up with thing like turn lane (even on one lane) turning signal, you get the idea. You know because of the cut back they want to get the easy $$$$ for the find. Let be safe and follow the hobbies rule.
Hate to cut in with the discussion you guys are having, but I finally got ripped off tonight, and wanted to share.
Was cruising broadway around 12am tonight, and spotted this hispanic girl named Sonya (sp) and decided to pull over and give her a try.
We found a spot and right before she was going to do the deed, she asks if I have a condom. Now every time I've been down here which is not many, the girl always had a condom available for me. So I told her "No I don't have one", and she told me we had to go get one."ok no problem" I said.
Now "dummy me" already handed her the money, and we pull up to this Chinese place on broadway (LOL) and she runs across the street and into the store. Now she left her jacket in my truck, so I knew she was coming back, and after 2 minutes she did come back to my vehicle with a condom. Now she probably had the condom in her pocket the entire time, but thought it was probably a good ploy to throw me off by telling me she didn't have one.
So once she gets back in. Now she needs a drink. LOL. So she tells me the liquor store is about to close and we are not going to make it in time. So she has me pull down this one street where here friend lives so she can get a drink, and by this time, I just wanted this nutjob out of my vehicle.
So she gets out, and this time she takes her jacket with her, and she tells me she will be right back. I waited less than 3 minutes for her, and off I went.
I chalked this one up as a donation to society. I didn't ask for my money back the first time she got back in the truck cause I didn't want an argument, and I didn't want to get stabbed. I am a licensed firearms owner, and I can't carry my firearm for protection in Jersey, so it cost me $35. 00 in loss funds to get rid of her.
After that I drove around for a few more minutes and spotted a nice looking black girl, and she did the right thing and gave me what I asked for. Totally made me forget about my bad experience a few minutes before, and she did tell me Sonya has a bad name on the streets.
So yea. I got another quick lesson on streets smarts tonight.
Avoid this thief at all costs.