Rants Raves and Stupid Shit in Seattle.

[QUOTE=PoonHound1969;6793556]What about her?[/QUOTE]Changed her name that's all. Fka = formerly known as. I added it here to help with future search results in case some one tries searching the new name and nothing comes up. They can then see the old name and search that. I don't know what other thread to place it in so I place it in this one, all strictly for informational purposes. I just haven't felt the need to start a new thread for this type of thing, although it may not be such a bad idea.

[QUOTE=DickIncider12;6793475]Your list has no hot young white girls or thin model types you pay what you get for I may do some on list for free but most likely not LOL.[/QUOTE]I was about to say, where my white girls atlol I've done this with them as well, but I don't come on here just to say, I've banged all these girl for x amount of money and then give zero info. Cool story bro, useless info just trying to brag I guess. Next.

[QUOTE=SeattleStiff;6793135]How are you connecting with these students?

I'd like to become bored, too.[/QUOTE]Same place where everyone else is looking. There is no secret stash of students and young professionals. No Skull & Bones hideout. When people complain about the GPS and the $900 ppm girls what is really happening is you're paying the "creepy tax" or you got no game. Practice your game and learn that "non-pro" really means "non-pro" and the prices will come down for you. The only time the well dried up was during Covid when every girl disappeared off the sites.

I think the bigger problem is the infestation of pros and pic sellers where it use to be just true college girls and young professionals. I pass on every girl with OF like glamor shots, who immediately text me their number or tell me in the first message let's meet at a hotel.

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;6795307]Practice your game and learn that "non-pro" really means "non-pro" and the prices will come down for you. [/QUOTE][BLUE]First, non pro means you don't pay them money, AT ALL. If your idea of game includes reaching for a wallet then it's not game. They are commercial sex workers and you are a john, end of fucking story. Non pro means not professional, not paid.

Second to the rest of you, he's a fucking troll. Stop responding to his posts.

A2[/BLUE]

I hate what the other board has become. White knights explaining away pimps, fake reviews, and putting providers on a pedestal. Goddamn Simps!

Providers do not care about you. Stop trying to be their friend!

You only exist to providers as a paycheck and the for the time that you paid. Most of the time they would rather you left early. Guarantee none of them are letting you stay longer.

Bringing gifts or white knighting on the board isn't going to get you better service! Providers barely remember Johns and are trying to make as much money / see as many appointments as they can. They're not going to remember your life story.

Providers don't care about you. If you get in an accident, lose your job, or have something shitty happen in your life, they don't care.

Get in, get off, maybe get off again, and get out!

You see someone doing this shit. Refer them here. Because they need to remember this.

Strippers complaining the club is slow when they want 500 for a 15 minute CBJ, because and there isn't room fee.

Theses twats need to learn the market. BBBJ is 150 for. Qv with a escort at MOST!

I don't think we want the Washington State Liquor and Cannabis Board in our strip clubs. The enforcement officers are complete shit heads. They hate fun. I suspect the things that go on in our strip clubs will not be tolerated by their enforcement officers. If they can figure out a way to prevent people from having fun, they will do it. They will try and sell their enforcement as a safety measure. Their enforcement officers love to ruin someone's good time.

[QUOTE=PacificoWang;6798856]I don't think we want the Washington State Liquor and Cannabis Board in our strip clubs. The enforcement officers are complete shit heads. They hate fun. I suspect the things that go on in our strip clubs will not be tolerated by their enforcement officers. If they can figure out a way to prevent people from having fun, they will do it. They will try and sell their enforcement as a safety measure. Their enforcement officers love to ruin someone's good time.[/QUOTE]Fuck that stay away easy to get alcohol in the club and mix it with a coke or sprite.

[QUOTE=DickIncider12;6798869]Fuck that stay away easy to get alcohol in the club and mix it with a coke or sprite.[/QUOTE]Just ask one of the dancers, they always have booze with them. A lot of them are drunk, stoned or high on blow while they are working.

[QUOTE=PacificoWang;6798856]I don't think we want the Washington State Liquor and Cannabis Board in our strip clubs. The enforcement officers are complete shit heads. They hate fun. I suspect the things that go on in our strip clubs will not be tolerated by their enforcement officers. If they can figure out a way to prevent people from having fun, they will do it. They will try and sell their enforcement as a safety measure. Their enforcement officers love to ruin someone's good time.[/QUOTE]It's been a longggg time since I was last in Portland, but my recollection was that strip clubs that served alcohol didn't allow lap dances, but juice bars (non-alcohol clubs) allowed it. Not sure if something like that will happen here.

[QUOTE=Merovingian2;6793561]The 3 somes are very real. It alleviates my boredom by taking it to the next level. My occasional wingmen I met here after all.

I suppose if you redefine "creepy" sure. But I call it be normal and treat non-pro girls as "non-pro". This means if they tell you "I am sore" after jackhammering away for 45 min that you stop versus complain "well I paid my $$ so take it till I'm done". Or start your introduction to them with a list of demands or "how much to do X?" Or bring your collection of sex toys to the first hotel meet up. I like sugar sites over say Tinder for one simple reason. You can find normal girls predisposed to trading a few dollars for loads of fun with no need to invest hours wining and dining them. A 30-45 min conversation over coffee and they're good to go. IF you act normal.

So yeah I'm laying out my "method" here to help those who think you either have to pay $900 or accept 45 yo grandmas or go down the pro path. Over the last 5 years I've bagged over 100 19-28 yo off sugar sites. Many students or early professionals making excellent money. For a little over $100/ pop on average. Many of whom later pop up in my Tinder or even LinkedIn feeds using the same pictures they used on the sugar sites.

Good hunting and good luck.[/QUOTE]I was giving you shit, but not seriously. My only concern is competition. I wouldn't call them UTR girls, but I know the types that you're talking about. Pointing them out to hobbyists is just going to make it more difficult and, most likely, scare them off. I found one who agreed to just gifts and dates after a month because I treated her well.

The truth is 10-15 years ago the kind of women you have been hooking up with wouldn't have thought about asking for money. You could get them just with non-creepy charm and some basic manners, like paying for dinner LOL.

But this is also an opportunity to rant about the sugar scene and how it's completely changed dating in general. Let's be honest, Seeking is now mostly women (and I mean the real ones, not scams) trying out escorting. Dating apps have lots of women who say they're looking for a SD. And it's a mess. At least on seeking I know they understand how it works, but outside of that you can get a lot further on your game. It shouldn't be called sugar dating, it should be called soft-escorting.

Women of every age group on dating apps also have a profile on seeking, it's nuts. I recently had a 39 yo mother of 2 text me asking to be her SD. It's like that now. It is normalized to the point that in another ten years most dating will involve some type of transactional incentive. I mean, you already have to pay to subscribe to dating apps, why shouldn't the women get a cut since the apps wouldn't have customers without them.

[QUOTE=Mamouna;6803472]
...
But this is also an opportunity to rant about the sugar scene and how it's completely changed dating in general. Let's be honest, Seeking is now mostly women (and I mean the real ones, not scams) trying out escorting. Dating apps have lots of women who say they're looking for a SD. And it's a mess. At least on seeking I know they understand how it works, but outside of that you can get a lot further on your game. It shouldn't be called sugar dating, it should be called soft-escorting.
...
[/QUOTE]Yeah, "soft escorting" is probably a good way to describe it.

One advantage a girl has on a sugar site is that they can be very choosy about which guys they see, and most of them don't end up seeing very many guys at all. I'd bet the "average" is pretty close to one guy, in fact. That's because for the vast majority of ladies this isn't very easy money and they just don't have what it takes to fuck for money. There are also a lot of girls who chicken out and never meet any guys from those sites.

There is a tiny minority where being paid to smash is a big kink of theirs and they seriously get off on the whole thing.

When I say "they just don't have what it takes", well, obviously they have a mouth and a snatch and an ass and those probably work just fine. Just that a lot of ladies find the whole thing too weird and too awkward and can't ever get comfortable taking a dick from a guy they literally just met. I've had more than one first meetup where the baby was so obviously uncomfortable that I had to cancel the whole thing.

[QUOTE=BackInSea;6799466]It's been a longggg time since I was last in Portland, but my recollection was that strip clubs that served alcohol didn't allow lap dances, but juice bars (non-alcohol clubs) allowed it. Not sure if something like that will happen here.[/QUOTE]Thus is not accurate. All clubs in Portland have lap dances. Some completely suck (air dances, or no mutual touching). Some are real lap dances (mutual touching but not the kitty, maybe more with the right girl). Some are almost Seattle style (anything goes, with the right girl).

From my understanding TNA requires providers to issue I'd when they register to make sure they're over 18.

I really wish the site would automatically update birthdays.

So many of them are way older than their profile age.

[QUOTE=Darce;6807132]I really wish the site would automatically update birthdays. So many of them are way older than their profile age.[/QUOTE]Those are really two separate issues. There are three ages associated with a profile:

1) The birth date one enters when one signs up for an account. This appears in the About Me page, but the site privacy settings let you hide it entirely, display month-day, or years old.

2) A text field in the provider profile that can automatically appear in the ad header. In [I]profile_example_1.png[/I], the profile is using the free-form text in her ads, but the profile page shows "both" ages. She may simply be unaware.

3) The age specified within the ad copy as free-form text. In [I]profile_ad_copy.png[/I] Provider claims to be "27 years old" in her ad, but hadn't updated the free-form text box. Profile (not shown) has DoB hidden. I though this person might be an agency because they change names every time the profile becomes active.

Here's a rare example profile where these are congruent: [URL]https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?123751-AmazingInara[/URL].

Many of the Thai providers reduce their age in the freeform box by 10-20 years. Based on my small sample size: 29 is really 35-45.30 is really 40-50.35 is really 45-55.38 is really 50+.

I appreciate the ladies that fill in "99" for their age.