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[QUOTE=Westttwon;5916000]I went back to 440 last week. Second time in about a month or so and still have yet to be followed by a guy back to my car. What time is this guy usually there? I tend to go to 440 between 1-3 pm ish.[/QUOTE]I want to see how tough this guy to follow someone out into their car.
[QUOTE=JetStream1;5915720]Its easy. Get a legit massage in one place then go to a Korean spa and get body wash, 10 minute "lite" massage, with some fully nude FS with a hot 30 year old. It doesn't really make sense for a girl who is hot and selling big time extras to invest in the time to become a real masseuse. This question is a bit like asking, where can I find a lawyer who is also a gourmet cook, so I can get my contract looked at, and be served some lobster scampi at the same time? Just go the lawyer, then go to the restaurant and get the best of both.
Someone messaged me not too long ago, about going to a specific AMP, and getting one hour with a hot girl who does lousy hand yanks, and then a 2nd hour with a girl who has less massage skill but plenty of other skills. So you just book two hours in the same place, and get what each is offering.[/QUOTE]So true, providers would rather lay there and let you do all the work than massage you. Your best bet is to find a provider from Thailand. They usually had massage training because it was part of the service. Currently there is Thai Bella working at a K-org in OC. She is beautiful and can do a legit massage.
[QUOTE=JetStream1;5916864]Sure Thailand or the Philippines. The prices are right and the services are good. You might also consider Amsterdam or Frankfurt non-stop round trip $600 -1200. For 50 EU, you get the whole enchilada FS full nudity obj, etc. Although Amsterdam is famous, more generally Germany seems to be the best place to go for this kind of tourism. For example, as you pull into Cologne by train, you pass one of the largest brothels in EU, a 5 story building with nothing but independent girls. But each German city seems to have slightly different set up. Some girls go lower than 50 eu. I had a Bulgarian woman for 25, and even I felt it was too cheap and just gave her 35 eu. So 10 days at 60 eu a night hotel, food, and two girls a day at 50 + 50 eu. So maybe $2 k-3 k for 10 days and 20 girls FS. Plus some memorable selfies and excellent bratwurst and beer. But many other places are plagued by "morality" - which is simply an artificial supply constraint for a commodity that is needed for society.[/QUOTE]There used to be several spots in Germany, called AYCF, all you can fuck, with door fee and 5-7 girls inside, you could bang all of them. With 50 euro entrance. Dunno if they still open after covid. Ca had to legalize prostitution instead of freakin weed. With weed you only get bunch of high bummers who eventually get addicted to other drugs. With prostitution, less psychos, more satisfied people and police who would really do their job, not chase some John for bs crimes.
[QUOTE=NailBoiz1;5916970]Totally agree! But it will only work if everyone is on board. There is too many guys that will pay the increased prices since they really don't like to haggle.[/QUOTE]I forgot another aspect of these negotiations. When the girl is give you the slow hand to make you think with your little head instead of your big head, you never agree to the higher tip amount absolutely. You say "Ok, sure I am willing to pay $60 (instead of my regular $40) if I am totally satisfied with what you provide". Then when she refuses access, gives you 10,000 rpm piston motion, and shorts you on your time, then those will detract from the financial compensation. Every time they ask for money before service, there must be some element of conditionality. This should motivate the worker to make sure you are happy, so you can make her happy with that larger tip.
[QUOTE=BigBoDonk;5917175]There used to be several spots in Germany, called AYCF, all you can fuck, with door fee and 5-7 girls inside, you could bang all of them. With 50 euro entrance. Dunno if they still open after covid. Ca had to legalize prostitution instead of freakin weed. With weed you only get bunch of high bummers who eventually get addicted to other drugs. With prostitution, less psychos, more satisfied people and police who would really do their job, not chase some John for bs crimes.[/QUOTE]I read about some clubs like that on the outskirts of Frankfurt. Girls, food, etc. You just hang out for the day eating and fucking. Sounds good to me. Not only has German society not fallen apart, they are the top economy in EU.
They legalized hooking in Nevada but its expensive and not very appealing. Legalized dope seems to be corporatized too. I think it would be enough to de-criminalze sexual acts exchanged for money. Buying a girl a drink or dinner and movie with the intent of sex is legal. A woman who didn't work but then on divorcing gets alimony and half your house is legal. Its also legal for girls to go to dating sites, and agree to meet a different man every night, who will buy them dinner, and then give nothing in return. So what's so bad about a guy who wants to pay, a girl who wants to get paid? The ones most offended by WGs are other women who don't want to be undercut.
Massage in LF by Patsys across the street off of Jeronimo. There's a sonic foods in this plaza.
AMP was ok, hot girls but crappy BJ. Mid 30's Asian gal.
Bio Luna. Good sucky fucky, long time they love you, not cheap. Hot hot Japanese gal can sure suck a mean dick and ride the Kong for about a good 25 min. Total was $260.
Oc beauty bar in Fountain Valley off of Brookhurst. But I hear they are mobilizing in every town make appointment.
Crappy Nuru w dirty towels. That place is aka Palms and Oasis. Lots of Pigs in the parking lot waiting to bust the next dumbass coming here.
Sara Thai had lady Boys. Gross. The Thai girls actual girls can suck a good cock. I made sure they didn't have a cock under her skirt lmao.
1) Bio Luna in Lake Forest off of Aspan Area. By a bunch of auto shops. Believe it or not, Goto place for a good time for sure. The Japanese hottie Sucks Dick and knows how to treat my Cock as well as any ***** can these days. $260. Place ain't for old timers with no $$. She's about early twenties if that. Don't really care or want any Dramarama from people that don't get and the people that actually gets laid here.
2) Diamond Massage in Mission Viejo, been hearing they offered FS, that was a big No. Anybody else have luck in here?
3) Zen Therapy down the street did, but the girl was ok, saggy tits for a girl that was supposedly 31. Kinda of a big ass but her jerk off skill was better than her cock sucking one for sure.
4) LF 109 was horrible this time. Had a white girl in her 30's with big tits but bad attitude. Seem like she didn't want to work. Half ass nuru job. Then rushed the jerk off session.
Irvine bad better ones IMO. Seems like others are hating in here. Free intel who cares?
Look at the Bedpage ads and lots of girls for cheap if that's what you looking for. But some quality ones too. Looks more and more like a pissing contest in here. There are apartment and hotel ones too. Like Best Western inn in Santa Ana. You can just Goto the parking lot and roam rooms and knock on the do not disturb rooms and 1 out or 2 will answer the door and start negotiating with you for a BJ or FS package. Then there is 440, a line of brothels. Just be careful of Honey spa, bait and switch with grump gilf. Orchid spa just legit massage in CM.
This little pretty thang, Thai girl with small waist and big titties. Negotiated $160 before I arrrived at her Hotel. Greeted me in her small panties and top off. Grabbed me by the balls and asked for her donation. Then she proceeded to suck me bareback and teased my head with her sweet tongue. Found her here. [URL]https://nightfunpages.com/gfe-asian-girl-here-to-serve-you/[/URL].
If you want to indulge in spicy Latina that directs you to fuck, this Hot hot Girl in her early 30's is the one for you. A friend told me about her so I decided to venture out. Her apartment is by 4XX Fairview in Cm. Next to the Arco gas station. Nice place. She opens the door gives you a water and leads you to her third floor. Tells you to take off your clothes. Starts with a back massage and she starts stripping and rubs her tits on your back and plays with your crack. Then proceeds to swallow my cock in her mouth. Then flips me over and goes all country on my balls and cock like a country buffet.
[QUOTE=JetStream1;5917409]I read about some clubs like that on the outskirts of Frankfurt. Girls, food, etc. You just hang out for the day eating and fucking. Sounds good to me. Not only has German society not fallen apart, they are the top economy in EU.
They legalized hooking in Nevada but its expensive and not very appealing. Legalized dope seems to be corporatized too. I think it would be enough to de-criminalze sexual acts exchanged for money. Buying a girl a drink or dinner and movie with the intent of sex is legal. A woman who didn't work but then on divorcing gets alimony and half your house is legal. Its also legal for girls to go to dating sites, and agree to meet a different man every night, who will buy them dinner, and then give nothing in return. So what's so bad about a guy who wants to pay, a girl who wants to get paid? The ones most offended by WGs are other women who don't want to be undercut.[/QUOTE]Frankfurt has FKK Clubs, which in German translates to nudist clubs. Basically you pay an entry fee and everyone runs around naked, including all the girls and all the mongers. There's food and drink which is included. Fucking isn't free. You pay for each turn. You wear a wristband that they mark your turns on so they can settle up when you check out. You can stay as long as you want and have the option of fucking on a couch right in full view of everyone else, or in a private room, our outside on the lawn, or basically wherever the hell you want. It's quite a trip, and cheaper than anything like that would cost around here even if it was possible, and that's considering the added cost of travel.
This is OC though and unless you're single or can make up an excuse to travel to Germany for a few days without your wife, you're pretty much stuck with what we have around here.
There's always TJ. Lots of fun to be had down there.
[QUOTE=Grimmy23;5918592]This is OC though and unless you're single or can make up an excuse to travel to Germany for a few days without your wife, you're pretty much stuck with what we have around here.
There's always TJ. Lots of fun to be had down there.[/QUOTE]This is a challenge but just getting to the EU will suffice. You can get from Paris to the German border in 2 hours via TGV, and London another 2. 5 Horus. Belgium, Holland Czech Republic, Switzerland and Austria all border Germany too. There are sleeper trains from Italy to Germany too. So just find a conference or event anywhere there.
Regarding TJ. I have mixed experiences over the years, and got increasingly nervous just being there with all the crime. My answer is more homework and research on Korean providers locally.
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This outfit has been in my rotation an out of the blue one of the gals, a MILF named Summer sensed that I might want to fuck her in the ass. She offered and I agreed. Its kind of a rare thing, wish more girl would allow it. Will probably return for round 2.[/QUOTE]I too visited Summer recently but did not get to Greece. Based on my experience, a trip to Greece is possible for those with smaller vessels. Apparently my vessel was too broad in the beam to navigate the narrow channel. Good BBBJ and cfs though. Wanted 200, settle on 120. Also, got the 20 "first-time" discount. Great tits, a little belly, nice round ass. She got tired of me pounding her so she finished me BBBJ with BLS and RIM. While I was pounding her in standing K9 another girl opened the door and checked us out. I asked afterward what she was doing. Summer told me "she just wanted to watch you". LOL. This place is pretty wild!
There was a young innocent looking one on the lineup that I may hit up on my next visit. Chantel? Anyone try?
HH69.
[QUOTE=MoonKnight22;5918439]1) Bio Luna in Lake Forest off of Aspan Area. By a bunch of auto shops. Believe it or not, Goto place for a good time for sure. The Japanese hottie Sucks Dick and knows how to treat my Cock as well as any ***** can these days. $260. Place ain't for old timers with no $$. She's about early twenties if that. Don't really care or want any Dramarama from people that don't get and the people that actually gets laid here.
[/QUOTE]BBFS at least? That rate is closing in on some of the k houses.
OK I heard all the issues now look at the girls point of you our massage now a nice hand job maybe get your cock sucked good Now you throw down a $40 tip to say you don't have anymore money OK let's say next customer comes in she gets her $80 for sucking his cock good he leaves she comes to find out that he went in her purse and took his 80 bucks back up so I think the inflation go to these motherfuckers that steal and cheat these girls and then there's another asswipe that ended up bruising one of the girls because she didn't want to have sex with Him And I seen his picture and it's like dude take a fucking shower and lose some weight fucking slob so I think that's where a lot of the inflation goes.
[QUOTE=Slammer6008;5919289]OK I heard all the issues now look at the girls point of you our massage now a nice hand job maybe get your cock sucked good Now you throw down a $40 tip to say you don't have anymore money OK let's say next customer comes in she gets her $80 for sucking his cock good he leaves she comes to find out that he went in her purse and took his 80 bucks back up so I think the inflation go to these motherfuckers that steal and cheat these girls and then there's another asswipe that ended up bruising one of the girls because she didn't want to have sex with Him And I seen his picture and it's like dude take a fucking shower and lose some weight fucking slob so I think that's where a lot of the inflation goes.[/QUOTE]Ha ha don't text and drive Bottom line is I still love this hobby but you monger's man you guys need to clean it up a little bit there's so many great spots I've been to but I don't you guys to fuck it up on me.