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Cruisin a few times throughout the day.
I am used to asking if someone wants a ride, driving away from the area, then discussing the menu. Most seem to want to negotiate before getting in. Is this standard practice here? I just leave before responding to that. Don't know if it's a newbie mistake.
I agree, would love a list.
[QUOTE=Joesun1;5485856]Can I ask what list or records are you referring to?[/QUOTE].
This is terrible someone should do a freedom of information act request to find out who the offending providers are who are HIV positive and post them to avoid same.
[QUOTE=BassLake;5485254]A friend of mine has access to county and city providers who have been arrested in the last few years up until today. Just 10 days ago, one SW and casino gal have been working the last few months with aids. Both are WSW in their 20;s. There have been 8 more in the last 2 years. Also STD's have been rising. I personally cannot tell the difference between CBJ and bbj, or between FS covered, or fsbare. Take it easy out there, guys and avoid visits to the clinic. Most of the 400 to 1000 dollar escorts require a cover. Many of the SW gals and casino gals don't care if you want a cover or not. It is easy to keep one in your billfold. One, you don't get the occasional gal who sends you back to the store for one. Two, you can avoid a trip to the clinic. To keep from these agency scammer, also, do not ever give them your room number or exact address when you tex them. Meet them in the lobby, if they won't, tell them to go to hell. Stay safe out there guys.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=NoHopeForMe;5486557]Cruisin a few times throughout the day.
I am used to asking if someone wants a ride, driving away from the area, then discussing the menu. Most seem to want to negotiate before getting in. Is this standard practice here? I just leave before responding to that. Don't know if it's a newbie mistake.[/QUOTE]With 107 posts I assume your comment / question about "Newbie mistake" indicates you're new to SW's?
NO, it is NOT a mistake. You are doing it Exactly Right!! Keep it up.
BBFS has always been risky. Contracting HIV from BBFS is rare but it still happen occasionally.
[QUOTE=BassLake;5485254]A friend of mine has access to county and city providers who have been arrested in the last few years up until today. Just 10 days ago, one SW and casino gal have been working the last few months with aids. Both are WSW in their 20;s. There have been 8 more in the last 2 years. Also STD's have been rising. I personally cannot tell the difference between CBJ and bbj, or between FS covered, or fsbare. Take it easy out there, guys and avoid visits to the clinic. Most of the 400 to 1000 dollar escorts require a cover. Many of the SW gals and casino gals don't care if you want a cover or not. It is easy to keep one in your billfold. One, you don't get the occasional gal who sends you back to the store for one. Two, you can avoid a trip to the clinic. To keep from these agency scammer, also, do not ever give them your room number or exact address when you tex them. Meet them in the lobby, if they won't, tell them to go to hell. Stay safe out there guys.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5487111]BBFS has always been risky. Contracting HIV from BBFS is rare but it still happen occasionally.[/QUOTE]Do you have stats on this I am interested to see them bc I know going bare is risky but if you're right I would like to know about that.
[QUOTE=MNeiman;5487094]With 107 posts I assume your comment / question about "Newbie mistake" indicates you're new to SW's?
NO, it is NOT a mistake. You are doing it Exactly Right!! Keep it up.[/QUOTE]No, just new to Tropicana SWs. Thanks for the affirmation. I love hobbying but risk a lot doing it. Just have yet to see one hop into a car without chatting.
[QUOTE=TomTheMan;5480329]Cruised BH today. It's been a minute since I have been in that side of town so figured I would take the stroll it was around 9:30 am and didn't see any SW.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Dac007;5480426]Well even in its heyday, there wasn't much on BH early in the AM, at least not when the sun is up.[/QUOTE]Dunno, did my last cruise today and saw at least 6. I've attached a pic of 3 that gave me the wave once eye contact was made (I still dunno how to tell between slutty tourists and SWs so I just only care if I get the wave).
Passed on one (not pic'd) who was mu style. WSW black hair tight jeans with a solid dumper. Looped and asked for a ride, she got in and we went to a spot. Negotiated. 6 fo BBBJ and I think she sucked my asshole through it. Like her next hit was literally in my ass. Offered to take me to pop #2 but I was too sensitive and only had 80 on me. Kerry she said her name was. She'll be out all day she said. Has a room at a weekly mid BH.
I know I am a tourist, but I'd def say BH is worth the look. Went up past Charlston and saw my kind of trash at the gas station across from the Uhaul yesterday but when she lifted her leg to get in the suv, I caught a wif and saw a bird fall out of the sky so luckily I had a sudden call for work. Whew.
Forgot pics.
[QUOTE=NoHopeForMe;5487497]No, just new to Tropicana SWs. Thanks for the affirmation. I love hobbying but risk a lot doing it. Just have yet to see one hop into a car without chatting.
Dunno, did my last cruise today and saw at least 6. I've attached a pic of 3 that gave me the wave once eye contact was made (I still dunno how to tell between slutty tourists and SWs so I just only care if I get the wave).
Passed on one (not pic'd) who was mu style. WSW black hair tight jeans with a solid dumper. Looped and asked for a ride, she got in and we went to a spot. Negotiated. 6 fo BBBJ and I think she sucked my asshole through it. Like her next hit was literally in my ass. Offered to take me to pop #2 but I was too sensitive and only had 80 on me. Kerry she said her name was. She'll be out all day she said. Has a room at a weekly mid BH.
I know I am a tourist, but I'd def say BH is worth the look. Went up past Charlston and saw my kind of trash at the gas station across from the Uhaul yesterday but when she lifted her leg to get in the suv, I caught a wif and saw a bird fall out of the sky so luckily I had a sudden call for work. Whew.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=MongerSeeker;5487111]BBFS has always been risky. Contracting HIV from BBFS is rare but it still happen occasionally.[/QUOTE]Are you saying (which I think you are since it's literally exactly what you said) that it's unlikely that one would catch something having sex with a woman without a condom?. Why did I always think it was the exact opposite of what you are saying? If this is true, it would literally change my entire life.
[QUOTE=ScrewYouBuddy;5488121]Are you saying (which I think you are since it's literally exactly what you said) that it's unlikely that one would catch something having sex with a woman without a condom?. Why did I always think it was the exact opposite of what you are saying? If this is true, it would literally change my entire life.[/QUOTE]Please tell me you guys aren't serious about this.
[QUOTE=NoHopeForMe;5487765]Forgot pics.[/QUOTE]Still learning how to upload.
[QUOTE=Funky40;5486661]I agree, would love a list.
.[/QUOTE]My friend works in records in Nevada law enforcement records. I dare not expose him, for risk of his job. He has given me a few stats from time to time on misdemeanor arrest from the daily records that he reviews from NDOC, CCDC, LV City, NC. If you want antything more specific, such as names and offenses that are prostitute related, you might PM me is you are a senior member. Oh, and the 3 std clinics I've read about, handle daily, many cases of the Big Three, gonorrhea, sylphlis, and clamidia, so bareback is risky. A condom beats a clinic visit. An HIV case is rate, but the BigThree are common.
[QUOTE=BassLake;5490506]My friend works in records in Nevada law enforcement records. I dare not expose him, for risk of his job. He has given me a few stats from time to time on misdemeanor arrest from the daily records that he reviews from NDOC, CCDC, LV City, NC. If you want antything more specific, such as names and offenses that are prostitute related, you might PM me is you are a senior member. Oh, and the 3 std clinics I've read about, handle daily, many cases of the Big Three, gonorrhea, sylphlis, and clamidia, so bareback is risky. A condom beats a clinic visit. An HIV case is rate, but the BigThree are common.[/QUOTE]We we're just asking if it was a list that might of been public, I for one wouldn't ask however I do have the daily arrests in my research folder. But I ain't provide for info who has what diseases.
I saw one BSW with what appears to be her pimps (2 of them) walking back and forth on Fremont. I also saw a WSW and she was so out of it that she crossed the street with the light just turning to green. I think she got into her pimps car behind the 711. On trop I saw three bsws but that's about it right now, around 830 pm.
Saw 3 sitting on the wall inside the gas station area of the WWW. I tried to get their attention, but no one was biting due to the probable pump in the car the were next too. Saw one spinner size WSW walking down toward the adult super store and a BSW by the orleans. This was around 11:30 tonight, so hopefully they're stil out there for my fellow late night hunters.
[QUOTE=BassLake;5490506]My friend works in records in Nevada law enforcement records. I dare not expose him, for risk of his job. He has given me a few stats from time to time on misdemeanor arrest from the daily records that he reviews from NDOC, CCDC, LV City, NC. If you want antything more specific, such as names and offenses that are prostitute related, you might PM me is you are a senior member. Oh, and the 3 std clinics I've read about, handle daily, many cases of the Big Three, gonorrhea, sylphlis, and clamidia, so bareback is risky. A condom beats a clinic visit. An HIV case is rate, but the BigThree are common.[/QUOTE]Hey Bass your mailbox is full, as it should be 😂.
It blows my mind how stupid some of these girls are. Called one today, she wanted 300 incall, she wasn't nearly hot enough to ask that amount but I asked where her incall was, she said WWW, no thanks, you would have to pay me to see someone at that dump. Asked her if she was working Trop, she said no. Really?
Called another, asked if she was doing in or outcall, she says I'm doing incall and cardates near Trop. Told her I don't do cardates, she said OK sorry. I said wait, I'll do an incall. She said she couldn't do an incall. Asked if I could pick her up and come to my house, told her the area, she said no, that's too far. OK, fine I'm moving on. Then she texts me saying she could do an outcall. At this point I know it's going to be a horrible time because this chick has no idea WTF she is doing.
Called several others that interested me, prices ranged from 400 to 600 for the hh.
Two of my ATF's are here from out of town, one celebrating her birthday so even though she said we would hook up, I'm not holding my breath. The other is here for a family party, same deal. That's one thing I hate when they come here to visit and work, they get caught up in Vegas and try to see you the morning they are heading home!!
Another weekend I'm sitting here thinking I should have just drove down to LA this morning.
[QUOTE=Dac007;5496097]Called several others that interested me, prices ranged from 400 to 600 for the hh.
Another weekend I'm sitting here thinking I should have just drove down to LA this morning.[/QUOTE]How is it that the scene has changed so much? What is happening that providers of all levels have managed to set the rates so high? I just don't get it. Are they all actually getting these insane rates? Are they making a lot doing other things? Has the amount of competition dropped so much they can ask what they are asking? I've never been turned down this much before, (both SW and high end), nor have I experienced so many providers that seem like they don't give a crap, or could care less about my business. Now we have to see high rates, "meh" attitudes, reduced services, and overall lack of quality in all facets of the hobby. Whats happening?
I was dropping a friend off Friday night / Saturday morning around 1-2 AM and saw this super hot, young (around 19-23 yo) brunette walk past my car right by the Orleans. She was wearing a skirt and a short top. She was blasting music from her phone and gave me the stare as if she knew I wanted to pick her up.
When I returned after dropping my friend off, she was gone. I even roamed around hoping she'd pop up again. Anyone know who she is? Has she been discussed here already? I am not talking about the girl with facial tattoos. If anyone has any info or a phone #, PLEASE pass it on, it'd be much appreciated!
Had time to do a couple of laps on trop before work. Saw a good amount of BSW out this morning. Couple regulars down by bk but 4 others a little further down the road that I didn't recognize. 3 BSW in front of Orleans and 2 BSW by the chevron. I didn't have time to stop but none were stopping traffic either. Most action that I have seen in a while. I wonder how it is in the early am hours. Stay safe!
[QUOTE=EvaNnara;5497266]I was dropping a friend off Friday night / Saturday morning around 1-2 AM and saw this super hot, young (around 19-23 yo) brunette walk past my car right by the Orleans. She was wearing a skirt and a short top. She was blasting music from her phone and gave me the stare as if she knew I wanted to pick her up.
When I returned after dropping my friend off, she was gone. I even roamed around hoping she'd pop up again. Anyone know who she is? Has she been discussed here already? I am not talking about the girl with facial tattoos. If anyone has any info or a phone #, PLEASE pass it on, it'd be much appreciated![/QUOTE]I seen her about a week ago but I thought she was a civ because she was literally speed-walking up Trop towards the Orlean, I stopped briefly and she made no contact stared at the floor and speedwalked the whole time.
I parked and watched her run across the street and then make another lap right back, Either she's new or LE? It was strange.
Catched up With A SW named Tina Blonde Tall girl Nice Body in a black dress walking on Boulder Hwy near Flamingo. She offered. 8 BBBJ + Cim But She Won't Swallow or $. 6 FS. I did got her digits In Case I Want to try with her.
Stay Safe Guys.
Here is my take on how we got to this point.
1. When FOSTA became law in 2018, many of the sites that hosted escort ads like Backpage and Craigslist either disappeared altogether or removed those sections. It became more difficult to find good escorts and guys were willing to pay a little more for the ones they could find.
2. To replace the free escort sites, we started seeing pay escort sites like SA and SB and guys were willing to pay just to get access to the sites! Girls realized that these guys would be willing to pay more for actual services since they were already willing to pay for access to the sites! So they started asking higher rates and expecting more.
3. Around the same time, o_n_l_y f_a_n_s appeared on the scene and girls got the idea they could make money simply by selling "content". Alot of guys were too stupid to know that there is more free porn on the internet than they could ever possibly watch in a lifetime. So they paid for this online "content". Girls then raised the prices of actual services, if they even needed to provide that at all now to make money.
4. When the COVID shutdowns and restrictions went into place, alot of mongers became hesitant to see girls in person. Many started paying for "content" and others took a break altogether. Alot of providers also took a break from real services. And guys who never even knew about our monger world discovered it because they had nothing better to do that stay at home and browse the internet, adding to the number of guys willing to pay for just "content". All of this contributed to raising prices for real in-person services because the market for real services shrunk while the amount of money they made for "content" went up.
5. When COVID restrictions started to loosen up, the pent up demand was unleashed and you know what happens to prices when demand goes up dramatically. So here we are.
[QUOTE=Doof808;5497022]How is it that the scene has changed so much? What is happening that providers of all levels have managed to set the rates so high? I just don't get it. Are they all actually getting these insane rates? Are they making a lot doing other things? Has the amount of competition dropped so much they can ask what they are asking? I've never been turned down this much before, (both SW and high end), nor have I experienced so many providers that seem like they don't give a crap, or could care less about my business. Now we have to see high rates, "meh" attitudes, reduced services, and overall lack of quality in all facets of the hobby. Whats happening?[/QUOTE].
In order to maintain the current prices for services, we mongers have to draw the line on cost.
60-70 (BBJ) max 100 (FS) for a car date - 60 for a hour massage with TS- 40-70 HJ- 100- 120 max BBJ- 200 total max for FS.
We need to be able to tell the over priced, substandard talent to "Get The Fux Out" when they quote crazy prices for services.
This is the only way to take back price control on the street. Most street and massage professionals are professional but it seems that a influx of.
Amateur's are trying to rewrite the street rules based on desperate clients.
Stay Safe Follow Mongers.
[QUOTE=Trypt;5500973]Here is my take on how we got to this point.
1. When FOSTA became law in 2018, many of the sites that hosted escort ads like Backpage and Craigslist either disappeared altogether or removed those sections. It became more difficult to find good escorts and guys were willing to pay a little more for the ones they could find.
2. To replace the free escort sites, we started seeing pay escort sites like SA and SB and guys were willing to pay just to get access to the sites! Girls realized that these guys would be willing to pay more for actual services since they were already willing to pay for access to the sites! So they started asking higher rates and expecting more.
3. Around the same time, o_n_l_y f_a_n_s appeared on the scene and girls got the idea they could make money simply by selling "content". Alot of guys were too stupid to know that there is more free porn on the internet than they could ever possibly watch in a lifetime. So they paid for this online "content". Girls then raised the prices of actual services, if they even needed to provide that at all now to make money.
4. When the COVID shutdowns and restrictions went into place, alot of mongers became hesitant to see girls in person. Many started paying for "content" and others took a break altogether. Alot of providers also took a break from real services. And guys who never even knew about our monger world discovered it because they had nothing better to do that stay at home and browse the internet, adding to the number of guys willing to pay for just "content". All of this contributed to raising prices for real in-person services because the market for real services shrunk while the amount of money they made for "content" went up.
5. When COVID restrictions started to loosen up, the pent up demand was unleashed and you know what happens to prices when demand goes up dramatically. So here we are.
.[/QUOTE]OK lots of people in Vegas understand money, but this economics analysis is outstanding.
[QUOTE=Crush1238;5501622]In order to maintain the current prices for services, we mongers have to draw the line on cost.
60-70 (BBJ) max 100 (FS) for a car date - 60 for a hour massage with TS- 40-70 HJ- 100- 120 max BBJ- 200 total max for FS.
We need to be able to tell the over priced, substandard talent to "Get The Fux Out" when they quote crazy prices for services.
This is the only way to take back price control on the street. Most street and massage professionals are professional but it seems that a influx of.
Amateur's are trying to rewrite the street rules based on desperate clients.
Stay Safe Follow Mongers.[/QUOTE]Okay, I'm new to Vegas, but from what I've been reading on this thread, and from what I've been seeing from the chicks on LC, it really doesn't matter if each and every one of us on here do exactly what you're saying. They are still going to try to charge rent money, because for every one of us trying to correct this shit, there's about 7 to 10 other dudes giving them exactly what they want (or more, with tips). I don't want to say it's a losing battle, but that "dark side" is definitely winning right now.
[QUOTE=EthanX;5501869]Okay, I'm new to Vegas, but from what I've been reading on this thread, and from what I've been seeing from the chicks on LC, it really doesn't matter if each and every one of us on here do exactly what you're saying. They are still going to try to charge rent money, because for every one of us trying to correct this shit, there's about 7 to 10 other dudes giving them exactly what they want (or more, with tips). I don't want to say it's a losing battle, but that "dark side" is definitely winning right now.[/QUOTE]I started to check out the usual site, mojo, LC, ect ect.
Damm, the shit that is out there. Now granted these sites are not the upscale girls, but DAMMM!
I will just settle for a lat house. Even with fat lat chicks!
I agreed with that but we should be able to get the car date down to 80 most of the time on a car date you will.
Only shoot one pop. We need to be able to get of a least 2 pops for 200 max. We all have to team up here and work on that. Listen I know this is las Vegas but in Florida example I can work out 2 pops for $ 200 with a fine girl. If they charge 60 70 80 up to 100 for BBBJ or qv one shot that means we can get the second shot for the same price. Do the math.
Teamwork guys, teamwork let's do it.
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Crush1238;5501622]In order to maintain the current prices for services, we mongers have to draw the line on cost.
60-70 (BBJ) max 100 (FS) for a car date - 60 for a hour massage with TS- 40-70 HJ- 100- 120 max BBJ- 200 total max for FS.
We need to be able to tell the over priced, substandard talent to "Get The Fux Out" when they quote crazy prices for services.
This is the only way to take back price control on the street. Most street and massage professionals are professional but it seems that a influx of.
Amateur's are trying to rewrite the street rules based on desperate clients.
Stay Safe Follow Mongers.[/QUOTE]
Couple I caught in the am On Ye Ol' Boulder Highway.
Girl with the cart was homeless, BSW is not my thing but man this one was hot. She waived at me but, I missed her. Trying to figure out where she stashed the cart tho.
Saw this strumpet but she only seems to want to know what's going to happen if I pick her up and negotiates via the window.
Can anyone give details or experience?
I was talking to a fellow monger and trop cruiser at work today.
He said he chatted up a Latina MILF at the Bgt Inn last Tuesday.
He said they came to a agreement on services and then she spoke Spanish to a little boy who was sitting close by playing on a phone.
My friend asked what's up? She replied that was her son and he would have to come along.
She assured my friend that he would be no bother, he'd just sit quietly and play on the phone while business commenced.
My friend said OK and took them down Wynn by the vacant commercial building.
Mom (performed great BBJ and sat on it while jr was in the back seat he said.
I told him I thought that situation was fuxed and I'd never go that far for street meat.
He said It was great and he didn't even consider it fuxed up.
So sad.
[QUOTE=Trypt;5500973]Here is my take on how we got to this point.
1. When FOSTA became law in 2018, many of the sites that hosted escort ads like Backpage and Craigslist either disappeared altogether or removed those sections. It became more difficult to find good escorts and guys were willing to pay a little more for the ones they could find.
2. To replace the free escort sites, we started seeing pay escort sites like SA and SB and guys were willing to pay just to get access to the sites! Girls realized that these guys would be willing to pay more for actual services since they were already willing to pay for access to the sites! So they started asking higher rates and expecting more.
3. Around the same time, o_n_l_y f_a_n_s appeared on the scene and girls got the idea they could make money simply by selling "content". Alot of guys were too stupid to know that there is more free porn on the internet than they could ever possibly watch in a lifetime. So they paid for this online "content". Girls then raised the prices of actual services, if they even needed to provide that at all now to make money.
4. When the COVID shutdowns and restrictions went into place, alot of mongers became hesitant to see girls in person. Many started paying for "content" and others took a break altogether. Alot of providers also took a break from real services. And guys who never even knew about our monger world discovered it because they had nothing better to do that stay at home and browse the internet, adding to the number of guys willing to pay for just "content". All of this contributed to raising prices for real in-person services because the market for real services shrunk while the amount of money they made for "content" went up.
5. When COVID restrictions started to loosen up, the pent up demand was unleashed and you know what happens to prices when demand goes up dramatically. So here we are.[/QUOTE]Awesome reply!
[QUOTE=NoHopeForMe;5503293]Saw this strumpet but she only seems to want to know what's going to happen if I pick her up and negotiates via the window.
Can anyone give details or experience?[/QUOTE]Hey, the police only negotiate true the window. Next time you see he just ask what she does for a living?
[QUOTE=Crush1238;5501622]In order to maintain the current prices for services, we mongers have to draw the line on cost.
60-70 (BBJ) max 100 (FS) for a car date - 60 for a hour massage with TS- 40-70 HJ- 100- 120 max BBJ- 200 total max for FS.
We need to be able to tell the over priced, substandard talent to "Get The Fux Out" when they quote crazy prices for services.
This is the only way to take back price control on the street. Most street and massage professionals are professional but it seems that a influx of.
Amateur's are trying to rewrite the street rules based on desperate clients.
Stay Safe Follow Mongers.[/QUOTE]Don't worry with the unemployment ending next month and eviction moratorium done, most of the new rich with $ in their pocket are going to be gone, it's a matter of time prices and I'll go down.
[QUOTE=MyDogBear;5504312]Hey the police only negotiate true the window. Next time you see he just ask what she does for a living?[/QUOTE]I have to disagree. While I won't do it, the number of women only negotiating through the window suggests there's too many UC LEO in one strip. Maybe you're right tho.
[QUOTE=NoHopeForMe;5503293]Saw this strumpet but she only seems to want to know what's going to happen if I pick her up and negotiates via the window.
Can anyone give details or experience?[/QUOTE]I always look for tats, Its rare to see a chick that's not in the life without one. Smh those gas prices are criminal tho.
Just did the stroll and there were some talent out tonight around 7 pm in front of the casino on Trop.
A latina BBW with a giant back pack who gave me the "wave" by chevron.
WSW by HD.
A tall WSW crack ***** in big black sunglasses and heels who could barely stand while waiting to cross, by the time I got back she was already picked up.
Then there was BIG red WSW bbw by the bus stop in leopard print staring at follow mongers driving by.
BSW BBW wilda beasts by BK.
Busy night so far.
I think the Hampton was built in the mid-90's. I'd walk over to the Chevron station, meet a date, seed her and let her stay over for the free breakfast. It was easy as long as you had drugs as bait.
[QUOTE=Crush1238;5508455]Just did the stroll and there were some talent out tonight around 7 pm in front of the casino on Trop.
A latina BBW with a giant back pack who gave me the "wave" by chevron.
WSW by HD.
A tall WSW crack ***** in big black sunglasses and heels who could barely stand while waiting to cross, by the time I got back she was already picked up.
Then there was BIG red WSW bbw by the bus stop in leopard print staring at follow mongers driving by.
BSW BBW wilda beasts by BK.
Busy night so far.[/QUOTE]They were all gone by 8:30. Went to dinner on West Trop with some friends, came through at 8:30 on our way, came back to the 15 coming home at about 10:30. Nothing at all each way.
[QUOTE=Crush1238;5501622]In order to maintain the current prices for services, we mongers have to draw the line on cost.
60-70 (BBJ) max 100 (FS) for a car date - 60 for a hour massage with TS- 40-70 HJ- 100- 120 max BBJ- 200 total max for FS.
We need to be able to tell the over priced, substandard talent to "Get The Fux Out" when they quote crazy prices for services.
This is the only way to take back price control on the street. Most street and massage professionals are professional but it seems that a influx of.
Amateur's are trying to rewrite the street rules based on desperate clients.
Stay Safe Follow Mongers.[/QUOTE]Here's the problem. The guys on this site are probably a small percentage of clients out there. And we all know the girls wouldn't be charging these prices if nobody was paying that amount. I'm not sure if we will ever see 2016-18 rates again. Sadly, I think what we all may need to do is either find a regular or two with decent rates and see them consistently or slow down, see 3/ month instead of 5-6 and get used to the higher rates. I'm leaning towards the first option with maybe trying to mix in new one once a month. The huge problem for me is paying the higher rates and having a horrible BS experience. I can deal with losing 80-$, I'm still pissed off after blowing that amount but if it's $$ plus, I'm really, really pissed off. This makes me much more cautious and the search much more difficult!! Seriously considering finding a girlfriend right now, this game used to be so much fun, now it's more of a hassle.