Inside the national push to arrest men who buy sex
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;5993594]Let me start off by saying that I have no reasons to doubt that you have actually read the police incident report. Since you have read the police incident report and you didn't mention any mongers were taken to the police station, then there can only be 2 possibilities. One possibility is that there were mongers there at the time of bust and they were all let go on the spot. Or there were no mongers there at the time of bust. 11:53 am is in the middle of the day. Hard to believe there were no mongers there at that time. But for the sake of argument, let's say there really weren't any mongers there at the time of bust. Then the question becomes if they were really interested in catching mongers, why wouldn't they have just waited until some mongers were inside first before doing the bust? With how busy RL is, they shouldn't have to wait too long before one or more mongers show up. Again people, draw you own conclusion. To me, this is a clear indication that the cops are simply not interested in catching mongers. We are all just there for a massage.[/QUOTE]"If we're serious about ending sex trafficking, it's very clear that something needs to be done about the buyers".
[URL]https://time.com/sex-buyers-why-cops-across-the-u-s-target-men-who-buy-prostitutes/[/URL]
This article says recently there is a trend to arrest and charge Johns. Never let your vigilance down. I appreciate the voluntary lookout in this forum. Please keep us informed. Respect.
Calling Anonymity with WeChat.
Conventional phone texting is stone age. And super dangerous if you want to stay private.
If you are going to any Chinese AMP or apartment, you can use WeChat once you connect with either the mammasan or the massage girl. A billion Chinese folks use WeChat and it not connected to any phone number. Also it has built in translation acpability. Download or iPhone or Android. Free. I keep it in a hidden folder and I set the notifications to "off" so that I don't get a message at the worng time. At most AMPs, assuming the session goes well you can ask to connect with them. My speech would go something like this. "I really want to see you again. " I'm afriad you might go to another shop. Most girls will size you up but probably connect with you (using a QR code). At one point I had over 40 active "friend" contacts. Was able on numberous occasions to visit them on their day off. Win / win since the house doesn't get a cut (although the motel owner does.) If you end up with a contact that becomes problematic you can block them from all further contact. That, by the way, is the reason the girls are not afraid to add you to the list. If they become afraid of you they will block you. You can easily delete all histroy from a contact when necessary.
Three caveats: (1) Your messages go thru WeChat servers in China. (Government) So don't say anything political and don't reveal any personal / finacial information. (2) Don't tell the mamason you are communicating with her girls. They'll get in trouble. (3) Don't say anything particularly incriminating. A couple times my messages were seen by the girl's husband. Again the girl got in trouble. As far as I'm concerned, though these are the same precautions you would follow with conventional texting.
Bob.
[QUOTE=NovaBrain;5993080]I'm a new monger, and one of the first things I took care of was staying anonymous. I use an app called Burner similar to the one mentioned below (Hush). It's just an app that sits on your phone with an entirely separate phone number in a completely isolated environment. You can use it as if it were any other texting / calling app, and it only uses your real phone number to log in.
I've used this app for other stuff before, but for this new hobby I had made a completely new number. At one of the first AMPs I went to, after texting for a lineup, within the hour I had three completely random spam calls. The next day, I had over 5 missed calls and a few messages. I was also put into a group chat with a few other mongers, and at that point I 'burned' that number and started again. This isn't that common, but it's definitely happened more than once.
I brought that up because it's not only potential LEOs, friends, or your spouse that can find your number and link it back to the hobby. The parlors and providers also may do really stupid stuff with your number, like selling it to a spam call list or even shadier entities. Potential blackmailing and phishing comes to mind.
If you can't use an app like Hushed or Burner, get a second phone for hobbying. It's not worth the headache of getting your primary number leaked out to places it shouldn't be. If you're hiding the app from your spouse, make sure to delete the download from your respective app store. (Uninstall the app, delete the 2 FA sms code texts, AND delete the purchase from the app store).
I've also talked to providers, and some mongers use Zelle / Venmo / Cashapp for extra tips. If this is you, make sure you're using a separate bank account, or number, or anything possible to separate it from your primary account. That still isn't ideal though, because I think all of these apps ultimately trace up to either your bank account or debit card (which. Needs a bank), but if you're planning on hiding, obfuscating the paper trail will help a lot.
Take care of yourselves and your privacy guys, especially if you aren't supposed to get caught doing this![/QUOTE]
Pause for a couple of weeks
[QUOTE=OFCharlie;5995195]If cops are serious about catching mongers, busting an apartment is not a great way to do that. Let me explain. RL has 3 girls. Let's assume all 3 girls are busy with mongers and there are a couple more guys waiting. That is 5 guys total. As soon as cops bust in, that is all they will get, 5. Cops can not just wait inside for more mongers to show up. This is because the booker stays at a different place. When the booker can't reach the door guy, she will know something is wrong. When she knows something is wrong, she won't send mongers in. Plus, mongers will see cop cars outside. There are better ways to catch 5 mongers than spending weeks and months doing surveillance. Personally I don't think cops would spend that kind of time and resources to just catch 5 mongers. Now if you want to say that mongers are just a bonus as part of busting the apartment, fine I won't argue with you on that point. But to say the main purpose of busting an apartment is to catch mongers is simply not correct imo.
Thai girl Lisa is one of the 3 girls taken in. She is starting at PAC today per their Twitter page. Anyone who goes to see her can ask her if there were any mongers there at the time of RL bust and if there were mongers at that time, what happened to them. Thai Lisa is popular, so I am sure one of us will be seeing her. Anyone who see her, please ask the question and report back here so that we can settle this once for all.[/QUOTE]Just stay away from the apartments for a couple of weeks. Wait until no more posts on police, then come back to these apartments. It's not giving up this hobby, just stay low for a couple of weeks.
This is Exactly What Just Went Down in Ohio
Mongers.
I have 3 friends who got busted in this see article. They were just normal mongers like us making visits to apartments / AMPs / hotels there were no trafficked girls or minors as stated in the article. My one good friend told me for months they kept busting these places and never arrested a single monger which seemed odd but they would raid the place when they knew no one was there but the girls and house booker. Here is where it gets scary for us.
They bring the girls in to the police station ask them if they are trafficked or there at their own will. They then take the house guys phone and girls phone to do a sim dump (this is what they did in Ohio) the next day the booker will send out a mass text which is actually down by the police sex crimes unit and when you reply to the text they start their investigation on you. This is 100% exactly what happened to my 3 friends in Ohio. One friend told me spot he went to got busted twice and literally next day there were opened again and same thing with odd text out of no where asking if they wanted to make appointment- then 9 months later his gets a certified letter which was an indictment. What's even more scary is each one used WeChat or burners. So at the time they had no clue how they would be found but turns out when their lawyers requested discovery it was noted the cameras these locations use to protect their business were actually used to identify mongers. Parking out front, parking in back and there were actually identified by plate numbers -.
[URL]https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/10/05/ohio-sex-trafficking-sting-nets-161-arrests-elyria-councilman/6008063001/[/URL]
All I'm saying is if you aren't willing to go to jail then don't do the crime. I myself love Asian Women so this doesn't faze me but be prepared to get arrested at some point fellas.
Click the link and see what happens
[QUOTE=Fit312;5995548][URL]https://www.redlanternchicago.com/[/URL][/QUOTE]When you click the link it picks up your up address.
Exactly How Ohio Bust Went Down
[QUOTE=LongDStyle;5995840]Here's the media spin on the current situation.
Edit: appears this is only the Naperville area. Doesnt appear any Chicago locations are included here.
[URL]https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/chicagoland-massage-parlor-owners-charged-promoting-prostitution-money-laundering[/URL][/QUOTE]Exactly how Ohio Bust Started most of the operations were run out of suburb locations then once those people where napped and facing a ton of jail time they talked and gave up info on bigger operations. This all stems back to SS or RL telling on HKPD and then allowing the owner of HKPD to go to RL and SS and fuck their girls while working with LEO. I personally provided some top members on this forum pics of the Feds yes Feds not local police parked right outside of SS for a 2 hour period. Next time you go into one of these locations look at their cameras they literally spread about 1/2 a city block outside meaning if you parked near a place they are going to have footage of you coming and going from the location and footage of you entering the location-.
They want Mongers more than the girls because without us there is no sex business. All I'm saying is my friends in Ohio who got busted thought they were in the clear then 9 months later they get a surprise in the mail. So if anyone is still going to these apartments right now you have a serious learning disability.
Trust Me I Feel Your Pain
[QUOTE=Zagal;5997306]In a recent post I saw that it was Thai Lisa that was the one caught and now at SS / PAC whatever. Quick FYI, the pic on the tweet page of her backside where you can somewhat see her back tattoo is her real pic, other pics are not. That ass looked fantastic in doggy when she was there a few months ago, anyways, I am very tempted to see her again but can't risk it. Wish there was some type of outcall service where they can't be followed but even then would she still rat us out? Damn, let me just take a cold shower and get my mind off Asian ass for a minute LOL![/QUOTE]Zagal.
Trust me I feel your pain I would visit these spots at least twice a week. Only benefit to all this bullshit happening is saving a few $$ while these asshole apartment owners realize that telling on each other is only hurting their own businesses. But hopefully they will be back up and running soon and need to have a better screening process like KP now it makes sense why KP is so hard to get into. Really can't blame the owner of HKPD someone told on him first and he just returned the favors.
