Casino girls

I think theres some misconceptions amoungst noobs here that are probably best addressed by reading the threads dedicated to thoose specific topics.

However I will note that some of the posters here have done a GREAT job answering some of the questions. I'll just toss in my two cents on a few things.

For reference, I've probably picked up over 20 girls on the streets in my various travels to Vegas (way more pickups than that, but often the same girl repeatedly). And I've probably been with over 25 cg's.

1.) Attire. The khaki's and polo shirt recommendation is great. Basically you just want to be clean and neat in appearance. If you dress scrubby, or keep 5 days growth of beard, you might want to reconsider. The ladies don't really care what you look like, but if you stink or give off a creeper vibe (like they think you're going to dice them up and toss them in a stew) , the working ladies have a extra sense of things and will avoid you. The best way to be approachable is to dress in a clean cut manner.

2.) Don't ask for stupid fucking stuff. This isn't an elaborate incall situation. It's pump and dump with a girl who has likely been out and about all night. Don't fucking romanticize it. The girl likely has a musky smell downstairs from walking around all night. It's not necessarily going to be strong, or even something you notice. But if you ask to go down on her, you're a fucking moron. Don't expect kissing, DATY, or anything resembling GFE. Expect to get a CBJ, multiple position. If you're lucky. And I emphasize that this is really rather rare. You'll be able to negotiate a low hour rate that includes multiples. But usually its one blow and you are done. Thats why everyone on here advocates paying no more than $200, and lower if you can get it.

3.) It's Vegas. And while you can find anything at anytime, things are WAY more consistent late at night in regards to CG's. Simply put, if you go chill at the hotel bar at 9pm, maybe a cg will approach you, but more times than not, they won't. And you won't have much of a variety of choice. OTOH, if you stroll the high traffic areas at 2am on a Friday night / Saturday morning, you get a plethora of choices.

4.) Fremont Street. Sometimes there are girls out, sometimes there are not. As far as I can tell, there is zero predictability of when this happens. Best places are the center bar in Golden Nugget, followed by simply strolling Fremont Street. If you want more of a sure thing and don't have high standards (plus you tolerate rough areas) , walk down Fremont Street to the Western, and maybe a few blocks past that. Just be able to handle yourself, and be aware of the police cameras around Fremont / Maryland.

5.) If you EVER pay more than $$$ for a cg, you're making a huge mistake. No one is worth that. No one. If you want an upscale incall girl and you've read the online reviews and want to fork over $$$$$+, thats fine. Your business. But not for a cg. Not ever. Most of the cg's are pimped and / or drug addicts. It's all a game and if they can get a dumb trick to cough up major dough, they just made daddy very proud.

[QUOTE=Speck; 1306366]I think theres some misconceptions amoungst noobs here that are probably best addressed by reading the threads dedicated to thoose specific topics.

However I will note that some of the posters here have done a GREAT job answering some of the questions. I'll just toss in my two cents on a few things.

For reference, I've probably picked up over 20 girls on the streets in my various travels to Vegas (way more pickups than that, but often the same girl repeatedly). And I've probably been with over 25 cg's.

1.) Attire. The khaki's and polo shirt recommendation is great. Basically you just want to be clean and neat in appearance. If you dress scrubby, or keep 5 days growth of beard, you might want to reconsider. The ladies don't really care what you look like, but if you stink or give off a creeper vibe (like they think you're going to dice them up and toss them in a stew) , the working ladies have a extra sense of things and will avoid you. The best way to be approachable is to dress in a clean cut manner.

2.) Don't ask for stupid fucking stuff. This isn't an elaborate incall situation. It's pump and dump with a girl who has likely been out and about all night. Don't fucking romanticize it. The girl likely has a musky smell downstairs from walking around all night. It's not necessarily going to be strong, or even something you notice. But if you ask to go down on her, you're a fucking moron. Don't expect kissing, DATY, or anything resembling GFE. Expect to get a CBJ, multiple position. If you're lucky. And I emphasize that this is really rather rare. You'll be able to negotiate a low hour rate that includes multiples. But usually its one blow and you are done. Thats why everyone on here advocates paying no more than $200, and lower if you can get it.

3.) It's Vegas. And while you can find anything at anytime, things are WAY more consistent late at night in regards to CG's. Simply put, if you go chill at the hotel bar at 9pm, maybe a cg will approach you, but more times than not, they won't. And you won't have much of a variety of choice. OTOH, if you stroll the high traffic areas at 2am on a Friday night / Saturday morning, you get a plethora of choices.

4.) Fremont Street. Sometimes there are girls out, sometimes there are not. As far as I can tell, there is zero predictability of when this happens. Best places are the center bar in Golden Nugget, followed by simply strolling Fremont Street. If you want more of a sure thing and don't have high standards (plus you tolerate rough areas) , walk down Fremont Street to the Western, and maybe a few blocks past that. Just be able to handle yourself, and be aware of the police cameras around Fremont / Maryland.

5.) If you EVER pay more than $$$ for a cg, you're making a huge mistake. No one is worth that. No one. If you want an upscale incall girl and you've read the online reviews and want to fork over $$$$$+, thats fine. Your business. But not for a cg. Not ever. Most of the cg's are pimped and / or drug addicts. It's all a game and if they can get a dumb trick to cough up major dough, they just made daddy very proud.[/QUOTE]And as has been written before exercise extreme caution. Lock your valuables up in the room safe before you go out. Do not take a CG to your room and leave her alone or out of your site. If you have anything to drink while you are with her keep it in your possession at all times. Do not give her a chance to slip something in it. Some of these CG's will try to rip you off in any way they can so do not give them the opportunity.

While you are out looking be discrete and do not draw attention to yourself. In Vegas there are eyes everywhere.

Get to know your hotel bartenders. They know the score and can be a good source of valuable information if you find the right one. Remember that he or she works for tips and when it is slow a nice tip can go a long way. I have been steered towards fun girls and away from trouble on more than one occasions by a bartender.

For guys over 40, 50, 60, the basic well fitting grey slacks, nice shoes and a button down casual work shirt says I am here on business, had my meetings and now need relief, add your ring and it says no trouble here-works for me, almost had a nice MILF cocktail waitress but then the wife shows up. Maybe next time.

[QUOTE=Originalwook; 1306625]And as has been written before exercise extreme caution. Lock your valuables up in the room safe before you go out. Do not take a CG to your room and leave her alone or out of your site. If you have anything to drink while you are with her keep it in your possession at all times. Do not give her a chance to slip something in it. Some of these CG's will try to rip you off in any way they can so do not give them the opportunity.

While you are out looking be discrete and do not draw attention to yourself. In Vegas there are eyes everywhere.

Get to know your hotel bartenders. They know the score and can be a good source of valuable information if you find the right one. Remember that he or she works for tips and when it is slow a nice tip can go a long way. I have been steered towards fun girls and away from trouble on more than one occasions by a bartender.[/QUOTE]Very good advice by both Speck and OriginalWook. One other addition I'd like to add is: know what you are paying and for exactly what BEFORE you go upstairs. If you leave the negotiations to the room, the little head will take charge and you end up spending more than you planned. Every Time. Guaranteed.

Also, to add to OriginalWooks bartender statement. The girls sitting around by themselves playing VP and seemingly know the Bartenders well more than likely are CG's.

[QUOTE=FunTrust;1306662]For guys over 40, 50, 60, the basic well fitting grey slacks, nice shoes and a button down casual work shirt says I am here on business, had my meetings and now need relief, add your ring and it says no trouble here-works for me, almost had a nice MILF cocktail waitress but then the wife shows up. Maybe next time.[/QUOTE]Dress well, as well as you can and still feel comfortable. I like to wear nice jeans, a button down (or nice t-shirt depending on the temp) , and a sport coat. Just be cool as it is no mystery how this works. Be confident, don't get too drunk, and make things clear before the room. That is all there is to it!

[QUOTE=JamieEG;1300641]Made it to town, stay at Aria 4 nights. Anybody had luck here?[/QUOTE]Hello, again. Sorry for the long delay in following up and reporting on my Vegas adventures.

The news is short. I tried the places mentioned 3 nights in a row and was never able to finish the deal.

1- At Planet Hollywood I met a couple of different girls on different nights, both black, both not super attractive (meaning too "thick" for me) and in one case, crazy silly expensive. I passed.

2- I did see a few more attractive girls here and there. Might have been CGs, maybe not. As I reported in other posts, it seems that every girl that fit my idea of a CG was strolling or sitting with another girl or two. Maybe I'm just too shy to grab the next bar stool and hope a conversation starts.

Paris seemed to have to most cute, white, girls in that 20-24 age range, but like I said. Never even got a good conversation started. One guy mentioned the cobblestone walkway, and I'm pretty sure I strolled that 10+ times over a couple of eves, so I must just be bad luck.

3- To save the weekend I posted in the adult jobs part of BP that I was in town on business looking for a girl to make a home made video. That worked. In fact, worked so good I had to arrange late check out last day to get in a 3rd gal.

Overall, cute girls. Night as tight or sexy as I hoped, but certainly not "thick" and rude.

Until next time.

J

[QUOTE=JamieEG; 1307795]Hello, again. Sorry for the long delay in following up and reporting on my Vegas adventures.

The news is short. I tried the places mentioned 3 nights in a row and was never able to finish the deal.

1- At Planet Hollywood I met a couple of different girls on different nights, both black, both not super attractive (meaning too "thick" for me) and in one case, crazy silly expensive. I passed.

2- I did see a few more attractive girls here and there. Might have been CGs, maybe not. As I reported in other posts, it seems that every girl that fit my idea of a CG was strolling or sitting with another girl or two. Maybe I'm just too shy to grab the next bar stool and hope a conversation starts.

Paris seemed to have to most cute, white, girls in that 20-24 age range, but like I said. Never even got a good conversation started. One guy mentioned the cobblestone walkway, and I'm pretty sure I strolled that 10+ times over a couple of eves, so I must just be bad luck.

3- To save the weekend I posted in the adult jobs part of BP that I was in town on business looking for a girl to make a home made video. That worked. In fact, worked so good I had to arrange late check out last day to get in a 3rd gal.

Overall, cute girls. Night as tight or sexy as I hoped, but certainly not "thick" and rude.

Until next time.

J[/QUOTE]Every experience is Vegas is different, there's nothing cookie-cutter about it. Overall, it sounds like you had a good trip. You evaluated what you saw, used your head to rule out the ones that didn't meet your tastes or pocketbook, you came up with a backup plan that worked. Good for you man.

When approaching, talking to, or negotiating with CGs in the casino bars, should one worry about being caught in an LE trap or sting? I would assume that LE would not want to cause a scene inside the casino, but then part of me thinks "maybe." I'm not talking about casino security breaking up a potential good time, I mean actual legal troubles.

While I'm on the topic, how about making a call to a girl and having her outcall to your hotel room? Fairly safe from a sting or LE trap? Sorry to be so paranoid but too many MSNBC specials will do that. The last thing I want when on vacation with family is to be bailed out of jail.

[QUOTE=Roxtar1011; 1308177]When approaching, talking to, or negotiating with CGs in the casino bars, should one worry about being caught in an LE trap or sting? I would assume that LE would not want to cause a scene inside the casino, but then part of me thinks "maybe." I'm not talking about casino security breaking up a potential good time, I mean actual legal troubles.

While I'm on the topic, how about making a call to a girl and having her outcall to your hotel room? Fairly safe from a sting or LE trap? Sorry to be so paranoid but too many MSNBC specials will do that. The last thing I want when on vacation with family is to be bailed out of jail.[/QUOTE]While there are stings in casinos (Aria and Cosmo recently) they are typically focusing on the girls. Also many of the Caesars Entertainment casinos seem to discourage them (although Flamingo and Caeasars don't IMHO follow this rule most of the time). I really doubt LV police would set up a sting to arrest tourists (especially given the economic situation of LV and the need for more business). That being said be discrete and follow the rules like you would anywhere else picking up a girl. Don't ask for anything specific and let her lead the conversation.

On outcalls, sure you can do that. Go to P411 (assuming you are a member) and there are many girls working Las Vegas that do incall, outcall or both. Expect to pay $300-$500 for most of them but you can pretty much be assured that they are clean, you won't get into legal problems (check their references and history on P411) and also many allow multiple pops. On the other hand I wouldn't begin to trust back page or similar such sites. The quality is a lot more inconsistent and there are many scams that have been associated with the girls. P411 is the safest way to be sure what you are getting but, as mentioned previously, it costs more.

[QUOTE=Roxtar1011; 1308177]When approaching, talking to, or negotiating with CGs in the casino bars, should one worry about being caught in an LE trap or sting? I would assume that LE would not want to cause a scene inside the casino, but then part of me thinks "maybe." I'm not talking about casino security breaking up a potential good time, I mean actual legal troubles.

While I'm on the topic, how about making a call to a girl and having her outcall to your hotel room? Fairly safe from a sting or LE trap? Sorry to be so paranoid but too many MSNBC specials will do that. The last thing I want when on vacation with family is to be bailed out of jail.[/QUOTE]I would think the last thing you'd want while vacationing with the family is to bring ANY girl to your room under any condition no matter where you found her. Unless you've got this ultimate arrangement and have a separate room. That said, you're pretty safe from "john" stings inside the casinos when picking up a girl, they do those outdoors or in hotel rooms where they can control the situation.

Whoever you try to pick up (CG or SW) , when she asks what you do or why you're in town tell her you're a professional photographer doing nude photo shoots and ask her if she's interested in posing for you. Or do what Jamie did, say you're a videographer doing nude videos. If you get ANYTHING besides a "yes" you should walk away immediately. Once you get that yes, go to the bar and buy her a drink and talk it over. Be cool, relax and be yourself, I've found much more success with this approach than standing in the middle of the floor negotiating.

Lots of other good pieces of advice can be found in this thread. Always use the big head before you use the little one.

[quote=roxtar1011; 1308177]when approaching, talking to, or negotiating with cgs in the casino bars, should one worry about being caught in an le trap or sting? I would assume that le would not want to cause a scene inside the casino, but then part of me thinks "maybe." i'm not talking about casino security breaking up a potential good time, i mean actual legal troubles.

While i'm on the topic, how about making a call to a girl and having her outcall to your hotel room? Fairly safe from a sting or le trap? Sorry to be so paranoid but too many msnbc specials will do that. The last thing i want when on vacation with family is to be bailed out of jail.[/quote]don't pick up hookers when you are on vacation with the family.

[QUOTE=Speck;1309388]don't pick up hookers when you are on vacation with the family.[/QUOTE]Its not a wife and kids thing, I'm not crazy. Its just getting together with a few relatives for a long weekend.

Just booked trip to LV for the 2nd weekend in December. Staying at TI. I'll have reports when they come. Re-reading the forum (started on page 51. Dec. 2010).

[QUOTE=MushroomStic;1309671]Just booked trip to LV for the 2nd weekend in December. Staying at TI. I'll have reports when they come. Re-reading the forum (started on page 51. Dec. 2010).[/QUOTE]Ahhhh Stic, did we really need to know that info for any apparant reason?

Come, then broadcast it all over USASG, then perhaps all the newbies here can help you find what your looking for ehhh.

PC out

[QUOTE=MushroomStic;1309671]Just booked trip to LV for the 2nd weekend in December. Staying at TI. I'll have reports when they come. Re-reading the forum (started on page 51. Dec. 2010).[/QUOTE]Looking forward to these reports so I can plan my next visit!