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[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1313152]Was just watching the news and it is projecting apec will inject 120 million. Into the states economy, it a huge headache but I guess. There a good pay. Off![/QUOTE]Yeah, this APEC is just another dog and pony show, just like Rail. State "invests" $120 million, while APEC wants to make the entire Pacific basin a "free trade" zone. More USA jobs being outsourced overseas. Veterans parade has been canceled in Wahiawa, lost of business revenue because HPD too busy in Waikiki to control traffic. Schofield army police could fill in, but no HPD cops need to get their overtime, hell with the residents and business in Wahiawa.

Just like Rail, city of Honolulu "invests" $5 billion on boondoggle where over 80 percent of Oahu taxpayers will not even ride that obsolete technology that will never eleviate traffic jams and actually cause more disruptions during its projected 10 year building phase. All your taxpayer's money going to into the wrong pockets, the corrupt politicians and their cronies.

[QUOTE=Johnny14; 1316590]Yeah, this APEC is just another dog and pony show, just like Rail. State "invests" $120 million, while APEC wants to make the entire Pacific basin a "free trade" zone. More USA jobs being outsourced overseas. Veterans parade has been canceled in Wahiawa, lost of business revenue because HPD too busy in Waikiki to control traffic. Schofield army police could fill in, but no HPD cops need to get their overtime, hell with the residents and business in Wahiawa.

Just like Rail, city of Honolulu "invests" $5 billion on boondoggle where over 80 percent of Oahu taxpayers will not even ride that obsolete technology that will never eleviate traffic jams and actually cause more disruptions during its projected 10 year building phase. All your taxpayer's money going to into the wrong pockets, the corrupt politicians and their cronies.[/QUOTE]I don't confess to know everything but this is what I see, apec comes to town along with their cash (120 million, projected) , now most of it may go to tourism (hotels, tour companies, visitor attractions, audio & video, stage and lighting, ect.) , security and whobever else is involved with setting up the state to handle the influx. These people will score directly from the added work that it takes to put on this event, but a month from now these families going renovate that bathroom they always wanted to but didn't quite have enough to do, now the construction worker going have a little extra side work and because of that he going buy that new board he always wanted for the upcoming winter but was just making ends meet but with that one side job, the surfboard shaper get one more extra board on the slate and because of that extra board he made he going take the family out for dinner, and on and on, you get the idea, this is won't be immediately apparent, like we all want our stuff and we want it now but look long term and there really is a payoff for all!

[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1316605]I don't confess to know everything but this is what I see, apec comes to town along with their cash (120 million, projected)[/QUOTE]Consider this:

APEC spending ________________________________________________$120, 000, 000.

Less: What displaced regular tourists would have spent anyway _________. $80, 000, 000.

Less: Police OT and National Guard ________________________________-$20, 000, 000.

Less: Irritation to regular tourists.

Kapiolani Park, Iolani Palace, Diamond head closed.

Visitors walk out from hotels to get taxis.

18 hour traffic jams. Dissatisfaction is hard to measure but has real.

Economic consequences ________________________________________-$2, 000, 000.

Less: Irritation to locals (reduced local spending in Waikiki) _______________$500, 000.

Feeling that government does not care is a further intangible loss.

Net gain (maybe if we are really lucky) ______________________________$17, 500, 000.

[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1316605]on and on, you get the idea[/QUOTE]It may be positive but not as much as officials want you to believe.

Yeah, lots of commotion, traffic congestion, our convenience of having our beautiful parks available to us taken away, etc. All logical complaints.

Why do they even need to have it here, right? We don't need these hassles, right?

One reason I saw to put up with these "hassles" is we belong to the Pacific RIM and therefore must do our part, like it or not. We do benefit from belonging to the Pacific RIM. We have benefited for a long time with the visitors from Asia and Southeast Asia. It costs Hawaii 27 million, but how much have we gained from these countries sending us their visitors? And for how long have they been doing this? Days? Weeks? More like decades. Do we want it to continue? Sure we do. Tiny example: Look at Pink and all the great girls now. Would we get these girls with such regularity if we were not part of this consortium? Hard to say definitively, but I would hazard a guess most likely not.

Hawaii is a cheap stated, considering California has a 60Billion rail project proposed. Hawaii is spending 27million on APEC, Singapore 2 years ago spent 70million. Japan, if they join, will spend 200million. Leaders of 21 Pacific RIM countries have experienced Hawaii first hand.

We live in Hawaii. Where's the Aloha? Give back more than what you get. Or have we forgotten that?

For one week of hassles, we have gotten years of patronage. Small price to pay, IMHO.

Not trying to argue, just one person's opinion.

In any case, IT'S DONE! Release the hounds! LOL.

V Rider

[QUOTE=V Rider; 1316852]Yeah, lots of commotion, traffic congestion, our convenience of having our beautiful parks available to us taken away, etc. All logical complaints.

Why do they even need to have it here, right? We don't need these hassles, right?

One reason I saw to put up with these "hassles" is we belong to the Pacific RIM and therefore must do our part, like it or not. We do benefit from belonging to the Pacific RIM. We have benefited for a long time with the visitors from Asia and Southeast Asia. It costs Hawaii 27 million, but how much have we gained from these countries sending us their visitors? And for how long have they been doing this? Days? Weeks? More like decades. Do we want it to continue? Sure we do. Tiny example: Look at Pink and all the great girls now. Would we get these girls with such regularity if we were not part of this consortium? Hard to say definitively, but I would hazard a guess most likely not.

Hawaii is a cheap stated, considering California has a 60Billion rail project proposed. Hawaii is spending 27million on APEC, Singapore 2 years ago spent 70million. Japan, if they join, will spend 200million. Leaders of 21 Pacific RIM countries have experienced Hawaii first hand.

We live in Hawaii. Where's the Aloha? Give back more than what you get. Or have we forgotten that?

For one week of hassles, we have gotten years of patronage. Small price to pay, IMHO.

Not trying to argue, just one person's opinion.

In any case, IT'S DONE! Release the hounds! LOL.

V Rider[/QUOTE]You forgot to mention the 90+ major companies in town for the conference that brought their CEO's and other delicates that paid full rate to stay in our Waikiki. Hopefully some of these companies will come back to hold their own conventions in Hawaii. That means more work.

The last APEC CEO Conference was last held on US soil in the 1990's. It was perfectly fitting that the 10th Annual conference was held in the middle of what it was all about.

Plus Chile, China, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia oh and France among other countries brought over some real hot babes. The hottest babe was from Indonisia.

[QUOTE=Honolulu808; 1316880]You forgot to mention the 90+ major companies in town for the conference that brought their CEO's and other deliates that paid full rate to stay in our Waikiki. Hopefully some of these companies will come back to hold their own conventions in Hawaii. That means more work.

The last APEC CEO Conference was last held on US soil in the 1990's. It was perfectly fitting that the 10th Annual conference was held in the middle of what it was all about.

Plus Chile, China, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia oh and France among other countries brought over some real hot babes. The hottest babe was from Indonisia.[/QUOTE]Right-o, H808!

I'm partial to the Filipino delegates. Some of President Aquino III's entourage rocked my world! LOL

V Rider

[QUOTE=Honolulu808;1316880]Plus Chile, China, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia oh and France among other countries brought over some real hot babes. The hottest babe was from Indonisia.[/QUOTE]I think I know which one you are talking about. To put it shortly I work at where the Indonesion delegation is staying. Get to see her dress up for the conference, and see her in her normal clothes. She is pretty damn hot!

[QUOTE=Spyda;1317383]I think I know which one you are talking about. To put it shortly I work at where the Indonesion delegation is staying. Get to see her dress up for the conference, and see her in her normal clothes. She is pretty damn hot![/QUOTE]Question, where can I see pictures of these females from the different delegations?

[QUOTE=Honolulu808; 1316880]You forgot to mention the 90+ major companies in town for the conference that brought their CEO's and other delicates that paid full rate to stay in our Waikiki. Hopefully some of these companies will come back to hold their own conventions in Hawaii. That means more work.

The last APEC CEO Conference was last held on US soil in the 1990's. It was perfectly fitting that the 10th Annual conference was held in the middle of what it was all about.

Plus Chile, China, Korea, Thailand, Hong Kong, Singapore, Russia oh and France among other countries brought over some real hot babes. The hottest babe was from Indonisia.[/QUOTE]You can believe what you want about the pros / cons of APEC. I'll tell you their process and forseight.

In certain aspect of planning this clusterfuk is for shit. As I sit here once again waiting for H1 to reopen again during rush hour traffic, where a simple Helicopter ride back and fourth to their destination would eliminate the stupidity.

Since only Russia, US, and Chinese "delegates " are the reason for the shut down I know this is doable for a fact.

Oh and those90+ CEOs that are here? They'd be here regardless. The leaders all come here to Bloaviate anyway that's what polititians do. So again F APEC. When its over you will truelly find nothing was gained. EVEN in the long run!

Empty your mailbox, bra.

V Rider

I'm going to be taking a trip to LA county soon and was wondering if anyone had any recomendations on AMP, KB, or anything fun. I'm not really into the whole escort or SW thing and I can figure out the SC from others. Tried searching on LA, OC, Long Beach, etc forums but its nothing like here. I'm starting to wonder if we provide the most action on these forums. Had a few reports that were positive but sounded like one girl here and one girl there. My taste is in the younger area, such as bars and AMP in the Ala area. Any info would be appreciated although I'm starting to think its really not like here.

[QUOTE=Blade82;1319732]I'm going to be taking a trip to LA county soon and was wondering if anyone had any recomendations on AMP, KB, or anything fun. I'm not really into the whole escort or SW thing and I can figure out the SC from others. Tried searching on LA, OC, Long Beach, etc forums but its nothing like here. I'm starting to wonder if we provide the most action on these forums. Had a few reports that were positive but sounded like one girl here and one girl there. My taste is in the younger area, such as bars and AMP in the Ala area. Any info would be appreciated although I'm starting to think its really not like here.[/QUOTE]Rubmaps man. Hmm. I wonder if the places are like here in Hi? Or, going be like the ones in Vegas?

[url]http://www.rubmaps.com/los-angeles-massage-parlors-ca[/url]

Ok here is my topic of shame.

I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.

Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.

Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.

Pm for details.

Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.

This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.

[QUOTE=Pipefittah808; 1321256]Ok here is my topic of shame.

I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.

Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.

Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.

Pm for details.

Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.

This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.[/QUOTE]Good post. But there's no shame involved here. You were a gentleman and tried to express your feelings by helping her out, but she didn't reciprocate as you thought she might. That's OK, she wasn't obliged to. However, the problem is the manner in which she didn't reciprocate.

Many people simply lack the proper social skills and experience to gracefully let someone know that they're not interested in pursuing the relationship. This is what happened between the two of you. That doesn't necessarily mean that she should be lumped into a group, and labeled and dismissed as simply being a "ho", although the pain she caused you would understandably give you that right.

I have no idea of whom you're talking about, but is it possible that there were cultural and / or language issues that impeded her ability to be forthright and polite with you?

Just wanted to tell you not to feel any shame about what happened. It can happen to any of us at one time or another, both in the hobby and without. Keep your head up and carry on. Tomorrow will bring another day with new chances of meeting someone more deserving of your attention.

Take care,

C. N.

[QUOTE=Pipefittah808; 1321256]Ok here is my topic of shame.

I was helping a provider, getting her stuff when she needed it, taking her around, emergency pick ups, even hanging out when possible. Even picked her up and dropped her off for a date (in the process getting cockblocked for my own appointment). Guess you could say there was feelings involved on my side because I though she was letting me in (I did see her at her lowest point and helped her through it). So got the feelings shot down. Thats fine, I can move on from that. Then got disrespected as a friend, ditched after giving her a ride to a friends (basically, ade like I wasnt there so I left) , then now won't answer calls or texts. Don't think I deserved that part, especially after I tried to help.

Now as a customer all I would want is my appointments kept. Just as all of you. I tried to play both roles, friend and customer. But after this last slap in the face realized that it doesn't work that way. Especially with one with no concience, no heart. Lets just say lesson learned, a ho is a ho, back to treating them as such. Not disrespecting them or beating on them or anything like that. More like just go there, do my thing, pay my fee, and leave. None of this ya ill help you out or ya lets hang out sometime. This a business for sex and once the sex is done the business is done. Just like going to work and not bringing it home, I won't bring home any feelings except the feeling of empty balls.

Guess now I'm free to look elsewhere as my promise to only see her (as I was getting bb services) is now void. Foolish of me to think that it was anything more then client / provider interaction when it came time for the whats in this for me part. Hope this serves as a lesson to all, don't get caught up with emotions in this game. You out looking for sex, not a girlfriend. Its easy to get caught up, trust me.

Pm for details.

Oh and miss provider. You know who you are and if you happen to read this then don't worry your darkest secret is safe. If you want to make ammends your the one that has to call me, good luck with your life and take care.

This brings the end of my walk of shame, sorry if this is a little too personal but hey this does happen and I had to vent it out.[/QUOTE]Don't worry bra, we have all been there. The important thing to remember is to learn from your experience and don't let it happen a second time.