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[QUOTE=MajorSlowCum; 1688582]Got a FS provider at a local AMP. Will trade detailed info for following:
1send me a very petite FS contact.
Or.
2send me an India FS or massage contact.
Or.
3send me a pantyhose wearing sweetie's contact.
Any of the three will get you the info.
Thanks[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Carolina Dream;1689073]I've been to VIP a half dozen times and only left unhappy once, left slightly more than happy 1 time, but have never left after FS. I have generously offered gifts of at least $.0 but haven't been able to get even dreams with BJ. Not sure what I've missed, but do I need to lay out a raincoat in addition to the gift? A couple of my visits have been slightly better dreams than others. I just haven't figured out how to set the alarm clock to wake up properly.[/QUOTE]I don't know what I do or don't do, but I'm batting 1000 at VIP. I guess I'm very non-threatening and friendly. That might help.
Sir Walter
[QUOTE=NC Wanderer; 1689837]The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women. It is not a barter community.
NC.[/QUOTE]You're absolutely right, but based on a few of his posts I'm guessing that he, like many other members who post, has been bombarded with pms from guys who have little to no posts but are essentially asking for the keys to the kingdom. Although I am a huge fan of sharing with other senior members gratis, especially those who I know have similar tastes to mine, I can understand the reluctance of some guys to share their gems for free.
[QUOTE=SirWalter; 1690073]I don't know what I do or don't do, but I'm batting 1000 at VIP. I guess I'm very non-threatening and friendly. That might help.
Sir Walter[/QUOTE]$.0 is not enough for FS. $.2- $.4 should do the trick
Went by VIP the other day, rang doorbell and a friendly but very old lady pops up to the side window, asks me if I've been before (I said no) , and said pricing is. 8 for 40 mins but I have to come back in 30 or 40 mins because she has a customer.
I didn't return that day.
I hope this was the mamasan and not representative of the age range of ladies inside?
Anyway, did I do the wrong thing saying I had not been before or is it really typical for them to tell you to come back later? This was like midday on a weekday.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1690107]You're absolutely right, but based on a few of his posts I'm guessing that he, like many other members who post, has been bombarded with pms from guys who have little to no posts but are essentially asking for the keys to the kingdom. Although I am a huge fan of sharing with other senior members gratis, especially those who I know have similar tastes to mine, I can understand the reluctance of some guys to share their gems for free.[/QUOTE]I've had more than one good provider run off by rude and questionable members or lurkers after I posted a review.
[QUOTE=Joe Looking;1690107]You're absolutely right, but based on a few of his posts I'm guessing that he, like many other members who post, has been bombarded with pms from guys who have little to no posts but are essentially asking for the keys to the kingdom. Although I am a huge fan of sharing with other senior members gratis, especially those who I know have similar tastes to mine, I can understand the reluctance of some guys to share their gems for free.[/QUOTE]I'd like to see just one post from a senior member that has actually received a gem from this guy.
Sorry, don't feel comfortable giving that info out openly on forum for reasons other have stated. Also when I receive private messages from guys with less than 30 posts am hesitant to give out info. Try to do right by these gals so will only give out based on number of post and general tone of their post. For example informative vs argumentative or ad posting for their working girl. For those that are sincere hobbyists who treat these ladies very well will be glad to share.
I can understand if you have a personal connection with a provider and maybe the relationship has evolved into more than a business / hobbist role or you believe the provider is new or young and needs to be protected from questionable characters.
My approach is if the provider has decided to pursue this as a profession, they are like most businesses for profit and the best form of advertising is word of mouth or recommendation by satisfied customers. The cool thing about this approach is it works both ways, if for some reason the services are sub-par, then it can hurt their business if the word get's out from other customers, free enterprise works here too.
One of the reasons I entered into the hobby, is the hunt and finding the illusive gem that turns into an incredible experience. I have and will see a provider more than once, but life is short and there are so many opportunities, shapes, sizes and personalities I have yet to meet. If every guy was satisfied with the status quo, there would be less providers.
Obviously, we all have different things motivating us into the hobby, but unless you provide no feedback / reviews it would be difficult to know who is rude or questionable. I am sure there are senior members that fit into both of these descriptions.
It is like protecting a fox from another fox, just because a senior member says so, does not make it reality, IMHO.
[QUOTE=Beeev;1690311]I've had more than one good provider run off by rude and questionable members or lurkers after I posted a review.[/QUOTE]
I'm starting to lose track of them all. There are now 4 within 5 minutes of each other in Cary.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-asian-massage-just-open-cary-919-388-8889/11497150[/url]
[QUOTE=MajorSlowCum; 1688582]Got a FS provider at a local AMP. Will trade detailed info for following:
1send me a very petite FS contact.
Or.
2send me an India FS or massage contact.
Or.
3send me a pantyhose wearing sweetie's contact.
Any of the three will get you the info.
Thanks[/QUOTE]I don't understand you dude. This has to be the fourth or fifth different time that you have pulled this crap. Why do you even post about these women if you keep all the information to yourself? How does this lady feel about what you are doing? Does she mind the loss of potential funds while you barter her off for your fantasies?
Just something for you to think about.
Have fun and be safe.
Raider
I saw some mixed reviews, but most of the recent comments said happiness would be found at Sofia's place of business on Maynard in Cary. Having only one night in town and a few minutes for research (evening opened up unexpectedly) , I should've been more skeptical. Last guest of the night, opted for 4 hands, as I always wanted to try that. Really lousy rub, nothing to it at all. Not squeamish about half-hearted draping, though, or inner thighs and full glutes, but nothing more than a slight tease of a dream. Have to make your own dreams come true. Was I missing something from people's comments?
[QUOTE=Jamescl;1691119]I saw some mixed reviews, but most of the recent comments said happiness would be found at Sofia's place of business on Maynard in Cary. Having only one night in town and a few minutes for research (evening opened up unexpectedly) , I should've been more skeptical. Last guest of the night, opted for 4 hands, as I always wanted to try that. Really lousy rub, nothing to it at all. Not squeamish about half-hearted draping, though, or inner thighs and full glutes, but nothing more than a slight tease of a dream. Have to make your own dreams come true. Was I missing something from people's comments?[/QUOTE]I admit I haven't seen her, but I doubt any of the ladies working at a "legitimate" spa would be willing to help you leave happy while their coworker is in the room helping give a massage. Try her one on one.
[QUOTE=Raider1963; 1691086]I don't understand you dude. This has to be the fourth or fifth different time that you have pulled this crap. Why do you even post about these women if you keep all the information to yourself? How does this lady feel about what you are doing? Does she mind the loss of potential funds while you barter her off for your fantasies?
Just something for you to think about.
Have fun and be safe.
Raider[/QUOTE]Exactly. I'm actually quite surprised that other "senior members" haven't called him out because it's quite obvious. That's why I asked for just ONE senior member to confirm a positive "PM" exchange with this guy that resulted in what he was advertising. I'm still waiting for it. Until then, I believe he's full of it, quite frankly. If I see anything that suggests otherwise, I'll eat crow and share my sincerest apologies.
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[QUOTE=JeezLizard; 1690191]Went by VIP the other day, rang doorbell and a friendly but very old lady pops up to the side window, asks me if I've been before (I said no) , and said pricing is. 8 for 40 mins but I have to come back in 30 or 40 mins because she has a customer.
I didn't return that day.
I hope this was the mamasan and not representative of the age range of ladies inside?
Anyway, did I do the wrong thing saying I had not been before or is it really typical for them to tell you to come back later? This was like midday on a weekday.[/QUOTE]Surely someone could answer these questions?
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;1692655]Surely someone could answer these questions?[/QUOTE]Reply yes that you've been there before. If they ask when say it's been a long time. Also, it's 45 minutes for $80.
[QUOTE=Ncchillen;1693057]Reply yes that you've been there before. If they ask when say it's been a long time. Also, it's 45 minutes for $80.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the response. Guess that's where I went wrong. So they don't even open the door if you say you've never been? Also is the old one typical of what I see inside or does it get better?
[QUOTE=JeezLizard;1692655]Surely someone could answer these questions?[/QUOTE]There is a seperate Thread for the VIP which will answer all your questions in detail.
[QUOTE=Jimjim77;1693257]There is a seperate Thread for the VIP which will answer all your questions in detail.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the info and sorry for overlooking that. My resolution is set at 1200 vertical, so with the browser maximized those bottom threads were not visible (and the blue border that coincidentally lined the bottom made it look like bottom of page.
[QUOTE=Dl6969; 1683862]FS at VIP, really? I've been 4-5 times over the last year and while I've always left happy I've never been given even a hint that FS was a possibility.
Any advise on what to say / ask or how best to approach the FS topic? Thanks in advance![/QUOTE]Thanks to the advise of a wise senior member I was able to order off the full menu during my visit today to VIP. Anna took incredible care of me and for sure I'll be smiling all weekend 8).
[QUOTE=Jamescl;1691119]I saw some mixed reviews, but most of the recent comments said happiness would be found at Sofia's place of business on Maynard in Cary. Having only one night in town and a few minutes for research (evening opened up unexpectedly) , I should've been more skeptical. Last guest of the night, opted for 4 hands, as I always wanted to try that. Really lousy rub, nothing to it at all. Not squeamish about half-hearted draping, though, or inner thighs and full glutes, but nothing more than a slight tease of a dream. Have to make your own dreams come true. Was I missing something from people's comments?[/QUOTE]Based on the same recent reviews I stopped by to see Sofia a couple day ago. I called ahead and asked for an appt w / Sofia. Upon arrival Sofia greeted me very sweetly and lead me to the room. I got comfortable and when she returned she informed me that she had somebody else to massage me and that she would take care of me next time. The gal I drew was not much to look at but gave an incredible massage. Lots of attention to my butt and inner thighs, w / many "incidental" brushes of my boys and even some nice contact w / the soldier. But in the end I didn't leave happy. Sofia said as I was leaving that she'd take good care of me next time and gave me a little kiss, but considering my experience it's unlikely that I'll return.
[QUOTE=Pmondore;1686671]I'll never understand the self-service massage coupled with the full service table shower format. Too bad as it is a good location.[/QUOTE]Same experience for me at Salon Studio in Cary. Jennifer who unfortunately is no longer there would always take very good care of me during the TS. My guess is places like this prefer to provide that service during the TS for easy cleanup. Plus the TS area tends to be a bit more private in my experiences.
[QUOTE=JoelB; 1670708]I've gotten a massage from Lucy at Yucca. Trying to figure out if I should see Sophie at Maynard or Genny.
How do Sophie and Genny compare to Lucy in the following areas:
1. Quality of massage. Looking for a good, deep massage.
2. Quality of sensual massage.
3. Attractiveness.
Thanks for any info you can share.[/QUOTE]I didn't end up having any luck w / Sofia when I stopped by earlier this week. And I haven't seen Genny yet (tho I do intend to soon) so can't comment there. However I'm very curious about your experiences w / Lucy as I've been considering giving that place a try. Specifically wrt her attractiveness and the likelihood of leaving happy?
Thanks
This made me laugh. Last Friday I just wanted a decent massage so I went to one of the Raleigh Chinese massage places where I had been before once upon a time seeking the elusive HE but never finding it. Skipped the TS because I was short on time and since I'd given up on anything beyond massage didn't see the point in paying .20 more for that since I was clean.
Randomly got a younger (probably late 20's early 30's) girl. When told to undress and get on the table I just left the drape towel on a nearby chair. She was nice and vaguely flirty which I more or less ignored. She complimented me a few times on my body ("nice body, you go to gym"- which I do but I'm not all that) and proceeded with a 7/10 massage. It was later in the day so I think she was using some different techniques than usual to save her strength for the day. More elbows and long rubs than the usual deep pressure. But it was pretty good. A lot of "close but not there" rubs on the inner thighs and plenty of glut work. She asked "is ok" many times and I complemented her on her work and made the perfunctory moans when appropriate.
The flip came with about 15 mins left in the session. She oiled me up pretty well and then jokingly engaged in a little nipple play- "ah nice" she says. She did drape me but I discarded it and showed her I was quite happy. She oiled around the target but not on it but was so flirty and smiley I figured "what the hell" and guided her hands to the right spot. She acted insincerely surprised and said "you been here before?" and I told her probably 5 times over the last two years. She has only been at this location for about 5 months. Then the "you tip good?" and asking me for my suggestion. .40 was not enough so we went to .70 after thumbs up suggestions. Very specific about cash tip.
The remaining 10 minutes were pleasant but nothing extraordinary. Just some good hand work with limited roaming available. Did manage to get to a nipple but only after insisting it might speed things along.
Also whispered "you keep between us, ok?" Um, ok. So I'm going to respect that agreement for the time being. Sorry guys.
So the lesson learned is when you least expect it, you might get it. I'm not certain the price justifies the service but that's your call. The one hour basic massage was .70 I also suspect this may be a "side matter" where the extras are not reported or know by the management.
This post has been on the BP board two times now. I am quite sure it is from one of the local Chinese MPs. I also think I may know which establishment posted it, not sure. I totally understand why they are posting this message. I have probably been to every establishment in the area multiple times. I choose not to post explicit details simply because the Chinese places are legit massage establishments. This does not mean you can not leave happy. I can say that 99% of the time I do leave happy and also get a great massage. Like I said I do not post much about what happens and with whom; however, I glady exhange tidbits with a few "trusted" members by PM.
I have previously posted that the management of these establishments monitor these sites. If they find out a gal is giving extras she has a "high probability of getting fired". If not getting fired she will certainly be told that "she better be very careful" AND if she's caught she will get terminated. They do not want to become like the Korean AMPs accross the USA."pay to play establishments". So they will not get themselves entrapped in a potential sting. In my visits to these establishments I also have never been quoted "a price" to get "special additional services". That seldom happens. You simply tip what you feel is appropriate like any other service. I can also tell you that a bunch of you guys are "really cheap". If you tip well the therapist will want to see you all the time. In many cases level of service will improve too.
If you come on 'strong" and start asking for extras you can expect a big NO or 'sorry I can not do that". On one of my most recent visits I was told by one of my therapists that a customer immediately (when she walked in the massage room) asked her for a happy ending and how much! She told him No. He walked out. She also told me a guy immediatley started grabbing her ass and legs. She told him to cool it. He did not stop. She told him to leave! Here's the funny part I have seen her 3 times and had completely different experiences.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/tip-for-clients-getting-a-massage-please-read/11660045[/url]
As usual Asianflu is right on target. I have had very similar experiences and although I have not been to all the local AMPs, I have been to many of them. These girls have real massage skills, are usually good people, and are just trying to make a living and have a better life. Treat them nice and develop a relationship and you will do fine.
[QUOTE=Asianflu; 1711807]This post has been on the BP board two times now. I am quite sure it is from one of the local Chinese MPs. I also think I may know which establishment posted it, not sure. I totally understand why they are posting this message. I have probably been to every establishment in the area multiple times. I choose not to post explicit details simply because the Chinese places are legit massage establishments. This does not mean you can not leave happy. I can say that 99% of the time I do leave happy and also get a great massage. Like I said I do not post much about what happens and with whom; however, I glady exhange tidbits with a few "trusted" members by PM.
I have previously posted that the management of these establishments monitor these sites. If they find out a gal is giving extras she has a "high probability of getting fired". If not getting fired she will certainly be told that "she better be very careful" AND if she's caught she will get terminated. They do not want to become like the Korean AMPs accross the USA."pay to play establishments". So they will not get themselves entrapped in a potential sting. In my visits to these establishments I also have never been quoted "a price" to get "special additional services". That seldom happens. You simply tip what you feel is appropriate like any other service. I can also tell you that a bunch of you guys are "really cheap". If you tip well the therapist will want to see you all the time. In many cases level of service will improve too.
If you come on 'strong" and start asking for extras you can expect a big NO or 'sorry I can not do that". On one of my most recent visits I was told by one of my therapists that a customer immediately (when she walked in the massage room) asked her for a happy ending and how much! She told him No. He walked out. She also told me a guy immediatley started grabbing her ass and legs. She told him to cool it. He did not stop. She told him to leave! Here's the funny part I have seen her 3 times and had completely different experiences.
[url]http://raleigh.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/tip-for-clients-getting-a-massage-please-read/11660045[/url][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Jimjim77;1711838]As usual Asianflu is right on target. I have had very similar experiences and although I have not been to all the local AMPs, I have been to many of them. These girls have real massage skills, are usually good people, and are just trying to make a living and have a better life. Treat them nice and develop a relationship and you will do fine.[/QUOTE]I started that and leaving happy. Develop relationship key point.
[QUOTE=Watk5399;1711843]I started that and leaving happy. Develop relationship key point.[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Jimjim77;1711838]As usual Asianflu is right on target. I have had very similar experiences and although I have not been to all the local AMPs, I have been to many of them. These girls have real massage skills, are usually good people, and are just trying to make a living and have a better life. Treat them nice and develop a relationship and you will do fine.[/QUOTE]Building relationships is the key. Not only that, as JimJim77 said there are really some nice gals trying just trying to better themselves. They are also willing to engage in conversation (and most really enjoy trying to improve their English skills). I know one gal I met after she'd been here only 5 months. She knew minimal English. She's now here nearly one year and there's a significant improvement in both comprehension and communication. BTW I probably should have said I have visited nearly all MPs rather than all of them-I exaggerated just a bit! I think I may have missed two of them.
Here is my latest compilation. It is only for Chinese AMPs and does not include any others. I think it's complete (or close). Additions with address and telephone number are welcome. Others have been mentioned but I have been unable to locate them.
1) Superrelax Chinese Spa 2223 J highway NC 54 Durham NC 27713 919-248-9000.
2) Massage Atsu Cary 102-L Commonwealth Court Cary NC (919) 388-8889.
3) Superrelax Chinese Star &Therapy 7313 Six forks Road Raleigh NC. (919) 844-7776.
4) Yucca 1110 Buck Jones Road, Ste: 110. Raleigh NC (919) 741-6820 (reported closed)
5) Orient Salon 24 SW Maynard Road, # A Cary. NC 27511 (919) 741-4072.
6) Apex Massage Spa 5623 Duraleigh Road, Suite 131. (919) 781 4888.
7) Asian Body Massage & Therapy 919-8781666 3672 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27604.
8) Oriental Body Massage 6320 Capital Blvd, Raleigh, NC 27616 (919) 871-3117.
9) China Spa 919-872-2223 3601 Capital blvd#111 Raleigh NC 27604 919-872-2223.
10) Asian Massage 1373 SE Maynard Road, Cary NC 27511. 919-741-6078.
11) STUDIO SALON MASSAGE 922 NE Maynard Road Cary NC 27513 919-388-1177.
12 Massage Atsu Garner 40 East Exit 312 Garner NC (919) 329-0090.
13) Emily Massage 3601 Capital Blvd. Unit 111 Raleigh NC (919) 872-2223.
Numbers 1, 3 appear to be the same ownership and also have many AMPs in other cities including Charlotte and Greensboro.
Numbers 4 and 5 same ownership.
Numbers 2, 6, and 12 seem to have related or same ownership.
Numbers 7 and 8 seem to have the same or related ownership.
[QUOTE=Jimjim77;1712113]12 Massage Atsu Garner 40 East Exit 312 Garner NC (919) 329-0090.[/QUOTE]This is the closest to me. I may visit. Anyone been to this one?
[QUOTE=Asianflu;1711999]Building relationships is the key. Not only that, as JimJim77 said there are really some nice gals trying just trying to better themselves. They are also willing to engage in conversation (and most really enjoy trying to improve their English skills). I know one gal I met after she'd been here only 5 months. She knew minimal English. She's now here nearly one year and there's a significant improvement in both comprehension and communication. BTW I probably should have said I have visited nearly all MPs rather than all of them-I exaggerated just a bit! I think I may have missed two of them.[/QUOTE]Sir Asianflu,
I appreciate the great advice and have taken the steps to put your advice to use. I know it may take time, but I feel that the payoff will be worth it. I have had my limit of questionable neighborhoods, extended stay dumps, and feeling like I need to burn my clothes in case I picked up bedbugs. I believe this may be a good change.
Raider
Has anyone been there yet? I keep seeing it on BP, but haven't heard anything here about it.
[QUOTE=Raider1963; 1712766]Sir Asianflu,
I appreciate the great advice and have taken the steps to put your advice to use. I know it may take time, but I feel that the payoff will be worth it. I have had my limit of questionable neighborhoods, extended stay dumps, and feeling like I need to burn my clothes in case I picked up bedbugs. I believe this may be a good change.
Raider[/QUOTE]Best thing about the AMP is exactly what Raider says. Its safe and secure. With the lack of decent independent rub girls out there, I tend to think places like VIP are shining stars. They will cost a few bucks more but never have I had a sketchy experience
Anyone know about magic touch in Franklinton?
[QUOTE=Rocky999;1712971]Anyone know about magic touch in Franklinton?[/QUOTE]Look at the Durham Massage Parlor Reports for info.
[QUOTE=Harry Bush;1713553]Look at the Durham Massage Parlor Reports for info.[/QUOTE]There's a discussion on page 4 on this board also.
Went there today.
She said that she had a customer just before me, but he had to go early.
So if he come back next time she is not going to charge him house fee.
So, if you're a that guy go back and enjoy it.
252-541-1335
[QUOTE=Skooby;1712699]This is the closest to me. I may visit. Anyone been to this one?[/QUOTE]Went to Massage Atsu in Garner today. Great massage & an ok table shower but as hard as I tried that was all I could get. Rates were. 7 for the massage and. 2 for the table shower. The place is pretty new & in a kinda remote area (but closer to me than any of the other AMP's) so maybe after they have been open for awhile things will losen up. There was a man working the desk when I went.
[QUOTE=Watk5399;1713818]There's a discussion on page 4 on this board also.[/QUOTE]Thanks guys. I guess I won't be wasting my time there.