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[QUOTE=XCoreFlyUp2021;7475060]True. There isn't one that match girl like Faithsummers anymore.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more with you guys. The new stable is so bad. FaithSummers, along with a handful of others, were so incredible. I keep shooting my shot with the SAG crew and have been disappointed 100% of the time.
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[QUOTE=MagicPanda;7476491]The booker only posts pics if the girl is active and will take the pics down when the girl isn't active. There's no specific website / account to see the lineup, that's why we have this thread. But you will know which girl is under this booker based on the name of the girl and the format of the ad. They're all very similar. Typical rate is 200-240 hh /300-340 h depending on the girl.[/QUOTE]I'm assuming the booker posts the girls active on HX? If so can someone share the booker's HX account name? I looked up Enclave but nothing came up.
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The SAG crew? You mean South American Girls? Never heard anyone else refer to them as such before. SAG in OC context typically means SweetAsianGem, a booker for k-girls.
Once the booker lost the apartments, it all went downhill fast. Ironically, the dude who started this whole thread played a big role in that, IMO. A real pity.
[QUOTE=Pollarizing;7476560]I couldn't agree more with you guys. The new stable is so bad. FaithSummers, along with a handful of others, were so incredible. I keep shooting my shot with the SAG crew and have been disappointed 100% of the time.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=BrainLara;7476721]The SAG crew? You mean South American Girls? Never heard anyone else refer to them as such before. SAG in OC context typically means SweetAsianGem, a booker for k-girls.
Once the booker lost the apartments, it all went downhill fast. Ironically, the dude who started this whole thread played a big role in that, IMO. A real pity.[/QUOTE]I didn't know SAG was an Asian booker. I was just suggesting they be named something else because they are far from the service, looks, of the old Enclave. Also I'm low key concerned because these girls are imported that there might be a small % of ICE involvement at some point and an unlucky monger gets busted as well. Just stating a concern.
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Uh oh
[QUOTE=BrainLara;7476721]The SAG crew? You mean South American Girls? Never heard anyone else refer to them as such before. SAG in OC context typically means SweetAsianGem, a booker for k-girls.
Once the booker lost the apartments, it all went downhill fast. Ironically, the dude who started this whole thread played a big role in that, IMO. A real pity.[/QUOTE]What's the story behind that? Why'd he contribute to them losing the apts?
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[QUOTE=HXFan67;7476801]I didn't know SAG was an Asian booker. I was just suggesting they be named something else because they are far from the service, looks, of the old Enclave. Also I'm low key concerned because these girls are imported that there might be a small % of ICE involvement at some point and an unlucky monger gets busted as well. Just stating a concern.[/QUOTE]ICE don't go after hot latinas, you must of missed the Thicc Latina Executive Order!
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[QUOTE=FingerLicking;7475339]I always wondered how he convinced them to do it. Some of them were unbelievably hot and I was shocked they were providing. I am guessing he is having issues because of OF.[/QUOTE]He recruited them off of sugar sites. South American Girls means more profit to the houses since they get paid less percentage, even K orgs are using Latinas.
[URL]https://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?38017-Latina-Women-at-Khouses[/URL]
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[QUOTE=HXFan67;7473795]Other than girls getting rebranded, I think after over a year since they left enclave the group needs rebranding as well. How about SAG squad. South American Girls.
Enclave had great college type girls, GND types that offered GFE and spoke English, girls were not transactional for the most part. , and some of my best memories on Hx were with Enclave. So far with the SAG squad its been all opposite from above. I have gambled and seen like 7 SAG girls and always leave dissapointed.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Pollarizing;7476560]I couldn't agree more with you guys. The new stable is so bad. FaithSummers, along with a handful of others, were so incredible. I keep shooting my shot with the SAG crew and have been disappointed 100% of the time.[/QUOTE]Let's not try renaming the group. It's the enclave group. Yes the new girls are terrible but oh well. And yes the start of this thread and a specific post by the guy who started it coincided with them leaving the apartments. There's a non zero chance that post and this thread are responsible for them having to leave.
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In the early days of this thread, he put up a post outing the address of every single private location the booker was using at the time. He took down the post a few days later, but the damage was already done. A prime example of overzealous stupidity.
[QUOTE=JohnTheDodger;7477277]What's the story behind that? Why'd he contribute to them losing the apts?[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=HoeWhisperer;7477641]Yes the new girls are terrible but oh well.[/QUOTE]I didn't see too many girls from before. They were consistently young and hot but weren't always great. I didn't even know they were all from the same booker. I remember meeting one that was wasted and took a long time to open the door. I believed she passed out after round one and I just left without a second pop. In another case one freaked out when I asked for msog even though it was on the menu and kicked me out.
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[QUOTE=BrainLara;7477779]In the early days of this thread, he put up a post outing the address of every single private location the booker was using at the time. He took down the post a few days later, but the damage was already done. A prime example of overzealous stupidity.[/QUOTE]It might be a factor, but I doubt it's a significant one since the Enclave group is still very active. If you understand the difference in earnings between South American girls and US girls, you'll likely find your answer. The average South American earns around $1,500 annually. South American girls would be demanding a lot less compared to an American.
[blue]I live in S America, trust me when I tell you that these girls know the pay scale in the US and Europe.
I cannot tell you how many regulars I lost after they worked abroad for 3 months.
A2[/blue]
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Price
I'm relatively new to the Hx scene but not new to the game. I'm not sure about the past line-up and how it relates to the current. But I guarantee it's hard for the booker to recruit American girls at 2020 and prior prices. Inflation happens. Prices here are best you can get for decent looking young girls. As one girl told me, in Venezuela, 1 hour working here is worth working 1 month there. Obviously I'm not advocating for increased prices but it probably affects the available supply.
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[QUOTE=FingerLicking;7478004]I didn't see too many girls from before. They were consistently young and hot but weren't always great. I didn't even know they were all from the same booker. I remember meeting one that was wasted and took a long time to open the door. I believed she passed out after round one and I just left without a second pop. In another case one freaked out when I asked for msog even though it was on the menu and kicked me out.[/QUOTE]You're completely right. Most of the pre-Latina era girls were flat out bad. However there were always a few absolute gems. Most guys don't know about them because no one said anything about them until they were long gone or just never said anything at all. But there was always a chance you'd find a gem if you took a chance. These Latinas are all the same more or less. All of them are experienced pros. Same mechanical and cold service. TaliaTen is the best one I've come across and she was just slightly above average.
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[QUOTE=TnaStylez;7478092]It might be a factor, but I doubt it's a significant one since the Enclave group is still very active. If you understand the difference in earnings between South American girls and US girls, you'll likely find your answer. The average South American earns around $1,500 annually. South American girls would be demanding a lot less compared to an American.
[blue]I live in S America, trust me when I tell you that these girls know the pay scale in the US and Europe.
I cannot tell you how many regulars I lost after they worked abroad for 3 months.
A2[/blue][/QUOTE]Now I understand what Moses must have felt when God told him to free his people lmao. So do these touring girls stop providing when they return home because they got spoiled by US wages?
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[QUOTE=OCanon;7478121]I'm relatively new to the Hx scene but not new to the game. I'm not sure about the past line-up and how it relates to the current. But I guarantee it's hard for the booker to recruit American girls at 2020 and prior prices. Inflation happens. Prices here are best you can get for decent looking young girls. As one girl told me, in Venezuela, 1 hour working here is worth working 1 month there. Obviously I'm not advocating for increased prices but it probably affects the available supply.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the insight! Let's keep it real prior to 2020 80% of the HX girls had "management" if they were not with an agency. The stricter Cali laws may be a factor as well.
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[QUOTE=HoeWhisperer;7478221]You're completely right. Most of the pre-Latina era girls were flat out bad. However there were always a few absolute gems. Most guys don't know about them because no one said anything about them until they were long gone or just never said anything at all. But there was always a chance you'd find a gem if you took a chance. These Latinas are all the same more or less. All of them are experienced pros. Same mechanical and cold service. TaliaTen is the best one I've come across and she was just slightly above average.[/QUOTE]Yeah that's what made them good even though they were bad. They were not pros.
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KaylaniSwan
New girl alert.
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/KaylaniSwan[/URL]
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Are you a shill?
[QUOTE=XCoreFlyUp2021;7484346]New girl alert.
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/KaylaniSwan[/URL][/QUOTE]No network.
No pictures. Even when subscribed.
Why the hell would you promote someone that's unproven & might be ugly. Or a guy?
What am I missing?
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[QUOTE=Taws6;7484859]No network.
No pictures. Even when subscribed.
Why the hell would you promote someone that's unproven & might be ugly. Or a guy?
What am I missing?[/QUOTE]I got the donation rate message. It is the usual format. Thought someone like to be the first guy.
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[QUOTE=Taws6;7484859]No network.
No pictures. Even when subscribed.
Why the hell would you promote someone that's unproven & might be ugly. Or a guy?
What am I missing?[/QUOTE]No pics because the ad was down. I didn't see the pics, but that's how that booker works. Just letting you know.
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How does this help?
[QUOTE=XCoreFlyUp2021;7484346]New girl alert.
[URL]https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/KaylaniSwan[/URL][/QUOTE]There are 10's of girls that join HX weekly. Doesn't mean every new profile should be posted here unless there is any info. To share. Pretty pointless.
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Latina Girls
[QUOTE=HoeWhisperer;7478221]You're completely right. Most of the pre-Latina era girls were flat out bad. However there were always a few absolute gems. Most guys don't know about them because no one said anything about them until they were long gone or just never said anything at all. But there was always a chance you'd find a gem if you took a chance. These Latinas are all the same more or less. All of them are experienced pros. Same mechanical and cold service. TaliaTen is the best one I've come across and she was just slightly above average.[/QUOTE]Although, some may be hot, I typically avoid the latina girls w / SCP as in my experience, they tend to be not fans of DFK.
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[QUOTE=Taws6;7484859]No network.
No pictures. Even when subscribed.
Why the hell would you promote someone that's unproven & might be ugly. Or a guy?
What am I missing?[/QUOTE]It's crazy that she already has over 400 guys subscribing to her profile. Doesn't make any sense.
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[QUOTE=Taws6;7484859]No network.
No pictures. Even when subscribed.
Why the hell would you promote someone that's unproven & might be ugly. Or a guy?
What am I missing?[/QUOTE]They literally all start like this. Sometimes on the first day regulars get dibs with no photos, and then it opens up with posted pics. Relax.
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[QUOTE=TheZorak;7487533]They literally all start like this. Sometimes on the first day regulars get dibs with no photos, and then it opens up with posted pics. Relax.[/QUOTE]This is true.
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TinyZoey
TinyZoey is DestinyGrace rebranded. Same boring person who finds sex painful and unappealing.
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[QUOTE=AliasIncognito;7489556]TinyZoey is DestinyGrace rebranded. Same boring person who finds sex painful and unappealing.[/QUOTE]Thank you for heads-up. I did love her body. Tight little waist and great boobs on her frame. Still inclined to repeat despite lackluster service.
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[QUOTE=OCanon;7490954]Thank you for heads-up. I did love her body. Tight little waist and great boobs on her frame. Still inclined to repeat despite lackluster service.[/QUOTE]So, let's just say you forego intercourse then. Is what else you can get from her worth the value? And the price is?
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[QUOTE=FarFarAway;7491103]So, let's just say you forego intercourse then. Is what else you can get from her worth the value? And the price is?[/QUOTE]Probably not the girl for you. She's cool but low key. You need to initiate conversation. We talked about recreational drugs and trippy moments and her tattoos. Think she is / was in the 200-250/ hhr. Range.
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[QUOTE=AliasIncognito;7489556]TinyZoey is DestinyGrace rebranded. Same boring person who finds sex painful and unappealing.[/QUOTE]She was indeed terrible when I saw her a few years back. I couldn't in good conscience recommend anyone see her. Pretty girl but can't hide the fact she hates doing this at all.
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[QUOTE=AliasIncognito;7489556]TinyZoey is DestinyGrace rebranded. Same boring person who finds sex painful and unappealing.[/QUOTE]Maybe my dick is small but she seemed to like it. Did bare and nutted inside.
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[QUOTE=AliasIncognito;7489556]TinyZoey is DestinyGrace rebranded. Same boring person who finds sex painful and unappealing.[/QUOTE]She told me she had a miscarriage last July. I checked up on her at the wrong time. I lust her body. She doesn't really kiss but she was reported for CIM. I did notice that it was added to her menu. I don't think it was there before.
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[QUOTE=JamesD2004;7494205]She told me she had a miscarriage last July. I checked up on her at the wrong time. I lust her body. She doesn't really kiss but she was reported for CIM. I did notice that it was added to her menu. I don't think it was there before.[/QUOTE]She's always done CIM. Her only redeeming quality is that she seems to have no issue swallowing a load.
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[QUOTE=HoeWhisperer;7494548]She's always done CIM. Her only redeeming quality is that she seems to have no issue swallowing a load.[/QUOTE]I don't think it was written on her menu when she came out. She has at least two breaks now.
BTW, for her 1st tour, she told me she has the IUD put in, so she couldn't ride well, painful. Reflexively, I asked her if we could go bare. She shot me down. This is in response to the post that she did BBFSCIP. How much for that?
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[QUOTE=JamesD2004;7495327]I don't think it was written on her menu when she came out. She has at least two breaks now.
BTW, for her 1st tour, she told me she has the IUD put in, so she couldn't ride well, painful. Reflexively, I asked her if we could go bare. She shot me down. This is in response to the post that she did BBFSCIP. How much for that?[/QUOTE]She was always CIM. I saw her on first day as destinygrace. And cim waaalwaya on the menu. That made her repeatable for me. But after the first time it just went downhill in terms of service.
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SaoriSwan
SaoriSwan.
P: Pics 100% her.
L: No stats except half white / half Asian description. True. She's half thai to be exact. I'd guess she's mid-late 20's. In her prime. Body is smoke show for me. Super petite but very toned / athletic like the pics. Nice ass with just enough meat. Breasts are natural Bs but just a nice handful and proportional nipples. Legs are nicely toned. Body is 9/10 for me. Skin was olive tone. Was soft but could have been a little clearer. Face was a 7. Not DDG but attractive. She has a nice smile.
A: She's nice, easy going. A little introverted but she's pleasant to talk too.
S: Great for me. First, full English. She is new to this but is used to 'sugaring' so she actually is very sensual and just listens. She's a great companion in that regard. I'm usually a bang and bounce guy but I asked to extend my visit from 30 minutes to 1 hour after 5 minutes chatting. Onto the deed, she's very into it. LFK / DFK although caveat YMMV. Same with DATY. Did enjoy getting her excited. Worked all positions well. Loved smashing that ass in doggie but had more fun standing in side position where I could see her legs / ass while holding a handful of breast while seeing her face moan. Forgot to get a BBBJ to grade. Sorry. LOL.
E: $360/ hr. CFS ($260/ hhr).
Are: Oh yea. Hope she comes back soon. I dreamed about that tight little waist last night. Please treat her well fellas so she does.
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10 photos
Make Enclave Great Again
[QUOTE]Three years ago, Rob's girls were hot, cute, and knew what they were doing in terms of service. Now, they don't have the same hotness, pics are old / air brushed, and the. Real girl weighs 20 to 30 pounds more than described. 5 ft 2 in, 100 pounds is wayyy different from 135 or 140 pounds. The place is dirty. Like really dirty. The girls are pressed to move super-fast, and the girls are actually afraid of Rob. So many of them give me the low-down that he's mean to them, as well as fucking rude to clients. I've been sampling his selection for 4 years, and can say that it went from 5 stars to 2.5 in the last few months. Went from. Him being pretty chill to being quite abrupt and an all around jerk. Latest drama is that one girl physically threatened another girl over "missing money." Not sure how long this show will continue.
Sad, but all good things come to their logical end.[/QUOTE]Rob kept a Rolodex of reliable regular clients. He would text the proven spenders and give us the option of first dibs and right of first refusal. Hey Ace I got a new white girl thinking of starting on Hx. 19 brunette nice tits 105 pounds. Sending you her selfies taken today. Want to try her out?
At his prime, 90% of Rob's girls in that 2nd floor apartment are hot young white chicks like Kendra and Kylie. Like you said, those glory days are ancient history.
Enclave is now 90% Latinas.
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[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;7500852]Rob kept a Rolodex of reliable regular clients. He would text the proven spenders and give us the option of first dibs and right of first refusal. Hey Ace I got a new white girl thinking of starting on Hx. 19 brunette nice tits 105 pounds. Sending you her selfies taken today. Want to try her out?
At his prime, 90% of Rob's girls in that 2nd floor apartment are hot young white chicks like Kendra and Kylie. Like you said, those glory days are ancient history.
Enclave is now 90% Latinas.[/QUOTE]I'm pretty new and have found the enclave girls pretty hot. But my god nothing like the level in your pictures. I'm definitely on the MEGA train if he can bring that level of talent back.
Side note, any more pics of the water sports girl? Asking for a friend.
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SaoriSwan
Ocanon's review was spot on but here are a few more details.
P: Definitely her but that body is somehow looks better in person.
L: She's thai but has more of a Japanese GND look which explains the name. Objectively a 7 but 8 for me bc I dig that look and her vibe. Mid-late 20's and with just an insane natural body. Definition of fit with just enough to size in the breasts and booty department to grab in whatever position you're in.
E: Full english, born in CA and talks like it.
A: Real chill. If you grew up in southern california, she's got the same vibe as the chill, stoner girl friends you grew up with. I loved it.
S: LFK / DFK, BBBJ, DATY, CFS, CG, Mish and DG. 10/10 for me and she's very receptive for DATY. Go to town if you're a DATY fan like me. BBBJ was great but I'm relatively easy to please, I just ask for it to be toothless, show some effort and extra credit when a girl push themselves to choking and she did that a few times. Gold star! One thing to note is I'm more of a 60/40 when it comes to service, I like to give more than receive and that was my experience with her but I'm pretty sure she'll cater to whatever you want. Very open to anything I wanted to try.
E: $360/ hr. CFS ($260/ hhr).
Are: Good lord yes. Hard to explain but her vibe is peak for socal locals and I'd line up for that DATY any day.
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[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;7500852]Rob kept a Rolodex of reliable regular clients. He would text the proven spenders and give us the option of first dibs and right of first refusal. Hey Ace I got a new white girl thinking of starting on Hx. 19 brunette nice tits 105 pounds. Sending you her selfies taken today. Want to try her out?
At his prime, 90% of Rob's girls in that 2nd floor apartment are hot young white chicks like Kendra and Kylie. Like you said, those glory days are ancient history.
Enclave is now 90% Latinas.[/QUOTE]I must have banged over a dozen girls at that apt. Many great memories. Layla Larson was one of the hottest girls I have ever banged. Pretty and her body was smoking hot. Great tits and ass. Loved the 420. Vape then hit it. Kylie Maris. Cute face and nice natural tits and body. Throat was deep. Cum down it balls deep. Sara Smiles pretty and hot young body with large unique breasts. Sophie Greene had a slutty stripper look and would suck and suck.
I guess banging a bakers dozen of these girls wasn't enough to get on the VIP list.