Stupid Shit In San Diego

Man, recently started some new meds and now I can't seems to cum. And one else have experienced this problem? Went to see a provider and got to enjoy a nice long fuck. However, thr blue balls at the end really sucked.

[QUOTE=JitMarc;6380632]Man, recently started some new meds and now I can't seems to cum. And one else have experienced this problem? Went to see a provider and got to enjoy a nice long fuck. However, thr blue balls at the end really sucked.[/QUOTE]Are you sure it's the meds? I have a similar problem of having to much fun and it got to the point where I can't cum. I think it's the to much fun for me I think. It's harder for me to have a good orgasm. I used to have the best orgasm to pussy and used to cum a lot, my cum has decreased and I get soft while fucking I used to stay super hard and cum a lot.

[QUOTE=JitMarc;6380632]Man, recently started some new meds and now I can't seems to cum. And one else have experienced this problem? Went to see a provider and got to enjoy a nice long fuck. However, thr blue balls at the end really sucked.[/QUOTE]This happens to me if I've taken an Adderall that day. It helps a lot if you haven't cum in more than a day. If you're going to be taking this medication daily, whatever it is, you should try not to cum for a day or two before you spend time with your partner.

[QUOTE=RobXx7;6380666]Are you sure it's the meds? I have a similar problem of having to much fun and it got to the point where I can't cum. I think it's the to much fun for me I think. It's harder for me to have a good orgasm. I used to have the best orgasm to pussy and used to cum a lot, my cum has decreased and I get soft while fucking I used to stay super hard and cum a lot.[/QUOTE]I doubt it is the meds, although it could be. I'm 70, and happy I can still have fun with ladies. Now, however, I cannot cum with a condom anymore (it is still fun, though). And the volume has definitely decreased. So, selective BBFS works, or a very good BBBJ, and sometimes a good HJ. Part of it is the connection I feel with the provider, too. I'm very happy I'm still having fun. On my way to Spain in two weeks. Should be an interesting trip.

Thank you. I'm probably going to take a break for a little bit and see what happens. Hopefully, after some time away I can resume and enjoy myself again.

[QUOTE=JitMarc;6381802]Thank you. I'm probably going to take a break for a little bit and see what happens. Hopefully, after some time away I can resume and enjoy myself again.[/QUOTE]Try At Least 2 weeks that helped me. No jacking off bring back that sensation.

[QUOTE=JitMarc;6380632]Man, recently started some new meds and now I can't seems to cum. And one else have experienced this problem? Went to see a provider and got to enjoy a nice long fuck. However, thr blue balls at the end really sucked.[/QUOTE]I'm 65 years old and have been having the same problem for the past few years. The solutions are a caring and patient provider and lots of foreplay, being well rested, and relaxed. I don't find that holding off on sex for any period of time really helps. It sucks to get old.

I had to get circumcised a couple of years ago, in my mid 50's. Apart from being painful af afterwards for weeks, now I find it's very hard to cum with a condom, and bare I cum quite fast. And I used to give facials to be proud of but now it's barely a dribble, my ATF is sad.

This is getting kinda funny with the old timers calling out their own performance. I'll join the chorus.

Early 50's and have a hard time cum with a condom, bare is absolutely phenomenal. I've had too many anxious / nervous / sketchy encounters over the years that resulted in boner failure, so viagra is a must. Volume has decreased significantly.

I usually bring a 004 ultra thin condom and the provider has always been cool with that. Now, if I'm fucking with a condom and if I feel the urge to cum I don't hold back, regardless of whether I paid for a QV or hhr / hr. Holding back to get more pussy is great when it works but, usually, if I suppress the initial urge to cum it can be hard to get back to that apex again and often results in mission failure.

There seems to be a catch with the 004 condoms though. If the provider puts it on it stays in place during sex, but if I put it on it usually breaks, and I can feel the difference immediately. At that point I don't look down or change positions so the provider isn't aware of breakage and I finish as quick as possible.

[QUOTE=Lascivious;6351389]I hate seeing so many deletions in the Massage forum. I don't get out nearly as much as many other mongers but I've been through the VIP era and now 108.

VIP lived up to the hype in my experience. 108 is great. They don't need any extra BS hype. They let you see a lineup and always have a lot of pretty good to great choices. It would be a shame if they get banned here.

I've joked about them never offering a discount for giving good reviews. These guys getting deleted have given me a lot of good intel.

We don't need another spa go the way of the other lucky number spa.[/QUOTE]Is VIP even called that still? I think they took the sign down and just left a lot of cheap window dressing. I hope we are talking about the same place next to the smoke shop on Campo. BTW the roof that is connected to the smoke shop has drywall that does not run up all the way. So they can hear what's going on. Which is stupid because there are rooms on the east and west side, and they always provide on the west side next to the shop. Oh well. The artist formerly known as VIP is still pretty good, all young girls in their 20's and early 30's, but nothing spectacular lately. I'll take a 7 that really knows what they are doing and gets into it over a 9 that is a fish.

[QUOTE=UCBaja2;6383105]This is getting kinda funny with the old timers calling out their own performance. I'll join the chorus.

Early 50's and have a hard time cum with a condom, bare is absolutely phenomenal. I've had too many anxious / nervous / sketchy encounters over the years that resulted in boner failure, so viagra is a must. Volume has decreased significantly.

I usually bring a 004 ultra thin condom and the provider has always been cool with that. Now, if I'm fucking with a condom and if I feel the urge to cum I don't hold back, regardless of whether I paid for a QV or hhr / hr. Holding back to get more pussy is great when it works but, usually, if I suppress the initial urge to cum it can be hard to get back to that apex again and often results in mission failure.

There seems to be a catch with the 004 condoms though. If the provider puts it on it stays in place during sex, but if I put it on it usually breaks, and I can feel the difference immediately. At that point I don't look down or change positions so the provider isn't aware of breakage and I finish as quick as possible.[/QUOTE]Hang in there youngsters, I just turned 80 and can still get over the line with the right TLC. Sometimes it's a little hit or miss but always fun.

Good to hear there's hope. I'm about 20 years behind you. Viagra has done wonders for my performance and confidence. I've sometimes wondered how long I'll keep going with the hobby. Just today I saw someone who told me I needed to bring my own rubbers because I was "too big" for the standard house issue. It was the vitamin V doing it's job. My advice: if this is really important experiment with supplements, diet and exercise. There are a ton of resources online. And be patient with yourself. Women are well aware of the body clock ticking. Us guys less so. You don't have to age out of this. You just have to adapt.

[QUOTE=Lovable;6384375]Hang in there youngsters, I just turned 80 and can still get over the line with the right TLC. Sometimes it's a little hit or miss but always fun.[/QUOTE]

I checked out the old VIP many months ago after the owner and cohort that we all loved moved on. Didn't see any younger talent but I got the distinct impression that all was on the table. I've not been back since. As for the relationship with the smoke shop, an impeccable source told me that freebies were offered in exchange for a certain amount of tolerance related to the activities in the old VIP.

[QUOTE=RichJ8991;6383444]Is VIP even called that still? I think they took the sign down and just left a lot of cheap window dressing. I hope we are talking about the same place next to the smoke shop on Campo. BTW the roof that is connected to the smoke shop has drywall that does not run up all the way. So they can hear what's going on. Which is stupid because there are rooms on the east and west side, and they always provide on the west side next to the shop. Oh well. The artist formerly known as VIP is still pretty good, all young girls in their 20's and early 30's, but nothing spectacular lately. I'll take a 7 that really knows what they are doing and gets into it over a 9 that is a fish.[/QUOTE]

Definitely hang in there, and keep plowing along. I'm not quite there chronologically, but I can see it down the road.

Few years back had a "performance" issue that worried me. Had to go on the wagon with a strict diet for a while for medical reasons. Low and behold, something came alive again and has been fine since. Of course the good diet and serious exercise helps too, but I think cutting out the booze for a while helped. Don't know how much anyone drinks, but I really love my craft beer.

I also found finding the right provider who really turns me on influences my stiffness, quality of orgasm, and the cum volume. Have tried Vit "V" but found the right girl worked better than medical chemistry. If she is hot and does it right, it is great.

Another thing a fellow monger told me, which I really have not tried yet, was to spark your hormones up with porn before you visit a provider. I'm a fairly horny guy, so have I not tried this specifically, but it make sense to show up horny to assist arousal. Just a thought to share.

As for condoms. I bring my own. If I put it on, I wipe off Jr. So he's not slippery wet, and I make sure to leave room in tip for expansion, thrusting, and the load that's sure to come.

So far the only one's I've broken were the house condoms, which is why I always bring my own.

[QUOTE=UCBaja2;6383105]This is getting kinda funny with the old timers calling out their own performance. I'll join the chorus.

Early 50's and have a hard time cum with a condom, bare is absolutely phenomenal. I've had too many anxious / nervous / sketchy encounters over the years that resulted in boner failure, so viagra is a must. Volume has decreased significantly.

I usually bring a 004 ultra thin condom and the provider has always been cool with that. Now, if I'm fucking with a condom and if I feel the urge to cum I don't hold back, regardless of whether I paid for a QV or hhr / hr. Holding back to get more pussy is great when it works but, usually, if I suppress the initial urge to cum it can be hard to get back to that apex again and often results in mission failure.

There seems to be a catch with the 004 condoms though. If the provider puts it on it stays in place during sex, but if I put it on it usually breaks, and I can feel the difference immediately. At that point I don't look down or change positions so the provider isn't aware of breakage and I finish as quick as possible.[/QUOTE]

Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;6410103]Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]My thoughts are this for sure fits into the "stupid shit in San Diego" category.

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;6410103]Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]All of the above is clearly about as "effective" as "faith-healing", and practiced by people with the same level of intelligence that "believe" in THAT CRAP!

[QUOTE=ArtVandalayy;6410245]My thoughts are this for sure fits into the "stupid shit in San Diego" category.[/QUOTE]I'm just imagining where this could lead. Programming neuron energy could lead to many uncurable illnesses ceasing to exist. Think about it. I he can program neurons to not react a certain way then, things like mental illness and body self harm would logically be curable vs a life of pills and therapy.

At least he's not saying it was a miracle like everyone else.

If you want us to respond with our "thoughts" on that topic give us enough intelligent information to form a realistic opinion.

Your example falls into the "okay, anything is possible category" but you have not told us how he did it, and demonstrated it working. You seeing a claimed result just isn't enough evidence to qualify as proof.

That is similar to saying my friend discovered the way to travel the speed of light (although current scientific evidence says that is not possible) and claim you saw him do it, and end the statement there.

Okay, intelligently lay out how he can do it, then consistently show us him doing it, and provide everything needed for others to demonstrate they can do it using his methods.

Then it becomes repeatable scientific information that reaches beyond opinion, feelings, and personal information from non-experts. Just my thoughts.

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;6410103]Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;6410103]Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?[/QUOTE]I have a magnetic bracelet that will improve your bloodflow / circulation for $20.

[QUOTE=Tendancer;6382934]I had to get circumcised a couple of years ago, in my mid 50's. Apart from being painful af afterwards for weeks, now I find it's very hard to cum with a condom, and bare I cum quite fast. And I used to give facials to be proud of but now it's barely a dribble, my ATF is sad.[/QUOTE]You could try an 'Adjustable Urethral Sounding Dilator Stretcher' (Google it).

My friend has developed a cure for a flaccid Penis, its called an awesome blow job by a beautiful Asian woman.

He has a cure for work, it's called play.

He has a cure for boredom, it's called entertainment.

He has cure for insomnia, it's called hard strenuous work, or an alternative, an exhausting work out.

He has a cure for people posting stupid shit, it's called the ignore button.

He really does, I saw it.

Unfortunately he has not yet developed the cure for crazy, stupid, or ignorant, but I know he's working on them.

Any thoughts?

[QUOTE=MaximusKahn;6411262]If you want us to respond with our "thoughts" on that topic give us enough intelligent information to form a realistic opinion.

Your example falls into the "okay, anything is possible category" but you have not told us how he did it, and demonstrated it working. You seeing a claimed result just isn't enough evidence to qualify as proof.

That is similar to saying my friend discovered the way to travel the speed of light (although current scientific evidence says that is not possible) and claim you saw him do it, and end the statement there.

Okay, intelligently lay out how he can do it, then consistently show us him doing it, and provide everything needed for others to demonstrate they can do it using his methods.

Then it becomes repeatable scientific information that reaches beyond opinion, feelings, and personal information from non-experts. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]Witnessed:

Experiment 1: Allergies: Using Methid to prevent formation of Hemorrhoids.

For a year, he turned on his food allergies. Repeatable symptoms: Rectal Bleeding and Hemorrhoids after consumption. During 4/2023's experiment, he did the same routine as always but, after rerouting and dishcharging neuron synaptic energy, no symptoms were present. 2. He then, consumed higher amounts of allergens such as wheat, dairy, etc. No symptoms present. 3. He then caused open tears and inserting excrement into the rectal tears. No symptoms present.

Experiment 2: Drug and Substance Addiction: For a year, subject indulged in addictive substances to the point of consuming overdose levels. Using his methods, subject hasn't had any relapses, or displayed any symptoms associated with quiting cold turkey or seen with modern rehab methods. 5 years ago, same subject suffered from relapse and rehab side effects seen in modern substance users.

Experiment 3: Allergic Rhinitis and Hay Fever.

Subject has 10+ years of allergic reaction to pollens and pet fur. Symptoms: Larynx swelling, congested sinuses, consistent mucus running, hoarse throat, vocal fold soarness and bleeding. Subject displayed no symptoms to allergen at beginning of experiment. After reactivating allergies, subject displayed typical symptoms. After turning allergies off, all symptoms ceased.

There's many more experiments actually. People think it was supernatural miracles or that he has magical powers. Not claiming he doesn't but, obviously this method he has is highly advanced knowledge. Problems:

1. Our technology is too primitive: He's talking about encoding energy as a storage medium vs solid matter. We don't even know how to store information in DNA molecules yet. Storing infor in DNA is the big thing now. This guy is so advanced, he's programming individual neurons and their synapeses.

Unlike others who give up because of modern science's limitations, he's attempting to develop a more primitive version of his concepts. I saw his math and scientific method. The characters and symbols seem to be from another dimension or some advanced alien civilization. Using modern math as an example, I couldn't even get real or possibly real sum. It just looked like really advanced concepts. Which makes sense because he's basically rewritting synaptic functions. Do you understand how many neurons a brain has? BILLIONS or Trillions.

I'm a scientist and a skeptic. However, I don't disparage supernatural claims. I just believe supernatural claims are unexplained scientific phenom we don't have technology to understand yet. A better example would be: My friend can travel faster than light. He keeps bringing strange unexplainable metals back. We don't have the scientific capabilities to comprehend how but, he's repeatedly bringing metals back which don't exist in our solar system.

[QUOTE=Reds101;6411274]I have a magnetic bracelet that will improve your bloodflow / circulation for $20.[/QUOTE]That's great. His methods require no external factors. He just uses the body's own natural energy.

[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6410405]All of the above is clearly about as "effective" as "faith-healing", and practiced by people with the same level of intelligence that "believe" in THAT CRAP![/QUOTE]Read my reply to MaximusKahn. There are many demonstrable experiments.

[QUOTE=Tendancer;6382934]I had to get circumcised a couple of years ago, in my mid 50's. Apart from being painful af afterwards for weeks, now I find it's very hard to cum with a condom, and bare I cum quite fast. And I used to give facials to be proud of but now it's barely a dribble, my ATF is sad.[/QUOTE]I feel for you. They at least let me choose to get cut or not. I had a botched circumcision which resulted in scarring. I just decided to keep it natural. If I ever practice my traditions again, technically I did try and had a bad result. Plus, you get to enjoy sex more if you have the skin. Now my penis can be easily cleaned since the skin keeping the penis connected is torn off but csn be sheathed.

[QUOTE=ReyKittyHawk;6412207]My friend has developed a cure for a flaccid Penis, its called an awesome blow job by a beautiful Asian woman.

He has a cure for work, it's called play.

He has a cure for boredom, it's called entertainment.

He has cure for insomnia, it's called hard strenuous work, or an alternative, an exhausting work out.

He has a cure for people posting stupid shit, it's called the ignore button.

He really does, I saw it.

Unfortunately he has not yet developed the cure for crazy, stupid, or ignorant, but I know he's working on them.[/QUOTE]You're describing normally functioning people. A leader like you would ruin people's lives. Your logic is similar to, "just add duct tape. " You clearly have no understanding of how defects can alter bodies.

Basically, a drug addict's body has been altered at such a micro level that simply quitting cold turkey often sends the body into shock subconsciously and can result in long term ramifications. People like you are the reason why cures Europe and Asian countries have keep getting pestered when touching English soil. I'm not disparaging you just trying to fix your logic. Saying, just put a banaid on it doesn't help people with serious problems. Most people can't quit cold turkey. It's medically advised not to. Long-term binge drinkers often experience seizures and stroke during their first week of quitting. This is why we have rehab LOL. You can seriously get screwed up just by quitting but, with your logic: All you need to do is be a man and tough it out.

Even though alcohol has fundamentally changed your physiology at a microcosm.

IDK the veracity of this.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/blacksbeach/comments/12ozmei/mod_post_there_will_be_a_law_enforcement_crack/[/URL]

I will say I have seen lifeguards running up and down the beach not in uniform. The tell tale is they have walkie talkies. FWIW, I would rather have a beach with a really laid back atmosphere where hotties feel comfortable sunbathing, someone can discretely have a drink (but not get drunk and start fights,) and one can take a dip in the ocean au natural as they say. Wether or not if there is a crackdown, I hope this beach does not go the way of San Onofre.

Come on, guys and girls, lets not fuck this up. The beach is long and deep. If you want to drink, or get frisky with someone walk way North away from the main trail (the one near the glider port) between the second trail (at the end of the parking lot) and find a comfortable spot away from everyone. If you really want perverted privacy go even further North beyond the second trail.

Don't do it between the main trail down and the Volley ball nets, this is the common area most families might go and is most crowded. Don't do it around or near the volley ball courts, this is where the nudists, and naturalists go. They are the ones who like to pretend they don't notice pussies, cocks, and hard bodies. And they will confront you for jerking off or being drunk or lewd.

Don't go south, this is where the surfers go, and they will think you are creepy in every way.

If you want to suck, fuck, jerk and drink, expect to hike far to a secluded spot well beyond the Volley Ball courts.

Walk North, find a secluded and quiet spot away from everyone, and stay alert. Be ready to stop any action and cover up, and conceal your drinks. Be fucking discrete for god sakes.

The problems is the pervs and drunks want to be around other people. Yea we know you want to see as many naked people as you can. But this is counter productive, and will get your behavior reported, and possibly ticketed. Imagine a ticket of lewd and indecent behavior on your record? Of even just public intoxication? Or both?

I'd be lying if I said I never got frisky or enjoyed a beverage or two on Black's beach. I have, and I've had my share of fun. But I do it in such a way nobody objects, complains, or sees a need to report my behavior. Really, unless you come sit by me, most can't even tell what I'm up to with my friends, but we stay clear of the crowds too. And we are discrete, we don't act like anything goes.

If you want to see more nudity, go for a walk along the beach and scout the scenes. Then go back to your spot and enjoy yourself away from concerned citizens and lifeguards.

I do appreciate this post because I'm use to keeping an eye out for the Lifeguard Truck cruising back and forth, now I have to watch out for walkers in plain clothes too.

But when you walk north far enough, and are way back on the beach far from the waves, it's real easy to see anyone coming your way for a long way off.

Lets not fuck this one up, because it is a STATE BEACH that tolerates nudity and can stop tolerating it in a heart beat on the whim of one politician responding to complaints.

[QUOTE=NudeBeachPerv;6417771]IDK the veracity of this.

[URL]https://www.reddit.com/r/blacksbeach/comments/12ozmei/mod_post_there_will_be_a_law_enforcement_crack/[/URL]

I will say I have seen lifeguards running up and down the beach not in uniform. The tell tale is they have walkie talkies. FWIW, I would rather have a beach with a really laid back atmosphere where hotties feel comfortable sunbathing, someone can discretely have a drink (but not get drunk and start fights,) and one can take a dip in the ocean au natural as they say. Wether or not if there is a crackdown, I hope this beach does not go the way of San Onofre.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=SukijoSeiwaka;6412261]You're describing normally functioning people. A leader like you would ruin people's lives. Your logic is similar to, "just add duct tape. " You clearly have no understanding of how defects can alter bodies.

Basically, a drug addict's body has been altered at such a micro level that simply quitting cold turkey often sends the body into shock subconsciously and can result in long term ramifications. People like you are the reason why cures Europe and Asian countries have keep getting pestered when touching English soil. I'm not disparaging you just trying to fix your logic. Saying, just put a banaid on it doesn't help people with serious problems. Most people can't quit cold turkey. It's medically advised not to. Long-term binge drinkers often experience seizures and stroke during their first week of quitting. This is why we have rehab LOL. You can seriously get screwed up just by quitting but, with your logic: All you need to do is be a man and tough it out.

Even though alcohol has fundamentally changed your physiology at a microcosm.[/QUOTE]People CAN and DO QUIT ADDICTIONS all the time! Ever hear of people quitting their "nicotine" (tobacco smoking) addiction? Guess how most of them do it? That is right, COLD TURKEY! Yes, there are dangers to quitting some drugs like alcohol and benzodiazapines. Medical supervision, and medication withdrawals MAY be in order. But a person that really wants to quit and STAY QUIT from an addictive substance can do it with NO "relapse requirement" at all. I once had a client that said if she put HALF as much mental effort into staying off her "stuff" as she did into "scoring it" and ingesting it, then being and remaining clean would be as easy as breathing. Make a decision and stick to it. It IS that simple!

[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6418498]People CAN and DO QUIT ADDICTIONS all the time! Ever hear of people quitting their "nicotine" (tobacco smoking) addiction? Guess how most of them do it? That is right, COLD TURKEY! Yes, there are dangers to quitting some drugs like alcohol and benzodiazapines. Medical supervision, and medication withdrawals MAY be in order. But a person that really wants to quit and STAY QUIT from an addictive substance can do it with NO "relapse requirement" at all. I once had a client that said if she put HALF as much mental effort into staying off her "stuff" as she did into "scoring it" and ingesting it, then being and remaining clean would be as easy as breathing. Make a decision and stick to it. It IS that simple![/QUOTE]I've been sober for over 40 years and I'm telling you this is just some stupid "just say no" Nancy Reagan shit. Addiction, all addiction, love, dope, smoking, gambling, ect is ENOURMOUSLY difficult to overcome, that's why so many fucking people try and try and try and try and fail and fail and fail and fucking die, and then along comes an asshole that says "just make a decision. ".

You just made everybody in the room dumber. I wish I was allowed to use the ignore button I swear to fucking god I wish I could.

A2.

So by your logic, all the people that relapse time and time again, or their bodies fight back or even quit on then, are all just weak-willed /-minded and didn't really want to be free of an addiction that's impacting their lives?

I guess this is the most appropriate part of the forums for that sort of post.

[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6418498]People CAN and DO QUIT ADDICTIONS all the time! Ever hear of people quitting their "nicotine" (tobacco smoking) addiction? Guess how most of them do it? That is right, COLD TURKEY! Yes, there are dangers to quitting some drugs like alcohol and benzodiazapines. Medical supervision, and medication withdrawals MAY be in order. But a person that really wants to quit and STAY QUIT from an addictive substance can do it with NO "relapse requirement" at all. I once had a client that said if she put HALF as much mental effort into staying off her "stuff" as she did into "scoring it" and ingesting it, then being and remaining clean would be as easy as breathing. Make a decision and stick to it. It IS that simple![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MongJuanSilver;6418761]So by your logic, all the people that relapse time and time again, or their bodies fight back or even quit on then, are all just weak-willed /-minded and didn't really want to be free of an addiction that's impacting their lives?

I guess this is the most appropriate part of the forums for that sort of post.[/QUOTE]Can you name even one instance where you have seen a person with an active substance addiction get "Forced" to used the substance? (breaking news: substances cannot force anyone to acquire or ingest them-since they are inanimate objects and do not make decisions! So, who does that leave? The substance use investor! The ingestor decides to acquire and ingest the substance! Not the other way around! Believe any substance is somehow "More powerful than the ingestor of it" more than warrants that perspective being under this topic's title! There is no more stupid perspective then some idiot substance user that thinks "I can't stop! "The drug is more powerful then I am!" jesus. Those brainwastes deserve immediate doses of the highest lethality of fentanyl to rid their idiocy off the planet!

I was halfway through a lengthy response, and even had some medical resources for you to peruse, before I realized it would 99% be a waste of time. Short version: thank the gods you're not in the medical field.

[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6419779]Can you name even one instance where you have seen a person with an active substance addiction get "Forced" to used the substance? (breaking news: substances cannot force anyone to acquire or ingest them-since they are inanimate objects and do not make decisions! So, who does that leave? The substance use investor! The ingestor decides to acquire and ingest the substance! Not the other way around! Believe any substance is somehow "More powerful than the ingestor of it" more than warrants that perspective being under this topic's title! There is no more stupid perspective then some idiot substance user that thinks "I can't stop! "The drug is more powerful then I am!" jesus. Those brainwastes deserve immediate doses of the highest lethality of fentanyl to rid their idiocy off the planet![/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6419779]Can you name even one instance where you have seen a person with an active substance addiction get "Forced" to used the substance? (breaking news: substances cannot force anyone to acquire or ingest them-since they are inanimate objects and do not make decisions! So, who does that leave? The substance use investor! The ingestor decides to acquire and ingest the substance! Not the other way around! Believe any substance is somehow "More powerful than the ingestor of it" more than warrants that perspective being under this topic's title! There is no more stupid perspective then some idiot substance user that thinks "I can't stop! "The drug is more powerful then I am!" jesus. Those brainwastes deserve immediate doses of the highest lethality of fentanyl to rid their idiocy off the planet![/QUOTE]Oh you are just so smart. I am going to have to write down all of these useful insights so I can quote you properly. You stay away from that fentanyl now.

[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6419779]Can you name even one instance where you have seen a person with an active substance addiction get "Forced" to used the substance? (breaking news: substances cannot force anyone to acquire or ingest them-since they are inanimate objects and do not make decisions! So, who does that leave? The substance use investor! The ingestor decides to acquire and ingest the substance! Not the other way around! Believe any substance is somehow "More powerful than the ingestor of it" more than warrants that perspective being under this topic's title! There is no more stupid perspective then some idiot substance user that thinks "I can't stop! "The drug is more powerful then I am!" jesus. Those brainwastes deserve immediate doses of the highest lethality of fentanyl to rid their idiocy off the planet![/QUOTE]Yall are arguing different issues. Physical addiction is curable. I have never heard of anyone having withdrawals ten years after quitting. Emotional addictions are for life. Sugar is a good example. We know heart disease is the main cause of death in America, and we also know obesity is one of the main causes. Why are some of the most strongest, most respected etc. People overweight? They know they just have to eat healthier or quit sugar but most can't. Once you know what it tastes like you always know what tastes like. It's the same reason so many vegans eat "fake meat".

People can become addicted to any sensation, good or bad that they either find desirable, or just expect.

Substance abuse or the thrill of something that gives a high or good feeling that is desirable and longed for is the most common. Drugs, gambling, success, SEX, winning, even violence and abusive behavior towards others.

Even bad feelings that they come to "expect" can be addicting. Like the girl who seeks bad boys who treat her like crap, because that is what she is use to, and assumes that is what is supposed to be.

People are multi layered creatures. We can want things not good for us, and and do things that damage or hinder our success. True addictions are not an open "choice" but a compulsion to find the desired experience provided by the stimuli. Emotional, psychological, physical, social, layers all come into it.

If you have an addictive personality, it can be something you have to battle your entire life, no matter what your logical mind wants, or believes or knows what it should and should not do.

A true addiction, is a chronic relapse disease. Don't' believe me? Look it up.

There is NO MEDICAL PROOF that shows that ANY "addiction" (whether to a liquid, solid, gas, or activity!) meets the criteria for "disease" that gets taught in ANY and all accredited American Medical Schools in the USA! Not ONE Iota of evidence or scientifically proved connection! If someone was to prove it, they would win a Nobel Prize in Medicine for it. I have worked in the addiction treatment field for over 20 years, and cannot even find an MD that can make the connection between "addiction" and "disease". Saying it "is" does NOT make it so. Nor does echoing it because others have since the nonsense of "12 Steppism" was excreted into print in 1939! There is ZERO involuntary acquisition of ANY "addiction"! You know what IS a disease-INVOLUNTARILY ACQUIRED MEDICAL CONDITIONS! Like COVID, CANCER, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, MENTAL ILLNESS, PARKINSONS's, etc. Please name how ANYONE involuntarily afflicted with THOSE CONDITIONS "choose" them-as they CHOOSE a liquid, solid, gas or activity to destroy themselves around! Additionally, there is NO SUCH THING as an "addictive personality" (it ain't in the DSM-5 as a "psychologically diagnosable condition" People who believe in the bullshit of "addictive personality" are nothing more then those who WILL NOT take responsibility for what they willingly, knowingly, and voluntarily do to themselves, or made a career out of doing! Addiction as a "disease"? BULLSHIT! "Addictive Personality"? DOUBLE-BULLSHIT!

[QUOTE=ReyKittyHawk;6427636]People can become addicted to any sensation, good or bad that they either find desirable, or just expect.

Substance abuse or the thrill of something that gives a high or good feeling that is desirable and longed for is the most common. Drugs, gambling, success, SEX, winning, even violence and abusive behavior towards others.

Even bad feelings that they come to "expect" can be addicting. Like the girl who seeks bad boys who treat her like crap, because that is what she is use to, and assumes that is what is supposed to be.

People are multi layered creatures. We can want things not good for us, and and do things that damage or hinder our success. True addictions are not an open "choice" but a compulsion to find the desired experience provided by the stimuli. Emotional, psychological, physical, social, layers all come into it.

If you have an addictive personality, it can be something you have to battle your entire life, no matter what your logical mind wants, or believes or knows what it should and should not do.

A true addiction, is a chronic relapse disease. Don't' believe me? Look it up.[/QUOTE]

You don't know what you are talking about, there is at least 30 years of medical proof.

Here's some of the most recent.

"As a result of scientific research, we know that addiction is a medical disorder that affects the brain and changes behavior. We have identified many of the biological and environmental risk factors and are beginning to search for the genetic variations that contribute to the development and progression of the disorder. Scientists use this knowledge to develop effective prevention and treatment approaches that reduce the toll drug use takes on individuals, families, and communities. ".

See where it says Biological risk factors and genetic variations? That means medicine, real differences between your body and an addicts body.

I know citing actual science will do nothing to change your mind, you are convinced that the shit in your brain is true, my audience is the rest of the people being exposed to your bullshit here not you.

[URL]https://nida.nih.gov/publications/drugs-brains-behavior-science-addiction/preface[/URL]

You know where you said you can't find an MD that will make a connection between disease and and addiction.

Nora D. Volkow, M. D.

Director.

National Institute on Drug Abuse.

There's one right there.

The DSM V literally defines 11 different types of substance disorders.

You literally make everybody dumber when you open your mouth. This is too easy, it's like arguing with a flat earth person.

Have a nice day.

A2.

[QUOTE=Sudcciv;6428255]There is NO MEDICAL PROOF that shows that ANY "addiction" (whether to a liquid, solid, gas, or activity!) meets the criteria for "disease" that gets taught in ANY and all accredited American Medical Schools in the USA! Not ONE Iota of evidence or scientifically proved connection! If someone was to prove it, they would win a Nobel Prize in Medicine for it. I have worked in the addiction treatment field for over 20 years, and cannot even find an MD that can make the connection between "addiction" and "disease". Saying it "is" does NOT make it so. Nor does echoing it because others have since the nonsense of "12 Steppism" was excreted into print in 1939! There is ZERO involuntary acquisition of ANY "addiction"! You know what IS a disease-INVOLUNTARILY ACQUIRED MEDICAL CONDITIONS! Like COVID, CANCER, HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE, MENTAL ILLNESS, PARKINSONS's, etc. Please name how ANYONE involuntarily afflicted with THOSE CONDITIONS "choose" them-as they CHOOSE a liquid, solid, gas or activity to destroy themselves around! Additionally, there is NO SUCH THING as an "addictive personality" (it ain't in the DSM-5 as a "psychologically diagnosable condition" People who believe in the bullshit of "addictive personality" are nothing more then those who WILL NOT take responsibility for what they willingly, knowingly, and voluntarily do to themselves, or made a career out of doing! Addiction as a "disease"? BULLSHIT! "Addictive Personality"? DOUBLE-BULLSHIT![/QUOTE]

Anyone else thinking about how much money you've spent on escorts. Never kept a running count but now I'm curious.