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Did anyone else notice the stratiegically placed MPD Officers this morning in the K Street area? They were everywhere, parked, and obiviously there to deter any of the devious criminal behavior associated with SW's. Not a girl to be found, ANYWHERE. Obviously they aer succeeding. This is going to be a bad summer if they don't lighten up.
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Hey guys, in case you didn't know, Escort Summer Breeze got beaten up pretty badly by someone.
http://www.wusatv9.com/news/news_article.asp?storyid=20261
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URGENT!!!!
Hey guys,
I need some url's for excellent agencies for outcall in the downtown area.
Please help.
Thanks.
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Any body ran into a BSW (very light skinned, about 5'5, sand blond hair) name Diamond. Any info on working area would be much appriciated.
Also a few months a go I meet WSW named Sunshine (beautiful brunette, about 5'6, very cute face a solid 8-8.5, tongue ring,flat stomach. She left the area for a few months. Well, I was cruising downtown last week and she is back. She is amazing. When I meet her a while a go, she gave me bbj twice for 60 pesos each and she made me wanna leave home I swear. She was so good she should be band from the streets for fera of making somebody leave home, she is a home recker, I mean it. Happy hunting.
Romeo
P.S. Any info on Diamond would be appreciated , thanks
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Urgent URL requester. Suggest that you check out other sites that specialize in the erotic review as that site provides good details on the girls as well as web sites.
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Watch out for Sting Operation in DC. I saw this on www.foxdc.com.
54 Busted in Solicitation Sting
(7/13/03 - Washington) — Fifty-four men got more than what they bargained for this weekend in Southeast Washington. The men were arrested for solicitation during a 6 p.m. to 4 a.m. sting operation that ended yesterday in the Congress Heights area. D.C. police say the men were nabbed when they propositioned female officers disguised as prostitutes.
Some of the men also face drug charges. Police say the sting is part of an ongoing operation to combat problems with prostitution and related crimes in the neighborhood.
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Couple of news items for everyone:
Escort Summer Breeze, who I knew about only by reputation, died of her injuries. No announcement of whether or not her death has been ruled a homicide, but the police are apparently going through her client list for potential clues.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A40939-2003Jul10.html
Major crackdown on SW scene in northeast.
http://www.nbc4.com/news/2329051/detail.html
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Yet another strip club inquiry--yeah, I know that not everyone here is into the clubs, if so just ignore this.
As an experiment, I offered to buy a drink for a dancer at Royal Palace last week. The apparent mama-san/waitress quoted me a drink price of $15. My questions:
1) Can you get away with ordering a drink for yourself and then giving it to the dancer? Or is buying a $15 drink the only way to have a dancer sit with you?
2) Has anyone gotten more than casual contact by buying a dancer a drink (it's not necessary to name the dancer or even the club, if you're uncomfortable)? Did you have to offer a substantial tip over and above the drink price (either to the house or the dancer)?
Any impressions greatly appreciated.
Roman
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Looked at the article that Roman posted...they gave this info as the location of the sting "2500 block of 25th Street and the 900 block of Southern Avenue". I am not a DC guy so I dont know where this is, I looked on Mapquest and couldnt really tell where it would be. Is this one of the spots mentioned on the board ?
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Hey Guys,
last Night i went to Sun Club yet again. This time they were a little busy. I had a girl called Jenni. She was very pretty. Her masasge was mediore, her body was very hot. To make a long stary short she could keep me hard and excited enough to climax. We went over our alloted time by15 minutes so that i could cum. However i didnt. At the end of the session i only paid her 40 dollars. At first i wasnt gonna give her anything but i felt like being nice. She got upset though and started telling me it wasnt fair what i was doing, she started talking about the Mamasan was gonna take her money and get mad at her.But i was like she didnt make me climax so i didnt think i should pay the full price.
Was i wrong??? Was i being a bastard. I dont know please give me your thoughts on this fellas.
I mean its her job to get you excited and horny so you can finish. But her technique was horrible. she based everything on her looks. I mean she is pretty but she needs to do work too.
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Karma,
I usually post on Georgia and SC boards, but I used to live in DC area and still frequent MD/VA/DC AMP's when I come up on business so that's the reason I like to monitor these boards. You asked for feedback and I am happy to give you my views.
I've been frequenting AMP's in this country and abroad since the early 70's and that will give you some idea of my age. In that time, I have naturally had similar experiences to the one which you described, i.e., could not get off. But I have never refused to pay a working girl what I promised to pay her.
First of all, depending on the environment, it could be dangerous and could cost you your life. Most of the time you will see only women in AMP's, but I can tell you that in some cases there is a man within easy hailing distance. Keep in mind that even though you are presumably in a licensed massage establishment, you are engaging in an illegal activity at a place where lots of money changes hands "under the table" so to say. Some of these places do get robbed and these people are not stupid. They are clever business people engaging in illegal activity. So there is always the potential for someone to lose their temper and for violence to break out. You have to ask yourself if you want to be involved in a scene like that.
Secondly, since you have paid this woman for an illegal service, you have no legal right to expect anything except a massage. So if there is trouble and LE shows up, are you going to say you paid X number of dollars so you could climax and did not do so?
Thirdly, these woman are human. and they are performing what has to be a distasteful act for them. Granted, you did not force them into the business. And granted, if they are doing a good job, they will give the illusion of enjoying the act as much as you hopefully will enjoy it. But everyone has good and bad days.
So in a nutshell, if the girl did not perform as you expected you just chalk it up to experience. You can complain to the mamasan and that is often more effective than you might think. But I really think it's bad mojo to cheat a working girl out of what you agreed to pay her.
LexLuther
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Hey Guys,
Going to be in DC today. I've read a lot in the DC board and is going to check one of the AMPs. Hope to have a good time and some info for the board in the next message.
Here I Am
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Toe Tapper
[i]If guys on this board are interested in details about escorts who are incredible in bed, let me know and I will provide...[/i][/QUOTE]Another good post TT!
Actually, I have had such poor or inconsistent service from escorts lately that I have been leaning to AMPS (consistent) and SWs (cheap). However, if you have intel that can help change that paradigm, that info would definately be appreciated. You have to remember, there are only about 20 regular posters on this board, so consistent and solid input from any one of them will have a strong influence on board content.
Feel free to BC me at dirtbag 667 at hotmail dot com (address fix required to reduce spam).
Hi Lex. I have to agree with your viewpoint on Karma's delima, sometimes we don't get what we want, but it is better to keep good relations with the mamasan, who can see that you receive extra care, or no care, the next time you visit. BTW - Karma, I have been following your posts about Sun Club with interest but can't find hard intel. I have two addresses, can you confirm if either is the right place:
SUN SPA
1829 M ST NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20036
(202) 887-1179
SUN VIP SPA
719 8TH ST SE
WASHINGTON, DC 20003
(202) 546-8410
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Frogger
[i]Subject: [b]Best AMP in DC[/b]
There used to be an AMP near Georgetown (MacArthur Boulevard)that I remembered being first rate.
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So far no one has mentioned this place and I don't want to post the name and address, for fear of exposure in this very public forum. I found it in the Post over a year ago. There is no name on the building, though there is a small name plate once you go up the inside stairs to the second floor.[/i][/QUOTE]Frogman,
First, welcome to WSG and thank you for sharing what you did, a good read. I would guess you are talking about a place called "Accu Fitness" but I may be wrong. The yellow page listing is:
ACCU FITNESS
4380 MACARTHUR BLVD NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20007
(202) 337-0151
Sorry if you think me an asshole for posting info you may consider secret, but this board is about sharing information and these places are in business. Yes, this is a public forum, but these places advertise in the paper, the yellow pages, and, IMHO, the LE knows about them anyway. Your description of services mimics those of any number of AMPs noted here almost daily. One more in the mix for us to use would hopefully reduce the pressure on the star performers at places that are hugely popular.
I can only hope you will reveal the "rest of the story" for others to enjoy. Feel free to backhannel me at address above.
Peace,
LoveLOS
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LoveLOS,
Thanks for the validation. As AMP lovers well know, the girls at these establishments don't often hang around very long. So even though we would like to, it's really hard to form a relationship with them. I think that may be one of many reasons that they move around so much. The management does not want the customers falling in love with the working girls. So as you say, you are smarter to try to form a relationship with the owner or mamasan.
I think it's a good idea (after maybe the second or third visit, to ask to speak to the mamasan. If I find a spa I like I usually do this. I tell the mamasan that I am or intend to become a frequent guest and how much I appreciate good service. It's also a good time to tell her that you don't intend to pay more than $100.00 for FS and that if you are dissatisfied with the service, you intend to let her know about it. It's all about being a responsible consumer.
LexLuther
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LEX,
You are definately right about the rotation factor. I wish there was a way to track them, but they have to be getting shipped off to another spa in another city because you never see them locally again and you know the $$ are good enough that they would find it difficult to quit the biz. The other problem is they are probably being sent back to Korea when the tourist visa expires.
I have never really spoken frankly with a mamasan as I have always felt they would prefer not to discuss openly what goes on in their establisment. Plausible deniability is the DC term here... I do like to do all the friendly gestures and thank you's to the mamasan as well as the provider.
DC has not been a challenge with the price inflation as it appears to be in Atlanta. I am refreshed to see some guys there holding the line at $100 FS tip. Just good business.
LoveLOS
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In regard to Karma's post, I agree 100% with LexLuther's comments. After you have an understanding with the AMP girl for certain services and services have been rendered, you need to pay for the services regardless of whether you finish or not. The girl has already done her part of the deal and you may not have been happy with it but chalk it up to experience and don't see her again. But refusing to pay her is just wrong and at the very least may get banned from that AMP. There are times when I have been less than happy with the service and/or attitude, but I have always shelled out the 100 in the end. If it happens with more than one girl in a particular AMP, just move on. If in the initial meeting you sense a bad attitude, you can always ask for another girl.
As for the rotation of the girls, I don't know the real reasons. The girls sometimes go back to Korea and other times move on to another AMP in other states. I have curious about how a AMP gets their girls. But there is a steady supply of fresh girls so I am not complaining.
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LoveLOS and LexLuther,
Thank you for your insight. It was very helpful.
LoveLOS : the one i went to is
SUN VIP SPA
719 8TH ST SE
WASHINGTON, DC 20003
(202) 546-8410
its right behind the MCI center parking garage, across the street from the club Insomnia. I think its of 6th street not 8th though. Hope this helps.
I have always found it to my best interest to make friends with the Mamsan and i have had an off and on relationship with a girl i met at a AMP.
I think i messed up big time too. Cause this girl (jenni) knew the girl i was messing with from the AMP. Before i left she mentioned that next time i should get her friend instead of her. Damn! I think I might have messed up pretty bad. But ill go there next time and talk to Mamsan about it. Honestly i think mamsan doesnt care too much about it becasue im a very good customer and i talk to her all the time.
I have been going there more often because the girl i was messing with works there now for some reason. I had initially met her at 1818 NY ave AMP. I think its called the Mini Health Club.
Remember Sophia.....from my post a long time ago....well thats the one. She is not Korean. She a mix between thia and chinese. she looks aaight but we get along really good. She was very down to earth and i liked that. Anyway!! its just another boring
story ill save for another time. Hopefully i didnt screw things up too bad.
Thanks for all your insight!!
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LoveLOS
[i]Another good post TT!
Frogman,
First, welcome to WSG and thank you for sharing what you did, a good read. I would guess you are talking about a place called "Accu Fitness" but I may be wrong. The yellow page listing is:
ACCU FITNESS
4380 MACARTHUR BLVD NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20007
(202) 337-0151[/i][/QUOTE]Ok, well you've got me on that. Accu Fitness is, in my opinion, the best AMP in DC. I've been there 5 or 6 times and I've always been treated to the best service and most attractive ladies. The reason for leaving out the address stemmed from not seeing any ads in the paper lately. Perhaps I'm also being selfish, as I never see anyone else around there. Nice and quiet! But, by all means, enjoy and support this great business.
Frogger
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Hey Guys,
My first post in DC board I guess. I kind a become regular in DE and Baltimore board. Was in the capital today for visa related work. So thought to check the AMP scene as I had lots a time to kill.
Thought I will go to Downtown. I messed up at the very first step as it was my first visit to that area , I went in my car. In a busy time like 2 pm I couldn't get an empty parking lot arround Vermont ave. So headed back and thought I'll try Supra. Again no parking. Parked at a paid parking place on 18th( had to pay $6, which is extra expense for guys like us who are used to free parking). Place was clean. I faced another problem here, which I didn't face before. When I was waiting at the 4th floor door after ringing the bell, another guy walked up. I kind a started feeling uneasy. There was no problem though, as we were professionally shown our rooms very fast. I missed a line up in this process, which I normally go for in every place. Got Sarah, 3-4 face, 4-5 body, 7-8 attitude. Got a so-so shower, and FS. Out with a candy ( literally ) in 50 minutes, and spent $160. Overall nice experience. Will try other places where in town again. Preferably Downtown as I keep seeing good report about the place.
Here I Am
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KarmaSX,
You are incorrect. The one across from MCI, where you went, is called Sun Club and it is at the corner of 7th and G NW. The address you posted is in SE, which as anyone who knows DC at all knows, is not the location of the MCI Center.
Hope that helps.
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I think Karma really means Sun Spa on M Street, N.W. It would be a considerable walk from the MCI Center to 8th Street, S.E.
Randy
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I have to give love and respect to Karma, X sailor, Diveman, and especally, (for his AMP listing), LoveLOS. I lifted straight off of all of your posts, for my adventure this weekend. If I do well it is all due to you guys, and I appreciate it. I will post when I get back as to what happened.
As always, take it...
Easy as 1-2-3
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LoveLOS on June 3rd
[i]Any information about location of this resource?
"Yes, tried Castle the other day around mid-afternoon. Located on 3rd floor. Only drawback is that on 2nd floor there is a hair salon with open windows into the stairway; therefore, you are in full view when arriving and leaving. Nice place, very clean and new. Met by mamasan and paid normal house fee for an hour. Met Yung, very enthusiastic and provide all the proper services. I would definitely return.
Castle Spa is off to a good start. Yung is an eager young professional who knows her business."[/i][/QUOTE]I'm happy to report that I tried out the Castle Spa on Tuesday at lunchtime and had great success, and that I can recommend this spa to my fellow mongers. Here's my 2-part report:
Location: Castle Spa is at 1716 I Street, NW (aka 'Eye' Street), just a half-block from the Farragut West stop on the Metro, in one of the few older low-rise buildings left in the neighborhood. The setup is similar to the Downtown Spa on Vermont, that is, there is no sign or anything on the ground floor to indicate that the Castle Spa even exists. There is only a sign for the hair salon on the second floor, where you are in full view when arriving and leaving, as LoveLOS has indicated. Just keep on climbing the steps to the 3rd floor (the top floor) and hit the buzzer by the unmarked door (although in my case, the mamasan had already opened the door as she could see me coming on the video camera). Anyone on the street who sees you enter/leave will think that you're going to get your hair cut, while most people inside the hair salon will probably not even notice you. Chances are the customers don't know what's upstairs, although the hair salon employees certainly do.
It looks a lot like Downtown on the inside, just slightly smaller and with less girls working (there seemed to be 3 girls on duty plus the mamasan).
Report: I had a Downtown-quality one-hour session with an attractive, flirty Korean girl in her late 20s named Jay - around 5'4", relatively thin, small but nice natural breasts. The usual nice table shower (with special washing attention given to my soldier which had decided to stand up), followed by a hard massage (no back-walking), then soft tingly fingers and slight tickles while I laid on my stomach, lots of oral attention to my ass, balls and uncovered soldier (except for the tip), then I turned over, the old condom in the mouth trick, CBJ while I enjoyed some DATY (which I rarely do at an AMP, and which I'm glad I did here) and good FS. No complaints at all - I would definitely go back again and ask for Jay again. Tariff was the usual $60 for an hour, plus 5 Jacksons as a thank-you tip (which she indicated I should place on the corner of the massage table rather than give to her).
I am happy to recommend this place as an alternative to Downtown, although the Downtown girls do seem to be younger and slightly better-looking than the girls I saw at Castle.
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Been back since army days since I went to a AMP, so easing into it, First Tanning Salon - 521 G St Nw is kinda close to where I work at so I was wondering if anyone had any reviews on it
(Im on page 16 so It might be in there someplace)
Also, whats the protcol if I just want a good handjob and a rub down?
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Oops, my bad,
I meant 6th and G, not 7th. It's on the corner, the door's on 6th, unmarked - just ring the bell.
[size=-2][u]EDITOR's NOTE[/u]: [blue]Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. [i]Thanks![/i][/blue][/size]
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A good week...
Lots of good reports this week. I will update my master AMP list later, but for the record:
Frogger gave us the good word on Accu Fitness, Thanks FROG! Addy in my post on 7/15 and Frog's on the 16th...
Karma gave us good intel on Sun Spa, execpt he is like me and cant make heads or tails of a DC address. The correct address seems to be:
SUN SPA
1829 M ST NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20036
(202) 887-1179
Mighty Spearguy gave an excellent report on Castle Spa (with addy). Thank you!
Alas, I was out in the boonies this week, but if you ever find yourself in the Waldorf Md area (or in Iowa for G*d's sake), my reports in those areas may be of value.
Xsailor, Food was excellent, didn't see any girls hanging around the restraunt or surrounding area. Waitress was nice and if the restraunt were in Bangkok rather than White Plains I would have been hitting on her... I too was ROFL about the foot fetish report...
Easy, enjoy the ride, whoever she may be...
LoveLOS
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Hmm, I think my philosophy is a little different from most here. I think Karma was in the green when he paid that girl 40 beans.
[i][b]Karma said, [/b]"I mean its her job to get you excited and horny so you can finish. But her technique was horrible. she based everything on her looks. I mean she is pretty but she needs to do work too."[/i]
If she doesn't do the work, how does she deserve to be paid the full price. These girls are suppose to provide high-end service and to think that looking nice is good enough is only going to get partial payment. If the deeds they have to perform are "distasteful to them" as Lex put it, it shouldn't show up in their work because they have decided to perform them for their means of income.
Chalk it up to experience? Sure, but I'm not going to penalize myself because of some girl not wanting to fulfill her end of the deal. If she wants to just lay there like a bump on a log, then she will be compensated like such. Its more for her to learn the lesson, not me. Hopefully, she'll will get the hint and work harder at HER chosen path.
Also I seriously doubt that the AMP is going to call the police if they aren't payed what they think they should have been. What would they say to cops? In order for them to get their money they would have to file a claim with the courts and we know they aren't going to do that. They are most likely just going to 'write-off' the loss and try to prevent it from happening again. Which may mean the girl getting canned or reprimanded. Or it could mean they get their money up front from then on.
But, I will admit that you may be setting yourself up for trouble if you continue to do that. I'm not sure what kind of protection AMPs have. I would think its very minimal as I have never heard of weapons being found at these places when cops raid them. Just boatloads of lotion and condoms. :eek: Plus they don't search you very hard when you come in, so you theoratically could have more 'protection' then they would. But, you never know and I'd hate to find myself on the wrong end of .44. [i](lol, that would kinda be a funny sight, a lil' ol' mamasan holding a gun over a naked john, screaming, "you'd better give me my money or I'll blast ya!")[/i] Plus since these girls usually end up working at different establishments, you may find yourself getting refused any service if you are recognized elsewhere.
[i][b]In the end, its probably safer to follow Lex and LoveLOS's sound advice and get a good relationship with the mamasan. [/i][/b]I've heard of some very nice outcomes when a bloke was provided with shoddy service and reported it to a familar and friendly mamasan and got steller service right then and there.
Just my [u]three[/u] cents, :D [blue]
Sgt. Sad[/blue]
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Hey Sgt,
I need to visit Raleigh again soon, especially since you have been driving prices DOWN there! Does your post mean you are going to grace DC with your presence? Hope so, SW prices seem to be getting higher since the Trashman has not been out much lately...
LoveLOS
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LoveLOS
[i]Lots of good reports this week...
Karma gave us good intel on Sun Spa, except he is like me and cant make heads or tails of a DC address. The correct address seems to be:
SUN SPA
1829 M ST NW
WASHINGTON, DC 20036
(202) 887-1179[/i][/QUOTE]Part of the confusion seems to be that there is a place named Sun Club, located at 701 6th Street, NW, 2nd Floor, Washington DC (across from a MCI Center parking lot), telephone 202-408-9777. I've never been there, I took this info from the Sun Club's ad in the Washington Post sports section.
I have been at the Sun Spa at 1829 M Street on at least three occasions over the last two years, and have posted two favorable reports about this AMP here on WSG (good FS every time for the usual $60 door fee and $100 tip). The key piece of information needed here is that the Sun Spa is on the 3rd Floor of 1829 M Street, not the 2nd Floor, which is occupied by ICM Concepts, a non-AMP and an overpriced HJ-only place.
Finally, the Sun Spa at 1829 M Street may have recently changed its name, but the AMP service is apparently still the same. 1829 M Street is located a couple of blocks from the Farragut North Metro stop (Red line).
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Just went for a morning walk looking for Sun Club on 7th & G accross from MCI, lots of construction, and no signs other than the bank. Did I miss something?
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I'd like to reply to some of the feedback which was generated by the feedback which I provided to Karma.
First of all Karma, I would not lose too much sleep over it. You did it and it's over and the important thing is to live and learn and the key to living well is to have the correct attitude. You only develop that by making mistakes. It's somewhat unfortunate but nonetheless true that they don't teach "Mongering 101" in college or anything at the secondary school level. So it's up to us to educate ourselves as a community.
With respect to Sgt Sad's comments: Don't kid yourself. They do search your clothes if/when you go for a shower. You can bet your ass the mamasan or one of the working girls comes into the room and goes through your clothes to see what's in there. That's how they know, for instance if you are LE and wearing a wire. If you thought they determined this by your looks, you were wrong. If, for some strange reason, you were packing a gun, you can once again bet your ass they would call the cops. And we all know the penalty for packing heat in the District.
Now I agree that they are unlikely to call the cops if you stiff one of the girls at an AMP, but still I think this is a bad habit to get into. For instance if you get into this habit and stiff a SW down on the block, you won't just be refused service next time you show up. You'll be given a cranial massage at the very least. And at the worst, you may lose your life.
As to who's responsible for what, you just can't hold the girl responsible every time you can't come. A lot of things can cause that which are beyond the control of the provider or (certainly) the establishment. For example, certain drugs (medically prescribed or otherwise) can cause problems. Alchohol can cause problems, certain medical conditions such as diabetes, benign prostate hyperplasia, etc. I'm certainly not implying that in Karma's case it was anything other than lack of stimulation. But the point is that there are too many factors which are beyond the control of the provider to hold her responsible. Karma said himself that they went 15 minutes over the session. So that indicates at least some effort on the part of the provider to provide satisfaction. The efforts may have been ineffectual, but they were efforts nonetheless.
I once had an experience in a SPA in Augusta, GA where I was just unable to achieve success. The provider began to rush me and I told her that I did not find her technique stimulating enough. She kept trying different things and I told her that it might help if I could DATY. She said she could not because she was at that time of her cycle. But she went and got another provider who allowed that and I achieved success. At the end, the first provider asked if I was going to provide some small tip for the second provider. Even though I had not asked for the second, I think I gave her 20 bucks in order to try to be reasonable.
I agree with Sgt. Sad that these girls chose their profession but that does not make it any more enjoyable for them. I think we need to be reasonable and kind when we deal with these girls. Notice I did not say overly generous. Just be polite and considerate and treat the girls like humans and you will enjoy the experience much more.
LexLuther
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Quick request about (gasp!) non-FS tipping at DC AMPs--
I went a few times to an AMP in Bethesda before they started offering FS rather indiscriminately (and were soon busted). This was a few years ago, before Duncan & crew went on their anti-AMP rampage. As I recall, the usual tip was two Jacksons for HJ, and up.
I recall some discussions about how DC AMP providers won't even offer HJ--since they can get $100 for that same hour offering more. However, if I'm not interested in FS, can I signal that by just laying two jacksons on the table? Or will that just get me shoo'ed out the door for being cheap?
Obviously, this is all highly hypothetical and unrealistic, so please answer accordingly. Thanks.
Roman
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Good Evenings Fellas..... just wanted to drop thru real quick and let you know that i have found 2 very remote spots in d.c. that offer everything for $30.00. I know you saying " He's full of shit" but i'm not... couple of my buddies went and turned me on to the info this week. the spots are hispanic ladies and some blk.... very nice looking from what i have been told and the service is out standing.... will post more info in a few days after i ck. out first hand... but you will aft to back channel me for address..... cause these are several spots we do not want to get closed down....
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[QUOTE]Orginally posted by LoveLOS
[i]I need to visit Raleigh again soon, especially since you have been driving prices DOWN there! Does your post mean you are going to grace DC with your presence? Hope so, SW prices seem to be getting higher since the Trashman has not been out much lately...[/i][/QUOTE]
Don't be mistaken, LOS. I have been guilty of giving SWs 40 bucks on occasion! heh heh. But the Raleigh is still a very good place for a solid Jackson funded fuck (the bill, not the admin:)). DC is a little far but I may make it up there to take in some of those tourists sights in detail and if ya'll have me, I'll take a look around the hot-spots.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LexLuther
[i]With respect to Sgt Sad's comments: Don't kid yourself. They do search your clothes if/when you go for a shower. You can bet your ass the mamasan or one of the working girls comes into the room and goes through your clothes to see what's in there.
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Perhaps things are done a little different down here in the South since most (not all tho) of the times my clothes remained in my sight. At the very least, the door to the room where my clothes were at remained in view of my peepers. So unless they had a trick door or was crawling through a window, my clothes weren't searched. In fact, I have wondered many times that they are vulnerable to peeps that might bring in something.
[i]
As to who's responsible for what, you just can't hold the girl responsible every time you can't come. A lot of things can cause that which are beyond the control of the provider or (certainly) the establishment. For example, certain drugs (medically prescribed or otherwise) can cause problems. Alchohol can cause problems, certain medical conditions such as diabetes, benign prostate hyperplasia, etc. I'm certainly not implying that in Karma's case it was anything other than lack of stimulation. But the point is that there are too many factors which are beyond the control of the provider to hold her responsible.
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Very true, and if it was one of those factors where it was beyond the providers control, the mongor should pay regardless of cumming. If Karma had said he was normally longwinded or had some kind of condition where he couldn't spew the spunk, I wouldn't have said it was the girls fault. But he did not so I assumed that under normal AMP services he would have no problems finishing up.
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Karma said himself that they went 15 minutes over the session. So that indicates at least some effort on the part of the provider to provide satisfaction. The efforts may have been ineffectual, but they were efforts nonetheless.
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From my experiences, going over the allotted time happens often. Lying there for an additional 15 minutes doesn't imply effort was exerted. Karma said she relied on her looks and did nothing else to get him off. For me personally, good looks can stiffen up the ol' shaft but it ain't going to shoot if she just lays there. So from what I read of the comments, it was the girl's not putting any effort into her job which caused the problem.
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I agree with Sgt. Sad that these girls chose their profession but that does not make it any more enjoyable for them. I think we need to be reasonable and kind when we deal with these girls. Notice I did not say overly generous. Just be polite and considerate and treat the girls like humans and you will enjoy the experience much more.
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Hear, hear, I'll drink to that. To being reasonable and expecting reasonable service! :D[/QUOTE]
With that said, I think we are going to the same place on the map, just taking different roads. I would feel justified in not giving her all the cash but probably still would just to keep good relations open and especially if I planned to come back.
Since I'm not really helping ya'll get that poontang, I going to refrain from commenting on this further. Your advice is sound LexLuther, I just had a [u]little[/u] difference of opinion but all is swell.
Take care gents,[blue]
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TrusgrBear
[i]Good just wanted to drop thru real quick and let you know that i have found 2 very remote spots in d.c. that offer everything for $30.00.[/i][/QUOTE]Hot damn bear! Stop hibernating and start forraging! <lol>
Check your mail dude!
[QUOTE]Originally posted by ToeTapper
[i]e.g., Amber Reese, Satine, Anik, Kacey and Lila, a mix of local and visiting escorts. But the drawback is that the services are expensive [generally 250].[/i][/QUOTE]Ho-Tapper,
As we have discussed BC, I believe this board would appreciate detailed reports on escorts, which all agree is expensive pootang, but there is obviously a market... The Trashman himself has confirmed most of your intel, so fear not...
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sgt. Sad
[i]I have been guilty of giving SWs 40 bucks on occasion! heh heh.[/i][/QUOTE]Sgt,
There you go, thinking with your little head. I'm gonna have to sick the Trashman on you for overpaying, but your still welcome here anytime.
LoveLOS
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by LoveLOS
[i]Sgt,
There you go, thinking with your little head. I'm gonna have to sick the Trashman on you for overpaying, but your still welcome here anytime.[/i][/QUOTE]
heh heh, well its only happened twice in recent history. And to tell you the truth, I'm not entirely convinced I was overpaying. Had a very nice time in both cases. Plus I know I have recieved a lot more than my fair share of 'good deals.' I'm sure the Trashman would be proud! Now theres one fellow I can see eye to eye with though he may find I'm a little extreme at times.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by TrusgrBear
[i]Good Evenings Fellas..... just wanted to drop thru real quick and let you know that i have found 2 very remote spots in d.c. that offer everything for $30.00. [/i][/QUOTE]
Where are these girls, do tell! One does not have to necessarily post, you can send email as well- hysteromania at yahoo Speak enough Spanish to win over the ladies. ;)
Will be in DC until next week and looking for some action. If not, may have to go up to Baltimore.
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I have had piss poor luck lately (see Nova report). Only thing remotley of interest to report occurred around 1am Saturday morning near the 7-11 at 21st and Rhode Island.
Keisha a BSW was walking along Rte 1, didnt get a good look at her shoes as she got in my car but I think she is 5'7, or 5'8". She had D+ chest with a thin waist. Can't tell you anything about her technique cuz she wanted 40 for a CBJ - after asking 50 and refusing 30. If I'd had the time I would have explored FS options, would have loved to seen them titties bounce, but had to head home.
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I heard a teaser today on the WTOP, about new laws for Massage Parlors and the Police actively enforcing them. Didn't hear were. Someone please tell me it's not so.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Chip_s
[i]I heard a teaser today on the WTOP, about new laws for Massage Parlors and the Police actively enforcing them. Didn't hear were. Someone please tell me it's not so. [/i][/QUOTE]The story you heard was about the new law took effect Saturday in Waldorf (Charles County) MD. The following is a link to the Post article. Fou us AMP mongers this could be a bid loss. Please pass on any info on recent visits.
Thanks in advance,
Crazy Dick
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17347-2003Jul19.html