Anyone know anything (good or bad) about Aqua on Convoy? Has anyone taken one for the team yet?
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Anyone know anything (good or bad) about Aqua on Convoy? Has anyone taken one for the team yet?
Anyone know anything (good or bad) about Aqua on Convoy? Has anyone taken one for the team yet?
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I saw that place and stopped by to check it out. Do not waste your time. The place is full on legit. There was a middle age looking asian lady working the counter when I went in. I talked to her for a bit, and then she actually persuaded me to go in and check the place out. There was no one there, but I tell you what, if this place were an AMP, it would be awesome. Very nice facilities. Saunas, jaccuzzi, showers, all done up with nice tile work. Lockers and benches in the dressing area. They even have a room just off all of this with couches, TV going, newspapers and magazines. Stacks of clean towels, and sandals to use if you like.
After seeing all this, I just had to know, so I stopped at the front desk and asked her about massage. She made it clear to me that I could get a massage, from a GUY. Sorry, I'm not into that. Very nice place if you just want to blow money on a spa, but that's it. So there it is, and no $$ lost.
While we're on the subject, there's another new place on Bonita Road, just a block or two west of Otay Lakes Road, on the south side of the street. It's on the second floor in a strip mall. They have a banner out front that reads something like, 'grand opening, 1 hour massage, $25'. Sorry, can't remember the name. Anyone tried it?
Okay, hows this..
Does anyone have anything good to say about any MPs that are not way up north in Escondido or way down south in Bonita or Chula?
I'm asking if anyone has anything positive to say about SD MPs. Anyone?
If it is really good you can PM me.
I'm looking for a change and that drive up the 15 is too brutal.
The name in Bonita is Casual Massage. Looks legit to me. Somebody prove me wrong!
man
QUOTE>> I just saw a news story where sdpd is reporting a huge upswing in teeny-boppers, high school and even jr high age, getting into the business.
If you are going to take the usual risks at least be sure the SW is not a minor or you could find yourself in a much bigger world of crap (legally and morally) that you bargained for.
Beware!QUOTE <<<
Funny you mention this info. Just last week I was strolling ECB, I noticed a younger looking girl dressed to impress. I was unable to really get a feel for her age from 1/2 a block down, but she looked way too hot. I waved, pulled over and waited. She walked up and jumped right in my car. The very absolute first words out of my mouth were........."how old are you, I hope you're at least 18?". she assured me she was, swore up and down. We drove around the block, She named her rules amounts etc. This girl was hot, but truthfully she looked like she could possibly be 16-17, but then again she could have been 21-22. Well, my bigger head got the better of me and I insisted she quickly tell me her birthday. She hesitated, and mumbled off two separate years, one making her 20, then next 22. I knew she was likely under 18 at this point. So i insisted she show me her ID, she said her boyfriend kept it for her.
At this point I was 100% certain she was not 18. I gave her lecture about not only being way too young and perhaps stupid for doing what she was doing at her age, but that fact she was going to get some poor sap of a John, busted with a statutory rape charge. I really sort of let her have it. I dropped her off, drove around the block only to see her climbing in another John's truck.
Be careful bros. Sure they are sweet, fine girls, but if they are under 18, it does not matter what the circumstances are, yes even if she lied, you're going down in flames with a rape rap forever if you get caught.
I'm serious about this. I have noticed some young girls walking ECB lately. You better make them show you an ID, if LE pulls up on you and she is under age...............May God have mercy!
GETTINGTANG~!
Re: Year-end poll.
Best 2003 overall provider: Jeannie at Asia in Escondido. Wow. While I was in the midst of her company, I was talking to her about bookign the next day.
Nicest facilities: Sundance - clearly. Need more chics though. And it sucks because it's right next to my wife's girlfriend's office :( so I'm out from here on.
Best looking provider: Can't really say. Julie or the other chick from Sundance. Don't remember.
Craziest provider: The one that used to speak about her dead husband and Jesus. Worked at Royal on University - seen at Oriental in Escondido last year. May? Hot, nice tits, semi good time, but loco.
Place to avoid: Sunset Accupressure in Escondido. Last time I was there was a few years back. $45 house, $30 for just HJ - crappy attitude. No extras. Lamest place in Esc.
**New category: Best New AMP house: Asia in Escondido. A total shit hole, but all the gals are nice, pros and getthe job done.
Escondido.. Escondido.. Escondido... It practically needs its own forum.
Does anyone have anything to say about places in S.D., La Mesa, etc? ECB has several, PB, Kerney Mesa, University Ave, etc.
As far as distance goes from SD Escondido and TJ are a toss up.
Hello everyone!
First I have a warning for those that are into the street scene. SDPD did a major sw sweep on ECB on thursday 12/11/03. I'm not sure if they were picking up jons but a lot of girls went to jail. They may be cracking down so I would advise everybody to be careful. I also would like to inform everybody that I will be providing service to the San Diego area very soon. I usually post in the Orange Count section of the forum, so those who are interested can read my posts as well as feast your eyes on a few photos taken by on of my clients(LookslikeLE). I hope everyone is well and will be, hopefully, seeing some of you soon. Thanks!
Sugar
Does anyone know what happened to Jennie from Sundance, aka May from OT, aka Jennie from Royal? I never heard her dead husband or Jesus stories, but enjoyed her conversation and massage anyhow.
Sundance keeps saying she is coming back, but she hasn't been there since August.
Please send PM.
Thanks.
There was a lot of action last week, but the cops cracked down hard and they drove them out of town. There was a few girls last night. Most of the girls are from out of town and expensive. This one ok looking brunette wanted 100$ min for anything...
I'm surprised to hear about the high costs at Sunset. I've been there 2 or 3 times and never was asked for more than the $50 for the room. Tipped $20 after HJ. Would not have wanted more than HJ though.
i think the recent report about ****rs working as sw may have had something to do with it. that kind of thing is serious business and will usually draw such a reaction. public outcry, political pressure, media pressure, etc.
consenting adults is one thing. if there are kiddies out and the weirdos that attract them then i can't find much fault in their taking some action.
if it was all hype and media bs just to justify some shock and awe sweep on the usual "consenting adults" then that would be another thing entirely.
**** sw's will certainly get the cops to crack down hard. i have not seen many **** sw's recently however.
i think the more likely reason is the number of pimps & out of town girls. i have noticed that they have been harassing the girls a lot. hopefull the the pimps will leave.
Teen prostitute warning
This story is a bit strange, there has not been all that many girls
out. In most cases you will 6 to 8 girls max. I suspect that most of
the girls work in other towns. I have not seen any wsw's who appear
to be under 18 in quite a while.
(http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/2697578/detail.html)officials Worry
Trend Is Spreading Through County
POSTED: 6:16 PM PST December 10, 2003
UPDATED: 11:37 AM PST December 11, 2003
"SAN DIEGO -- An alarming number of teenagers in the city of San
Diego are being recruited for prostitution -- and officials are
worried that the problem may be spreading.
FeedRoom
Teens Recruited As Prostitutes
Local officials say that the more and more girls -- students by day,
prostitutes by night -- appear to be getting involved. Authorities
told NBC 7/39 that that they recently have noticed a disturbing trend
developing among high school and middle school students.
Now, officials said, they are afraid the problem -- which has jumped
about 50 percent in the last year -- is spreading throughout the
county.
Many of the girls are recruited by fellow classmates, according to
Sgt. Mark Sullivan of the San Diego police vice unit.
"They're not strangers coming to the campus and recruiting them out
in the parking lots," said Sullivan. "These are actually
acquaintances, people they know in the school who introduce them to
the activity."
Police believe a lot of the recruiting is done by the so-called
tennis-shoe pimps -- teenagers themselves, some of whom are not even
old enough to drive.
Some of the pimps, however, are surprisingly sophisticated, sending
local girls as far away as Las Vegas to turn tricks.
Police said that many of the girls were recruited from schools in
South Bay, including Montgomery High School and Montgomery Middle
School, but investigators say that no community is immune to the
problem and that girls of various racial and economic backgrounds are
being targeted.
Sullivan said that most of the teen prostitutes have two things in
common: low self-esteem and a need to belong.
"They're looking to be part of a group or caring environment -- as
they see it -- which is never the case when you get involved with a
pimp," said Sullivan.
Police said the girls do not make very much money, maybe $20-$40 a
day, and the pimps get all of it. Officials are asking anyone with
information to call the vice unit at (619) 531-2452.
Police said it's difficult to know how many students are involved in
prostitution, but they do know that there have been 36 arrests in the
last eight months."
i know this might be kinda late, but about two weeks ago in escondido, i was leaving the parking lot of a supermarket, and was watching two obviously **** girls solicite guys. they both had super short mini-skirts and stripper shoes. after i had seen them talking to a couple different guys in cars, i drove out of the parking lot as they were walking thru the driveway. they both turned around and headed for my car. they wanted to know if i wanted some fun and if i could give them a ride. i asked them if they had run away from home, and they both said yes, and that they needed some cash. they said they knew what they were doing, but i told them to go home to they`re moms instead! they were both under 16, and maybe younger.
knuckle head "officials" need to know that if there are, in fact **** sws out there, it's not a "self esteem" or "need to belong" issue.
try these issues on for size:
1. no money
2. nobody to give them money.
3. no job.
4. nobody will give them a job (insert reasons here).
5. no leadership
6. nobody willing to give them leadership (insert reasons here).
7. no opportunity.
8. nobody will give them an opportunity (insert reasons here).
bad enough to be on this side of the hobby. can we be responsible for making sure that they are safe at our hands? yes. do we? i do. never take an under age sw. never. you will do time.
ladies know that they are sitting on a moneymaker. if they are clean they can do very well. us mongerers have saturated this board with experiences of value for money and rip offs so they are a fact of life; not only in this arena but at fucking walmart.
when i see a 17% turnout at the election polls it's not hard to understand how this fucked up group "think" creeps into public policy. will we ever learn?
it's the same old story. us mongerers are responsible for enticing the girls out to the street. bullshit.
stop the rant country john.
be safe and be nice
country john
**** teens is really dumb. if the the cops catch you with one you will get charged for statutory rape regardless of whether you knew and or asked if she was legal. you can be also certain that the da will throw the book at you and hit you with every charge he can.
picking up **** girls also gives prostitution a bad name and gives the cops a good reason to crack down.
Must have been lively on ECB last night. Who couldn't see this coming? First the announcement about teenie-bopper SWs then last night's dropping the hammer. Maybe I should play lotto numbers tonight, it appears I'm on a streak.
Do we need to take roll call or did they nab 20 idiots?
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Cops Dress As Streetwalkers, Snare 20 Men
POSTED: 8:54 AM PST December 17, 2003
UPDATED: 9:12 AM PST December 17, 2003
SAN DIEGO -- Police arrested 20 men Tuesday after they offered to pay for sex acts from undercover cops posing as streetwalkers.
Vice officers confiscated 15 vehicles during the operation. All of the suspects were booked into County Jail.
The operation was conducted by the department's vice unit in the city's western division, which includes the neighborhoods of Hillcrest, University Heights and North Park.
Did anyone see the sting last night. It was probably the usual sting.........???
In any case it just goes to show you that the cops will most likely nail the person who just happens to be driving by and picks up a girl. The lesson here is that it pays to check out the situation first.
Yes, i did see the sting that night(tuesday night), i was lucky so. First, i saw two girls standing right outside of the motel by Texas street, and the other two walking east to the restaurant, i came from west bound of ECB. I made a u turn by the restaurant go around behind the motel on the ally, there i saw a cop car with head light on arresting a jon and a black step van on the parking lot of the furnitures store, i pretending passing by, slowly passing cop car, made a left turn to ECB, by the conner of the motel there was another cop car and black step van waiting. I said that it's, let get the fuck out of this area. Guys careful out there, make sure rounding behind the area once before pick up a girl, that was my way of picking up SW for the last twenty years.
No offense to anyone on this board, but anyone gets busted by LE for attempting to solicit a prostitute probably deserves to get caught in my opinion! Think about it, us experienced mongers all know the simple rules.
My basic rule of thumb is simple. I make eye contact and smile, maybe a wave. Not a damn thing more until she sits her ass in my car! PERIOD! If she won't get in your car then leave! I don't give a damn how hot she is, LEAVE! Drive off. If you find yourself caught in a conversation with a girl standing on the corner and she won't get in your car, then ask her a stupid question like directions to some place. DO NOT EVER DISCUSS ANYTHING SEXUAL, NOT EVER UNTIL SHE IS IN YOUR CAR AND HAS DRIVEN WELL OUT OF THE AREA~! Get it? Once out of the area, still do the LE check, do not discuss anything about money or for what until these things have been done!
Now when you pull up on these undercover cops, they will try and talk sex with you and then ask you what you want to pay, etc,etc, just ignore them. All real working girls know this too. They know Johns are well aware of this, therefore chances are, if she does not hop right in your car, she is LE.
Man this cracks me up, when I read these reports about 20 or 30 guys getting burned this way. I really did not know there was that many stupid people out there.
Now even if you pickup a real working girl, you still need to make absolutely for sure that no one followed you, or pulls up on you. You can still be busted if you get caught in the act.
I have a real problem with the way LE conducts themselves regarding prostitution. It's my OPINION they break way too many laws themselves to catch people. They get frustrated because more and more Johns are cautious and don't fall for their silly traps. So they end up breaking the rules themselves. I read a report about one motorist who was arrested for just driving by an undercover LE hooker. He drove by her slowly, checking her out a few times, but never stopped or asked her anything! They busted him. The case was thrown out, be he had to get an attorney and everything else.
The cops like to ASSUME things when running these stings. "well you drove by twice, you were checking her out, you talked to her, you must have been intending to proposition her" etc, etc,
I have even heard of cases where they have attempted to arrest guys for simply picking up a working girls. People get pulled over and harassed all the time, even if their not actually in the act of sex!
So all in all, you must be cautious and remember LE sometimes likes to cheat! So be careful!
GETTINGTANG~!
I did a fly by of ECB last evening. It was in the 7-8pm time. There were a few girls, a couple of WSW between 805 and Texas that looked too young or methed out. Just looked too skinny. There were some pimps on the corner acting like fools by the Blockbuster. A lame scene.
Frankly I am not a street monger. It is too whacky, weird people, etc. I partake from time to time but it's not a regular thing. Frankly as jammed up as the traffic is on ECB in the evenings I don't see how anyone could tolerate cruising in the first place.
TD
Getting Tang, Excellent report and great advice. I've spent quite a bit of time reading reports of stings around the country and in California and there's one thing I've noticed from reading the names of the Johns: about 90% of them seem to be Hispanic. But its my opinion (and I have absolutely no data to back me up) that most mongers are white. So I think we've done a good job of informing some of the hobbiest's but somehow need to get the message across to our brethern from the South. I don't like to see anyone get busted. Maybe its a cultural thing (I don't know) and they think since it's not a big deal down there it must not be up here. In fact most of the world probably can't believe the lengths our police force in America will go to to prevent a working stiff from getting a little pussy.
Civ2K
Civ2000, good observation. Never noticed the Hispanic ratio on the bust numbers.
What I find most annoying about these busts are the way the go about it. I'm all for cleaning up gangsters and gun toting drug dealers, but I honestly see no harm in a guy paying for a little sex. I think major cities across America should allow designated areas for the trade to legally take place. I could ramble on for hours about this topic, but I won't.
All I can say, is men or the male species in general don't just want or like sex. WE HAVE TO HAVE IT!" It's the most natural normal thing we humans do in our lifetimes. We have sex. This includes cops too. Now for some guy, he might have wife at home with kids and a career and be a damn good tax paying citizen, with a mother and family that loves him. you get the picture. The old wife, for some reason aint giving it up anymore. Rather then dump his wife leave his family, he goes and and pay for a little SAFE sex. Drops a C note for a much needed release. No harm...........oops, he gets busted by some rookie over motivated cop. He losses his car, then his job, wife dumps him, gets an attorney sues him for everything he ever worked for. she turns the kids against him, he can't get work anywhere because his name and photo was on television. All for a "crime" that hurt absolutely NOBODY!
This is absolutely disgusting, in my opinion. That is just one of a thousand scenarios! It's simply wrong. We all need sex, we were made that way. If two consenting adults want to trade, or be paid, or just have sex for the sake of sex, it should not be the governments business! Sex is personal, private, natural act, it is not a fricken CRIME, that warrants all the above happening to you!
GETTINGTANG~!
As always, anything written here is just my opinion, or fictional. Never the truth! I'm simply excersising my constitutional right to freedom of speach in a fictional mannor!
Anyone interested in joining a PM buddy list for Escondido AMPs PM me. This way we can share good info and keep it off the main board away from LE eyes.
I'll compile any initial input and send it out with the list of those that want to partake.
Anyone that doesn't contribute can then be removed from the list.
Hello,
I previously posted about providing service for the SD area. I regret to inform everyone that due to my schedule I won't be able to make it this weekend. If plans do change those who have my number can call and check up or just PM me here. Thanks and have a great weekend!
Sugar
Getting Tang: Excellent post, very eloquently stated rational perspective. Why the fictional disclaimer at the bottom?
Tonight on Ch 5 Ricky Lake did "Girls Gone Wild" Interviewed 3 teenage prostitutes and their mothers. Starting at age 13. One escort putting herself through school.
Also mentioned "Chicken parties" which are teen orgies of about 40 kids, oral sex for everyone. One girl boasted she sucks off 13 guys per party. Girls have a contest, where different color lipstick, see which girl gave the most bjs. Girl on girl etc.
Geez, things sure have changed since I was growing up, and I'm just 36 years old!
P.S. Just think how disappointed those brats are going to be when they grow older and have to pay for it like the rest of us! LOL
Coincidentally found myself flying the length of ECB because 8 was such a mess this evening. *yawn* boring. Nothing to speak of. I took one for the team and checked out Shanghai. Again *yawn*. Nothing.
Man, its like the PD is actually putting a dent in the fun of SD city. One thing for sure, their tentacles can't reach into TJ... yet.
TD
tired_driver
I don't think that the level of prositution has really dropped all that much recently. Sure there is a lot less prostitutes then there was in the 80's. The big thing that has changed is the quality and price. These days there seems to be lesser quality at a higher price. There is also a lot more out of town girls there used to be.
tired_driver
continued.......
a few years back you would see a few good looking local girls on east ecb other part of ecb and get a good bj for 20$. recently most of the girls all hang out by chasers area. because of this the girls tend to attarct a lot more attention and a lot more cops as well. now we have this recent supposed spike in **** girls and they have brought down all this heat as a result. there has only been 1 or 2 good looking wsw's and they are older girls.
I'm coming to town over the holidays, staying near the convention center, and wanted to know if there's place for action--working girls, massage, strip clubs, whatever, that someone could advise for a guy who won't have a car to get around by himself!
Thanks in advance, everyone!
Secretman:
When will you be in town? You might be interested in Operation AlleyKat II in Tijuana.
Experienced mongerers know how to stay out of trouble for the most part. It's the inexperienced or stupid mongerer that gets busted. One problem is that they are so obvious to LE and the community that they simply draw attention to themselves and create problems for everyone.
I'm not sure I buy the story about the guy getting busted for just slowing down. That's a reach but I also know better than to say that it could not have happened.
Anyone with any inside info SHOULD NOT post it. LE WILL change tactics and turn it around on you.
DO NOT POST inside info. You are telling LE how to catch you - they ARE MONITORING THIS BOARD. (But you already know that eh?)
Be Safe and BE NICE
Country John
i`m very dissappointed to hear about the tax money wasting busts going on in san diego.
i believe that the media hype about **** girls is being used by the local pd to run the recent big sting (among the many smaller ones). i noticed a few **** girls working, but nothing more than usual.
getting tang metioned the idiocy about getting busted by pd in sd. after many years of picking up sw in ca and learning from this board, the way of not getting busted is quite obvious for many of us. i agree but for those from outside ca/us and inexperienced mongers, this silly cat-and-mouse pick up of street walkers is not so obvious. for example, civ2000 mentioned the high proportion of hispanics being busted.
one of the niceties that i`ve experienced travelling in asia and latin america is the more open minded/mature attitude of providing some kind of adult service for the needs of men legally. this being done without the life shattering/degrading and costly episodes imposed by law enforcement like we see in san diego/la.
when looking at this forum for other areas outside the us, many of the posts talk about prices, girls and good locales for our hobby. unfortunately, when looking at post for my hometown in southern california, half of them are about the repression and persecution of mongers and how to avoid incarceration and how to prevent our property (autos) from being (illegally?) confiscated.
i`m currently in asia and am enjoying the pleasures that our hobby brings without the burden of worrying about criminal prosecution. when will the us become more 'enlightened' like the rest of the world when it comes to the natural act of sex?
i hope this adolescent and hypocritical money-gauging activity by the sdpd ends soon.
CountryJohn,
You are so right. This forum isn't top secret. You have to assume at all times that we're being watched. When you get too comfortable, you get caught.
Anyway, we all know the street scene is messed up right now, so be safe guys.
Skittles
Country John:
I'll be there and looking for fun on the 26th! Not sure I want to make the trip to Mexico, though, because I am there on business. Just want to make my nights pleasurable.
[blue]Greetings everyone,
I've moved the LE discussion to a new section titled "Prostitution and Law Enforcement" in the Opinions Section of the Forum.
If you want to argue about Prostitution and LE, then please pickup the conversation there.
If you want to talk about finding sex in San Deigo, then please post here.
Thanks,
Jackson[/blue]
Jackson:
Good call! Sorry I started such a heated debate. Seems I must of struck a nerve!
Aht169
Hey guys- happy holidays- I have not been around much lately- having some serious health problems going on with the wife and my drive has just not been there, so forgive me if this has been covered already. Just a couple questions on MP's-
1: Anyone have any luck at the place in CV yet? Seem to remember seeing a report a while back- but do not remember.
2: There is a place on ECB just west of 70th- Shanghai maybe? Went there once and no luck- but I also saw a report here a while back that indicated it would possibly be worth another shot- went the one time when I was still fairly new and was not aggressive at all in pursuing what I wanted.. my fault. Anyone?
If you don't want to post here, e-me.
goingcruising@yahoo.com
Thanks! Merry Christmas
Five,
Shanghai is a waste of time. Do not waste your money. I took one for the team and when I went I applied four continents of mongering and MP experience at the situation. Nada. It appears to be a one technician shop and not monger friendly.
If you do find one that is good to go in the cental San Diego area please share. Driving to Escondido or TJ just sucks.
TD