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[QUOTE=Traveler747]Dumb newbie question: I have some experience with massage parlors, including the old Absolute in Baltimore, Alpine in Frederick and AMPs. But I need someone to explain "private viewing. " I understand that providers in some states, including Virginia, can't say "massage" without bumping against licensing regulations. Are the services offered at a "private viewing" basically similar to an American-staffed massage parlor? No need to be graphic or specific, just a general idea of what can reasonably be expected. Also, at a shop that charges $200 at the door, what is a proper tip?[/QUOTE]With "PV". Its always a YMMV. Sometimes just massage, more often massage w/HR, sometimes upsale. Even within a given agency each girl varies. Best bet is to take the half hour option for the first visit, one a given girl is comfortable with you, the full menu can be discussed. If you find someone you enjoy, become a regular and enjoy, though pricing usually becomes consistent with other quality FS. The best PV agency girls usually leave after a while and go independent or to an agency.

[QUOTE=Traveler747]Dumb newbie question: I have some experience with massage parlors, including the old Absolute in Baltimore, Alpine in Frederick and AMPs. But I need someone to explain "private viewing. " I understand that providers in some states, including Virginia, can't say "massage" without bumping against licensing regulations. Are the services offered at a "private viewing" basically similar to an American-staffed massage parlor? No need to be graphic or specific, just a general idea of what can reasonably be expected. Also, at a shop that charges $200 at the door, what is a proper tip?[/QUOTE]




Do some homework on here. It will help you from losing a lot of that $$ that you want to spend. No parlor will charge you $$ at the door. Most charge .8 for the hour and tip is not included but runs around .4 for handshake.... If you go to a FCCC you're looking at $.6 which includes tip and is FS. In other words, READ THE FORUM!

I have a regular girl I see, a non pro in the area, and we were chatting today and she asked me if I had heard anything bad about her or anyone who may live near her that she does not know, but perhaps I did. I said no, but she said she has had two people inquire about services, and then when she told them where she lived, they got freaked out. One had said, "I heard some shit about that area recently on Craig s List". I look at CL fairly regularly, and said she had nothing to worry about, but she is actually thinking of shutting down completely due to this scare. I told her I would look into it, so fellow pussy-chasers, what is the deal? I have not heard anything bad, but I admittedly do not peruse CL on a daily basis, I may have missed a post. Any ideas? I would hate to lose this regular non pro. I'm me for details or if you have info to share.

[QUOTE=Bayarea Hotguy]I have a regular girl I see, a non pro in the area, and we were chatting today and she asked me if I had heard anything bad about her or anyone who may live near her that she does not know, but perhaps I did. ...
Any ideas? I would hate to lose this regular non pro. I'm me for details or if you have info to share.[/QUOTE]

I am confused. She has sex for $$ that makes her a pro. If she does it only once and a while she is a part time pro, but still a pro.

What is your definition of pro and non pro, cause I don't think that means what you think that it means?

Tiger Woods is a pro golfer, he gets paid to golf. He participates/plays far less than any other pro golfer, he plays when he feels like it. KJ Choi or Anthony Kim are also pro golfers, who play most PGA events. By your standard Tiger by virtue of playing less than the other pros, would be a non-pro. I think you can see that would not be the case at all.

If she is having sex with guys for free she is not a pro.
If she charges $$ she is a pro.

[QUOTE=Brahmabull]I am confused. She has sex for $$ that makes her a pro. If she does it only once and a while she is a part time pro, but still a pro.

What is your definition of pro and non pro, cause I don't think that means what you think that it means?

Tiger Woods is a pro golfer, he gets paid to golf. He participates/plays far less than any other pro golfer, he plays when he feels like it. KJ Choi or Anthony Kim are also pro golfers, who play most PGA events. By your standard Tiger by virtue of playing less than the other pros, would be a non-pro. I think you can see that would not be the case at all.

If she is having sex with guys for free she is not a pro.

If she charges $$ she is a pro.[/QUOTE]I think we have a difference of opinion there. In my book, a pro is someone who does this and has sex with guys for $$ as a career, who does nothing else, no other source of income, and sole purpose is to see as many people as she can, and make as much money as she can. A pro watches the clock, and says "times up" when you get to your 1 hour mark. A pro has her phone ringing constantly, and makes appointments as you wait there to see her. The majority (with few exceptions) are very business oriented, and you know very obviously this is just a sex for money transaction.

A non pro is a girl who has a job, a career, and does this just occasionally, maybe once a week, or a few times a month, and does not see 10 guys daily. A non pro is a girl who just needs help with bills every now and then, and can go weeks or months without seeing anyone, and is selective in who see sees, and enjoys herself while doing it. A non pro normally does not watch the clock, will see people in her private home instead of a skanky hotel room, and it is much more of a GFE, and relaxing experience.

What you suggest, anyone who takes money for sex is a pro is very flawed. There is a difference between a pro and non pro. What you are actually saying is that there is NO SUCH THING as a non pro, because ANYONE who has sex for money is a pro. So if they have sex with you for no money, are they then a non pro? No, they are your wife, a ***** or a girlfriend. I think other guys will agree there is a big difference between someone who does this because they HAVE to, and some one who does it as a "hobby" so to speak. If I golf in a tournament once a year, and win, and get paid, I am still no Tiger Woods, but I just got paid for my hobby. So now I am a pro? Move over Tiger Woods then!

I think a "Part-Time Pro" would still be a business oriented clock watcher.

Why do we call ourselves "hobbyists"? Because we do this occasionally, and don't pay for sex full time, LOL. So maybe she is a "hobbyist provider" LOL.

[QUOTE=Bayarea Hotguy]I think we have a difference of opinion there.

So if they have sex with you for no money, are they then a non pro? No, they are your wife, a ***** or a girlfriend.
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Except truth be told in the sex trade Pro has always stood for prostitute/provider and not professional.

If they have sex for no money they do not need to be my wife or girlfriend, they could simply be a 1 time thing/1night stand or the girl could simply be a S l u t, or a nympho. Non-pros in my book are chicks I bang for free who are not my wife or girlfriend.

Any girl accepting $$ for sex is a pro. Your definition just basically speaks to quality of service. I know many GFE providers who do this full time who do not clock watch do not say times up, etc and have no other 'career'.

You say if you win an golf event you would be a pro, but you can not get in to those events, and Tiger and the other golfers who make the cut get paid even if they do not win. Tiger gets paid by the pga an appearance fee just to play gold regardless of winning or losing.

[QUOTE=Brahmabull]Except truth be told in the sex trade Pro has always stood for prostitute/provider and not professional.

If they have sex for no money they do not need to be my wife or girlfriend, they could simply be a 1 time thing/1night stand or the girl could simply be a S l you t, or a nympho. Non-pros in my book are chicks I bang for free who are not my wife or girlfriend.

Any girl accepting $$ for sex is a pro. Your definition just basically speaks to quality of service. I know many GFE providers who do this full time who do not clock watch do not say times up, etc and have no other 'career'.

You say if you win an golf event you would be a pro, but you can not get in to those events, and Tiger and the other golfers who make the cut get paid even if they do not win. Tiger gets paid by the pga an appearance fee just to play gold regardless of winning or losing.[/QUOTE]We are speaking of two entirely different things.

You say Pro means prostitute or provider, then I agree, anyone who takes money for sex is a provider, but I don't think necessarily needs to be labeled a "Prostitute" though "technically" that would be the correct term, however, I don't think that anyone who has an occasional drink of alcohol every now and then would like the label "alcoholic".

What I meant was Professional vs Non-Professional. You commented on my post not knowing my definition of "Pro".

You said Pro always means prostitute in the sex trade, I disagree. Most of my circle also uses the same definition. We already assume that if I pay her its because she is a provider, the difference is a "professional provider", one who does it for a living, (Pro) or a "non-professional provider", who just does it as a hobby of sorts, whenever there is a need for some extra cash, and can be VERY selective in who she sees. (Non-Pro)

I think the majority of the guys in NOVA use this definition, and certainly the girls do, because a lot of them even advertise as a "non-pro provider" or "young sexy non-pro", yet is charging a fee. But, by your definition she would be correctly advertised as a "non prostitute prostitute" or a "young sexy non-provider"?

WTF?

But, you failed to comment on the real reason I was posting on the board in the first place, you just saw fit to shoot your two cents in and make a smart-a** comment about something not even important to the post. Does it stroke your ego to try to appear more knowledgeable about the "sex trade"? Why not try to help out a fellow member, and not bash? Is this not what this board is about?

We can agree to disagree on the definition of "PRO". Let this be the end of this string, lesson learned.

You are supposed to be a senior member, set an example.

I just got home from a GB myself! The place is clean and seems safe. The girls are VERY talented and clean. The other guys were a mix of several of us fat, old white guys, younger, slimmer white guys, and severl black guys of all shapes and sizes.

Cost is $80 per girl and today there were two of them so my total outlay was $160.

I got all the head and tail I wanted and came home exhausted and happy!

The record for muiltiple pops is now FOUR within the two hours period and Roger offers a $100 prize to the one who breaks the record. He is honest and I saw him pay the guy who hit the fourth nut today.

So, contact Roger and maybe I'll see you at the next GB!!!

TRUSTED SENIORS may PM me for more details if you want.

JJ

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Originally Posted by Drkrider
Gentlemen

I'm still getting some PM's about the GBangs. To be clear, I'm not the organizer just a participant.

I did go on last Weds. and hooked up with a chik named Jagger..it was the same girl from last time.

When I arrived 1 guy was leaving, 1 guy was sitting at a table in his boxers (trying to get his 2nd wind) and an Indian guy was just there to watch.

Donation is .80 for the duration of the GB, usually 3 hrs. Multipops are encouraged and all races are welcomed (Including myself, there were 3 Blk guys, 1 Indian , 1 white, 1 hispanic)....arriving at different times. I basically had the girl all to myself again. Ages seemed to range from early 20's to mid 40's.

When I arrived, she was naked sitting on the couch waiting for me to get undressed. We exchanged "hello's" and I made small talk with the coordinator Roger.

I stripped down and sat on the couch. She got right to business with a BBBJ which lasted for at least 15-20mins. Skills were above average...(not quite enough spit, hand action or deep throat for me...I actually tried to make her deep throat..she tried but was afraid she'd puke on me..lol)

Spanish guy arrived and ate her pussy and fingered her while I was getting head. We switched positions, I hit covered up and hit it doggy for a while, then switched to mish after the spanish guy came from the BJ. I dug her out for awhile and unloaded.

Stayed for a while, talked a little with the other guys, chatted about future bangs, and left shortly thereafter.

All in all, a good time. For those of you who wonder about the environment. It's a well lit nicely furnished apartment. Everything takes place in the living room/dining room area. The mood is chatty with the coordinator Roger typically telling the girls to stay busy pleasing the guys. The TV is usually on and everyone is Straight...No homo or bi activity.

Roger just called me today to see if I'm down for another bang he's having tomorrow (Sunday). 2 girls- 1 in her 20's, the other in her early 30's, both black (I believe.) I've got to pass, but I'm going to start seeing some of his chiks 1 on 1.

If you're interested and serious about attending...shoot him an email. He has a "stable" of chiks and he's really trying to make this a regular weekly thing.



[email]tricountygangbangclub@yahoo.com[/email]

Safe Hunting,

Drkrider

Don't think I could ever be a GB guy. I don't like to share, but I would love to have two girls at once, but don't I could only last a minute. If any of you mongers had a 3 some the first time was it like one minute and done?

[QUOTE=Bayarea Hotguy]
But, you failed to comment on the real reason I was posting on the board in the first place, you just saw fit to shoot your two cents in and make a smart-a** comment about something not even important to the post. Does it stroke your ego to try to appear more knowledgeable about the "sex trade"? Why not try to help out a fellow member, and not bash? Is this not what this board is about?

We can agree to disagree on the definition of "PRO". Let this be the end of this string, lesson learned.

You are supposed to be a senior member, set an example.[/QUOTE]


What exactly is this? You seem like you want to start something. Honestly I have no interest in it.

I know this hobby well, I have been doing it over 24 years.

She takes money for sex she is a pro even if she did it one time. Like it or not. If she does it repeatedly even more so. Part time pro is a pro.

Set an example? What is this? What are you trying to say, if you have an issue state it, where did I do or say anything that would NOT be setting an example? Because I disagree with you and your fantasy that some girl you pay for sex is somehow not a pro? Please.

lol,lol,
I`m just the other extreme 1 on 1 I have a hard time holding on. But with 2-chicks look out :) my main squeeze and I like swinging as well. I actually think she is a big help in pullin the cranny............

[QUOTE=Jim Rob] I don't like to share, but I would love to have two girls at once, but don't I could only last a minute.

one minute and done?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Sleazebum]I just got home from a GB myself! The place is clean and seems safe. The girls are VERY talented and clean. The other guys were a mix of several of us fat, old white guys, younger, slimmer white guys, and severl black guys of all shapes and sizes.

Cost is $80 per girl and today there were two of them so my total outlay was $160.

I got all the head and tail I wanted and came home exhausted and happy!

The record for muiltiple pops is now FOUR within the two hours period and Roger offers a $100 prize to the one who breaks the record. He is honest and I saw him pay the guy who hit the fourth nut today.

So, contact Roger and maybe I'll see you at the next GB!!!

TRUSTED SENIORS may PM me for more details if you want.

JJ
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I already have my appt set for Sunday! Hoping there are two girls that day and that there will be at least one hispanic!

[QUOTE=Brahmabull]

I know this hobby well, I have been doing it over 24 years.

She takes money for sex she is a pro even if she did it one time. Like it or not. If she does it repeatedly even more so. Part time pro is a pro.

Set an example? What is this? What are you trying to say, if you have an issue state it, where did I do or say anything that would NOT be setting an example? Because I disagree with you and your fantasy that some girl you pay for sex is somehow not a pro? Please.[/QUOTE]You must have some sort of learning disability, or reading deficiency, because what I disagreed with is the DEFINITION of the word "pro", you use it short for prostitute, so you say any woman who takes money for sex is a "pro" (prostitute), I use "pro" as short for "professional", (a woman whose SOLE source of income is from prostitution) and I said that most girls use it the same way, why do you think there are so many ads for "non pro" girls? YOUR usage is not the norm in Northern VA or DC.

There are no "non prostitutes" advertising on Back-Page or Craig's List Adult Services, "non prostitutes" are free, and advertise in the Casual Encounters section or on a dating site. So obviously a "non pro" on Back-Page means she is a "non-professional prostitute", or non pro.

Of freaking course anyone who takes sex for money is prostituting. I have no fantasies here. Can we end this or do you have to have the last word? Get a life and stop arguing with me dude.

Any Gb that are white only?

I think we can all agree that no one cares. "Pro" or "non-pro," it doesn't matter here, as long as she provides quality service. Now, granted, someone may have a preference for the girl who "doesn't really do this kind of thing," but that kind of information can be gained from PM's rather than having a useless argument over semantics in the public forum.

So to summarize: no one cares, kindly drop it.

[QUOTE=Bayarea Hotguy]You must have some sort of learning disability, or reading deficiency, because what I disagreed with is the DEFINITION of the word "pro", you use it short for prostitute, so you say any woman who takes money for sex is a "pro" (prostitute), I use "pro" as short for "professional", (a woman whose SOLE source of income is from prostitution) and I said that most girls use it the same way, why do you think there are so many ads for "non pro" girls? YOUR usage is not the norm in Northern VA or DC.

There are no "non prostitutes" advertising on Back-Page or Craig's List Adult Services, "non prostitutes" are free, and advertise in the Casual Encounters section or on a dating site. So obviously a "non pro" on Back-Page means she is a "non-professional prostitute", or non pro.

Of freaking course anyone who takes sex for money is prostituting. I have no fantasies here. Can we end this or do you have to have the last word? Get a life and stop arguing with me dude.[/QUOTE]