Korean Bar Reports

[QUOTE=Localmoko]Straying from the sex subject a little, here are some pointers on play. I love the play, more than the sex. The thrill of making a girl come in public is a real turn-on for me. If a girl dresses like a **** your chance of play is high. Pay attention to their dress that night, it's the best key. The prettier she is the more you will have to pay (she knows she's pretty). If she wearing pants, it's hands off I don't play, or not tonight it's that time of the month. Very common-sense. Sit at the bar, contact the girl and see which booth she takes you to. Back booth, good possibility, wide open booth, one drink and you should get outta there unless she is willing to move. When in a back booth, makes sure she knows you have money. She won't play unless she knows the potential of making money. At this point, we hit the downfall of man (or bar man). We think if the girl knows we have money, they won't play until they get a lot, wrong. All they know is, if they can't get your money the easy way "Flapping thier eyelashes" then they have to decide if they are willing to play. It's psychology. If they are not willing, you get your answer up front, and leave. She should start play after 1st drink. If she doesn't, leave, unless you are willing to drop some bucks (which is the purpose of this post, play for less pay). Remember it's your money against her will. It's you small brain against her knee magnets. We all keep buying drinks, thinking they will come around and let us touch for free. Sorry, won't happen. You actually defeat your own purpose because they mark you as a banker. So even if it's slow and they need to make money, you're viewed as a savior to thier $ situation rather than someone they know they gotta work hard to get you to stay. Get it.[/QUOTE]Localmoko,

Dude! You will make a player out of me, the perennial loser! Once again, thanks for a very insightful post.

Turboman

Checked out New Casino the other night and even on a week night this place is crowded. Havent been here for a few months and saw some hot new girls, but all of them were with customers. This place is like Cheers in Kalihi where the girl's customer is there when she comes in. Didnt see Sandra around, so I just hanged at the bar and just watched all the eye candy. ;)

[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]Eastt,

You're probably right! Sugar daddy seems closer than bf. The strange thing is, the girls would pay for all their essential stuff they did together. Meals out, gas money, his drinks at the bar, groceries, household items, even golf green fees 3 times a week. They would buy the guy clothes, cigarettes, and more. It almost seemed like the girl spent more on the guy, but the things the girl got from the guy were all the flashy, show-off stuff. I found this to be rather strange, but never really got into a indepth conversation with these guys because thay were mainly bar friends that I wouldn't hang out with outside the bar. Is this normal? How were your relationships with these girls? Anything we would call normal?[/QUOTE]

Not all the girls are the same. Some/many develop a weird sense of what a relationship is, and what it is they want and don't want from a man. It is about as warped a reality as the KB scene itself.

[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]Eastt,

You're probably right! Sugar daddy seems closer than bf. The strange thing is, the girls would pay for all their essential stuff they did together. Meals out, gas money, his drinks at the bar, groceries, household items, even golf green fees 3 times a week. They would buy the guy clothes, cigarettes, and more. It almost seemed like the girl spent more on the guy, but the things the girl got from the guy were all the flashy, show-off stuff. I found this to be rather strange, but never really got into a indepth conversation with these guys because thay were mainly bar friends that I wouldn't hang out with outside the bar. Is this normal? How were your relationships with these girls? Anything we would call normal?[/QUOTE]Actually, that is about right in the Korean bf/gf game. If the guy were a sugar daddy, he'd have to pay for everything and then buy her jewelry and bags...

K Girls like to do the showy stuff so other girls see that the guy is her property and thus, hands off. However, they will spend $$$ on their bfs. The payback is when its their birthday, Valentines or Xmas. Champagne is mandatory.

Guys,whats the big deal about Monalia? I went last night and was disappointed.Not one good looking chick in sight. I bought one auntie named Sarah 2 drinks,but only because she gave me a pretty good massage. She tried to get me to buy her another drink with the $17 I had left in my wallet. Said she needed it for cab fare home and got all pissy when I told her no. Should have gone to Suzie Q instead,saw a pretty hot looking one as I was getting in my car to leave.

In order for you to go to a KB/VB bar, is it mandatory that you need to drink? I mean I know that there's a reason for having a bar, and thats for people to drink at. Cause for me, I quit drinking a little over 9 years ago. Also I also did hear that if there are people that don't drink, mamasan tends to get mad cause the person is either wasting their time having you there and also losing money as well.

Thanks

[QUOTE=Jack Mehoff]Guys,whats the big deal about Monalia? I went last night and was disappointed.Not one good looking chick in sight. I bought one auntie named Sarah 2 drinks,but only because she gave me a pretty good massage. She tried to get me to buy her another drink with the $17 I had left in my wallet. Said she needed it for cab fare home and got all pissy when I told her no. Should have gone to Suzie Q instead,saw a pretty hot looking one as I was getting in my car to leave.[/QUOTE]One night, I popped into Monalia and Hi-Lilly, the girls were all old. Its a waste of time, and I don't care much for the girls at London Hub either. Just like you, I walked to my car, but popped my head into Suzie Q. Sitting at the bar with a customer was a stunning young girl, straight shoulder length highlighted hair with bangs, and big round eyes. I popped my head in 3X to check her out (as the bar is near the door). Each time, we exchanged glances, but alas, I was tapped out, and she looks mighty expen$ive.

Maybe that's who you saw too.

Turboman

I don't know why the treatment in these bars or even the VB bars you've visited. I always like to make it a point to sit at the bar for the 1st couple of visits and buy the bartender a drink. Some bars I'll go as far as buying mama a drink. Lets just say its money well spent. Being a familiar face to the bartenders is definitely a plus, and you also get to size up the girls when they get their drinks. Batenders rely on drinks from bar area patrons mainly because they cannot readily run off to a booth during their shift. Your $ will be well valued by them (1 drink per night is fine). Wait awhile, then buy them their drink, this gives you wiggle room when you come the next time so they know to be patient with you before they expect a drink. Bartenders have a lot of info on the girls. The following times you come in, they will know your face, and try to make space for you at the bar (no more uncomforatable standing by the door looking for a seat). Remember, mama is in business to make $, not to provided a place for men to just drink. So you must give her the impression that you are not their just to look. Anyway, works for me.

[QUOTE=John Ross]Actually, that is about right in the Korean bf/gf game. If the guy were a sugar daddy, he'd have to pay for everything and then buy her jewelry and bags...

K Girls like to do the showy stuff so other girls see that the guy is her property and thus, hands off. However, they will spend $$$ on their bfs. The payback is when its their birthday, Valentines or Xmas. Champagne is mandatory.[/QUOTE]I dated a stripper and she bought me a lot of stuff too, name brand clothes and other stuff (which honestly I didn't care much about, not my thing but the stuff I did like she wouldn't buy me), even bought me a new car. She was actually a really sweet girl. I also dated Korean hostest but she wasn't quite as giving. Just took care of living expenses.

However in both cases, not worth the drama that comes with dating one of these girls.

[QUOTE=Iliketowatch]Eastt,

You're probably right! Sugar daddy seems closer than bf. The strange thing is, the girls would pay for all their essential stuff they did together. Meals out, gas money, his drinks at the bar, groceries, household items, even golf green fees 3 times a week. They would buy the guy clothes, cigarettes, and more. It almost seemed like the girl spent more on the guy, but the things the girl got from the guy were all the flashy, show-off stuff. I found this to be rather strange, but never really got into a indepth conversation with these guys because thay were mainly bar friends that I wouldn't hang out with outside the bar. Is this normal? How were your relationships with these girls? Anything we would call normal?[/QUOTE]

my hostess gfs relationships were normal. first of all, i don't make enough money to be a sugar daddy... these girls know this. if they were anything but normal, then i wouldn't be involved with them--i couldn't afford it... only once has a kb gf asked me for a louisvuitton bag. none have asked me for champagne. most don't even want me at the bar that they work at. if i do go, they won't sit with me. they rather take the money of their customers than have me buy them drinks.

The corner bar on the other side of the parking lot from Monalia, Flamingo I think, has some young girls. They changed owners in Jan. and the new owner brought in some girls from town. Popped in on Tuesday during the day for a couple of drinks. Usually during the day theres only old ladies, but the day bartender was pretty young and looked really nice wearing a short skirt. There was only her and an old lady and they were just hanging at the other end of the bar with customers who were buying them drinks. Drank a couple of beers then left.

Relationships with these girls seem like russian roulette. Trying to find the few that are willing, then finding the ones from the litter that don't want you as a sugar daddy, just for GFE sex would break my bank. I always wondered what I could get if my wallet was as big as my gut, but hearing the posts, it sounds like I would get screwed (you know which way). I think we should always view these posts as general info, but we all know their are exceptions, and that is where the thrill and danger lies. I guess that's why I have resorted to just bar play. Question to the guys that had girlfriends. How do you keep from getting jealous when your girl still works in the bar?

Went to Cheers in the afternoon yesterday. There were a couple of girls, but the bartender has a killer body for an older lady and a nice face. She was wearing a backless dress that gave a really nice view of her good size tits every time she bent over to get a beer or something. I dont like drinking here at night so cant see if she plays at the table when her shift is over. Any of you sat with her?

You're right some of these girls maybe genuine, but us guys want the nice ones at home and play with the ****. We already view these girls as objects, so it's doomed from the begining. Once we get what we want thats it. There is a saying we don't feed the fish we hook.

[QUOTE=Eastt River]my hostess gfs relationships were normal. First of all, I don't make enough money to be a sugar daddy. These girls know this. If they were anything but normal, then I wouldn't be involved with them--I couldn't afford it. Only once has a kb gf asked me for a louisvuitton bag. None have asked me for champagne. Most don't even want me at the bar that they work at. If I do go, they won't sit with me. They rather take the money of their customers than have me buy them drinks. [/QUOTE]

I don't think so cause I don't drink sometimes. But you have to buy the girls drink if you not drinking. Well I tend to spend more more money when I'm drunk and somehow the girl start to look better.

[QUOTE=Jon Doh]In order for you to go to a KB/VB bar, is it mandatory that you need to drink? I mean I know that there's a reason for having a bar, and thats for people to drink at. Cause for me, I quit drinking a little over 9 years ago. Also I also did hear that if there are people that don't drink, mamasan tends to get mad cause the person is either wasting their time having you there and also losing money as well.

Thanks[/QUOTE]