CookyJar's Streetwalker Photos

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4148025]One thing that I don't do, is give out my phone number. I did it once and learned not to do it again. [/QUOTE]If you want a reliably consistent and regular thing with a girl, you need to be in touch by phone. A burner phone is the best option.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4148025]We, men, always believe we are setting the rules. Nothing can be further from the truth. If I made up the rules, women would be paying me. 😀.[/QUOTE]One maxim has always been true: the "golden rule.:" the one with the pussy makes the rules. The best we can hope for is to bend them a little.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4147996]I agree! Also! The term Sugar Baby lets the guy think he's getting something higher-up on the prostitution food chain. The sugar daddy / sugar baby hookup allows the guy to believe that he's getting something better than the average monger. Some people think that paying more, naturally gets them better quality.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]"Prostitution Food Chain. " I like that!

Sometimes you get more when you pay more and sometimes you don't. I know that when I have fished and do fish in the SB pond I get more gorgeous, sweet college-aged tail than I ever got when I was in college. To me they seemed innocent and brand new to the pay for play biz, which is what I was paying for. Maybe I could have found some of them on the corner the next day and had a pipe cleaning for a Jackson, but I doubt it. It is always possible that any of these SBs could eventually be had at bargain basement prices on the Ave. I have had SWs that were just as fine as any SB. So SW gems are clearly available. But I never had any SBs that were as awful as some of the SWs I have encountered. Like I said. Sometimes you get more when you pay more and sometimes you don't.

I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.

Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.

A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.

Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).

The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.

All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.

The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.

Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.

My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.

Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.

My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.

Good luck and stay safe.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.

Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation.

A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets.

Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).

The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.

All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.

The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.

Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.

My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.

Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.

My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.

Good luck and stay safe.[/QUOTE]You are absolutely 100% on the money IMHO and based on my experience. Sometimes we want filet mignon and sometimes a greasy burger and every now and then some wild boar. We usually but don't always get the quality we pay for but the little head wants what the little head wants, and sometimes the big head has a great time too.

It's all good my brothers!

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4148175] the labels reveal more about the monger than the girl.
I had a friend who always paid top dollar for everything. He would only buy Armani suits at the highest prices. I found an Armani in a thrift shop for 20 bucks. He was happy in his delusion that he only bought the best and I was happy to get a bargain. Same suit. Different perception and feeling. Perception is reality.[/QUOTE]It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.

Remember the movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, Trading Places. Remember the premise?

The storyline is a modern take on Mark Twain's, The Prince and the Pauper. If the Prince and the Pauper are interchangeable, should not the Princess and Raggedy Ann be interchangeable. Should not the same apply to women? The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.

It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.

Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.

Your friend's perception is delusional. It's all in his head. All other things being equal, an Armani suit is a Armani suit, whether it's bought on Rodeo Drive or Kensington Avenue.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4148879]It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.

Remember the movie with Eddie Murphy and Dan Aykroyd, Trading Places. Remember the premise?

The storyline is a modern take on Mark Twain's, The Prince and the Pauper. If the Prince and the Pauper are interchangeable, should not the Princess and Raggedy Ann be interchangeable. Should not the same apply to women? The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.

It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.

Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.

Your friend's perception is delusional. It's all in his head. All other things being equal, an Armani suit is a Armani suit, whether it's bought on Rodeo Drive or Kensington Avenue.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Yes, some SWs, including Jordan, might clean up pretty good with a shower, a pretty scent and a nice blouse and skirt. BUT. Will they bring you the genuine sweet innocence of a real college co-ed who just entered the pay for play game for the very first time? Looks are one thing. Personality and attitude are another. A few SW gems could fill this bill but certainly not nearly all. I admitted that there were some SWs who might make good SBs. That's how this whole discussion got started in the first place. I suggested that Jordan and Rain could be good examples of this. But let's not pretend that all pussy is the same. That's absurd. It just isn't. And it isn't just some perception or delusion. Some pussy is just worth more than others for a whole host of reasons that only partly have to do with what a girl looks like. Attitude, intelligence, sensuality and personality are just a few of the numerous characteristics that are important parts of the equation. Just because you don't choose to play in a pool of genuine college-aged nubile gorgeous and innocent sweeties doesn't make your choices of SWs on the Ave just the same or better. A few might be close, but they just aren't the same and no quantity of claim by you will make it so. That is not to say that they are lesser or inferior. They are simply choices we make. I like SWs. I like SBs. I like pussy of all varieties and prices. And sometimes you can have a high quality girl for a bargain price. But they are most definitely NOT "all the same. ". If they were all the same I would stick with one good one and not seek variety. But that's another subject called why have a SO? Viva la difference.

I also like SBs and perhaps the college girls. In Vegas on many of my 60 plus trips for work. It does get old. But the college girls there are plentiful and enjoy making extra money working their way thru school. I have had some great ones. More than a SW but so much cleaner no demands no rules just a good time. That is enjoyable.

There is a good advantage to multi forms of social media that girls use to find assistance. Some are just a totally normal girl who might need extra spending money. Not a girl who is Jonesing for drugs. I detest the girl who needs the drug money and is a pain in the ass with rules this and sometimes not the cleanest.

Thank you for all the wonderful posts. Keep up the good work. I enjoy visiting your thread.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4148181]If you want a reliably consistent and regular thing with a girl, you need to be in touch by phone. A burner phone is the best option.

One maxim has always been true: the "golden rule.:" the one with the pussy makes the rules. The best we can hope for is to bend them a little.[/QUOTE]The one paying makes the rules. When I get bored, I move on. There are millions out there for sale. We can choose from 1,000's whereas they take whatever comes their way.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]I am going to chime in on the SB vs SW debate.
Yes, I have met some gorgeous girls in Kensington and Camden. In fact, I have met gorgeous girls all across the country SW'ing. However, almost all of these girls smoke crack or shoot heroin. If you don't think SW'ers are smoking crack and shooting heroin you are out of your mind. Most SW'er girls have Hep C, HIV, etc. Many will rob you without hesitation. [/QUOTE]LOL. Hold on, wait one minute.

Are you implying that no Sugar baby uses drugs and that none are capable of robbery? Every so often it's in the news where some sugar baby and her boyfriend robs or setup some dopey un-suspecting guy. College girls and Sugar babies can't get and pass-on HepC, HIV and etc. Is that what you think?

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]A majority of SB's on the other hand don't use any drugs other than alcohol and smoke pot. I would say 50%+ SBies have met don't even smoke pot or drink. Many of them are college girls who want to have extra money to make their car insurance payment or buy concert tickets. [/QUOTE]Where have you been? The majority of girls on drugs and working in the sex trades started their habits in the suburbs, or at college. They start off popping pills and smoking pot while partying. Where do you think these girl come from, the ghetto? Ghetto girls know better. It is part of the illusion, that the sugar baby most present. She has to persuade you that she is clean, wholesome and worth the extra money she asking.

Most streetwalkers claim they just need money for the babysitter, food or rent. ROFLMBAO.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]Many of the SBies I have met remind me of hot girls I dated during college. In fact, I found myself wondering how many of my ex's may have been SBies. Although, without the websites, probably not as many as today. I have always enjoyed 2-4 hours with SBies (I always decide when we are done).
The SBies are truly rookies. They are nervous, they never ask for money upfront and they never rush. After a couple hours together they start opening up about their lives. Usually, they talk about their bills, annoying friends and what concert they want to go see.[/QUOTE]Many of the Sugar babies you've met are just very good actress.

The girls working in the sex trade who are serious and have been working for any length of time are better actress than any of the ones you see in the movies. And, Liars! Jesus! Can these girls lie? Believe what you want, but if you believe sugar babies don't lie I have a bridge in New York I would like to sell you.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]All of the SBies I have met are clean, well manicured and look like college sorority girls. Even the most beautiful SWer usually has dirty socks.[/QUOTE]Take part of that $200 that you were going to spend on a sugar baby and rent a room. Let het take a shower, put on some dollar store make-up and perfume and save yourself a few bucks. Plus! I am willing to bet she will out fuck any novice college sugar baby. Don't forget to wrap that w'rascal.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]The SBies text and communicate between dates, which is fine because I use burner phones. They are more like an actual friends with benefits arrangement.[/QUOTE]Who needs that? If I needed to talk to someone I'd talk to my wife or side piece.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]Now, the SBies are pricier. $200-500 a visit. Remember, this is a multiple hour visit. After the first visit the price drops. I can get a BBBJ on the avenue for $20.[/QUOTE]Wow! Just think what you could get if you got out of the car, rented a room, an extra $10 and a Big Mac.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]My experience is the cost of a SB is considerably less than a high dollar escort, but more than a SWer. And with the SB, everything is on the menu.[/QUOTE]Everything is on the menu? I doubt that. Even your better looking streetwalkers think their shit does not stink. But, most Streetwalker will go way farther than the average non-pro. Streetwalker think that most of their clients want what they cannot get at home. True or not, it is the reason streetwalkers work harder. Your average streetwalker wants repeat clients and regulars if they can get them. IMHO, streetwalkers do it better.

[QUOTE=DoNotDeevee8;4148414]Just my two cents. I am not promoting one over another. I love all pussy. I am posting this while pumping gas on my way to the Avenue to find a SWer. To me, SWer and a $10 house can be a good time. Just like a fresh, young college girl at the Feathernest for a few hours can be fun.
My #1 criteria is that I like strange, and I like to try new things. There are times where I prefer a SWer over a SB and vice versa.
Good luck and stay safe.[/QUOTE]Whatever floats you boat. Every guy is a little different.

No offense intended. I am just kidding around. I appreciated your input.

CookyJar.

P.S.: I live for strange. It's a little like being hooked on dope I'm always chasing the better high, looking for the better piece.

PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.

In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4149223]
PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.

In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.[/QUOTE]I would like to find her one day soon.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4148946]Yes, some SWs, including Jordan, might clean up pretty good with a shower, a pretty scent and a nice blouse and skirt. BUT. Will they bring you the genuine sweet innocence of a real college co-ed who just entered the pay for play game for the very first time? [/QUOTE]It's all a game. A illusion and part of the tricks they play. They can all do it, if the need arises. They can make you believe that it's the first time, every time.

I am sorry my friend, but I most disagree. Pussy is Pussy. If looks are in the eye of the beholder, then good pussy is in the mind of the fucker.

You stick your dick in her and she's a so, so fuck. Another guy comes along; sticks his dick in the same girl and she's the cat meow. She might be tight to me and loose to you, but in the end, it's the same pussy that we fucked. Plus! On any given day the pussy may seem different from the day before. Sometimes it's you and some days it may be her – the pussy doesn't change, we change. We are the difference, the pussy doesn't change – it's the same.

How many times has this happened to you? You meet a girl, you fuck her and it's great. You come back the next week for some more and you fuck her again, it's the same pussy, but the worse fuck. It's not the pussy that's different; it's all in the mind. Maybe she was in the mood the first time or maybe she likes fucking strange. Her pussy hasn't changed, she has.

I was fucking this girl regularly three or four times a week, for about a month. We worked together. The pussy was great. One day, we're on the job at night and she comes to my office, and we fuck. Worse fuck ever. Afterwards I asked her was there a problem. She said to me, "You're married aren't you. " I said yeah, I thought you knew (Everyone on the job knew). We talked a little. I took her home and spent the night – the good pussy was back. There wasn't anything wrong with the pussy. There was something wrong with her head.

I could give you plenty of examples. Here let me give you another one. There was this girl we were a couple for a few months. Basically she got on my nerves, so we broke up. I really didn't like her. Every once in a while, maybe two or three times a year, she called and come over. We'd fuck and then I wouldn't see her for a while. It didn't cost me anything, she could fuck and that's all we ever did. Maybe a year goes by and out of the blue she calls and asks to come over. We fucked twice that night and again in the morning. We are lying in bed and I am tired of her, waiting for her to get up and leave. She ask me about the night before, had I noticed any difference. She points to a scar and says she has had a hysterectomy. She wants to know if I could tell the difference. I asked her if they had taken out her clitoris. She said no, just her uterus. I said I wasn't using her uterus, I wasn't going that deep. I told her she still had the parts I liked and if it was good for her, it certainly was good to me. After she had gone I thought to myself, what a nut, we'd mostly done anal – she had a great little ass.

Pussy is pussy, Freud knew that. Sex is all in the head, the mind is our strangest sexual tool.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4149318]It's all a game. A illusion and part of the tricks they play. They can all do it, if the need arises. They can make you believe that it's the first time, every time.

I am sorry my friend, but I most disagree. Pussy is Pussy. If looks are in the eye of the beholder, then good pussy is in the mind of the fucker.

You stick your dick in her and she's a so, so fuck. Another guy comes along; sticks his dick in the same girl and she's the cat meow. She might be tight to me and loose to you, but in the end, it's the same pussy that we fucked. Plus! On any given day the pussy may seem different from the day before. Sometimes it's you and some days it may be her the pussy doesn't change, we change. We are the difference, the pussy doesn't change it's the same.

How many times has this happened to you? You meet a girl, you fuck her and it's great. You come back the next week for some more and you fuck her again, it's the same pussy, but the worse fuck. It's not the pussy that's different; it's all in the mind. Maybe she was in the mood the first time or maybe she likes fucking strange. Her pussy hasn't changed, she has.

[/QUOTE]Its the thrill of the hunt and finding something new who doesn't try to get over. So many times I found that cool one but, its becomes more of the same and then onto the next one.

[QUOTE=Amp Guide;4148971]I also like SBs and perhaps the college girls. In Vegas on many of my 60 plus trips for work. It does get old. But the college girls there are plentiful and enjoy making extra money working their way thru school. I have had some great ones. More than a SW but so much cleaner no demands no rules just a good time. That is enjoyable.
There is a good advantage to multi forms of social media that girls use to find assistance. Some are just a totally normal girl who might need extra spending money. Not a girl who is Jonesing for drugs. I detest the girl who needs the drug money and is a pain in the ass with rules this and sometimes not the cleanest.
Thank you for all the wonderful posts. Keep up the good work. I enjoy visiting your thread.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the input. Come by anytime.

I picked up a girl once, she was young, pretty and so innocence in looks and actions. I drove around the block and for some reason, I changed my mind. We were stopped at a busy intersection. She grabbed my keys out of my ignition and demanded fifty dollars. I grabbed her by the back of her neck; I'm a pretty big guy. A black girl who was standing nearby came over. That young, innocent little white girl turned into a cussing fussing little hood rat. She called me everything, but a child of god. She had the worst mouth that I've ever heard on anybody and I'm a Marine (Once a marine, always a marine). I didn't want to hit the little thing, so I offered the black girl $20 to get my keys out of her other hand.

The black girl retrieved my keys and I gave her the $20. She also remove the little she devil from my car.

A week later, I meet up with this very same little white girl. We don't remember each other. Over time we dated 8 or 9 times. Somewhere during that time, I remembered her from that night. I have some great pictures of her and they are on this site. I won't show them or mention her name, may she rest in peace. I will never forget the lesson she taught me. I'll never let my guard down.

Just think about it for a minute. When have college girls ever been innocent? Maybe in the 1800's. They weren't all that innocent when I was in school (but maybe that's because I went to an all-black college). They weren't too innocent when my kids attended college. Think about it, how innocent can they be if they are fucking you. Trust me; it's all part of the game. Would you give them your hard earned money if they acted butt wild? They are just giving you what you're paying for. Are these the same sweet and innocent little college girls that I see flashing their tits during Mardi Gras or during spring break. Just think, what's the definition of sweet and innocent? Is it fucking old men for money? No! Sweet and innocent little college girls just don't do that. A good girl won't suck your dick or let you butt fuck her. That's what bad girls do.

They act sweet and innocent for your sake.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4149385]Thanks for the input. Come by anyt

I picked up a girl once, she was young, pretty and so innocence in looks and actions. I drove around the block and for some reason, I changed my mind. We were stopped at a busy intersection. She grabbed my keys out of my ignition and demanded fifty dollars. I grabbed her by the back of her neck; I'm a pretty big guy. A black girl who was standing nearby came over. That young, innocent little white girl turned into a cussing fussing little hood rat. She called me everything, but a child of god. She had the worst mouth that I've ever heard on anybody and I'm a Marine (Once a marine, always a marine). I didn't want to hit the little thing, so I offered the black girl $20 to get my keys out of her other hand.

The black girl retrieved my keys and I gave her the $20. She also remove the little she devil from my car.

A week later, I meet up with this very same little white girl. We don't remember each other. Over time we dated 8 or 9 times. Somewhere during that time, I remembered her from that night. I have some great pictures of her and they are on this site. I won't show them or mention her name, may she rest in peace. I will never forget the lesson she taught me. I'll never let my guard down.

Just think about it for a minute. When have college girls ever been innocent? Maybe in the 1800's. They weren't all that innocent when I was in school (but maybe that's because I went to an all-black college)..[/QUOTE]My keys in the ignition can't be removed unless I am in park so how could she remove your key?

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4149223]LOL. Hold on, wait one minute.

Are you implying that no Sugar baby uses drugs and that none are capable of robbery? Every so often it's in the news where some sugar baby and her boyfriend robs or setup some dopey un-suspecting guy. College girls and Sugar babies can't get and pass-on HepC, HIV and etc. Is that what you think?[/QUOTE]No, what I am saying is a majority of SugarBabies are not on dope or smoking coke. While a majority of SWers are on dope or smoking coke. But of course there are SugarBabies on dope and coke, just like there is an occasional SW who isn't.

And anyone can rob you, but the chances of getting setup change greatly depending on where you are at or who you are with.

I am not disagreeing that the SBs are better actresses than SWs. But guess what, Julia Roberts makes more than my loser sister-in-law who likes to take small parts in community plays.

No, what I am saying is a majority of SugarBabies are not on dope or smoking coke. While a majority of SWers are on dope or smoking coke. But of course there are SugarBabies on dope and coke, just like there is an occasional SW who isn't.

In you are in the life style then major meds will come into play soon. Almost all start with NO CIM, back door or COF. All will resort to the the later sooner or later for the money. It comes with the territory. We are dealing with damaged goods that spoil.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4149223]LOL. Hold on, wait one minute.

Are you implying that no Sugar baby uses drugs and that none are capable of robbery? Every so often it's in the news where some sugar baby and her boyfriend robs or setup some dopey un-suspecting guy. College girls and Sugar babies can't get and pass-on HepC, HIV and etc. Is that what you think?

Where have you been? The majority of girls on drugs and working in the sex trades started their habits in the suburbs, or at college. They start off popping pills and smoking pot while partying. Where do you think these girl come from, the ghetto? Ghetto girls know better. It is part of the illusion, that the sugar baby most present. She has to persuade you that she is clean, wholesome and worth the extra money she asking.

Most streetwalkers claim they just need money for the babysitter, food or rent. ROFLMBAO.

Many of the Sugar babies you've met are just very good actress.

The girls working in the sex trade who are serious and have been working for any length of time are better actress than any of the ones you see in the movies. And, Liars! Jesus! Can these girls lie? Believe what you want, but if you believe sugar babies don't lie I have a bridge in New York I would like to sell you.

Take part of that $200 that you were going to spend on a sugar baby and rent a room. Let het take a shower, put on some dollar store make-up and perfume and save yourself a few bucks. Plus! I am willing to bet she will out fuck any novice college sugar baby. Don't forget to wrap that w'rascal.

Who needs that? If I needed to talk to someone I'd talk to my wife or side piece.

Wow! Just think what you could get if you got out of the car, rented a room, an extra $10 and a Big Mac.

Everything is on the menu? I doubt that. Even your better looking streetwalkers think their shit does not stink. But, most Streetwalker will go way farther than the average non-pro. Streetwalker think that most of their clients want what they cannot get at home. True or not, it is the reason streetwalkers work harder. Your average streetwalker wants repeat clients and regulars if they can get them. IMHO, streetwalkers do it better.

Whatever floats you boat. Every guy is a little different.

No offense intended. I am just kidding around. I appreciated your input.

CookyJar.

P.S.: I live for strange. It's a little like being hooked on dope I'm always chasing the better high, looking for the better piece.

PSS: I found Jordan off of Kensington Avenue near Huntingdon station, while I was looking for Rain. At the time I was taking a shot, a long shot, TOFTT, dressed in baggy clothing, she didn't look like much. She was certainly worth the effort. Sorry, but I have no phone number for her. Maybe one of the other fellows who stated that they know her can help out with additional information and a more detailed review.

In my book, Jordan is a keeper. Look at her pictures, see the smile, the dancing, the different poses and her expression she was having fun and that made the session fun.[/QUOTE]Never perceived a real looker in Kensington or even North Philly. In fact I never saw a real true beauty face to face. Been to Delilah's, Hooters; most all Strip clubs and Atlantic City. The only one that marry / obtain true hotties are musicians, Hollywood stars, or billionaires. The common man has no access to the elite beauty. Heck 10 k of photos on any site and not one true beauty. Most are the girl next door.

[QUOTE=NvrStlPhilly;4149577]My keys in the ignition can't be removed unless I am in park so how could she remove your key?[/QUOTE]Wow! You really got me thinking for a minute.

This happened at least ten years ago. It was a early model Ford Explorer. We were at the intersection of Kensington and Summerset. I pulled over in the bus stop area, put the car in park and turned to her to explain that her services wouldn't be needed. I cannot remember if I'd already turned the engine off or if she turned the switch when she grabbed the keys.

Later that night, I thought about it. That wasn't the first time she pulled that stunt. She was quick, deliberate and knew exactly what she was doing.

I first came down to Kensington Avenue in 2006. This must have happened in 2007-2008. The memory fades.

CookyJar.

I didn't know Philadelphia had a thread dedicated to Sugar Babies. I did a little reading last night. Very interesting! Very interesting, indeed. 🤔.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4149385]Just think about it for a minute. When have college girls ever been innocent? Maybe in the 1800's. They weren't all that innocent when I was in school (but maybe that's because I went to an all-black college). They weren't too innocent when my kids attended college. Think about it, how innocent can they be if they are fucking you. Trust me; it's all part of the game. Would you give them your hard earned money if they acted butt wild? They are just giving you what you're paying for. Are these the same sweet and innocent little college girls that I see flashing their tits during Mardi Gras or during spring break. Just think, what's the definition of sweet and innocent? Is it fucking old men for money? No! Sweet and innocent little college girls just don't do that. A good girl won't suck your dick or let you butt fuck her. That's what bad girls do.

They act sweet and innocent for your sake.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]It may be an act, but IMHO it can be worth the price of admission. I pay to see actresses in the movies all the time. A real live one squealing on top of me and calling me daddy? Just the thought puts a pup tent in my trousers.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4151047]I didn't know Philadelphia had a thread dedicated to Sugar Babies. I did a little reading last night. Very interesting! Very interesting, indeed. 🤔.[/QUOTE]Most of my sugar is down here in Richmond. But my business ventures take me to eastern PA all the time and I sample all sorts of pleasures there as well. I don't know why the Richmond sugar thread seems to be so large and detailed and has a long tradition and history. I would have imagined that there is much more sugar to be had in such a much larger metropolitan area as Philly.

Nevertheless, you should try some real sugar from the bowl sometime CJ. It's a lot pricier than the Ave and maybe as you say, it's just acting, but your perspective on it from real experience in comparison to Kensington Ave SWs would be quite interesting indeed.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4148879]It's all the same. Underneath, it's all the same.

The wh0re is interchangeable with the housewife. The college student is interchangeable with the call girl. The streetwalker is interchangeable with the Sugar Baby.

It is all window dressing. A nice shower, some make-up, a little perfume, a book bag across her shoulder, a little preparation and Jordan could walk any college courtyard and no one would guess what she was selling.

Be realistic, when the best looking starlet steps out of the shower, slips into bed and under the sheets and the light are off, it's just pussy. Nothing more and nothing less, it's all the same. Underneath, they are all the same, beautiful women.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]I respectfully disagree. Don't get me wrong. I like beautiful women, SWs, SBs, whatever. But, in my own experience I have never run across a SW who was even close to being as good an "actress" as a SB. I have been with literally hundreds of both. Maybe I have not been with the right ones. Maybe the fact that so many of the SWs were nodding off in my car from their last bundle, or Jonesing for the next bundle, or had pussies that smelled like week old fish, or had rashes and pimples and scars and bruises that would defy make-up, or missing or rotten teeth when they smiled, or straggly oily hair, or ragged clothes, or smelly socks, or dirty hands and broken and filthy fingernails, or the sight of the track marks dulled the suspension of my disbelief. Whatever the reason, if I am handing out Oscars for best performance by an actress none of the finalists would ever in a million years include a SW, unless the performance was as a SW. SBs, on the other hand, win Oscars for acting like SBs almost all the time.

I have Jordan's phone number if anyone wants to trade.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4151320]… you should try some real sugar from the bowl sometime CJ. It's a lot pricier than the Ave and maybe as you say, it's just acting, but your perspective on it from real experience in comparison to Kensington Ave SWs would be quite interesting indeed.[/QUOTE]A few years ago I thought about dabbling in the Asian, Massage Parlor action. I read though the Massage Parlor Reports thread and by interacting with the guys who frequent the Asian Parlors; I got a ton of good advice. Unfortunately, I was never able to pull the trigger. After all the reading and with all the suggestions, there seemed to be the hint of a underlying theme running though the thread. At $160 a trip, the process was hit and miss. Sometimes there is a lineup, sometimes there is not, sometimes the provider was old, sometimes she was old by looked young, sometimes the shower was great but the service sucked, sometimes the service was excellent and the shower sucked, Sometimes the service was rushed within the paid for hour, and etc. , etc. , and etc. And! Even when the report was favorable, the girl shown in the Massage Parlor ad and the girl reported on seemed TGTBT. IMHO. All it would cost me to find out was a Buck, sixty. Plus! And, this is a big PLUS. I am black and if I am remembering currectly from my overseas adventures, not all Asians are friendly with Black.

After reading some of the Philly Sugar thread, I have come to a similar conclusion. Time and money is not everything, but it seems like sugar daddies spend / waste a lot of both. $200 to $500 for what? What exactly would I get for, let us say, $300 bucks? Would the $300 be for one date or a month's service? Keep in mind that I sometimes see three, four and maybe 6 different girls a month. Sometimes they are two girl sessions and they are almost always longer than an hour. BBBJ's, CFS, and sometimes (even though I'm not interested) anal is offered. Rent, gas, food and service is acquired for approximately less than $300.

2018 was a slow year; I took the pictures of 25 girls – at $300, that would be $7,500. That seems a bit much, considering that it's all the same thing. LOL.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4151361]I respectfully disagree. Don't get me wrong. I like beautiful women, SWs, SBs, whatever. But, in my own experience I have never run across a SW who was even close to being as good an "actress" as a SB. I have been with literally hundreds of both. Maybe I have not been with the right ones. Maybe the fact that so many of the SWs were nodding off in my car from their last bundle, or Jonesing for the next bundle, or had pussies that smelled like week old fish, or had rashes and pimples and scars and bruises that would defy make-up, or missing or rotten teeth when they smiled, or straggly oily hair, or ragged clothes, or smelly socks, or dirty hands and broken and filthy fingernails, or the sight of the track marks dulled the suspension of my disbelief. Whatever the reason, if I am handing out Oscars for best performance by an actress none of the finalists would ever in a million years include a SW, unless the performance was as a SW. SBs, on the other hand, win Oscars for acting like SBs almost all the time.[/QUOTE]I respectfully agree.

When I see a streetwalker, a internet provider, an escort, a sugar baby, someone a little down on their luck or any poor sap I think to myself; there but for the grace of god goes a housewife and mother, someone's sister, a nurse, doctor and whatever.


They are all the same.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4151041]Wow! You really got me thinking for a minute.

This happened at least ten years ago. It was a early model Ford Explorer. We were at the intersection of Kensington and Summerset. I pulled over in the bus stop area, put the car in park and turned to her to explain that her services wouldn't be needed. I cannot remember if I'd already turned the engine off or if she turned the switch when she grabbed the keys.

Later that night, I thought about it. That wasn't the first time she pulled that stunt. She was quick, deliberate and knew exactly what she was doing.

I first came down to Kensington Avenue in 2006. This must have happened in 2007-2008. The memory fades.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]A girl took my keys once and ever since, I carry a spare set.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4152555]A few years ago I thought about dabbling in the Asian, Massage Parlor action. I read though the Massage Parlor Reports thread and by interacting with the guys who frequent the Asian Parlors; I got a ton of good advice. Unfortunately, I was never able to pull the trigger. After all the reading and with all the suggestions, there seemed to be the hint of a underlying theme running though the thread. At $160 a trip, the process was hit and miss. Sometimes there is a lineup, sometimes there is not, sometimes the provider was old, sometimes she was old by looked young, sometimes the shower was great but the service sucked, sometimes the service was excellent and the shower sucked, Sometimes the service was rushed within the paid for hour, and etc. , etc. , and etc. And! Even when the report was favorable, the girl shown in the Massage Parlor ad and the girl reported on seemed TGTBT. IMHO. All it would cost me to find out was a Buck, sixty. Plus! And, this is a big PLUS. I am black and if I am remembering currectly from my overseas adventures, not all Asians are friendly with Black.[/QUOTE]I hear you on this one. I visited AMPs for quite a while. It can be hit or miss. There were only a few AMPs where I could ever get consistently good service in line with my expectations. One in particular comes to mind, but only because there was a very cute girl there named Kelly who was a gem of a gem and worth every penny of the 160 total I spent there. She was absolutely one of the best pieces of ass I ever had. Unfortunately AMPs tend to change out their girls like I change the oil in my car. Kelly was only there for a few months and then she was gone. I will probably still try AMPs because hope springs eternal. But I seriously doubt I will ever find anything so lovely and totally sexually satisfying in mind, body and spirit as Kelly.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4152555]After reading some of the Philly Sugar thread, I have come to a similar conclusion. Time and money is not everything, but it seems like sugar daddies spend / waste a lot of both. $200 to $500 for what? What exactly would I get for, let us say, $300 bucks? Would the $300 be for one date or a month's service? Keep in mind that I sometimes see three, four and maybe 6 different girls a month. Sometimes they are two girl sessions and they are almost always longer than an hour. BBBJ's, CFS, and sometimes (even though I'm not interested) anal is offered. Rent, gas, food and service is acquired for approximately less than $300.

2018 was a slow year; I took the pictures of 25 girls at $300, that would be $7,500. That seems a bit much, considering that it's all the same thing. LOL.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]I hear you on this one too. I didn't start out in this game with SBs. I started with SWs. Plus I didn't always have the funds for regular SBs like I do now. You are totally correct that it can cost you upwards of 300+ a date for a decent SB, plus incidentals like a hotel room if you don't use her place and dinners and candy and flowers, etc. The total expense can be daunting. I can afford it so what the hell. And SB pussy IMHO is the sweetest you can buy. As I have said before I never got so much gorgeous college-aged tail when I was in college as I do now. However, I am still a man who likes variety. I still go to strip clubs and have great success with "SB dating" strippers. See my recent post on this subject:[URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?10729-The-Sugar-World&p=4140951#post4140951[/URL]

I still like to troll for SWs. I see UTRs that advertise on line. I go to MPs. I am bold enough to recruit civvies to drop their drawers for some extra cash. In other words, I am one horndog who can't seem to get enough of everything to be had.

The only point I will agree to disagree with you about is that they are all the same. I like all of them for different reasons. Just as I like different things for breakfast: I adore eggs benedict and filet and lobster scrambled eggs. But sometimes I just want a bowl of oatmeal. Are they the same? No. Do they cost the same? No. Do I want all of them anyway? Yes. Variety for me truly is the spice of life especially where pussy is concerned.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4151041]We were at the intersection of Kensington and Summerset. I pulled over in the bus stop area, put the car in park and turned to her to explain that her services wouldn't be needed. I cannot remember if I'd already turned the engine off or if she turned the switch when she grabbed the keys.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]I have only had this happen to me once many years ago on a stroll in Tampa. I picked up a SW and thought better of it when I saw her up close in the seat beside me. Tried to drop her off at the next corner and slipped her a 5 for her trouble and she tried o shake me down for 40. I laughed and told her to be happy with what I offered. She tried to pull my keys out. When I stopped her she opened the glove box grabbed a fistful of my papers (registration, insurance) and tried to get our of the car with them. I tried to get them from her and she started swinging wildly at me like a windmill. I backhanded her hard, grabbed my papers, pushed her against the door, opened it and literally kicked her out.

Several lessons to be learned here. Lock your glove box. Don"t have anything you want to keep within reach of the passenger seat. And always be prepared for a possible psycho reaction. Also, keep a spare key in your wallet. That also helps if you ever lock yourself out with the keys inside.

My newest car is keyless. One less potential SW problem to deal with.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4152555]A few years ago I thought about dabbling in the Asian, Massage Parlor action. I read though the Massage Parlor Reports thread and by interacting with the guys who frequent the Asian Parlors; I got a ton of good advice. Unfortunately, I was never able to pull the trigger. After all the reading and with all the suggestions, there seemed to be the hint of a underlying theme running though the thread. At $160 a trip, the process was hit and miss. Sometimes there is a lineup, sometimes there is not, sometimes the provider was old, sometimes she was old by looked young, sometimes the shower was great but the service sucked, sometimes the service was excellent and the shower sucked, Sometimes the service was rushed within the paid for hour, and etc. , etc. , and etc. And! Even when the report was favorable, the girl shown in the Massage Parlor ad and the girl reported on seemed TGTBT. IMHO. All it would cost me to find out was a Buck, sixty. Plus! And, this is a big PLUS. I am black and if I am remembering currectly from my overseas adventures, not all Asians are friendly with Black.

After reading some of the Philly Sugar thread, I have come to a similar conclusion. Time and money is not everything, but it seems like sugar daddies spend / waste a lot of both. $200 to $500 for what? What exactly would I get for, let us say, $300 bucks? Would the $300 be for one date or a month's service? Keep in mind that I sometimes see three, four and maybe 6 different girls a month. Sometimes they are two girl sessions and they are almost always longer than an hour. BBBJ's, CFS, and sometimes (even though I'm not interested) anal is offered. Rent, gas, food and service is acquired for approximately less than $300.

2018 was a slow year; I took the pictures of 25 girls at $300, that would be $7,500. That seems a bit much, considering that it's all the same thing. LOL.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]When I get a streetwalker for $30-$50 and it sucks, no big deal.

My buddy spends $250 or more and not everytime does he have good things to say.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4153442]I have only had this happen to me once many years ago on a stroll in Tampa. I picked up a SW and thought better of it when I saw her up close in the seat beside me. Tried to drop her off at the next corner and slipped her a 5 for her trouble and she tried o shake me down for 40. I laughed and told her to be happy with what I offered. She tried to pull my keys out. When I stopped her she opened the glove box grabbed a fistful of my papers (registration, insurance) and tried to get our of the car with them. I tried to get them from her and she started swinging wildly at me like a windmill. I backhanded her hard, grabbed my papers, pushed her against the door, opened it and literally kicked her out.

Several lessons to be learned here. Lock your glove box. Don"t have anything you want to keep within reach of the passenger seat. And always be prepared for a possible psycho reaction. Also, keep a spare key in your wallet. That also helps if you ever lock yourself out with the keys inside.

My newest car is keyless. One less potential SW problem to deal with.[/QUOTE]I went to a hotel room once and the pimp placed two girls there. I had a great session with one and the other started talking crap to me and said she would hit me.

I said I would call the cops and she said never.

I looked at her and said, I was single, and there were things in the room that would get her a felony arrest.

Believe me, any cops that would come would love a felony bust.

[QUOTE=BMong1;4151756]I have Jordan's phone number if anyone wants to trade.[/QUOTE]I will gladly trade every number I have for Jordan's number.

[QUOTE=PartyTimeGuy;4148429]You are absolutely 100% on the money IMHO and based on my experience. Sometimes we want filet mignon and sometimes a greasy burger and every now and then some wild boar. We usually but don't always get the quality we pay for but the little head wants what the little head wants, and sometimes the big head has a great time too.
It's all good my brothers![/QUOTE]There is a difference between weather and climate.

I think that's where the vast majority of us make our mistake.

In your calculations, you must consider this. How fortunate, with the luck of the draw, we Americans are. For much of the world, all meat is a luxury. The choice between steak and hamburger is non-existing in most countries. Be it steak, rice, tofu, crocodile, California roll, homemade gruel or wild boar, it's all food. Steak or hamburger, when considered at there basic level, are equals. They are both food.

As Americans we are extremely lucky. Black, White, Hispanic, blondes, brunette, PAWGs, spinners, MILF, non-pros, streetwalkers, Sugarbabies and on and on and on, etc., and etc. , our choices seem almost infinite. We are fortunate indeed to have such a wide range of choices in both foods and pussies.

All pussy is pussy. However, there's a big difference between mongering for streetwalkers and mongering for Sugar Babies.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4104624]Jojo tells me about her aunt's house, where we could get a room. It turns out that it is two blocks away from the house where I met Vicki. It is in the same neighborhood and within walking distance of Old York Road. (I thought that I may be getting closer to finding out where the girls who use to walk Old York Road, now hang out)
While I was being led into the room, I passed a very pretty young lady who gave me the eye. She could have been black or a caramel skinned Hispanic. There was also a pretty white young lady, standing in the bathroom doorway (who also gave me the eye). Taken an opportunity to glance around and observe my surroundings, I noticed that in the room opposite ours, there were a number of females lying and resting on a bed
he promised to introduce me to the other girl later and made a point of mentioning that there was another, very pretty white girl that I should meet.
CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Since my encounter with Jojo, I have made two returned trips to her aunt's house. I went back the first time to reintroduce myself and to make sure that I would be welcomed back, should I return and wished to rent a room. I returned a second time, hoping to meet with any of the girls that I had seen during my visit with Jojo. None of those girls were available. Lucky for me, I was introduced to Josephine. Josephine had not been there on the day I first visited with Jojo. Had she been there, I probably would have chosen one of the spinners over her. This just go to show you how powerful luck and chance can be. I doubt seriously whether anyone of those other girls could have provided better service.

I do like the spinners, but good service is my first priority. As an equal Opportunity Monger, I will take a shapely, pretty PAWG, any day.

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4157766]There is a difference between weather and climate.

I think that's where the vast majority of us make our mistake.

In your calculations, you must consider this. How fortunate, with the luck of the draw, we Americans are. For much of the world, all meat is a luxury. The choice between steak and hamburger is non-existing in most countries. Be it steak, rice, tofu, crocodile, California roll, homemade gruel or wild boar, it's all food. Steak or hamburger, when considered at there basic level, are equals. They are both food.

As Americans we are extremely lucky. Black, White, Hispanic, blondes, brunette, PAWGs, spinners, MILF, non-pros, streetwalkers, Sugarbabies and on and on and on, etc., and etc. , our choices seem almost infinite. We are fortunate indeed to have such a wide range of choices in both foods and pussies.

All pussy is pussy. However, there's a big difference between mongering for streetwalkers and mongering for Sugar Babies.

Since my encounter with Jojo, I have made two returned trips to her aunt's house. I went back the first time to reintroduce myself and to make sure that I would be welcomed back, should I return and wished to rent a room. I returned a second time, hoping to meet with any of the girls that I had seen during my visit with Jojo. None of those girls were available. Lucky for me, I was introduced to Josephine. Josephine had not been there on the day I first visited with Jojo. Had she been there, I probably would have chosen one of the spinners over her. This just go to show you how powerful luck and chance can be. I doubt seriously whether anyone of those other girls could have provided better service.

I do like the spinners, but good service is my first priority. As an equal Opportunity Monger, I will take a shapely, pretty PAWG, any day.

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Me too. Instant wood without a pill when I saw her pics. I almost came. Keep up the good work CJ!

[QUOTE=WasAJones;4155095]Arrived at a house near Opry Mills. Young AA male emerged from the side yard with a handgun. Robbed of 200. Threatened to kill me. Just so you guys know.
[URL]https://www.seeking.com/member/6fa1b897-3962-44ca-a46a-f397550efd22[/URL][/QUOTE]I got this quote from the USASexGuide, Tennessee, Nashville, Seeking Arrangement (SA) thread. I hope they don't mind.

When comparing mongering for Streetwalkers with other methods of mongering, the dangers inherit with socializing with streetwalkers are always mentioned.

The above quote should remind us that there are dangers involved in every form of mongering. Knock on wood; I have never been in any danger, although I have been in a number of places where I wouldn't suggest others go.

I believe that is the key. Never go anywhere or do anything that is beyond your own personal comforted level.

CookyJar.

[B]...to the missing North Philly stroll.[/B]

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4104624]Jojo tells me about her aunt's house, where we could get a room. It turns out that it is two blocks away from the house where I met Vicki. It is in the same neighborhood and within walking distance of Old York Road. (I thought that I may be getting closer to finding out where the girls who use to walk Old York Road, now hang out.).
CookyJar.[/QUOTE]It is not an obsession. It is more like a treasure hunt, a challenge. I know it is there, somewhere and with a little effort, I will find it. Philadelphia is too large a city to have just one stroll. Kensington Avenue is the main stroll. There are smaller strolls in South Philly and West Philly. Is there one in North Philly?

Old York Road, in its day, was second only to Kensington. Over the last few years I've come across a number of providers in the general area of Old York Road. If they are not walking on Old York Road, where are they finding new dates? They cannot be getting all of their regulars from the internet. Most providers, whether they are UTR or on an escort website, venture out on the streets when times are hard. None of the girls that I have meant in the area would admit to being streetwalkers. Even the two that I actually found walking the street, Heaven and Jojo, claimed that they were not area streetwalkers.

All of the signs point to there being another stroll, somewhere in North Philly. I am going to find it, and when I do.!

CookyJar.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4055938]Maybe it's already been reported, but can anyone provide an accurate update on Aundrea?

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]I used to date her when she and Maylea were on Princeton Ave a few years ago. Had them both together once. I think Aundrea is totally beautiful. Maylea too. Don't know how I lost touch with them. Maybe after the Princeton house got busted. Please post or PM me if anyone knows how to reach them. I have trades.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4166267]

All of the signs point to there being another stroll, somewhere in North Philly. I am going to find it, and when I do.!

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]Recently, I had some work in that general area, just North of the Boulevard along Broad street. During the day, for sure there isn't anything much happening, but one night I had to return for a jacket I had left. Unless I'm in a hurry, I pick a route that lets me see what the sights may be. There are plenty of opportunities, they just aren't as obvious as Kensington Ave. First along Hunting Park, and then along Belfield there are women walking in no particular direction, watching to see who's watching them. A little further up Broad, where Windrim crosses there might have been another. None of them interested me enough to actually test the waters, but the market is there.

[QUOTE=Farouk;4167713]… one night I had to return for a jacket I had left. Unless I'm in a hurry, I pick a route that lets me see what the sights may be. There are plenty of opportunities, they just aren't as obvious as Kensington Ave. First along Hunting Park, and then along Belfield there are women walking in no particular direction, watching to see who's watching them. A little further up Broad, where Windrim crosses there might have been another. None of them interested me enough to actually test the waters, but the market is there.[/QUOTE]Careful brother, all is not what it seems to be. The last I checked, after dark, the area was full of female pretenders. During the daylight hours there are a lot of real females, most have seen better days. I was totally shocked to have found Jojo in the area.

I haven't done a hard core search, after dark, on Old York Road in ages. I am genuinely passing though on my way to Kensington Avenue, during the day.

Most girls will not openly admit to being streetwalkers. Even the girls that are out every day will usually state that they just came out or that they aren't usually out on the avenue. Attached are pictures of five girls that I know to be deeply connected with the Old York Road area. Four, when asked, said that they never go down to Kensington Avenue and never work in the streets.

Jojo, the one girl that I found walking near OYR, said she had regulars who came to pick her up. Vicki said that she has family in Kensington, so never came there. Bambi said that she has regulars who provided for her. Hope, who always wanted to be dropped off at a house that I am familiar with near OYR, said she rarely comes to Kensington. And! Josephine also claimed to be supported entirely by regulars.

All five are pretty girls who I doubt venture out on OYR after dark. To my knowledge, none other than Hope has been reported on by anyone other than me (and that Ole' gator). So the question is; where are they and where do they get their dates / regulars?

Suzy once told me that girls often hung out near the Liberty Hotel. The girls that I saw near the Liberty are not the type I am talking about. So far I have been to two houses, neither one are the kind of places that you would expect guys to go to searching for girls. The question still remains, where are these / the doable girls finding dates?

CookyJar.

To answer your question, I have no idea. Tonight after a less than satisfying massage venture, I drove around the spots listed on the street walker forum and saw nothing remotely close to you #2 and #3 pictured girls. There were tons of LEO's out all over the place and nothing worth getting busted for. I mean nothing but super heavy or cracked out thin girls. I spoke to two through the window that looked good from afar and were rotten when they got closer. I come to Philly for a week almost every month and this is the third time I have tried to find a decent SW. I work during the day so I can't get out early to see if there is anything better out there in the daylight. I would pay top dollar to the #2 and #3 girls though if I spotted them. I would love to have a couple of UTRs to hook up with when I am in town but to your point I have no idea where they are.

[QUOTE=CookyJar;4170855]Careful brother, all is not what it seems to be. The last I checked, after dark, the area was full of female pretenders. During the daylight hours there are a lot of real females, most have seen better days. I was totally shocked to have found Jojo in the area.

I haven't done a hard core search, after dark, on Old York Road in ages. I am genuinely passing though on my way to Kensington Avenue, during the day.

Most girls will not openly admit to being streetwalkers. Even the girls that are out every day will usually state that they just came out or that they aren't usually out on the avenue. Attached are pictures of five girls that I know to be deeply connected with the Old York Road area. Four, when asked, said that they never go down to Kensington Avenue and never work in the streets.

Jojo, the one girl that I found walking near OYR, said she had regulars who came to pick her up. Vicki said that she has family in Kensington, so never came there. Bambi said that she has regulars who provided for her. Hope, who always wanted to be dropped off at a house that I am familiar with near OYR, said she rarely comes to Kensington. And! Josephine also claimed to be supported entirely by regulars.

All five are pretty girls who I doubt venture out on OYR after dark. To my knowledge, none other than Hope has been reported on by anyone other than me (and that Ole' gator). So the question is; where are they and where do they get their dates / regulars?

Suzy once told me that girls often hung out near the Liberty Hotel. The girls that I saw near the Liberty are not the type I am talking about. So far I have been to two houses, neither one are the kind of places that you would expect guys to go to searching for girls. The question still remains, where are these / the doable girls finding dates?

CookyJar.[/QUOTE]1. Personally, I wouldn't expect a straight answer from these type of women. These type of women are either habitual liars, or they are just going to (smartly) give you a story to avoid incriminating themselves.

2. Most guys don't have a clue how many contacts a provider can accumulate in short order that is enough to sustain themselves to where they don't have to venture out on the street providing they have a cellphone.

I said in a post a while back I got close to a provider and out of curiosity looked through her phone while she was nodded out and her contact list was basically full and that was after she told me that she erased quite a few clients that she didn't want to deal with anymore.

This girl had at least 200+ numbers (many with photos attached to the number) and was getting called and texted all throughout the day, everyday. She would often turn clients away. She just had this attitude that clients were aways plentiful and disposable.

She didn't need to work any avenue, she just worked her phone. If she needed a place to stay for the night she had a rotation of guys for that. When she needed her meds she had a rotation of guys for that. When she wanted to feel like someone's girlfriend and do bf / gf stuff she called me and I'm sure other guys. And everyone else was strictly a client to support her. I remember once reading a text how she was asking some guy to give her a few hundred dollars to pay her child support. The guy had no clue her own mother gave her money to pay her child support days prior but she blew all the money on dope right in front of me.

That said, I have met a few providers who vehemently refuse to work the street and view street walkers as trash and make fun of them. One provider online I know on a bad day will match SW donations but yet still looks down on street walkers and.