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[QUOTE=Silvio;5246559]L1 and only if she likes you and probably after multiple visits.[/QUOTE]Not the case, as have been noted before L1 with her pants off is available. Was level 1 first visit for me, others have noted she never participates in anything, she is picky I'd say. Runs a hybrid legit hybrid non.
[QUOTE=ItsHowdyDoody;5246944]Not the case, as have been noted before L1 with her pants off is available. Was level 1 first visit for me, others have noted she never participates in anything, she is picky I'd say. Runs a hybrid legit hybrid non.[/QUOTE]She knows what man are looking for. She also aware that some of them do not leave tips and will not show up again, unless they left happy, but she is very cautious, almost paranoid about LEO, more then about man's appearances. If her intuition tells her that a new client is just a monger, she will provide L1 at first visit. She is afraid of younger, fit, speaking perfect English, etc man. Some of her colleagues were busted, that is why she is extremely concerned.
[QUOTE=Walker333;5247922]She knows what man are looking for. She also aware that some of them do not leave tips and will not show up again, unless they left happy, but she is very cautious, almost paranoid about LEO, more then about man's appearances. If her intuition tells her that a new client is just a monger, she will provide L1 at first visit. She is afraid of younger, fit, speaking perfect English, etc man. Some of her colleagues were busted, that is why she is extremely concerned.[/QUOTE]For those that have visited her, how would you rank her massage and physical appearance. I'm only interested in L1 and a great massage with a beautiful lady and hoping this might fight the bill. Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=AngelBravo;5250120]For those that have visited her, how would you rank her massage and physical appearance. I'm only interested in L1 and a great massage with a beautiful lady and hoping this might fight the bill. Thanks in advance.[/QUOTE]5'9" thin build. Nice shape. She visited for outcall a few times and the first session she looked the best in yoga pants and pink tshirt top. I don't recommend because not a great personality. For the amount charged, there are much better options. Very limited even for an experience monger.
In regards to "Personality", maybe I am not using the right choice of word. When I visit a Euro, I would hope to receive a good massage with light touch leading to a standard ending. I also hope that the rubber is a nice person who appreciates my time.
There is a euro in AH who I visit once in a while. She is pretty, not gorgeous. She is older and does a good massage. Her "personality" is well its fake. Hello, how are you, good to see you. Get the massage and then pay. It feels rehearsed to me.
I'm just a number of clients that this person has so take me or leave me. There is no attempt to earn more business.
There is a Euro on NE highway who also is all business. I actually never have a pleasant feeling with her. Its almost like she is doing TheWimp a favor just by allowing me to get a rub. I enjoy her touch and get what I need but in the end, its just a business and she can take me or leave me attitude. Yet, I ignore that an still visit because the session is good for me.
It seems to me the quality of person is not the same as what I remembered. When I pay 75-110 just for a 60 or 90 min appt, I would appreciate some effort to show I'm valued as opposed to "I'm doing you a favor" attitude. At the end of sessions, after I pay the rate for 60 min and tip, I drive home thinking, WTF I should have just relieved my self and keep my money for something of more value to me.
There are a few Euros left who I visit who are not the best looking but definitely make me feel welcomed and feel like I spent money wisely. They provide a much better experience for me then the two I mentioned earlier. Back in the day, I enjoyed visiting a spa on NW side of city who had a stable of 23-35 year old girls who were nice looking and great experience.
Last week I even text a Euro place TheWimp is known at for many years. The response back was "were busy! Yes, great customer service. A better response is "I am sorry TheWimp, everyone is booked today but if you like, would you like an appointment for tomorrow?
This post is just a rant since I am bored. Just letting you know that the Euro hobby for me mostly sucks and not much real appreciative girls out there who appreciate a nice client, respectful and generous tip.
Have a good weekend gents and if you can, visit the one therapist who makes you feel awesome and makes you feel like it was money well spent.
[QUOTE=TheWimp;5250805]In regards to "Personality", maybe I am not using the right choice of word. When I visit a Euro, I would hope to receive a good massage with light touch leading to a standard ending. I also hope that the rubber is a nice person who appreciates my time.
There is a euro in AH who I visit once in a while. She is pretty, not gorgeous. She is older and does a good massage. Her "personality" is well its fake. Hello, how are you, good to see you. Get the massage and then pay. It feels rehearsed to me.[/QUOTE]Brother, I can promise you that you just said what's on 90%+ of our minds. Whether we admit it or not! Every single point you hit upon was Gold. Especially the part about driving home thinking I should've just stayed home. Yeah the Euro market is definitely not the same as it was even 5-7 years ago. Well put. And thanks for showing us we're not alone in this thinking!!
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Last week I even text a Euro place TheWimp is known at for many years. The response back was "were busy! Yes, great customer service. A better response is "I am sorry TheWimp, everyone is booked today but if you like, would you like an appointment for tomorrow?
Just letting you know that the Euro hobby for me mostly sucks and not much real appreciative girls out there who appreciate a nice client, respectful and generous tip.
[/QUOTE]For what it's worth I got similar impressions lately from the euros. Maybe the number of clients are picking up with less restrictions so they don't feel the need to earn any business it will flow until there is another dry season.
I'm betting she was "working" with one hand while texting to you with the other. A learned skill.
But when you talk about back in the day, those days had enough Euro babes working as to have an agent picking up the phone, finding a girl, arranging a location, etc. Go back far enough, that agent was Yuri. Man, am I dating myself or what? Now the girls work solo, even when there is enough business to justify someone picking up the phone for them.
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Last week I even text a Euro place TheWimp is known at for many years. The response back was "were busy! Yes, great customer service. A better response is "I am sorry TheWimp, everyone is booked today but if you like, would you like an appointment for tomorrow?
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[QUOTE=TheWimp;5250554]5'9" thin build. Nice shape. She visited for outcall a few times and the first session she looked the best in yoga pants and pink tshirt top. I don't recommend because not a great personality. For the amount charged, there are much better options. Very limited even for an experience monger.[/QUOTE]Thanks spot on description, I would like to add that she is much older than her body represents. My guess is that she's in her early 40's and while her body would be a solid 8, her face I'd rank it about a 6. It's the one posted on the site but that picture is about 10 years younger in my opinion or with good makeup and photoshopping. In particular her teeth need some work. On a positive note she was quite friendly but I only got a legit massage in the end. I wasn't too disappointed as I wasn't too arosed so I was happy to leave with just a nice massage. I personally think if I pushed it, maybe she could have delivered but as mentioned I was on the fence and just enjoyed my time. I will definitely not go back though, and it was worth the. 75 for a nice Friday relaxing massage and little trip.
Hi, curious if anyone has been to Avita spa in Niles? Thanks.
[QUOTE=BSP5281;5252477]Hi, curious if anyone has been to Avita spa in Niles? Thanks.[/QUOTE]I don't recommend. Its by appt only and closed pretty much for walkins. Person is very cautious and overall experience is not worth it.
[QUOTE=TheWimp;5253418]I don't recommend. Its by appt only and closed pretty much for walkins. Person is very cautious and overall experience is not worth it.[/QUOTE]Vera used to have a stable of good looking eastern Euros who worked out of the back of a little ethnic grocery store in Buffalo Grove. And 12+ years ago it was great. That place got shut down and when I would contact her I'd be send to apartments along Milwaukee Ave, then a rundown office building next to Lux. Every time the number of girls would decrease until finally it was just her. Then she started to make excuses every time I tried to set up an appointment with her, and I gave up. As for Avita, I found that it has the same cell number as when I did contact Vera. I made an appointment last fall. Sure enough it was her. She'd gained some weight in the years that I saw her last. I mentioned to her at the beginning of the session that I used to visit her and her girls at all of the above places. "Yes Sam, I remember you. " But the massage was covered from beginning to end, with me under blankets and not a hint. My reminding her that I was a customer from way back did nothing to change her mind. Skunked. This is a shame, because her massage was actually pretty good.
[QUOTE=SamSpade;5253599]Vera used to have a stable of good looking eastern Euros who worked out of the back of a little ethnic grocery store in Buffalo Grove. And 12+ years ago it was great. That place got shut down and when I would contact her I'd be send to apartments along Milwaukee Ave, then a rundown office building next to Lux. Every time the number of girls would decrease until finally it was just her. Then she started to make excuses every time I tried to set up an appointment with her, and I gave up. As for Avita, I found that it has the same cell number as when I did contact Vera. I made an appointment last fall. Sure enough it was her. She'd gained some weight in the years that I saw her last. I mentioned to her at the beginning of the session that I used to visit her and her girls at all of the above places. "Yes Sam, I remember you. " But the massage was covered from beginning to end, with me under blankets and not a hint. My reminding her that I was a customer from way back did nothing to change her mind. Skunked. This is a shame, because her massage was actually pretty good.[/QUOTE]The one that I saw is not Vera. Of course, she could possibly use a few names. Anymore info is by PM only.
She remembered me too. Used to bring her friend for a double handed pump job. Last time she said," As tempting as it may be. ". I even waved the pole at her. She stared at it for a bit then patted my thigh and told me to "put the snake back in the cage"!
[QUOTE=AngelBravo;5251812]Thanks spot on description, I would like to add that she is much older than her body represents. My guess is that she's in her early 40's and while her body would be a solid 8, her face I'd rank it about a 6. It's the one posted on the site but that picture is about 10 years younger in my opinion or with good makeup and photoshopping. In particular her teeth need some work. On a positive note she was quite friendly but I only got a legit massage in the end. I wasn't too disappointed as I wasn't too arosed so I was happy to leave with just a nice massage. I personally think if I pushed it, maybe she could have delivered but as mentioned I was on the fence and just enjoyed my time. I will definitely not go back though, and it was worth the. 75 for a nice Friday relaxing massage and little trip.[/QUOTE]LOL. What are we expecting in Chicago land Euro land, a model? Diana came, and went, and was super hot in like 2017, for a nice hot minute or so at Marias. Beyond her, nobody is anyone I'd consider overly attractive in the space, or younger than myself. Sara is just fine in Euro holdover land, I doubt with that building and it's history it is very advantageous to get dolled up.
Most of the hot 18 year old imports, are not coming here, and if they did, I doubt they would be looking to get into the profession of HE massaging like they did 10 years ago.
Some of the girls at CTM, CT, Marias, Irenes, etc. Do change from time to time, so love to hear thru pm if anyone has tried anyone newer at any of those. Would be nice if things were super great like in 2002 or whatever, but that isn't happening, so no sense dwelling on it.