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[QUOTE=Honolulu Yobo;1301613]All the Federales that will be here for the conference will be getting $90+ for food and amenities, so they will be amply supplied when they are here. No only that, they will be staying in the best hotels too.[/QUOTE]Cruising through waikiki the other night, you can see a lot more s. W. Activity along kuhio ave. Looks like the mainland girls are already here, establishing their 'spots'.
[QUOTE=Head Lock;1301387]Looks like a bit of hard times ahead for mongers. I heard security zones will extend as far as Sheridan St. Not confirmed, but what I heard from a reliable source.[/QUOTE]Yeah not only that but they're actually putting an off limits on all harbors fronting Waikiki and alamoana, they even posted signs saying we can't surf Bowls, Kaiser's area, unless what I read was incorrect, WTF! Maybe I'm guilty of being a little self centered here but this apec thing should just go elsewhere it's already a headache and they haven't even arrived yet. I can't surf my beach, how the hell are they going to pull that off?
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1301703]Yeah not only that but they're actually putting an off limits on all harbors fronting Waikiki and alamoana, they even posted signs saying we can't surf Bowls, Kaiser's area, unless what I read was incorrect, WTF! Maybe I'm guilty of being a little self centered here but this apec thing should just go elsewhere it's already a headache and they haven't even arrived yet. I can't surf my beach, how the hell are they going to pull that off?[/QUOTE]It'll be interesting to see if it really brings a boon to the local economy. I really don't see how it could do much. Especially the business in and around that area that will be off-limits or very hard to get to.
[QUOTE=Hypo Luxa;1301852]It'll be interesting to see if it really brings a boon to the local economy. I really don't see how it could do much. Especially the business in and around that area that will be off-limits or very hard to get to.[/QUOTE]Does anyone know how much people were expecting to host, or is it the state will benefit from the exposure worldwide and thus no one know for sure how much of a boost our economy will have?
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1301879]Does anyone know how much people were expecting to host, or is it the state will benefit from the exposure worldwide and thus no one know for sure how much of a boost our economy will have?[/QUOTE]What gets me is that they are planting all these palm and coconut trees along Nimits Hwy. These trees have shallow roots so can you imagine the next high wind or hurricane we get. What about when the coconuts start forming. How many lanes will close for the land scaper to cut the nuts and old leaves off? DUH!
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1301879]Does anyone know how much people were expecting to host, or is it the state will benefit from the exposure worldwide and thus no one know for sure how much of a boost our economy will have?[/QUOTE]Somewhere areound 20, 000 attendees.
[QUOTE=Spyda;1301991]Somewhere areound 20, 000 attendees.[/QUOTE]Wo, I guess it really will impact the state. I'll reluctantly give up a week or two of surfing my local break, for the good of all I guess.
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1302073]Wo, I guess it really will impact the state. I'll reluctantly give up a week or two of surfing my local break, for the good of all I guess.[/QUOTE]APEC is also projected to bring in $120 million. GE tax on that is roughly $5 million, but don't forget the 11% transient accommodations tax on the hotel rooms.
[QUOTE=John Ross;1302084]APEC is also projected to bring in $120 million. GE tax on that is roughly $5 million, but don't forget the 11% transient accommodations tax on the hotel rooms.[/QUOTE]Foreign Diplomats don't pay taxes on goods.
[QUOTE=Enona1;1301910]What gets me is that they are planting all these palm and coconut trees along Nimits Hwy. These trees have shallow roots so can you imagine the next high wind or hurricane we get. What about when the coconuts start forming. How many lanes will close for the land scaper to cut the nuts and old leaves off? DUH![/QUOTE]I don't recall seeing any coconut trees. I think those are all royal palms or similar so you don't have to worry about your nuts.
[QUOTE=Head Lock;1302524]I don't recall seeing any coconut trees. I think those are all royal palms or similar so you don't have to worry about your nuts.[/QUOTE]Yeah they are palm trees I drive past them working everyday almost, these tree have no nut, but what I trip out on is the amount we're spending to beautify this highway so the foriegners can look at palm trees on their way to and from the airport. If it wasn't a big enough reason to make the place look nice before for all to enjoy the the hell now? It's not like these foreigners are going to say "OMG, Nimitz looks terrible, let's have our meeting on Guam"!
[QUOTE=Lowlys One;1302611]Yeah they are palm trees I drive past them working everyday almost, these tree have no nut, but what I trip out on is the amount we're spending to beautify this highway so the foriegners can look at palm trees on their way to and from the airport. If it wasn't a big enough reason to make the place look nice before for all to enjoy the the hell now? It's not like these foreigners are going to say "OMG, Nimitz looks terrible, let's have our meeting on Guam"![/QUOTE]There are various types of palm trees in the planting, and there are definitely some coconut trees in the mix, so you guys are wrong on that. I agree with you on everything else. Why spend all this money now to beautify a stretch of Highway so some foreign clowns think it is pretty on their drive from the airport to Waikiki. Like you said, what are they going to do? Leave because a stretch of highway median didn't have plants? The only good thing out of this, is that some local landscapers and tree nurseries are making some money right now in this bad econmoy, when things are really slow for them.
I think Hawaii should host APEC every month but in a different location: Waipahu in December, Nanakuli in January, Waianae in February, etc. That way the city and State will come and beautify those areas, repave the roads and clear out the homeless from each place! Oh wait a minute, nevermind. It's only temprary because as soon as the delegates leave, the projects will be forgotten. What was I thinking?
[QUOTE=Spyda;1301991]Somewhere areound 20, 000 attendees.[/QUOTE]Okay do the math, each person takes a dump once or twice a day and pees at least 6 times or more. So for each person that means flushing the toilet at least 4 times, more so for females since they can't pee standing up in a urinal.
Each flush amounts to around 2. 5 gallons of water, so 20, 000 people will create at least 200, 000 additional gallons of sewage to feed the fishes off the coast of Oahu.
How much "semanship" fluid being emptied from the sacks to fill the AMP places is another interesting calculation?
[QUOTE=Little Dickie;1302643]There are various types of palm trees in the planting, and there are definitely some coconut trees in the mix, so you guys are wrong on that. I agree with you on everything else. Why spend all this money now to beautify a stretch of Highway so some foreign clowns think it is pretty on their drive from the airport to Waikiki. Like you said, what are they going to do? Leave because a stretch of highway median didn't have plants? The only good thing out of this, is that some local landscapers and tree nurseries are making some money right now in this bad econmoy, when things are really slow for them.[/QUOTE]Not saying it is cheap, but consider Singapore spent 79mil and Japan plans to spend 200 mil, Hawaii's 28mil (which they hope to make 50mil from APEC) is a bargain in their eyes. Still, I agree with you guys. Beautification is great but the maintenance and upkeep is where the real money is spent. And Hawaii doesn't have it.
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