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[QUOTE=HeeJunk;6276499]Good luck with that on the MP thread. I think downriver nuru is the last one standing.[/QUOTE]There was a time when 60 house and 100 tip got you everything you wanted but those days are gone my friend. Good for you if you stick to your 160 guns and take it or leave it but I bet you get your fair share of leave it.
200 FS is about the best you can do anywhere AMP wise. Can still get a couple of independents for 160. Just stating facts.
[QUOTE=Illyrian;6277306]I feel like it's too much. I'll just have to pick my my battles and choose between a massage with a handshake or an escort for HH.[/QUOTE]They are 2 different things. The AMP experience is about drive thru convenience. Pull in anytime 10 a-10 p get in get out. With a flaky poor communication SP you spend an hour back and forth with comms, etc. AMP you know what you are getting and if you are going to one that is on your route then it's literally 30 minutes out of your day where arranging and driving to said provider is 2 hours. If the one you want is even open for business.
AMP is like choosing Wendy's or Mcds or BK for lunch. With a little bit of homework here, you know which ones are safe (99% are) and which ones are a heartbeat away from getting raided by LE. SPs are 60-70% not worth the experience for one reason or another.
I do agree that 200 for FS is a lot especially for Grade B / C quality that most AMPs offer. I also think $6-7 is a lot for a QP with cheese but it's just the way of the world these days.
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;6278049]Unfortunately my friend, unless you are trying to slum it, only want a HE or doing a QV with a mid / low tier provider, $. 6 ain't going to get you much in an AMP (especially for FS). $$ is quickly becoming (if not, has always been) the going rate for FS in an AMP out here. Some (like Tiff at Saigon) charge $$+ out the gate for FS and that's even before house fee (and I'd argue that Anna is 1000 times hotter than Tiff is). I even heard rumor that Mikki in Jackson upped her FS rate to be about $$ with house fee included. Good luck to you out there.[/QUOTE]I can concur that 200 is the going rate. Girls try to push you for 20 or 40 above that but are not disgruntled with 200.
Consider this. You are willing to spend 160. You might find a lady desperate enough to accept. She won't be happy though and her performance will reflect. So why not spend 40 more to get much better service. 20 years ago when I was first pounding Mikki an a weekly basis 100 tip (140-160 OTD) was all she needed. 20 years ago. Consider that. 200 in today dollars is a bargain.
[QUOTE=HeeJunk;6279837]Not likely.
FS options guaranteed previously documented:
Healing plus westland.
Sunny 8 mile.
Magic 8 mile.
DT shaffer.
M1 telegraph.
Empire warren. (Be Careful)
Springwell Ecorse.
Sunrise GR.
Saigon ferndale.
7 mile spa 7 mile livonia
(Anna) gratiot mt. Clemens.[/QUOTE]Which of these offer Sauna and / or Table Shower?
Drove by yesterday, lights off, door locked. Not sure if she is done or she licks door if she's with someone. This ship may have sailed.
[QUOTE=Streethunter;6280594]Drove by yesterday, lights off, door locked. Not sure if she is done or she licks door if she's with someone. This ship may have sailed.[/QUOTE]She keeps the door locked. You have to ring the doorbell.
[QUOTE=BzerkleyRich;6280447]Which of these offer Sauna and / or Table Shower?[/QUOTE]Hasn't DT been closed forever?
[QUOTE=Streethunter;6280594]Drove by yesterday, lights off, door locked. Not sure if she is done or she licks door if she's with someone. This ship may have sailed.[/QUOTE]I could totally be misremembering this, but I think I recall Anna unlocking the door as I left the last time I saw her. You could also try calling the mamasan and asking if she available for an appointment. The MS isn't anyways there at the spa but I'm pretty sure she communicates with Anna to alert her when a customer is arriving. Hope that helps. Going to try and stop out and visit her again this week. I'll report back.
[QUOTE=Streethunter;6280594]Drove by yesterday, lights off, door locked. Not sure if she is done or she licks door if she's with someone. This ship may have sailed.[/QUOTE]Pay the house fee of. 8 put your $. 2 tip on the table disrobe, assume the position and if they ask for more, say that's all you have. That's my routine for AMPs that are full service establishments and it has never failed. In fact today, at Mt Clemens I got a 4 hand massage and double dip (both bent over the massage table) as a reward for waiting 15 minutes while she finished the monger before me. The stars aligned perfectly because she's training the other lady (older and stockier). She said she would have the other lady do the massage and she would do the deed herself. After watching the other lady massage me for 15 minutes she decided to join in. Anna took control from waist up and other lady took waist down. Then she began whispering, you f her today and me next time. I refused and said no I'm here for you. Another 15 minutes of 4 hands with both giving great tease then I was prompted to flip. The older lady stayed and watched Anna while the head doctor went to work. I began utc roaming so the student didn't feel left out. They were talking back and forth the whole time. Cowgirl, then mish, then I bent Anna over table while the student watched. In a quick motion I bent the student over the table with my hand on Anna's back and gave her a lesson in student participation. No resistance, just compliance. I switched to Anna and filled the bag. Hot towel, a request for extra tip (I told them I had no more) and lots of giggles from them both. The point is set the expectations of $. 2 tip up front and they will be fine. Obviously this is a great example of YMMV. I'm not sure if I could pull it off again, but it doesn't mean I won't try.
Happy hunting mongers. On a side note, this place won't be around long. Absolutely no safeguards, be careful, it's only a matter of time. For that reason I think it was my first and last visit to see the perky Anna.
Is their a trick to getting in this place bc unless I'm a huge wuss, the door was locked. Whata the secret? Just calling ahead? Did that, but no one ever picks up. Oh well, probably for the best.
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6280678]Pay the house fee of. 8 put your $. 2 tip on the table disrobe, assume the position and if they ask for more, say that's all you have. That's my routine for AMPs that are full service establishments and it has never failed. In fact today, at Mt Clemens I got a 4 hand massage and double dip (both bent over the massage table) as a reward for waiting 15 minutes while she finished the monger before me. The stars aligned perfectly because she's training the other lady (older and stockier). She said she would have the other lady do the massage and she would do the deed herself. After watching the other lady massage me for 15 minutes she decided to join in. Anna took control from waist up and other lady took waist down. Then she began whispering, you f her today and me next time. I refused and said no I'm here for you. Another 15 minutes of 4 hands with both giving great tease then I was prompted to flip. The older lady stayed and watched Anna while the head doctor went to work. I began utc roaming so the student didn't feel left out. They were talking back and forth the whole time. Cowgirl, then mish, then I bent Anna over table while the student watched. In a quick motion I bent the student over the table with my hand on Anna's back and gave her a lesson in student participation. No resistance, just compliance. I switched to Anna and filled the bag. Hot towel, a request for extra tip (I told them I had no more) and lots of giggles from them both. The point is set the expectations of $. 2 tip up front and they will be fine. Obviously this is a great example of YMMV. I'm not sure if I could pull it off again, but it doesn't mean I won't try.
Happy hunting mongers. On a side note, this place won't be around long. Absolutely no safeguards, be careful, it's only a matter of time. For that reason I think it was my first and last visit to see the perky Anna.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SandersNut;6280678]Pay the house fee of. 8 put your $. 2 tip on the table disrobe, assume the position and if they ask for more, say that's all you have. That's my routine for AMPs that are full service establishments and it has never failed. In fact today, at Mt Clemens I got a 4 hand massage and double dip (both bent over the massage table) as a reward for waiting 15 minutes while she finished the monger before me. The stars aligned perfectly because she's training the other lady (older and stockier). She said she would have the other lady do the massage and she would do the deed herself. After watching the other lady massage me for 15 minutes she decided to join in. Anna took control from waist up and other lady took waist down. Then she began whispering, you f her today and me next time. I refused and said no I'm here for you. Another 15 minutes of 4 hands with both giving great tease then I was prompted to flip. The older lady stayed and watched Anna while the head doctor went to work. I began utc roaming so the student didn't feel left out. They were talking back and forth the whole time. Cowgirl, then mish, then I bent Anna over table while the student watched. In a quick motion I bent the student over the table with my hand on Anna's back and gave her a lesson in student participation. No resistance, just compliance. I switched to Anna and filled the bag. Hot towel, a request for extra tip (I told them I had no more) and lots of giggles from them both. The point is set the expectations of $. 2 tip up front and they will be fine. Obviously this is a great example of YMMV. I'm not sure if I could pull it off again, but it doesn't mean I won't try.
Happy hunting mongers. On a side note, this place won't be around long. Absolutely no safeguards, be careful, it's only a matter of time. For that reason I think it was my first and last visit to see the perky Anna.[/QUOTE]LEO is crawling up and down Gratiot at all hours of the day. I've made a few visits here and each time, the parade of mongers lining up is getting longer than I'm comfortable with and I can't see how it doesn't draw attention from all the businesses around. Great service, but proceed with caution.
[QUOTE=Streethunter;6280752]Is their a trick to getting in this place bc unless I'm a huge wuss, the door was locked. Whata the secret? Just calling ahead? Did that, but no one ever picks up. Oh well, probably for the best.[/QUOTE]I called ahead, the idea of "she tells them you're coming" is probably right, she was waiting in the room near the door when I arrived, but another did knock / try the door when I was there, presumably people who didn't call ahead.
I almost always call ahead because I don't feel like taking the gamble of who I get (at other places) or driving the distance to be turned away.
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Happy hunting mongers. On a side note, this place won't be around long. Absolutely no safeguards, be careful, it's only a matter of time. For that reason I think it was my first and last visit to see the perky Anna.[/QUOTE]What do you mean by "no safeguards" Sanders? What other places have "safeguards"? With the exception of the untouchable Tiff at Saigon (which I'm still amazed to this day hasn't gotten busted given how close it is to an actual fuzz box), it always feels like all of these FS spas are always one step away from getting busted (or maybe that's my own personal paranoia).
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;6280941]What do you mean by "no safeguards" Sanders? What other places have "safeguards"? With the exception of the untouchable Tiff at Saigon (which I'm still amazed to this day hasn't gotten busted given how close it is to an actual fuzz box), it always feels like all of these FS spas are always one step away from getting busted (or maybe that's my own personal paranoia).[/QUOTE]All that's separating you from being caught mid-act by LEO is a glass door that's supposed to be locked (but isn't always). These other AMPs like Saigon, Magic or M1 at least have a solid locked door where you have to ring the doorbell and they screen you first usually through a glass window before letting you in. You have more balls than me if that doesn't at least concern you.
[QUOTE=LostInDetroit;6280941]What do you mean by "no safeguards" Sanders? What other places have "safeguards"? With the exception of the untouchable Tiff at Saigon (which I'm still amazed to this day hasn't gotten busted given how close it is to an actual fuzz box), it always feels like all of these FS spas are always one step away from getting busted (or maybe that's my own personal paranoia).[/QUOTE]When I walked in no greeter (not unusual) I walked to the hallway and down past the first room to my right (after yelling out, "hello, good morning " I could see the bare feet of Anna and monger on a massage table at the end of the hallway. She was giggling (I couldn't see what they were doing, and I didn't know it was a monger) so I yelled out again; then, from the room to my right mms comes out and walked me to my room, Anna hen poked her head out with giggles but didn't close door. In he room on the floor there was a fresh wrapper unopened. I had never been there before but when Anna walked in she asked me to wait 15 minutes, she set her phone and a fresh unopened wrapper on the table, went back to the other hobbyist for 15 minutes. LOL, that's some wild wild west kind of idgaf behavior. In that business, if you're casual about it, you will become a casualty of it. Just my observation.