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[QUOTE=AkaLegend;5973044]The quality has always been about the same to me and I go back 14+ years. It's always been around 20% working girls were HYA.
But the quantity have definitely increased, I think by at least 3 fold.[/QUOTE]14 years ago there we're half the amount of guys seeingKkgirls to the present like now.
I miss those days when the Old KFC on Westside was a hidden gem for Kgirls. LOL.
Best indie bookers like Sasha and J.
[QUOTE=Undftd88;5972642]Don't hold your breath for any HYA or even semi cute. BB ruined the hobby entirely and all the girls you see now are from and. Korea or 35+ ugly ahjummas from the south. If they say otherwise, they lying. Even baby sky who everyone was praising is a 6/10 at best. Don't trust the reviews, only hot ones are the oldies (Stella, Cami, Lyn). That's what it has come down to. Personally for myself, I've already got steak at home, so why eat outside unless it's A5 Wagyu?[/QUOTE]As you already know, even a5 wagyu gets old if you keep eating it every day. I do agree if you're comparing Baby Sky or my personal ATF Jamie to regular civvies or top providers in S. Korea, they're obviously not that pretty. As someone who has seen the talent in Korea, it really depends on where you go and for what price. If you're thinking the amount you're spending here is going to get you prettier girls in korea, you are sadly mistaken. You would need to spend a minimum of at least double the amount than we do here and yes it would most likely be no BB. My understanding was we were all comparing the providers relative with the provider's available and making that assessment.
We are just making lemonade here with the talent available until the next pretty K-girl goes through a traumatic event that leads them to this life of debauchery in another country.
I decided to see Baby Sky despite some people telling me otherwise. I did come in with lower expectations since I was told otherwise. I heard her service hasn't been as great lately and she's just going through the motion. Maybe burnt out. But some of the other girls that I was going to try were booked, but Baby Sky was available, so I went with her.
I got to the apartment and was let inside after standing by the door for a bit. She was wearing some black dress that looked eh, but she did look young and looked decent like 7. 5/10 from initial impressions. She greeted me when she opened the door and said that I looked very handsome. I thanked her, but just think of the compliments as her just doing her job to make me feel good. She held my hand to the room, then she helped me take off my clothes, folded them nicely, then asked me to shower. I replied yes and then she led me to the bathroom. I brushed my teeth using the brush she handed, we both blue toast, and then she got in the shower first. We were chatting along the way, since her English was good.
Anyways, in the shower, she LFK and DFK. I did fondle her tits and ass a bit. Her tits were man-made and a bit firm, so not too soft, unfortunately. Her tits are listed as Cs, but I think they're more Bs. She is clean shaved with a tat on side of her leg. I do prefer minimal tats, but her tat didn't really bother me at all. She was also decently tall around 5'6. After some more LFK in the shower, she started to BBBJ me in the shower. She actually did it for quite a while, so I was like damn. I don't mind if it's just a short BBBJ, since I rather not be in the shower super long and rather move along. But I appreciate the service. I got out and she helped wipe me dry with the towel.
Then we got to the bed, she made me sit by the edge of the bed, we made out some more and she's a decent kisser. Mixes up tongue and lip action, unlike the last two pros I've been that have been 99% tongue and 0 lip stuff, which I don't really like as much. I think a good kiss got to have a mixture of both. She started to suck on my nipples, then worked her way down, and started to BBBJ and she's okay at it. She does some DT and gluck gluck action where she jerks me off and sucks. But her BBBJ is just okay, not bad, but nothing special. Afterward, she asks me to lay down and then got on top of me. She shoved her tits in my face, so I sucked her both of her tits, then did some more DFK. Eventually, she put a condom on me, no extra lube, and then started riding me.
When she started riding me, it was really GFE than a PSE. Since some pros really know how to ride, but Baby Sky was more romantic I'd say. She kept making out with me, kissing my neck, and we DFK a lot as she rode me with me grabbing her ass. She also kept saying that I was handsome and that she liked me. As we fked, she'd moan "I like you" repeatedly and it really adds to the GFE experience. We switched to me on top mish and it was a pretty good view with her clean shaved puss, flat tummy, and nice looking tits (despite them being firm and not as big as I'd like). She took off her hair tie and she looks much better with her hair down. As I pounded her, she does that thing where I can feel her not really trying to spread her legs to me pound her deeper. Like I mentioned before, I don't got the biggest one, so I never understood when k-girls do thisMaybe they just don't want guys to pound them too rough and deep after a long day idk. But the GFE experience was still there, lots of sensual kissing, she kept telling me that she liked me as I banged her. Eventually, I got close to busting and started to pump faster + harder and she was fine with it. So, I got still properly get some depth and speed towards finishing. After I busted and was still in her just chilling for a sec, she initiates more kissing which really adds to the GFE experience. She cleaned me up, but not with her mouth, unfortunately. She put a warm small towel over my dick and then started to give a massage. Her massage was really whatever, so I told her to just relax and lie down next to me. She did and we cuddled, she showed me her travel photos to the Grand Canyon, and she said she likes LA more than Korea and that Korea was boring. After more small talk + cuddling, she took me to shower, wiped me dry, and then helped me put on my clothes. At the door, we hugged, kissed, and wished each other a good night.
Overall, I had a positive experience with Baby Sky. I think if she put on makeup, she would have looked even prettier. But she did use mascara to make her lashes look longer, she apparently got her eyebrows microbladed so they were done, she got her nose done according to her, and her hair is nice imo. Without makeup, she's still a 7-7. 5/10 in my opinion. Like another review says she reminds me of a girl that looks like a classroom crush from a college class. The experience wasn't very PSE, since she wasn't particularly good at riding / BJs / or anything special. But it was a fun GFE experience with a pretty bubbly and outgoing girl that's fun to chat with. I'd consider repeating her in the future.
[QUOTE=Undftd88;5972642]Don't hold your breath for any HYA or even semi cute. BB ruined the hobby entirely and all the girls you see now are from and. Korea or 35+ ugly ahjummas from the south. If they say otherwise, they lying. Even baby sky who everyone was praising is a 6/10 at best. Don't trust the reviews, only hot ones are the oldies (Stella, Cami, Lyn). That's what it has come down to. Personally for myself, I've already got steak at home, so why eat outside unless it's A5 Wagyu?[/QUOTE]Not all steakhouse taste the same just because they sell the same meat.
Sometimes we enjoy All you can eat, sometimes omakase.
Try eating A5 Wagyu every single day, you get bored of it.
I imagine you thought of steak at home as A5 Wagyu at first but you got bored of it now so looking for meat outside of home.
I think you should appreciate what you get or keep eating the same steak at home.
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We are just making lemonade here with the talent available until the next pretty K-girl goes through a traumatic event that leads them to this life of debauchery in another country.[/QUOTE]From chatting w some of the recent Kgirls over the past few month, I got the feeling that they are also feeling the pinch of their local economy abroad as we are as well as "cabin fever". Least for now, dollar is strong; travel striction eased, more variety is here. Isn't there some rumors some hot girls are getting the boot at customs of which the suspicion goes way back. How the hell are they suppose to disguise like the janitor ladies in H-mart?! No offence, gomawoyo for getting me fresh Kimchi reshelved.
I'm actually getting tired of the BBQ joint at the Grove post my West side session. I'm craving some Inn'Outs for the next venture, may be animal style this time. On a side note, I'd spotted some high school / college Korean girls on vacations at the Grove; I'm good w some of the current talent.
[QUOTE=Owliee;5973310]As you already know, even a5 wagyu gets old if you keep eating it every day. I do agree if you're comparing Baby Sky or my personal ATF Jamie to regular civvies or top providers in S. Korea, they're obviously not that pretty. As someone who has seen the talent in Korea, it really depends on where you go and for what price. If you're thinking the amount you're spending here is going to get you prettier girls in korea, you are sadly mistaken. You would need to spend a minimum of at least double the amount than we do here and yes it would most likely be no BB. My understanding was we were all comparing the providers relative with the provider's available and making that assessment.
We are just making lemonade here with the talent available until the next pretty K-girl goes through a traumatic event that leads them to this life of debauchery in another country.[/QUOTE]Too many men in west think asians are always and must always be cheap.
Even south korea, I bet poor k people have better welfare system especially medical service, and huge city in China (nice condo rental must be much higer than most californians place) and japan must offer cheap but grade A labor.
Sorry. They must go to Philippines or thai (even there, top AAA girls are not for foreign dicks, they are for local super riches) and get any girl and believe I bought 19 yo beauty queen with only 50 bucks while locals giggle foreigners choose any pussy, damn she must be 45 yo with plain face).
[QUOTE=AkaLegend;5973044]The quality has always been about the same to me and I go back 14+ years. It's always been around 20% working girls were HYA.
But the quantity have definitely increased, I think by at least 3 fold.[/QUOTE]Naw, C_V_ era was the best, both in quantity and HYA. Basically 100 Kgirls working per day, and probably 20 of them are room salon level dolls. All for 260/ hr.
[QUOTE=BobLove;5973622]Naw, C_V_ era was the best, both in quantity and HYA. Basically 100 Kgirls working per day, and probably 20 of them are room salon level dolls. All for 260/ hr.[/QUOTE]Oh absolutely 100% that was truly the golden era but it was also a very different time the economy was better. Ig did not exist or want to internet models, no smart phones or Facebook kgirls were hotter bigger tits bigger ass small waist and taller height with super hot face. Infamous site Citi-bibe ads no one talked about so bb service was earned by being a good customer and earning their loyalty. Bookers made sure most Kgirls were as hot as it can be to western standards also Kgirls back then we're very humble and only stuck to one booker but maybe maybe if we all unite as monger a mongers union we can make a difference and bring back those good old days and have our bb+CIM+greek at 260 back one day.
[QUOTE=BobLove;5973622]Naw, C_V_ era was the best, both in quantity and HYA. Basically 100 Kgirls working per day, and probably 20 of them are room salon level dolls. All for 260/ hr.[/QUOTE]I concur. Before I broke into the Kgirl scene, I was just seeing C girls (and even they were younger and hotter back then) and backpage indies. I never wanted to drop 260 for a session, but once I did, holy shit! My mind was absolutely blown by what I had been missing. I saw 2-3 girls a week for about the next six months after that. I really have a hard time seeing new girls now because I am usually disappointed and end up booking with an AFT shortly to satisfy the itch. That means I end up spending double. I only try to monger about once a month these days, and a great session will satisfy me enough to stay on track with that. The last new girl I tried was Sunlight. She wasn't bad, and she is beautiful, but there was no chemistry and she was not my type. That was two weeks ago and I have been struggling to hold back scheduling with Lyn to make up for it. If I do try someone new (new from my perspective), it is going to be Harper. I am torn between going to a tried and true ATF, and trying Harper though.
What would you bothers do? Lyn, or Harper? Do you think I will be satisfied with Harper? My preference is passionate, genuine GFE, and my ATFs are BBBJ Min, Lyn, Jazmin, and Stella T (from Eros). If the girl speaks decent English, it is a big plus for me.
Ah! I miss the good old days.
Get your passport and gtfo traveling is the best option for US mongers atm. Look at how strong USD / JPY and USD / KRW is. I heard gas just hit $7+ back in LA along with $$ BB rates -- you can literally get a b-list JAV actress like Kokone Mizutani Ruka Kanae for 2 hr LA rate now.
Don't get fooled by oldjes that haven't been back in Asia in 10 years -- BBFSCIP in Korea and Japan are upper level norms since early 2000's. You can actually find both kdolls and jgirls under 20 working in Osaka and Tokyo for under $400 since dollar is so strong.
Most Japanese and Korean shops are up for foreigners now and they are hungry for those dollar bills.
[QUOTE=BobLove;5973622]Naw, C_V_ era was the best, both in quantity and HYA. Basically 100 Kgirls working per day, and probably 20 of them are room salon level dolls. All for 260/ hr.[/QUOTE]When I got into this 15 years ago I would save my change and for 2.
I would go to the places in k town once a month. And get BBFS cip and the chicks where hot.
But now talent has diminished.
[QUOTE=BobLove;5973622]Naw, C_V_ era was the best, both in quantity and HYA. Basically 100 Kgirls working per day, and probably 20 of them are room salon level dolls. All for 260/ hr.[/QUOTE]I don't ever recall 100, maybe 30 tops. Not sure why you are exaggerating it.
And back in the days, the hya were mostly only found in the parlors not aamp.
If the upcharge is not a concern for you, I'd say the current scene of the abundant hya offerings at 400 has never been better. The quality have always stayed about the same like I said, usually only 20% are HYAs. That had not changed.
Saw a recent review of Maisie on TER that said she allows greek with CIA. Can someone confirm?
[QUOTE=BobLove;5973622]Naw, C_V_ era was the best, both in quantity and HYA. Basically 100 Kgirls working per day, and probably 20 of them are room salon level dolls. All for 260/ hr.[/QUOTE]Pre visa waiver for South Kroea (before 2009) - Days of Parkasian, Nicole Dream (she had an ad with video), Seeya aka Kimchee, etc. Mostly mid 20's and up with average probably around 30. More HYA than now but probably by not a lot.
Post visa waiver to mid 2010's. CV platform dominated with young ones coming to take advantage of 1500 KRW / USD exchange rates. The flood opened and the scene completed changed with early 20's HYA. Just to give an example a young 20's Venus / Elle level or better girls always present around a half dozen to a dozen of them.
Mid 2010's to end of CV. Less HYA coming in with better Korean economy, less favoriable exchange rates, reputation of US scene not so great for girls, etc. Still about 2-3 HYA around most of times.
Post CV to now. North Koreans who defected to SK with SK passport came with BBFS to take over the market. Maybe 1-2 HYA annually coming in now if that.
[QUOTE=Shinjiku;5973919]Get your passport and gtfo traveling is the best option for US mongers atm. Look at how strong USD / JPY and USD / KRW is. I heard gas just hit $7+ back in LA along with $$ BB rates -- you can literally get a b-list JAV actress like Kokone Mizutani Ruka Kanae for 2 hr LA rate now.
Don't get fooled by oldjes that haven't been back in Asia in 10 years -- BBFSCIP in Korea and Japan are upper level norms since early 2000's. You can actually find both kdolls and jgirls under 20 working in Osaka and Tokyo for under $400 since dollar is so strong.
Most Japanese and Korean shops are up for foreigners now and they are hungry for those dollar bills.[/QUOTE]Great but Japan still has nonsense covid restrictions.
[blue]I connected in NRT two months ago, only Japanese nationals or residents are allowed to enter Japan. Only 28 people on the 777 I was on were entering Japan.
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