The Woodshed

[QUOTE=Admin2;4200471][BLUE]But why did you put it on a review thread when it clearly is Woodshed material?

Making me do extra work like moving posts isn't how you get on my Christmas/Hanukkah/Kwanzaa/Yule card list.

A2[/BLUE][/QUOTE]Are we talking about legal providers in Florida? Those do not exist.

An illegal contract is an agreement that violates the law because its fulfillment requires the parties to engage in illegal activity. Such a contract is void and unenforceable from the beginning. Thus, if the contract is breached, neither party will be entitled to any compensation or held liable. IANYA.

[QUOTE=SammyG;4199187]I remember studying law and one of the things that an individual is taught in contract law is the concept of an unconscionable contract. The term " unconscionable contract" means that it is not a fair deal and one party in the agreement has all the advantages which normally comes at great expense to the other party. In other words, the agreement is very unreasonable and very exploitative. I believe that the mongers for quite some time haven't been given a fair deal ie: cash grab and dash, poor hygiene, deceptive pictures, not given the time promised, not performing as promised, crappy in call location, even victims of theft at the hands of the providers and much more. While, providers carry all the advantages and very little risk. If they get into trouble they can claim victim status and be given access to social programs (Yes there are girls that are kidnapped and trafficked but the girls that aren't are easily lumped into that category). Again, I really don't believe providers understand nor do they care to understand a monger's point of view. I don't think the solution would be issuing surety bonds that are backed by a surety insurer like State Farm (imagine those commercials LOL). Just as anyother business, mongers can vote with their feet and their coinage meaning go to better competition or exercise the power of the boycott. Heck lots of legal providers out there.[/QUOTE]Tho this post was well put there was something nagging at me that I'll try my best to explain.

I believe we're getting our hope's too high with these providers when expecting primo service. Let's start by reminding ourselves that every single one us paying Players and paid Providers is participating in an illegal activity. Trying to apply Law and Logic to this Game is nothing more than frugal. We can't report them to the Better Business Bureau if service is bad. We ARE our own Better Business Bureau.

In general, the Providers have no business plan or model in which to grow their "pussy selling" business. Using words & phrases like "fair deal" and "agreement" can only be taken lightly. Their law is of the streets and their logic only go so far as to:

-make money, fairly or unfairly.

-suck dick, fuck.

-buy drugs, get high.

-hang out with riff raffs.

-avoid and evade LEO.

-repeat.

The only thing each of us Mongers can do is (that old phrase) "expect the worst, hope for the best"; review as warranted. So when it comes to so-called contracts with Providers, whether it be said or implied, just take all the measures to protect yourselves. Most of it has already been said time and time again.

[QUOTE=SammyG;4199187]I remember studying law and one of the things that an individual is taught in contract law is the concept of an unconscionable contract. The term " unconscionable contract" means that it is not a fair deal and one party in the agreement has all the advantages which normally comes at great expense to the other party. In other words, the agreement is very unreasonable and very exploitative. I believe that the mongers for quite some time haven't been given a fair deal ie: cash grab and dash, poor hygiene, deceptive pictures, not given the time promised, not performing as promised, crappy in call location, even victims of theft at the hands of the providers and much more. While, providers carry all the advantages and very little risk. If they get into trouble they can claim victim status and be given access to social programs (Yes there are girls that are kidnapped and trafficked but the girls that aren't are easily lumped into that category). Again, I really don't believe providers understand nor do they care to understand a monger's point of view. I don't think the solution would be issuing surety bonds that are backed by a surety insurer like State Farm (imagine those commercials LOL). Just as anyother business, mongers can vote with their feet and their coinage meaning go to better competition or exercise the power of the boycott. Heck lots of legal providers out there.[/QUOTE]Many of these chicks aren't running a business. They're stumbling around in a candy haze doing what they have to do to keep that haze going. Some do treat this as a business, but so what? Every business has its shady business people. Like someone else said, you can't report them to the BBB. This board is our BBB.

This forum is great and sometimes I do stumble on someone I see multiple times because of great intel I receive from some seniors even when they decide to drop from the "hobby". It depends on their location and donation request however the turnover of the good ones seems almost daily. The ones that are still posting months or years from now is either trash or well. Trash.

JZ.

[QUOTE=Satisfaxxxion;4200555]Many of these chicks aren't running a business. They're stumbling around in a candy haze doing what they have to do to keep that haze going. Some do treat this as a business, but so what? Every business has its shady business people. Like someone else said, you can't report them to the BBB. This board is our BBB.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=JZetoro19;4208701]This forum is great and sometimes I do stumble on someone I see multiple times because of great intel I receive from some seniors even when they decide to drop from the "hobby". It depends on their location and donation request however the turnover of the good ones seems almost daily. The ones that are still posting months or years from now is either trash or well. Trash.

JZ.[/QUOTE]Turnover being key. Seems that any halfway decent BP girl / STG poster gets white knighted in a few months. Yet they still post for dates.

Can anyone pass me Cleo's contact.

I was seeing her before she took off for Pensacola and it looks like she changed numbers again.

Thanks.

How reliable is the site called 5 escorts?

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We don't judge brother, if cock is your thing good luck to you but you can't post about wanting to get your shit pushed in even though it's a fight thread.

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[QUOTE=Pseudonymous;4210067]Turnover being key. Seems that any halfway decent BP girl / STG poster gets white knighted in a few months. Yet they still post for dates.[/QUOTE]It's been happening more often than in years past. I guess these dudes think "HO" + "ME" = "HOME". They all have boyfriends that have the same candy habit. My opinion is if she's posting then she's single as can be.

Curious as I am pretty much done with this hobby after my last terrible experience, how worried do you guys get about things like HIV? I never BBFS or even Greek in any capacity but I like BBBJs, anyone know the prevalence of shit like that? IV drug users are an at risk population and I know a lot of these providers mess around with substances. Then there's the statistic I think that's 22% of HIV cases in FL are from jax (may have misquoted that but pretty sure I saw a news segment stating that recently). Not trying to spook everyone it's just a thought I've been having, interested to hear what this community thinks about this within the hobby.

[QUOTE=Magicmike226;4314163]Curious as I am pretty much done with this hobby after my last terrible experience, how worried do you guys get about things like HIV? I never BBFS or even Greek in any capacity but I like BBBJs, anyone know the prevalence of shit like that? IV drug users are an at risk population and I know a lot of these providers mess around with substances. Then there's the statistic I think that's 22% of HIV cases in FL are from jax (may have misquoted that but pretty sure I saw a news segment stating that recently). Not trying to spook everyone it's just a thought I've been having, interested to hear what this community thinks about this within the hobby.[/QUOTE]Not worried about hiv and bjs but do very much worry about routine stis.

[QUOTE=MyDarkSide;4314595]Not worried about hiv and bjs but do very much worry about routine stis.[/QUOTE]Especially for those who like to dine at the why on these hookers-no judgement, of course. Studies show some throat / oral cancers are HPV related.

[QUOTE=Quebec99;4314808]Especially for those who like to dine at the why on these hookers-no judgement, of course. Studies show some throat / oral cancers are HPV related.[/QUOTE]I've never ever understood that, no DATY for me either. I just wonder where that large percentage of new HIV cases came from ya know, like which population is racking up the numbers like that. It'd seem like this hobby would be suspect.

[QUOTE=Quebec99;4314808]Especially for those who like to dine at the why on these hookers-no judgement, of course. Studies show some throat / oral cancers are HPV related.[/QUOTE]HPV is a done deal. Virtually all sexually active men had/have it. Most all of us will successfully fight off with immune system.

[QUOTE=Magicmike226;4314163]Curious as I am pretty much done with this hobby after my last terrible experience, how worried do you guys get about things like HIV? I never BBFS or even Greek in any capacity but I like BBBJs, anyone know the prevalence of shit like that? IV drug users are an at risk population and I know a lot of these providers mess around with substances. Then there's the statistic I think that's 22% of HIV cases in FL are from jax (may have misquoted that but pretty sure I saw a news segment stating that recently). Not trying to spook everyone it's just a thought I've been having, interested to hear what this community thinks about this within the hobby.[/QUOTE]HIV is most prevalant in the Miami area (for Florida), but there's certainly plenty around here. I'm old enough to remember when HIV was a death sentence. I was talking with an ER nurse recently, and she said she'd rather contract HIV than Hep, which is obviously different than it used to be.

With the pill mills being shut down and H / fentanyl becoming a cheaper and therefore more popular alternative to oxy (etc), shooters are increasingly a problem. Apparently, the high from Fentanyl is much shorter lasting, too, so the people who routinely shoot that end up shooting a LOT more, which increases needle sharing.

I manage my exposure risk by avoiding obvious shooters, or people who have symptoms that are common to them, by not picking up SWans with obvious massive signs of other candy use, and by making sure to get tested regularly.

Do I worry about it anyways? Sure.