Casino girls

[QUOTE=BassLake; 1245384]The SEMA is very good. However, casino girls in the non-strip area are a risk for several reasons. The biggest is that some are vice, so if they look too nice, they have a big surprise for you. Second, a lot of the casino girls do upsell like Hell. Even then, most are "cash and dash". When you do get sex with some of them, they look like they are trying to remember the names of the seven dwarfs, when you are pumping. Third, a lot of the cgs will wait for you to go to the bathroom and then they disappear with wallets, laptops, credit cards, etc.

So a better alternative to casino girls (most of whom are streetwalkers wandering into a casino) , try looking at reviews on lvfever, myredbook, tnaboard, or theeroticreview. The eroticreview is $28 per month, but has the best screening for the girls. You can see girls who are any age range, hair color, height, boob size, race, or service type you want. The well reviewed girls can range from as little as $200 to $400 / hr. For example, right now Gia Sweetee, Katvegas, Tammy Taylor, Susanne, are all escorts I've met and [email]are@200[/email], they are GFE, and they do not rush. There are many more from 250 to 400. They will meet you at the time you want, so you don't have to risk anything. Ponder this.[/QUOTE]Some are streetwalkers, some are high end escorts that got stood up, some are "weekend warriors," ie part-timers from Vegas or elsewhere, usually dancers in real life.

It's kind of unlikely that you are going to get stung mongering in a casino where you have a room. Step foot outside and it's a different matter.

There is a learning curve. WC Fields said,"You can't cheat an honest man." And,"never give a sucker an even break." That's all you need to know.

I'm not saying you're wrong. The CG game is. Well, a game. It is true you never get GFE with CG. You're "shooting" for a PSE in that setting.

Gator, great advice.

As my past posts will attest, I am a low-rent monger to the max. However, I picked up my first CG last summer at Golden Nugget and the quality is much higher (I know, no huge surprise) and worth the money. One question, other than mandating that the cash stay on the dresser, in the bathroom. How do you insure that the CG, or escort, will not cash-and-dash you?

FYI. I do intend to do some low-rent mongering near Wild Wild West / Orleans and Boulder Hwy.

[QUOTE=Marcusillinois; 1249572]Gator, great advice.

As my past posts will attest, I am a low-rent monger to the max. However, I picked up my first CG last summer at Golden Nugget and the quality is much higher (I know, no huge surprise) and worth the money. One question, other than mandating that the cash stay on the dresser, in the bathroom. How do you insure that the CG, or escort, will not cash-and-dash you?

FYI. I do intend to do some low-rent mongering near Wild Wild West / Orleans and Boulder Hwy.[/QUOTE]Well I don't think you can guarantee the girl won't cash and dash. They usually don't. The usual rip off is the upsell. Second most common is pilfering eg going thru your pockets while you are in the throes of bliss. I advise not being drunk and to secure everything except the girls money. That will limit your losses. As far as upselling is concerned, I think it helps to be clear about what you want using lingo you pick up on this forum. There is a controversy about whether this can be negotiated in the casino or whether you should go to the room first. I think the girl has leverage once she gets to the room so I always negotiate downstairs. Others disagree vehemently.

So far I've been happy with the pre-negotiated tip. If done respectfully it's a good motivator I think

This whole post is literary, comedic, and mongering gold. Best post I have ever read on this board.

[QUOTE=GatorsDen; 1248873]It's not like it used to be, may never be. Might be worth visiting during a major fight. But overall the numbers are down and they aren't nearly as aggressive as they used to be. I have never seen "countless 10's." Lots of aggressive skanks, a few haughty blondes, and the rare sleek gorgeous angel. I think I'm OK with a few number of aggressive skanks.

OK, one more time. How to fine a hoe in Vegas.

1. Stay at Hard Rock, Excalibur, Caears', Bellagio, Rio, Palms, or Hilton.

2. Stay sober until 11 pm.

3. Take a shower and dress in khaki's, golf shirt, and decent shoes.

4. Go to casino bar and start playing video poker.

5. Stare at women who appear attractive.

6. If any of them allow you to make eye contact, even for a moment, strike up a conversation. Wave. Walk over and sit down.

7. Chat for a while. Tell her where you're from. Tell her how old you are. Show her your driver's license to prove how old you are.

8. When she says,"so what are you up to tonight?" Say,"I was going down to the church to say some Hail Mary's." No! I'm kidding! Well actually that probably would work. I've found that if you can make them laugh, you are in for a good time. Here's a good hoe joke."I was going to ask you for a 'girlfriend experience' but then I realized all I would get is a dry hand job and then I'd have to hear how I never clean the apartment and how much you hate my friends." They love that joke.

9. Once she gets you to admit you're looking for trouble, she will demurely mention that there could be some money involved. You earnestly assure her that you that it would be an honor to bestow a small symbol of your appreciation for the pleasure of her company, inadequate though it might be for a woman of her pulchritude and worldly knowledge. What follows is the 'ask." It is appropriate to laugh at the "ask." Yes, young Siddhartha, you may remind her of what you have to offer. Then she will laugh. Next comes the "bid." Here's the exact script."This is what I'm willing to do. I'll give you $x for half and half. And I'll give you $.25x as a tip if you have a good attitude and there's no up-selling." If she takes it, go to town. If she doesn't, say "I understand, and I meant no offense, for it is honestly what I am willing to do." She may well say OK at that point, and if she doesn't you are now both officially wasting your time. Let x = $$ and you will get laid pretty much any day of the week. You may be able to get a skank for less than that, depending on the spread; however you will get skunked from time to time.

Frankly I don't see anything wrong with this system. I remember when there would be four or five skanks bothering you at the same time at the lamp bar. The first time it's kind of comical and then after that it's kind of irritating. I also remember the time I saw a beautiful well kept blonde at the bar at the Wynn. I was getting ready to hit on her when her dude came up and sat next to her. It was kind of a bummer because she was really something. Had the nicest ankles I ever saw. It wasn't until later, when I was wandering through the slots, when I caught this wiff of perfume, and turned around to see her standing all up in my personal space, and her saying how come I never said anything to her at the bar. Well my dear it's because I doubted for a moment that you were hooking. But then she presses that firm warm body of hers against me, and I see the faintest glimmer of sweat in her cleavage, and. Well you know what they say. Next thing you know, the great bird has flown like an owl into the twilight, only it is daylight in the woods and hemlock needles are stuck against your belly. Honestly I think I like it this way.

Tomorrow I fire up the Imperial Cruiser (a 1988 K-bike that you would swear is turbine-powered) and take off down the Mother Road, across the painted desert, past the Hopi volcanic field, up through Flagstaff where there's always rain and sometimes hail, and then down, down, down into the valley, into that shimmering rotisserie that is the desert along the green Colorado, and then as dusk falls over the pass and then down into the glittering city. Can't wait.[/QUOTE]Thanks Gator's Den. Sounds like great advice. I stayed on the south strip the last 2 times I went (both this year). Maybe a change of scenery (Rio, Caesar's, etc. As you mentioned) might change my luck.

[QUOTE=GatorsDen; 1249647]There is a controversy about whether this can be negotiated in the casino or whether you should go to the room first. I think the girl has leverage once she gets to the room so I always negotiate downstairs. Others disagree vehemently.

So far I've been happy with the pre-negotiated tip. If done respectfully it's a good motivator I think[/QUOTE]I for one agree with you 100% on the negotiations taking place downstairs. I always have, and don't plan to change it. If you do it there, and she doesn't want to be clear as to the services and fees, then chances are she will be a big upsale, once you are in the room and underway. Also, she knows if she doesn't agree with the price you want, then another girl is right around the corner who probably will. It definately is a good motivator for her, and tips the scale slightly in our favor. If you wait til the room, the scale plumits to her side, LOL!

[QUOTE=Redskinzzfans;1250352]I for one agree with you 100% on the negotiations taking place downstairs. I always have, and don't plan to change it. If you do it there, and she doesn't want to be clear as to the services and fees, then chances are she will be a big upsale, once you are in the room and underway. Also, she knows if she doesn't agree with the price you want, then another girl is right around the corner who probably will. It definately is a good motivator for her, and tips the scale slightly in our favor. If you wait til the room, the scale plumits to her side, LOL![/QUOTE]Do as I say, and not always as I do. I also agree 100% with this, and have posted it all along as well. The few times that I have broken the rule I have regretted it. While nohing horrible has happened, I've ended up paying more than usual due to the fact all bargaining power is gone when up in the room. Negotiate downstairs and save a ton of headaches.

1st off thanks for recent posts, Gator and Travel they have been very helpful, I've never done the pickup scene so knowing the score helped me from making too many mistakes.

The Orleans seems to be busy today, around 7am the entire side of the first bar when you walk in had girls at it and it was a nice variety. The CG I ended up with said it was out of the ordinary for that place. Of course it was the opposite side from where I was sitting so I didn't notice them till I was about to give up and was walking to my room.

I got a weird vibe from them as I walked past so I didn't stop. Then a BCG with shoulder length blond hair curly hair tied in the back (can't remember her name) asked me how I was doing and we started talking. She mentioned $$$ I said not that much and she said we could have some fun for $$, then she started walking to my room. On the way she gave me a verbal LEO test that I passed and she was great about taking an alternate route to my room so that we could avoid people I was traveling with.

No issue with security as I flashed my room key but I could tell by the way he looked at her that she was known there. I found out later the weird vibe was because I resemble a LEO sergeant and I panicked everyone until she took a second look at me.

Since you guys have been talking about how to get started I'll give a 20/20 hindsight of what I did right and wrong before I go through the rest of the report.

Things I did right:

1. Room was prepped, valuables locked in the safe.

2. Paid her the $$ then wadded the walet inside my shirt and threw it in the chair away from where she was putting her clothes, so if she was going to try for it would be obvious.

Things I did wrong:

1. Got her down to $$ at the bar but didn't nail down what that contained. I'm kicking myself for not remembering GatorsDen's GFE joke.

2. Once she started telling me the rules I should have nailed things down completely and sent her on her way with a parting gift of $ but the wrong brain was thinking.

We got to the room and got comfortable, started feeling her out as to the rules and found the menu was limited. No kissing, no DATY, I could touch her body but not the openings. At this point I should have asked about the full menu but she has a great body and was dancing real sexy to the music on TV. She gave a nice quick massage and I spent some time playing with her Cs then she started a CBG. Her skills and vocalizations while doing it were fantastic but I'll never finish with a CBG so I mentioned switching to cowgirl, she said that wasn't on the menu for $$. At that point the little brain was in control and I gave the extra. We started and finished with mish, it was fantastic she was enjoying it as much as me. After we were done she stayed and talked for a bit.

I can't really claim "UPSELLER" with her cause she did send me the signs, but between nervousness and going far to long without, I didn't pickup on it.

I did have a great time and can recommend her, just follow the rules Gatorsden laid out better than I did. I consider the extra $ to be my Newbie tax.

Ok, I decide to try one of the Vegas escorts that have been mentioned in the forums, I give Angel Soft a call and set something up for earlier tonight (Sunday)

Angel calls me when she gets to the Orleans and I tell her what bar and where I'm sitting. A minute or two later a stunning blond that is about Angel's height and age walks up, holds eye contact, smiles, sits next to me and asks "whats up?". I said "Angel?", she replies "yes" and when I ask her about her hair she says she colored it. She then suggests we head up to the room and we walk towards the elevators.

On the way my phone rings and I see it's Angel's number is calling me, she says she left her phone with her friend and her friend is just trying to mess things up. I hit ignore but the number keeps calling, when I try to listen to the voicemail, she gets upset and says,"thats rude, I'm not playing with my phone, just turn it off.". When we get outside my room the uneasy feeling finally overwhelms my attraction to the blond. I call the Angel's number back and discover that the blond lied to me to "steal" me from Angel. So I head back downstairs with the blond in tow, trying to convince me to see her instead of Angel. I ignored her pleas, gave her enough to get a drink so she could sit at the bar and then went and found Angel.

Funny thing is, if the blond hadn't lied to me about being Angel I probably would have seen her later on tonight or tomorrow. She is very attractive and at first impressions seems like a lot of fun. But at this point the only thing I know for sure about her is that she isn't a LEO.

Vegas sure is an interesting place.

[QUOTE=Floket; 1252280]Ok, I decide to try one of the Vegas escorts that have been mentioned in the forums, I give Angel Soft a call and set something up for earlier tonight (Sunday)

Angel calls me when she gets to the Orleans and I tell her what bar and where I'm sitting. A minute or two later a stunning blond that is about Angel's height and age walks up, holds eye contact, smiles, sits next to me and asks "whats up?". I said "Angel?", she replies "yes" and when I ask her about her hair she says she colored it. She then suggests we head up to the room and we walk towards the elevators.

On the way my phone rings and I see it's Angel's number is calling me, she says she left her phone with her friend and her friend is just trying to mess things up. I hit ignore but the number keeps calling, when I try to listen to the voicemail, she gets upset and says,"thats rude, I'm not playing with my phone, just turn it off.". When we get outside my room the uneasy feeling finally overwhelms my attraction to the blond. I call the Angel's number back and discover that the blond lied to me to "steal" me from Angel. So I head back downstairs with the blond in tow, trying to convince me to see her instead of Angel. I ignored her pleas, gave her enough to get a drink so she could sit at the bar and then went and found Angel.

Funny thing is, if the blond hadn't lied to me about being Angel I probably would have seen her later on tonight or tomorrow. She is very attractive and at first impressions seems like a lot of fun. But at this point the only thing I know for sure about her is that she isn't a LEO.

Vegas sure is an interesting place.[/QUOTE]That's pretty wild but not that surprising I suppose. Seems that the slow economy is slow for CG as well. When I was out recently I chatted up a CG "friend" who I've known for a while and she said it was rough out there and she was "hustling" to make her bills. And, she is pretty damn fine looking. Just a reminder to always be on guard when on the prowl! Certainly not a game to engage in when drunk!

[QUOTE=BigBubbaBobby;1252649]That's pretty wild but not that surprising I suppose. Seems that the slow economy is slow for CG as well. When I was out recently I chatted up a CG "friend" who I've known for a while and she said it was rough out there and she was "hustling" to make her bills. And, she is pretty damn fine looking. Just a reminder to always be on guard when on the prowl! Certainly not a game to engage in when drunk![/QUOTE]So you suppose the blond had Angel's meet up info or just happened by and said yes to your "Angel?" query?

I've been getting private e-mails from providers I've seen in the past, wondering if they can set something up. Used to be initiation of that kind of contact, was a big no-no. I know of many clients who use their employer's e-mail accounts.

Now that's a great post. Thanks for the heads up. I will be there in September and I would have stayed with the better looking one and would have told the other one that tomorrow I at the same time. With so many Leo go for the one who is real.

[QUOTE=Floket; 1252280]Ok, I decide to try one of the Vegas escorts that have been mentioned in the forums, I give Angel Soft a call and set something up for earlier tonight (Sunday)

Angel calls me when she gets to the Orleans and I tell her what bar and where I'm sitting. A minute or two later a stunning blond that is about Angel's height and age walks up, holds eye contact, smiles, sits next to me and asks "whats up?". I said "Angel?", she replies "yes" and when I ask her about her hair she says she colored it. She then suggests we head up to the room and we walk towards the elevators.

On the way my phone rings and I see it's Angel's number is calling me, she says she left her phone with her friend and her friend is just trying to mess things up. I hit ignore but the number keeps calling, when I try to listen to the voicemail, she gets upset and says,"thats rude, I'm not playing with my phone, just turn it off.". When we get outside my room the uneasy feeling finally overwhelms my attraction to the blond. I call the Angel's number back and discover that the blond lied to me to "steal" me from Angel. So I head back downstairs with the blond in tow, trying to convince me to see her instead of Angel. I ignored her pleas, gave her enough to get a drink so she could sit at the bar and then went and found Angel.

Funny thing is, if the blond hadn't lied to me about being Angel I probably would have seen her later on tonight or tomorrow. She is very attractive and at first impressions seems like a lot of fun. But at this point the only thing I know for sure about her is that she isn't a LEO.

Vegas sure is an interesting place.[/QUOTE]

Since I was there last they have expanded. Now there are two casino rooms and a total of 4 casino bars. They have pole dancers now. Not exactly going for a family atmosphere, eh?

The girls tend to wander around. Best to pick a spot and wait. But keep your wee eye peeled on the way to the bathroom, sometimes there are girls looking for trouble near the Hard Rock store.

First sighting on Thursday night was a very scary bcw at 8pm at the circle bar. Lots of civilians looking for trouble. Almost got sidetracked by a gorgeous blonde MILF and by a funky little goth chick. Finally found a pretty fair-skinned Latina whose day job is doing porn films. Says her mother was also a porn star, apparently pretty famous but I wouldn't know. $$$ for unrushed DATY CBG CFS. Super great attitude. PSE. Went on and on about how much she loves her job.

There is an interesting hoe economy at hrc. The management could care less. No security at the elevator. Girls can cycle over and over again. You can get a good deal on a quickie there.

Hrc is off the beaten path but a good destination for sexual tourism especially late in the week.

Thanks for the report.

I was considering staying at the HR on my next trip.

Are there safes in the room? Any shuttles to the strip? I couldn't find info on either on their website.

[QUOTE=GatorsDen; 1253202]Since I was there last they have expanded. Now there are two casino rooms and a total of 4 casino bars. They have pole dancers now. Not exactly going for a family atmosphere, eh?

The girls tend to wander around. Best to pick a spot and wait. But keep your wee eye peeled on the way to the bathroom, sometimes there are girls looking for trouble near the Hard Rock store.

First sighting on Thursday night was a very scary bcw at 8pm at the circle bar. Lots of civilians looking for trouble. Almost got sidetracked by a gorgeous blonde MILF and by a funky little goth chick. Finally found a pretty fair-skinned Latina whose day job is doing porn films. Says her mother was also a porn star, apparently pretty famous but I wouldn't know. $$$ for unrushed DATY CBG CFS. Super great attitude. PSE. Went on and on about how much she loves her job.

There is an interesting hoe economy at hrc. The management could care less. No security at the elevator. Girls can cycle over and over again. You can get a good deal on a quickie there.

Hrc is off the beaten path but a good destination for sexual tourism especially late in the week.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=MushroomStic; 1253318]Thanks for the report.

I was considering staying at the HR on my next trip.

Are there safes in the room? Any shuttles to the strip? I couldn't find info on either on their website.[/QUOTE]I may have to think about this place too! Found this on Expedia:

ROOM AMENITIES.

Cable / satellite television channels.

Pay movies.

CD player.

Hypo-allergenic bedding available.

Premium bedding.

Climate control.

Air conditioning.

Blackout drapes / curtains.

Free local calls.

Voice mail.

Minibar.

Refrigerator (on request)

Wake-up calls.

Daily housekeeping.

Turndown service.

Designer toiletries.

Hair dryer.

Iron / ironing board.

[b]In-room safe[/b]

Desk.

Clock radio.

Electronic check-out.

Electronic / magnetic keys.

Plasma television.

Cribs (infant beds) available.

Window opens.

Wireless high-speed Internet access (complimentary)

Wired high-speed Internet access (complimentary)

The following mandatory hotel-imposed fees are charged and collected by the hotel either at check-in or check-out.

Resort fee: US$ 18 per room, per night.

Hotel resort fee inclusions:

Internet access in guestroom.

Phone calls (long-distance)

Newspaper (daily)

Use of pool.

Use of fitness center.

Use of sporting facilities or equipment.

[b]Shuttle service[/b] Expedia did not have any explanation as to what this means.

Use of business center / computer.

Concierge / valet service.

Self parking.

Valet parking.

Additional inclusions.

The above list may not be comprehensive. Mandatory hotel-imposed fees may not include tax and are subject to change.