Having never been there not sure if this is the exact location that is now for rent. [URL]https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/reb/d/kalamazoo-midtown-offices-private/6863231635.html[/URL].
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Having never been there not sure if this is the exact location that is now for rent. [URL]https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/reb/d/kalamazoo-midtown-offices-private/6863231635.html[/URL].
[QUOTE=Johnwb7;4227433]Having never been there not sure if this is the exact location that is now for rent. [URL]https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/reb/d/kalamazoo-midtown-offices-private/6863231635.html[/URL].[/QUOTE]John,
Yes that is definitely the building.
From going thru the listing pictures tho, looks to be a different suite.
Probably accessible thru the front entrance pictured.
Massage place was in the back (upper parking lot).
There are 2 suites there- 1 is dentist to the west- the other in back, is / was where the massage place was (to the East).
I say "was" because all here recently, have reported no answer / phone & no one is ever there working lately.
Hopefully they will eventually resurface here in Kzoo.
Supposedly owner did not feel location was good.
Also they always choose to be very low key & at 1 point few months ago, they were unfortunately, anything but that (check past postings here).
This same thing happened a few years ago & they did return.
Good luck- Be safe.
JJ.
[URL]http://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/relax-escape-rejuvenate-massag/672524514216[/URL]
Does anyone know if she offers extras?
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;4233137][URL]http://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/relax-escape-rejuvenate-massag/672524514216[/URL]
Does anyone know if she offers extras?[/QUOTE]Hey Sly,
She does provide extras but they are way over priced. I haven't seen her in a long time, but when I did, it was $40 for HH massage, $100 for Hour massage. That's just a massage.
Then it was 60 extra for a HJ & 120 extra for a BBBJCIM. She would drop the shirt and let the girls out.
Her massage was very good, but those extras were way over priced. So you would be coming out of $160-220 to not get the whole show. For that much you can get better service. Just my thoughts.
Sircody.
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;4233137][URL]http://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/relax-escape-rejuvenate-massag/672524514216[/URL]
Does anyone know if she offers extras?[/QUOTE]See if you can find info in the backpages forum, I think she was from there.
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;4233137][URL]http://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/relax-escape-rejuvenate-massag/672524514216[/URL]
Does anyone know if she offers extras?[/QUOTE]I recognize her from BP, was told here on the forms that standard HE can be had but everything is a ridiculous upcharge. Talking $. 5 for topless and $$ for nude. Also seem to remember being told her massage is only light touch and not very good.
http://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/relax-escape-rejuvenate-massag/672524514216
Avoid her. Overpriced and only allows what you can do on your own.
Worst experience ever.
[QUOTE=DaveyDuck;4233468]http://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/relax-escape-rejuvenate-massag/672524514216
Avoid her. Overpriced and only allows what you can do on your own.
Worst experience ever.[/QUOTE]That was my recollection of past reviews too!
[QUOTE=DaveyDuck;4233468]http://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_e/relax-escape-rejuvenate-massag/672524514216
Avoid her. Overpriced and only allows what you can do on your own.
Worst experience ever.[/QUOTE]Ahhh Lisa. Yes, she is overpriced. I saw her quite a few years ago, and the first time was actually not so bad. She did a BJ and a decent massage for I think $120 or $150 an hour. She would do FS back then for $250. I think I did a half hour. A year or so later I met her and she was different and like she is now.
It is good that a new report is here for her so newbies know to avoid her.
Long time lurker. Wondering if anybody has been to massage works in the past 6 months?
[QUOTE=RubMeLonger;4248231]Long time lurker. Wondering if anybody has been to massage works in the past 6 months?[/QUOTE]I have not. I used to go quite a bit a year or two ago before the Whitcomb place came. I doubt much has changed there, especially if YuYu or whatever her name is is still around. Average to below average massage with self serve most of the time if you're lucky.
Hey gents,
I have an unexpected trip in to kzoo. I am wonder about MP with HE nothing else is required. If they let the girls oit or are nude all the better. Or if they are AA or BBW that is great to. Please feel free to reapond or DM.
Thanks,
Mike.
I'm looking for recommendations. What's a good place within 50 miles of Kalamazoo where I can get a decent 4 hand massage? Hopefully with extras, but not necessarily required.
Guys, I love an AM esp with the right extras.
Have been a regular at all 3 major AMPs in Kal & BC for years.
All Spring & Happy (BC) for the last 5 yrs or so.
Getting tired of the drive though, from Kzoo.
So would like to know, what any / all mongers, who've been to TLC lately have to say / report??
It's still open, so someone's got to be going there.
Even if the talent is repeat from prev there, would just like some variety & convenience.
Please post / report men, any / all intel on what's happening at TLC Spa in Kzoo.
Help- Calling All Mongers! LOL.
Feel free to post or PM me with details.
Thanks in Advance.
JJ.
So, I went to TLC about 6 months ago and the experience was just. Okay. I mean, it wasn't bad enough that I felt like I needed to warn anyone on the board here against it. But it also wasn't good enough that I felt like it warranted a review.
Just. Okay.
Once Whitcomb was around, that became my go-to. I honestly haven't had the opportunity to go anywhere since Whitcomb closed down.
[QUOTE=JJletsplay;4325142]Guys, I love an AM esp with the right extras.
Have been a regular at all 3 major AMPs in Kal & BC for years.
All Spring & Happy (BC) for the last 5 yrs or so.
Getting tired of the drive though, from Kzoo.
So would like to know, what any / all mongers, who've been to TLC lately have to say / report??
It's still open, so someone's got to be going there.
Even if the talent is repeat from prev there, would just like some variety & convenience.
Please post / report men, any / all intel on what's happening at TLC Spa in Kzoo.
Help- Calling All Mongers! LOL.
Feel free to post or PM me with details.
Thanks in Advance.
JJ.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=BoobieMcGee;4325749]So, I went to TLC about 6 months ago and the experience was just. Okay. I mean, it wasn't bad enough that I felt like I needed to warn anyone on the board here against it. But it also wasn't good enough that I felt like it warranted a review.
Just. Okay.
Once Whitcomb was around, that became my go-to. I honestly haven't had the opportunity to go anywhere since Whitcomb closed down.[/QUOTE]Hey Boobie,
I too was same w / Whitcomb Massage switchover in Kzoo.
When seeking more extras, then went to BC.
Like I say, has been literally years since last TLC session.
I know there was 1 review a short while ago, but that's all I've heard in quite a while on TLC / talent / service.
Hoping others will add to the intel. Please.
Either post or PM is just fine.
Any Specifics prob better to PM me.
Be safe men.
JJ.
Hey Mongers,
Well, a new massage place opened in Hartford and since I was coming from the west heading east on I94 I decided to TOFFT and check it out.
I could tell by the website that it looked like another version of Blessings (W. Michigan) but stilled thought, "What the heck".
I tried to set up an appointment, but never got a response, so I just stopped by since they were just opening. It is in "downtown" Hartford at 11 W. Main St next door to the police station. I go in and I'm greeted by the lady (Mid-Fifties) I pay for an hour and she leads me to the room. It is an older place that probably hasn't been rented in a while.
To make a long story short, it is exactly the same massage you would get at Blessing. There is no teasing (Not even a little bit) but a good massage.
Then we get to the flip. Still no teasing, but she puts my hand on Jr who was not in salute mode by the way, so I move my hand. Reason: To be honest fellow mongers, I am not into self service. I have done it once or twice, but prefer not too. About two minutes later, she puts my hand back and I ask, "are you going to help?" I motion, are you going to juggle the marbles? She nods No. I ask, "under the clothes roaming?" She nods No. So I tell her I have no interest and to just finish the massage.
She asked, "you okay" I said sure. She wiped the oil off and I get dressed. I give her $10 tip and leave.
Honestly, I would not make a trip out there if I were any of you when you can go to Blessings and get the same massage closer. I won't repeat, but wanted to give you fellas a heads up.
Kinda, hoped for Whitcomb 2. 0 but no go.
Later,
Sircody.
This is run by same group as Asian Massage in kzoo and GR. I drove out to Hartford last night to try, but the LE vehicle was parked there. It is next door to city hall where they hang out, but it appeared to me they were taking down plates. I left and came back an hour later and the same SUV drove through again. I may have just been paranoid, but it is just not a comfortable parking situation.
[QUOTE=SirCody;4331830]Hey Mongers,
Well, a new massage place opened in Hartford and since I was coming from the west heading east on I94 I decided to TOFFT and check it out.
I could tell by the website that it looked like another version of Blessings (W. Michigan) but stilled thought, "What the heck".
I tried to set up an appointment, but never got a response, so I just stopped by since they were just opening. It is in "downtown" Hartford at 11 W. Main St next door to the police station. I go in and I'm greeted by the lady (Mid-Fifties) I pay for an hour and she leads me to the room. It is an older place that probably hasn't been rented in a while.
To make a long story short, it is exactly the same massage you would get at Blessing. There is no teasing (Not even a little bit) but a good massage.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=SirCody;4331830]Hey Mongers,
Well, a new massage place opened in Hartford and since I was coming from the west heading east on I94 I decided to TOFFT and check it out.
I could tell by the website that it looked like another version of Blessings (W. Michigan) but stilled thought, "What the heck".
I tried to set up an appointment, but never got a response, so I just stopped by since they were just opening. It is in "downtown" Hartford at 11 W. Main St next door to the police station. I go in and I'm greeted by the lady (Mid-Fifties) I pay for an hour and she leads me to the room. It is an older place that probably hasn't been rented in a while.
To make a long story short, it is exactly the same massage you would get at Blessing. There is no teasing (Not even a little bit) but a good massage.
Then we get to the flip. Still no teasing, but she puts my hand on Jr who was not in salute mode by the way, so I move my hand. Reason: To be honest fellow mongers, I am not into self service. I have done it once or twice, but prefer not too. About two minutes later, she puts my hand back and I ask, "are you going to help?" I motion, are you going to juggle the marbles? She nods No. I ask, "under the clothes roaming?" She nods No. So I tell her I have no interest and to just finish the massage.
She asked, "you okay" I said sure. She wiped the oil off and I get dressed. I give her $10 tip and leave.
Honestly, I would not make a trip out there if I were any of you when you can go to Blessings and get the same massage closer. I won't repeat, but wanted to give you fellas a heads up.
Kinda, hoped for Whitcomb 2. 0 but no go.
Later,
Sircody.[/QUOTE]I hear you SirCody.
We could certainly use another Whitcomb Asian Massage here in Kzoo.
Let's remember tho, that they were open here several years back, left / closed for a while, then re-appeared on Whitcomb.
Same staff & same mgmt.
So there is hope that after some distancing, that they'll re-open here.
Patience is a virtue.
Be well & careful, JJ.
[QUOTE=INeedaBJ616B;4332704]This is run by same group as Asian Massage in kzoo and GR. I drove out to Hartford last night to try, but the LE vehicle was parked there. It is next door to city hall where they hang out, but it appeared to me they were taking down plates. I left and came back an hour later and the same SUV drove through again. I may have just been paranoid, but it is just not a comfortable parking situation.[/QUOTE]INeedaBJ,
I too would have felt very weird about that situation at Massage in Hartford.
Even if I expected & got no extras.
Why they would locate next door to the Cop shop, is honestly beyond me.
That will cost them big time, I am Sure.
You were smart & safe, not paranoid.
Take care,
JJ.
I haven't posted in years as I got burned back on a couple of the old sites. But thought this would be worth mentioning.
With how busy you mongers are keeping Asian on Michigan, I tried out Hartford since I was out that way. Nina was a very pretty, thin young lady. She was dressed in a short tight skirt and a nicely revealing top. Her massage skills were great. I go to get a very sensual massage and leave the other activities to others. Nina is sweet, the massage very good and I left relaxed. I'll go back.
[QUOTE=Brilithos;4357291]I haven't posted in years as I got burned back on a couple of the old sites. But thought this would be worth mentioning.
With how busy you mongers are keeping Asian on Michigan, I tried out Hartford since I was out that way. Nina was a very pretty, thin young lady. She was dressed in a short tight skirt and a nicely revealing top. Her massage skills were great. I go to get a very sensual massage and leave the other activities to others. Nina is sweet, the massage very good and I left relaxed. I'll go back.[/QUOTE]I recently saw nina too. Very cute girl. She gave a decent massage. No extras. Level 0. Which locating next to cop shop is okay since offering a good therapeutic massage.
There is no reason to take plates given this is therapeutic massage.
With the lack of options in the area, I've been to the asian massage on w michigan past oasis hot tubs a couple times recently. They have a couple attractive younger girls. They offer some teasing but only self serve. No big deal, as I knew what I was in for. I did $60/ hr but both time the girls (different ones) scoffed at my (generous) $20 tip demanding more. LOL, I should tip myself. They give really good massage though.
[QUOTE=MD2020;4404078]With the lack of options in the area, I've been to the asian massage on w michigan past oasis hot tubs a couple times recently. They have a couple attractive younger girls. They offer some teasing but only self serve. No big deal, as I knew what I was in for. I did $60/ hr but both time the girls (different ones) scoffed at my (generous) $20 tip demanding more. LOL, I should tip myself. They give really good massage though.[/QUOTE]I've been there several times and I agree about the young, attractive masseuses and the good quality massage.
I just wish the level of service would increase. If anyone has a more optimistic scouting report, please PM.
After work today I stopped by TLC. I didn't have high expectations. I got Lynney (sp? The girl is short and stout, the only way to describe her shape is a square, she is about as wide as she is tall. Face not great either. The only plus is she wasn't ancient, probably early 30's.
Pretty good massage. I like medium to harder pressure, and she accommodated. Worked all the kinks out. On the flip, she went right for the goodies. I said that I wanted her to use her mouth not her hands. She said $100, I said $70, we agreed on $80. She did a good BJ.
She is definitely nothing to look at, but decent services all around. I would probably repeat. So $40 door fee, and $80 tip.
[QUOTE=MD2020;4404078]With the lack of options in the area, I've been to the asian massage on w michigan past oasis hot tubs a couple times recently. They have a couple attractive younger girls. They offer some teasing but only self serve. No big deal, as I knew what I was in for. I did $60/ hr but both time the girls (different ones) scoffed at my (generous) $20 tip demanding more. LOL, I should tip myself. They give really good massage though.[/QUOTE]With self serve, do they just watch you? Never been in that situation.
[QUOTE=SlyGuy12;4405868]After work today I stopped by TLC. I didn't have high expectations. I got Lynney (sp? The girl is short and stout, the only way to describe her shape is a square, she is about as wide as she is tall. Face not great either. The only plus is she wasn't ancient, probably early 30's.
Pretty good massage. I like medium to harder pressure, and she accommodated. Worked all the kinks out. On the flip, she went right for the goodies. I said that I wanted her to use her mouth not her hands. She said $100, I said $70, we agreed on $80. She did a good BJ.
She is definitely nothing to look at, but decent services all around. I would probably repeat. So $40 door fee, and $80 tip.[/QUOTE]Well good massage service & some poss extras are important.
Esp these days.
CBJ of BBJ- which was your experience with her Sly?
Curious & thinking of stopping back after many many moons.
Be Safe, JJ.
[QUOTE=NecroChaos1;4406407]With self serve, do they just watch you? Never been in that situation.[/QUOTE]Necro,
Many mongers don't seem to mind the self service ending, to a no extras massage.
I for one, think it's strange with them just watching.
Makes it difficult for me to even get excited enough.
I pass on that, but w / that too YMMV.
Be happy,
JJ.
[QUOTE=NecroChaos1;4406407]With self serve, do they just watch you? Never been in that situation.[/QUOTE]If it is like Massage Works, then they will massage you in more sensitive parts and may get close but not touch the most sensitive part.
That brings up a question for me. Do they allow any hand roaming on them at the Asian Spa? Massage Works kind of did.
(I did get more than self-serve at MW twice but then I moved on over to Whitcomb. MW allowed lots of roaming those two times).
Hi men,
I've been talking about trying TLC again- its close & easier / no extra drive.
Finally did yesterday & was underwhelmed.
Different nicer Mama. Did HH /40. Showed me back to room.
Facility still kinda dirty.
In came a lady who I swear must have been almost 70 yo.
Had a hot bod but come on!
So I asked if anyone younger working.
She agreed & called in Yoko.
Slim, cute & hot spinner type. Plus much younger thank god.
Gave good massage & on flip asked if I wanted FS.
Wasn't going to tip that much, since first trip back & unsure. Negotiated hard to 80/ tip for CBJ.
She did not give good French at all. Too rough!
Like sticking it in a vacuum cleaner hose, set to high- LOL.
After short time, I pulled off the raincoat & said give me an HJ.
Still rough- She had no sensual / sexual touch.
But at least Junior finally spit up in satisfaction.
IMO, still only good in a pinch at TLC.
I'd rather drive 25 minutes each way & have better dreams.
YMMV, but IMO just like I left it years ago at TLC.
& That was Not Good.
Be safe, JJ.
Hi! I'm new to the massage parlor hobby and I really want to try. Is tlc good later on at night? Or is it too risky to go. Dying for a release and I'm thinking about going tonight. Thanks!
[QUOTE=Macatawa;4407047]If it is like Massage Works, then they will massage you in more sensitive parts and may get close but not touch the most sensitive part.
That brings up a question for me. Do they allow any hand roaming on them at the Asian Spa? Massage Works kind of did.
(I did get more than self-serve at MW twice but then I moved on over to Whitcomb. MW allowed lots of roaming those two times).[/QUOTE]Basically no, they are very stingy with roaming even OTC from my experience. As always YMMV, but I doubt it.
[QUOTE=MD2020;4404078]With the lack of options in the area, I've been to the asian massage on w michigan past oasis hot tubs a couple times recently. They have a couple attractive younger girls. They offer some teasing but only self serve. No big deal, as I knew what I was in for. I did $60/ hr but both time the girls (different ones) scoffed at my (generous) $20 tip demanding more. LOL, I should tip myself. They give really good massage though.[/QUOTE]I decided to try this for myself.
My experience was very similar to yours. I asked for a medium to light massage and was given something similar to what I would get at MW.
I got a younger attractive girl who really had a pretty face. She was a slim and was dressed in blue jeans and a yellow top that was not tucked in. She used il and massaged me with a medium touch except around my shoulders. She really massaged them and they still hurt the next day. She then began doing the tickle massage all around my bum area and did it over my whole back middle section never touching the boys. It was a turn on as she intended.
I was then flipped over and she began massaging me around the middle area and my chest. She took my hand and put some oil on it and made an indication like I was to do self-serve. I shook my head no as there was a half hour to go. She really did a good tease massage. As for roaming, she allowed my hands to touch her belly and back as much as I liked. Nothing else though. This is more than MW but less than Whitcomb. This continued until about five minutes from the end and because of her close teasing to the boys, I hardly had to do much of a self-serve.
When I walked out, I gave her a 20 for a tip, and she said, "More" a couple of times with the sweetest eyes, but I responded with, Nest time you do more, I give you more" and laughed.
It was a nice hour, and I will repeat at some point. Being that I am spending less time in the hobby, it may be awhile. For those who go in knowing what you get and don't get, it is an enjoyable time.
My gut says that it is not a Whitcomb at all, but it is definitely a couple of steps above Massage Works in cleanliness and the girls.
[QUOTE=Macatawa;4413490]I decided to try this for myself.
My experience was very similar to yours. I asked for a medium to light massage and was given something similar to what I would get at MW.
I got a younger attractive girl who really had a pretty face. She was a slim and was dressed in blue jeans and a yellow top that was not tucked in. She used il and massaged me with a medium touch except around my shoulders. She really massaged them and they still hurt the next day. She then began doing the tickle massage all around my bum area and did it over my whole back middle section never touching the boys. It was a turn on as she intended.
I was then flipped over and she began massaging me around the middle area and my chest. She took my hand and put some oil on it and made an indication like I was to do self-serve. I shook my head no as there was a half hour to go. She really did a good tease massage. As for roaming, she allowed my hands to touch her belly and back as much as I liked. Nothing else though. This is more than MW but less than Whitcomb. This continued until about five minutes from the end and because of her close teasing to the boys, I hardly had to do much of a self-serve.
When I walked out, I gave her a 20 for a tip, and she said, "More" a couple of times with the sweetest eyes, but I responded with, Nest time you do more, I give you more" and laughed.
It was a nice hour, and I will repeat at some point. Being that I am spending less time in the hobby, it may be awhile. For those who go in knowing what you get and don't get, it is an enjoyable time.
My gut says that it is not a Whitcomb at all, but it is definitely a couple of steps above Massage Works in cleanliness and the girls.[/QUOTE]Thanks for the update. My first two visits to Asian Massage featured a decent massage but no hint of anything "playful. " As a result, I've visited Battle Creek where the return on investment is pretty good. Sounds like it might be time for another visit to Asian Massage. If anyone has more details, feel free to PM.
[QUOTE=Electronman;4413980]Thanks for the update. My first two visits to Asian Massage featured a decent massage but no hint of anything "playful. " As a result, I've visited Battle Creek where the return on investment is pretty good. Sounds like it might be time for another visit to Asian Massage. If anyone has more details, feel free to PM.[/QUOTE]Assuming you mean Relax, yes, the ROI is much better. I would go there more, but I have gone in the evening, and I always get the older lady. She is very pleasant and allows me to do pretty much what I want, but I know there is a younger one, and I would like variety. Have you gone in the evening and gotten the younger one? Anyone?
[QUOTE=Macatawa;4414050]Assuming you mean Relax, yes, the ROI is much better. I would go there more, but I have gone in the evening, and I always get the older lady. She is very pleasant and allows me to do pretty much what I want, but I know there is a younger one, and I would like variety. Have you gone in the evening and gotten the younger one? Anyone?[/QUOTE]Apologies for being vague about Battle Creek. I was referring to Spring and Happy. I've never been to Relax.
[QUOTE=JJLetsPlay;4053598]The convo you pulled from, was about whether the original post (believe for Ouliksak), was referring to Bunni Strokes Or Bunny Baby.
Bunni Strokes- daily ads. Massage. STG.
As a matter of fact- just posted here!
Been long time since I've Seen her (was referring to her in that exact post).
Bunny Babe- Great- FS- Nice- easy contact when advertising (also STG).
Can give you her info via PM.
She seems to be taking time off (post Newer Baby).
Others have also tried lately, to no avail / luck.
JJ.[/QUOTE]I got the two mixed up and accidentally ended up at strokes. OMG. Don't make that mistake.
[QUOTE=Macatawa;4413490]I decided to try this for myself.
My experience was very similar to yours. I asked for a medium to light massage and was given something similar to what I would get at MW.
I got a younger attractive girl who really had a pretty face. She was a slim and was dressed in blue jeans and a yellow top that was not tucked in. She used il and massaged me with a medium touch except around my shoulders. She really massaged them and they still hurt the next day. She then began doing the tickle massage all around my bum area and did it over my whole back middle section never touching the boys. It was a turn on as she intended.
I was then flipped over and she began massaging me around the middle area and my chest. She took my hand and put some oil on it and made an indication like I was to do self-serve. I shook my head no as there was a half hour to go. She really did a good tease massage. As for roaming, she allowed my hands to touch her belly and back as much as I liked. Nothing else though. This is more than MW but less than Whitcomb. This continued until about five minutes from the end and because of her close teasing to the boys, I hardly had to do much of a self-serve.
When I walked out, I gave her a 20 for a tip, and she said, "More" a couple of times with the sweetest eyes, but I responded with, Nest time you do more, I give you more" and laughed.
It was a nice hour, and I will repeat at some point. Being that I am spending less time in the hobby, it may be awhile. For those who go in knowing what you get and don't get, it is an enjoyable time.
My gut says that it is not a Whitcomb at all, but it is definitely a couple of steps above Massage Works in cleanliness and the girls.[/QUOTE]The advertising from Asian Massage on West Michigan seems to suggest a sexier massage experience. Obviously, I'm reading too much into the advertisement.
[URL]https://bodyrubshop.com/ads/asian-massage-new-asian-girls-269-359-5473-13020577[/URL]
[QUOTE=Electronman;4429718]The advertising from Asian Massage on West Michigan seems to suggest a sexier massage experience. Obviously, I'm reading too much into the advertisement.
[URL]https://bodyrubshop.com/ads/asian-massage-new-asian-girls-269-359-5473-13020577[/URL][/QUOTE]There may be. At this point from my one visit, I didn't get that impression. I usually get offered something extra on a first visit at places that have extras.
The girls do looks similar to the pictures and may be the ones in the pictures.
Maybe after a few visits more will happen, but so far no one has gotten more yet, or they aren't talking which is really wise.
If anyone visits Carli Ray for any reason and that may only be totally legit, can you PM me?