Streetwalker Reports

Yep, I noticed that too.

Actually saw the cruiser and had about 5-6 SW's.

I guess checking their records and issuing citations.

This was about 5:30.

[QUOTE=Mazda05; 1200232]Yep, I noticed that too.

Actually saw the cruiser and had about 5-6 SW's.

I guess checking their records and issuing citations.

This was about 5:30. [/QUOTE]Was out around noon today with heavy le flying from place to place.

Came up on the cheapest head I've ever gotten last night. Was on my way home around midnight last night, so I decided to take the scenic rout. I actually was just going to drive down LBB just to look at the work, being I had to be at work early. A lot of action last night, about 10 BSW's, but also a lot of LE activity. So I decided to drive off the track. Got past Myrrh and spotted a WSW in front of Rite Aid, made eye contact and made a U. Picked her up at the liquer store across the street. I told her she had to show me something to get in my car, so she showedme her cat. She told me she had a room, and it was 40 for FS, but I told her I wanted just head. She said 30, so I countered with 20 and she agreed. I asked her for a BBBJ and she said 25, so I agreed. Must be fate, went to 2 ATM's and none wrked, so I told her I'd have to reschedule, so she asked me how much I had on me, and I told her $7. She said she'd take it, but I have to be quick and we can't go to her room. I agreed. She stopped after about 5 mins and was about to go, but I struck a deal with her ro give her a ride home to finish me off. End Result: BBBJCIM, for 7 BUCKS! And a ride. Service was a 7, looks was a 7, body was a 6. 5. She goes by the name of Katie.

She told me all I have to do is go to her notel and ask for her and they'll call her up nd she'll come get me. I'll definately be doing that again

[QUOTE=Mr Watts; 1200654]Came up on the cheapest head I've ever gotten last night. Was on my way home around midnight last night, so I decided to take the scenic rout. I actually was just going to drive down LBB just to look at the work, being I had to be at work early. A lot of action last night, about 10 BSW's, but also a lot of LE activity. So I decided to drive off the track. Got past Myrrh and spotted a WSW in front of Rite Aid, made eye contact and made a U. Picked her up at the liquer store across the street. I told her she had to show me something to get in my car, so she showedme her cat. She told me she had a room, and it was 40 for FS, but I told her I wanted just head. She said 30, so I countered with 20 and she agreed. I asked her for a BBBJ and she said 25, so I agreed. Must be fate, went to 2 ATM's and none wrked, so I told her I'd have to reschedule, so she asked me how much I had on me, and I told her $7. She said she'd take it, but I have to be quick and we can't go to her room. I agreed. She stopped after about 5 mins and was about to go, but I struck a deal with her ro give her a ride home to finish me off. End Result: BBBJCIM, for 7 BUCKS! And a ride. Service was a 7, looks was a 7, body was a 6. 5. She goes by the name of Katie.

She told me all I have to do is go to her notel and ask for her and they'll call her up nd she'll come get me. I'll definately be doing that again[/QUOTE]What a great deal. Very nice job Mr Watts.

5/23 On Monday after my cruise from fig I made my way to long beach bl hoe stroll. Made a right turn on imperial and made my way onto long beach bl. Past the freeway overpass. NO action by those motels by the swapmeet. Saw a cute black street walker at the hub motel. Slimly built with some long sexy leggs. Went down past alondra where that liquor is past the next hotel on the corner there was about 5 BSW kicking back. Saw a few more down the street. This was about 5pm.

Saw B&W with two guys on the hood, South bound another B&W. 6 walking and two on the corner hailing north & south bound. One BSW with blond hair, she was on the corner. Only one made eye contact and she looked the best of the lot. Moving to fast to slow down. Long center divider and one car speeding with no light in the opposite direction. All this is embedded between two fws and side streets narrow.

[QUOTE=Mr Watts; 1200654]Came up on the cheapest head I've ever gotten last night. Was on my way home around midnight last night, so I decided to take the scenic rout. I actually was just going to drive down LBB just to look at the work, being I had to be at work early. A lot of action last night, about 10 BSW's, but also a lot of LE activity. So I decided to drive off the track. Got past Myrrh and spotted a WSW in front of Rite Aid, made eye contact and made a U. Picked her up at the liquer store across the street. I told her she had to show me something to get in my car, so she showedme her cat. She told me she had a room, and it was 40 for FS, but I told her I wanted just head. She said 30, so I countered with 20 and she agreed. I asked her for a BBBJ and she said 25, so I agreed. Must be fate, went to 2 ATM's and none wrked, so I told her I'd have to reschedule, so she asked me how much I had on me, and I told her $7. She said she'd take it, but I have to be quick and we can't go to her room. I agreed. She stopped after about 5 mins and was about to go, but I struck a deal with her ro give her a ride home to finish me off. End Result: BBBJCIM, for 7 BUCKS! And a ride. Service was a 7, looks was a 7, body was a 6. 5. She goes by the name of Katie.

She told me all I have to do is go to her notel and ask for her and they'll call her up nd she'll come get me. I'll definately be doing that again.[/QUOTE]

Made a swing by this evening around 11pm. Very little LEO activity. Just one car and it may have been following the Fire truck that turned the corner earlier. About 4 BSW on the prowl. One brunette WSW in a white corset that looked pretty nice. She was just a few blocks south of the 105. Tried to stop and say Hi but she was scooped before I could get there.

Happy hunting gentlemen.

Headed home today around 6:00 pm and cruised the LBB TRack and passed Rosecrans Blvd and traffic.

Was super heavy and I was curious as to why. I thought their might be an accident but as I came through this part off the track and it was off the hook. I don't remember seeing anything like this in quite a while. At least 15-20 SW's and fine ass ones too. Noticed that the pimps were out too by the tobacco shop. SUnshine was out too again.

I was definitely impressed. At this time heavy "le" presence was out on the track and pretty much telling the girls to split. But damn! It was crazy today. Pre-memorial day weekend I guess. Nice looking honeys! 11.

Have a safe weekend everyone out there.

Cruised the track around today again at around 3:00 and it was bumping again.

Lots of hoes out and about today. Very good quality out there especially near Rancho Market and COmpton fashion center.

Lots of selection.

There was one WSW / LSW with at money sign tattoo on her upper back that was very visible with daisy duke type shorts. She bent over on purpose for all us and gave us a show. All the fools starting honking their horn.

I don't remember the track being this popping. I got me A "CBJ" from fine looking sista for 40. 00.

DAMN!

This is 2 reports in one went out yesterday to lbb for some quick fun. Started from 105 got to the street rite past the shopping center and found a girl I used to hook up with named jasmine BSW Bhutan giant tits. So I went for it nothing special like usual just some tit play until I got that nut. Than I went out again today and there was some nice ladies out. All were around the shopping center one BSW had on some real tite pink stretch pants that looked so good and I saw another BSW in a purple dress that was also top quality. There was one very nice either LSW or WSW but like usual whenever I see some high quality ass I can't partake because I'm not alone. Damn damn double damn.

Cruised LBB around 530-630. Right away, I saw several girls that I thought I want to see, so decided to check the area for LE. Good thing. Started seeing them up and down the blvd from from Alondra to the CFC. They were stopping the girls and had at least one car pulled over. Saw one parked behind the BofA too. Too dangerous for me so I left.

Be safe and keep your eyes open.

BJH

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Hey yall new to site seen the pics on here and want to know if anyone has there contact info seen them and I just have to have them

Hey does anyone know what happened to leslie I haven't seen her in a while and I was wondering if anyone has her digits if so please pm me.

I'm passing this along from one of my friends that does not post on here but he is a Compton gangster and told me to let people know on here about the predicament he had last night that he was probably a little more prepared for than most other Mongers would be.

"I saw this cute young LSW small and short a little thick in the waist asked her for BJ she said. 5 and wouldn't budge so I said fuck it. So we found a dark spot on a side street. So I paid her and the ***** couldn't count. So she goes at it without a cover and it was great I was laid back in the seat enjoying this and the passenger door flys open and some black guy grabs her and points something at me and says to sit back or I'm going to smoke you. At this point hes literraly caught me with my pants down. Hes got her by the hair saying hell dome her if I don't listen and she's all tearing up. He tells me this is Piru and I'm in his hood (I think he was a smoker and if he was from Piru he was a drop out because he didn't say what Piru) and I was like what you want homie and hes like I want the money and I said I gave her all the money I got and he keeps telling me to lay back but I don't (I think he only had a knife) and hes telling her where is the money and she gives it to him. And hes like lay back and so I did it was easier for me to grab my strap without him noticing. Then he heard the Slide on the strap clack back and his eyes lit up and I said I would advise you to start walking and he said a very nervous OK.

So I pull up my pants throw the car in reverse and I see a car around the corner about to take off I tell the girl there he is and she's all crying saying just let it go and as mad as I was I thought she was probably right I don't need to do something stupid with a dumb ***** for a witness. So I take off and go out the area and she's calling her pimp crying saying she got jacked and I told her I would give her more to finish the job but they are telling her to get dropped off and she was telling them where she was at and then she wanted to just get out so I let her off.

I end up circling around the block and I spot that fools car again and he sees me and takes off I pursue but hes running red lights and I can't get pulled over. Then I start thinking theyve got to be working together and she's no where to be seen. So I call up a few of my homeboys and tell them to get to this side of town to help me catch this fool. I spot him going north on LBB by McDonalds and I was going to make a U-turn but there was a sheriff right there looking at me so I went straight. Then I saw him one more time and he took off down one of the side streets with all those big speed bumps flying over them so I lost him again I wasnt going to fuk my car up. The homies came in 2 cars and we patrolled the area for like an hour but didn't see him any more.

If he keeps doing this Ill catch up with him and some monger will be happy to see me come save the day as he gets his ass whipped trying to rob some unknowing foo."

He said he was in like a beat up gold colored 90s Nissan sentra or Toyota the front drivers side hubcap is missing and the girl doesn't look like a typical SW

Be Careful Out there guys

And the daytime outfits get better.

[QUOTE=MrJose;1209516]And the daytime outfits get better.[/QUOTE]Very nice outfits I love those pants.

I don't see anyone talking about PCH anymore in Long Beach. Has that dried up?

This happened to me almost 2 years ago on fig. It was early morning around 6am still dark out. I pick up one of my regulars and we proceed to the next street over. I got my pants down around my ankles and she is giving me a BJ. I bust a nut and we start to cleanup, she from what I remember rolls down the window and then the door slings open and some pinche SHVARTZA grab her purse, reaches in and turns off my car, starts talking shit about money whatever. I lay on the horn he backs off for a sec long enough for me to start the car and peel out.

I always lock my doors but I he must of got in when she through out the wipes. He was also yelling for one of his buddies to come help him but he never came. Also later I found a universal remote control in my car. I think he had that in his pocket pretending to have a gun. Anyway the ho lost her purse with the money.

I am fairly certain she was not involved.

Point is to always lock your car doors and drive far enough from the area.

[QUOTE=Jedi1; 1209400]I'm passing this along from one of my friends that does not post on here but he is a Compton gangster and told me to let people know on here about the predicament he had last night that he was probably a little more prepared for than most other Mongers would be.

"I saw this cute young LSW small and short a little thick in the waist asked her for BJ she said. 5 and wouldn't budge so I said fuck it. So we found a dark spot on a side street. So I paid her and the * couldn't count. So she goes at it without a cover and it was great I was laid back in the seat enjoying this and the passenger door flys open and some black guy grabs her and points something at me and says to sit back or I'm going to smoke you. At this point hes literraly caught me with my pants down. Hes got her by the hair saying hell dome her if I don't listen and she's all tearing up. He tells me this is Piru and I'm in his hood (I think he was a smoker and if he was from Piru he was a drop out because he didn't say what Piru) and I was like what you want homie and hes like I want the money and I said I gave her all the money I got and he keeps telling me to lay back but I don't (I think he only had a knife) and hes telling her where is the money and she gives it to him. And hes like lay back and so I did it was easier for me to grab my strap without him noticing. Then he heard the Slide on the strap clack back and his eyes lit up and I said I would advise you to start walking and he said a very nervous OK.

So I pull up my pants throw the car in reverse and I see a car around the corner about to take off I tell the girl there he is and she's all crying saying just let it go and as mad as I was I thought she was probably right I don't need to do something stupid with a dumb * for a witness. So I take off and go out the area and she's calling her pimp crying saying she got jacked and I told her I would give her more to finish the job but they are telling her to get dropped off and she was telling them where she was at and then she wanted to just get out so I let her off.

I end up circling around the block and I spot that fools car again and he sees me and takes off I pursue but hes running red lights and I can't get pulled over. Then I start thinking theyve got to be working together and she's no where to be seen. So I call up a few of my homeboys and tell them to get to this side of town to help me catch this fool. I spot him going north on LBB by McDonalds and I was going to make a U-turn but there was a sheriff right there looking at me so I went straight. Then I saw him one more time and he took off down one of the side streets with all those big speed bumps flying over them so I lost him again I wasnt going to fuk my car up. The homies came in 2 cars and we patrolled the area for like an hour but didn't see him any more.

If he keeps doing this Ill catch up with him and some monger will be happy to see me come save the day as he gets his ass whipped trying to rob some unknowing foo."

He said he was in like a beat up gold colored 90s Nissan sentra or Toyota the front drivers side hubcap is missing and the girl doesn't look like a typical SW

Be Careful Out there guys[/QUOTE]

Today I cruised the LBB stroll. Lots of BSW out with the usual attitude. I am always looking for a GFE experience which is hard to find whether on the street or on Backpage. Even if they agree to DFK and DATY, once they have the donation, they often cool off, change the rules and start rushing me. I get disappointed a lot, but today was an exception.

First I texted Baldy's latest favorite Layla but she is no longer seeing Baldy's friends. (thanks a lot to the guy who blew it for the rest of us). Then I went to Bludso's ribs for a great lunch that I ate in my car. Then I cruised LBB. I found one very young BSW behind the Hub motel who agreed to DFK. We agreed to. 8 for 30 minutes but I backed out at the last minute because I didn't really believe that she would get into it. Then I headed north on LBB where I met Sunshine on the corner of a narrow side-street off of LBB. She is a 25 year old gorgeous HSW, a little on the thick side, but she had an absolutely beautiful face, smile, tits and butt. She was wearing a cute dress but nothing whorish. She just looked like a nice cute young girl. When I asked her about kissing she said "sure" without any hesitation. That was a good sign. We agreed on $ for a half hour and she hopped in and we went to the notel on Compton and Bradfield AV.

Sunshine was everything that I hoped for and more. We started with some DFK. She was very passionate. Then I did some DATY. She moaned and squirmed and talked dirty too me. This is one hot chick. I kept my underpants on because I wanted to dry-hump her to make our time last. I rubbed up against her naked body while we kissed and she moaned. We kissed and rubbed and did DATY again. She told me just how she liked it and I complied with her requests. She squirmed and said "just like that" when I got it right. I loved watching her squirm and moan while I licked her clit.

I noticed that a half hour had already passed but Sunshine didn't seem to mind that we were running over the agreed upon time. However, I thought that we needed to get started before she complained. (She seemed to be enjoying it too much to complain). I pulled off my underpants and put on a raincoat and we did 69 for a while. Then I got on top and pounded away for a while while kissing her luscious lips and listening to her moan in my ears. After pounding her for about 20 minutes I heard those dreaded words She said,"are you almost ready to cum". That blew the mood for me but I had already gotten more than my monies worth. I pulled out, took of the coat and had her lay next to me as I jacked off while she played with my balls, kissed me and rubbed her pussy on my leg. Then I blew my load.

This chick is so hot. I wish I could have f*ed her all day. She says that she will be in town for a couple of weeks. I got her number and I will definitely repeat.

When I got home I googled her phone number and I found her ads on Redbook and Backpage. In her ad she charges 140 HH and 220 FH. I got a real bargain for 100 FH (although it was supposed to be HH). She never complained and never asked for extra. I kept kissing her even after we got dressed. Her reviews on Redbook were through the roof. Everyone loved her.

Here is the link to her Redbook ad. The pictures attached are from her Backpage ad. The pictures do not do her justice. She is very beautiful but a little thick.

[url]http://classifieds.myredbook.com/classified.php?adid=169109[/url]

Baldy, I tried to reply to your message but your inbox is full. I'll try again later.

I know, weird title, but bear with me. There were these two BSW, not together, both wearing denim with pink tops. The shorter one had on a skirt, and she was cute. The taller one had on a pair of shorts that sculpted her great legs and butt. I had seen this girl before and always thought she was LE because of how she dressed and where she always stood. Today, she decided to get into the car when I stopped, so I guessed she wasn't LE after all. As we were driving to a well known notel on Atlantic, we had a conversation about it, and she said that lots of guys think she is a cop.

This is where it takes a turn for the weird, as we got to the notel, a sheriffs car pulled into its parking lot, so needless to say we didn't go there. When we swung around to try the one next door, she screamed something about cops, and as I went down the side street and stopped, she jumped out of the car and said to meet her at the notel and call her. Problem #1-she hadn't given me her phone number. I went around the block, and when I finally got back to the notel and entered the parking lot, she was leaning across the reception desk talking to the clerk. As I approached, she left and I went to get the room, thinking she would wait. Instead, she was gone, I was out $25 for the room. I needed to piss, so I went in and relieved myself. I then got into the car and drove down Alondra, where I saw her, so I figured no big deal, I will just pick her up again, and we still have the room. However, when I approached her she takes off running, yelling into her phone. She didn't say anything to me. I swing by her three more times, and the same thing happens.

Finally, I give up and go home $25 poorer and with a major case of blue balls. My questions are: 1) has anyone dated this girl? If so, is she worth the trouble, was the service any good, or should I just forget about her?

Is the beeyatch just crazy, or was she tweaking and got paranoid? Did the clerk at the notel tell her something about me, and if so, what, since I have NEVER mistreated a girl I have dated at that establishment. I await all comments and any information.

There was an article in the Times last year of a young WSW & 2 black guys being convicted on several charges for setting up and robbing Mongers. I always move over two lanes after doing a pick up, watch my 6 as I roll to MY spot, and make sure I can see her hands. I once dropped off a WSW who had her hand in her jacket. I figured she might be blind texting her pimp. She could have been giving her location as a precaution, as an ATF told me, or it could have been a set up. Either way, I didn't like it.

[QUOTE=Leverslit; 1210400]This happened to me almost 2 years ago on fig. It was early morning around 6am still dark out. I pick up one of my regulars and we proceed to the next street over. I got my pants down around my ankles and she is giving me a BJ. I bust a nut and we start to cleanup, she from what I remember rolls down the window and then the door slings open and some pinche SHVARTZA grab her purse, reaches in and turns off my car, starts talking shit about money whatever. I lay on the horn he backs off for a sec long enough for me to start the car and peel out.

I always lock my doors but I he must of got in when she through out the wipes. He was also yelling for one of his buddies to come help him but he never came. Also later I found a universal remote control in my car. I think he had that in his pocket pretending to have a gun. Anyway the ho lost her purse with the money.

I am fairly certain she was not involved.

Point is to always lock your car doors and drive far enough from the area.[/QUOTE]

Did a quick run of the lbb track today between 10-11 am. It was pretty dead there were a few BSW out but I wouldn't touch them with my worse enemies dick hopefully things get better.

I went down to check out this track and it's a joke, so many pigs and those little shopping centers with all the girls just parading around in groups of 9-12 (all ugly as fuck) and more pimps than actual girls standing about 10-15ft from the girls WTF. Who would bother with this?

There was a few attractive ones scattered around through out the blvd but it just seems like you are really likely to get caught by a cop at this track (as a few yesterday). They are parked in shopping centers looking at the girls and if you pick one up you are fucked. LB is really a horrible track and I think most girls like it because it's easy to come up one someone over there, maybe its due to the amount of pimps around they feel like they are hot shit.

Just could not believe how horrible this is and what a waste going there. On the other hand check my post on FIG thread and LA SW.

So what if the girl gets on her or text messages someone after you pick her up. Do you drop her off?

[QUOTE=BladeRunner556;1211173]There was an article in the Times last year of a young WSW & 2 black guys being convicted on several charges for setting up and robbing Mongers. I always move over two lanes after doing a pick up, watch my 6 as I roll to MY spot, and make sure I can see her hands. I once dropped off a WSW who had her hand in her jacket. I figured she might be blind texting her pimp. She could have been giving her location as a precaution, as an ATF told me, or it could have been a set up. Either way, I didn't like it.[/QUOTE]

Personally I like LBB, after all my ATF Kia works there. There have been many new girls working in an area that isn't really accessible, so in that I agree with you. The girls that are dateable usually don't work where these girls have been they work further up near the infamous Hub Motel.

I ran into the ROB Sasha by Izmirillian today. Wasn 't going to hit that, although those titties were looking really good.

The higher the temp gets the more SW's com out and play.

[QUOTE=MrJose;1217417]The higher the temp gets the more SW's com out and play.[/QUOTE]Good pics. The one in the purple dress looks tasty.

[QUOTE=MrJose;1217417]The higher the temp gets the more SW's com out and play.[/QUOTE]Hey Mr Jose.

Awesome pics. Was that early in the morning?

Cheers.

TM

[QUOTE=MrJose;1217417]The higher the temp gets the more SW's com out and play.[/QUOTE]Y'all are so lucky to have that kind of action.

[QUOTE=MrJose;1217417]The higher the temp gets the more SW's com out and play.[/QUOTE]Is that how you fellows have it in Cali. Cheeks, Cheeks & more Cheeks? I am calling the moving truck now! Pretty sweet action and in the middle of the damn day. These lazy bitches here are like vampires; they only want to come out late at night. I guess it helps with their appearance.

No most action is afternoon into early evening.

[QUOTE=TexasMonger; 1217610]Hey Mr Jose.

Awesome pics. Was that early in the morning?

Cheers,

TM[/QUOTE]

AnyBody that actually believes Long Beach Blvd sucks as a whole, is just simply Not familiar enough with the area to make that judgement.

[QUOTE=The Godsend;1217927]AnyBody that actually believes Long Beach Blvd sucks as a whole, is just simply Not familiar enough with the area to make that judgement.[/QUOTE]Couldn't agree with you more. I've met a ton of 8's and 9's and have never had any problems with this track.

[QUOTE=The Godsend;1217927]AnyBody that actually believes Long Beach Blvd sucks as a whole, is just simply Not familiar enough with the area to make that judgement.[/QUOTE]Some of the best looking, and best priced talent to be sure. You do however, have to be careful and patient. I would agree with him that the current crop of girls are in the wrong part of LBB to be chosen and dated.

I have had some of my best finds on LBB. Not near the fashion center though, more by rac, hub and that stretch. I agree about the swap meet area not being ideal to make a scoop, toms of people watching. But those back streets by rac and hub you can score. Western is also good, each spot has it's moments that's all.

Marlowe, have not seen Kia out lately? Also I went down the lbb track I think Thursday around 6pm and I saw a solid 25-30sw from hub to near the 105. Thick concentration by the swap meet, which I usually avoid. I saw 2 that were maybe 16yrs old, I stayed a good 100yards away from them. Be careful on those young looking ones guys, I steer clear of that unless I sure they are at least 18 or older.

Stay safe,

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[QUOTE=Marlowe; 1216794]Personally I like LBB, after all my ATF Kia works there. There have been many new girls working in an area that isn't really accessible, so in that I agree with you. The girls that are dateable usually don't work where these girls have been they work further up near the infamous Hub Motel.

I ran into the ROB Sasha by Izmirillian today. Wasn 't going to hit that, although those titties were looking really good.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Marlowe;1217987]Some of the best looking, and best priced talent to be sure. You do however, have to be careful and patient. I would agree with him that the current crop of girls are in the wrong part of LBB to be chosen and dated.[/QUOTE]I have many fond memories of PCH in Long Beach. I tapped some superstars there. Yes I nailed alot of skanks including two sisters that used to work PCH and MLK but you got to take the good with the bad.

[QUOTE=Alkalinedio; 1217988]I have had some of my best finds on LBB. Not near the fashion center though, more by rac, hub and that stretch. I agree about the swap meet area not being ideal to make a scoop, toms of people watching. But those back streets by rac and hub you can score. Western is also good, each spot has it's moments that's all.

Marlowe, have not seen Kia out lately? Also I went down the lbb track I think Thursday around 6pm and I saw a solid 25-30sw from hub to near the 105. Thick concentration by the swap meet, which I usually avoid. I saw 2 that were maybe 16yrs old, I stayed a good 100yards away from them. Be careful on those young looking ones guys, I steer clear of that unless I sure they are at least 18 or older.

Stay safe,

Ad[/QUOTE]AD, check your PM.

Haven't seen Kia out for a long time either. Don't have her digits either. But sooner or later she'll be out there. Unless she's finished college finally LOL.

It was pretty busy last nigh around midnight mostly all BSW and about 3 WSW but then I saw Coconut a Samoan SW but I didn't know thats what she was just thought she was an ASW maybe mixed and she was not all big she was average size with a descent rack I'd say a solid 8 She wanted. 5 for CBJ got her down to. 4 she did allright but a little bit of a rush but wanted to make sure she finished.