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[QUOTE=Freebie Bean]No matter what the circumstances, we need to treat these ladies with respect. And we certainly shouldn't sit in judgement of them...I don't think anyone here is an angel themselves.[/QUOTE]More likely spawn of Satan. Thinking about it, I'm probably leader in inducing the young student good girl types into their first giving it up for $$, goodies or tuition.

I am a bad boy! So I try not judge anyone's motives and especially not think myself better than anybody.

Maybe I'm worse. Who's worse the one with the addiction or the one that feeds it?

So cutting the girls some slack and concentrating on my own flaws seems to be the best direction.

[QUOTE=Lovely In Lace]I'm really impressed! I have peeked into these forums for a long time now and as a anonymous provider I have a great respect for some of the senior thread posters. There are some truly thoughtful gentlemen on here that I like to refer to as "The Three Wise Men" with that being said I salute you Doc. Ga. Dog And Freebie[/QUOTE]

Thank you ma'am, I don't believe I have had the pleasure. But you have peeked this Dawgs interest. I would love to know more and talk sometime. Fell free to Pm me if you don't want to post on public board.

Doc I am right with you, sitting here without out my halo and wings but I do have a good side as I believe you probably do too.

[QUOTE=Lovely In Lace]I'm really impressed! I have peeked into these forums for a long time now and as a anonymous provider I have a great respect for some of the senior thread posters. There are some truly thoughtful gentlemen on here that I like to refer to as "The Three Wise Men" with that being said I salute you Doc. Ga. Dog And Freebie[/QUOTE]As with the GaDog I might like to meet you too. PM me sometime.

No angel but I always try to leave things better in the wake of the speed boat that is my life.

[QUOTE=Dr Holiday]Sorry Chuck, that blanket harsh generalization way not right..maybe SW's down on the street I wouldn't know about there. However, should look at the post reminding you that they are still people..Dancer shot herself in front of her two children. Nobody has ever heard of her doing drugs. Never heard of her playing outside club. Nobody knows why. I knew her..sad.

If you practice becoming a human being yourself and remember they are people too...world will be a better place.

Think about it..Are we scum for using their addictions..preying on them..Heck yes we are??

Yep, some are addicted to drugs! You will find many more are single mothers and "addicted" to taking care of some kids. You will find that a number of them are just poor and "addicted" to college tuition trying to get the heck out(and usually with kids too). You will find that a large number of them came from seriously abusive backgrounds. This propelled them into a life of uneducated poverty..so they are "addicted" to things like food and rent. Hard to make enough money to support two kids on your own with no education because you ran away at 15 because (fill in the blank here____, dad, uncle, stepdad) was molesting you beating your mom and sister.

The one that gets me the most are the ones that are "addicted" to a user, looser boyfriend or husband. Looser boyfriend preys on them, abuses them etc. He keeps them in the life to support his bad habits (like not wanting to work or his drugs). This one amazes me but so common.

Last, there are a few "addicted" to sex..Rare and usually they are confused with a need for affection. Some are desperate for someone to care and not not sex. So they are easy prey for us bad males.

We prey on these addictions. Don't kid yourself we don't and we are somehow better than them.

Time to try growing a heart Chuck.[/QUOTE]
I assume you're not being hypocritical and you have already grown a heart Doc. I challenge you to practice what you preach then, and vow to never purchase affection again and instead take all the money you would have spent and donate it to programs to rehabilitate, educate, and provide medical and legal services, to these poor sex workers who are caught in a vicious cycle of drug addiction and being exploited by people like you and me. No wait, I forgot you're the only one whose prostitutes (yes escorts are prostitutes too, they're just 4 walls away from being a SW) and strippers never touched a drug. In fact I don't see how you've not been blinded by their shining halos! Give me a break, you're the only one I don't respect with your holier than though, stick your head in the sand attitude. You're part of the vicious cycle of preying on women in the depths of a hard to escape terrible life, just like I am.

FACT:
* Alcohol and drug addiction among all sex workers (street prostitutes, exotic dancers, and escorts) is widespread, with various studies of prostituted women in U.S. cities reporting addiction rates of 92 percent to 94 percent to 100 percent. In some instances, women seem to turn to prostitution to support their habit; in other instances, drug and alcohol addiction may follow the onset of prostitution, with women turning to drugs and alcohol to numb themselves in their encounters with clients.

[QUOTE=Chuck Roast]I assume you're not being hypocritical and you have already grown a heart Doc. I challenge you to practice what you preach then, and vow to never purchase affection again and instead take all the money you would have spent and donate it to programs to rehabilitate, educate, and provide medical and legal services, to these poor sex workers who are caught in a vicious cycle of drug addiction and being exploited by people like you and me. No wait, I forgot you're the only one whose prostitutes (yes escorts are prostitutes too, they're just 4 walls away from being a SW) and strippers never touched a drug. In fact I don't see how you've not been blinded by their shining halos! Give me a break, you're the only one I don't respect with your holier than though, stick your head in the sand attitude. You're part of the vicious cycle of preying on women in the depths of a hard to escape terrible life, just like I am.

FACT:
* Alcohol and drug addiction among all sex workers (street prostitutes, exotic dancers, and escorts) is widespread, with various studies of prostituted women in U.S. cities reporting addiction rates of 92 percent to 94 percent to 100 percent. In some instances, women seem to turn to prostitution to support their habit; in other instances, drug and alcohol addiction may follow the onset of prostitution, with women turning to drugs and alcohol to numb themselves in their encounters with clients.[/QUOTE]

Hey Chuck no offense but where are you getting you fact crap from. Is it maybe the byist reports put out by the news media. Because they always report factual stuff. And never take sides to make an issue seem worse than it is. Or reports released by LEO so they can justify not legalizing a victimless crime. Or maybe one sponsored by a bunch of goodie two shoes bible thumpers and hypocrites. It wouldn't be those kind of reports would it.

I agree what they all do SW, escort or any lady who does what they do for money is in the same category as far as industry and the court and laws eyes. But the real difference is in how they do business and handle themselves and what they offer. A world of difference between a SW and an escort in that respect. And as Doc said and myself no halo's here just guy who like our Jollies and having some fun. He never claimed not to be anything else. I mean a lot of guys in this hobby are addicted to sex. But I would rather that than alcohol and drugs. Because an over sexed person behind a wheel is a lot less likely to kill someone.

As for the ladies around here I know of at least 6 I see regularly and talk to on the phone and email just to chat that are nothing like your facts or claims. And they are all escorts not SW's. Yes most SW's are that is why it is so cheap for the need of a fast fix. All the Doc was saying is some of these ladies are good people and they should be treated with respect. The attitude you portrait in your words<and I think you are not really this way just the way it comes off, is that these ladies are scum and it doesn't matter how they are treated. That could really give some new guy with a abusive attitude the wrong idea about how to treat these girls. It is also the kind of attitude that gets the attention of LEO and the news groups and causes them to report stuff like you facts and how it is such a dangerouse business and should be cracked down on. We should try to avoid this kind of attention, monger and lady alike.

Now with that , let me say I am not critizing just observing and making a statement. I am not being personal or trying to start drama because God knows I hate that. So please don't take it that way. I am also not critizing where one likes to shop because it is, after all a matter of ones taste and budget and likes. To each his own you know. So lets just chalk this one up to a good discussion and all be friends.

Happy Hunting

P.S. Sorry for the long diatribe I hate it as much as you all probably do.

[QUOTE=Dr Holiday]As with the GaDog I might like to meet you too. PM me sometime.

No angel but I always try to leave things better in the wake of the speed boat that is my life.[/QUOTE]

I will second Doc's Thanx by the way I don't think I did earlier.

I notice all the SW & escort reports seem to concern Knoxville. Any pointers to Maryville/Lenoir City/Loudon activity?

PM is fine. Or ignore me!

Thanks for any information.

[QUOTE=Ga Dogfan]Hey Chuck no offense but where are you getting you fact crap from. Is it maybe the byist reports put out by the news media. Because they always report factual stuff. And never take sides to make an issue seem worse than it is. Or reports released by LEO so they can justify not legalizing a victimless crime. Or maybe one sponsored by a bunch of goodie two shoes bible thumpers and hypocrites. It wouldn't be those kind of reports would it.

I agree what they all do SW, escort or any lady who does what they do for money is in the same category as far as industry and the court and laws eyes. But the real difference is in how they do business and handle themselves and what they offer. A world of difference between a SW and an escort in that respect. And as Doc said and myself no halo's here just guy who like our Jollies and having some fun. He never claimed not to be anything else. I mean a lot of guys in this hobby are addicted to sex. But I would rather that than alcohol and drugs. Because an over sexed person behind a wheel is a lot less likely to kill someone.

As for the ladies around here I know of at least 6 I see regularly and talk to on the phone and email just to chat that are nothing like your facts or claims. And they are all escorts not SW's. Yes most SW's are that is why it is so cheap for the need of a fast fix. All the Doc was saying is some of these ladies are good people and they should be treated with respect. The attitude you portrait in your words<and I think you are not really this way just the way it comes off, is that these ladies are scum and it doesn't matter how they are treated. That could really give some new guy with a abusive attitude the wrong idea about how to treat these girls. It is also the kind of attitude that gets the attention of LEO and the news groups and causes them to report stuff like you facts and how it is such a dangerouse business and should be cracked down on. We should try to avoid this kind of attention, monger and lady alike.

Now with that , let me say I am not critizing just observing and making a statement. I am not being personal or trying to start drama because God knows I hate that. So please don't take it that way. I am also not critizing where one likes to shop because it is, after all a matter of ones taste and budget and likes. To each his own you know. So lets just chalk this one up to a good discussion and all be friends.

Happy Hunting

P.S. Sorry for the long diatribe I hate it as much as you all probably do.[/QUOTE]We should give up. Some always want to take something so hard. Rather than a good discussion.

Thought I did include myself as part of the problem in multiple posts..Oh well... I'm back to being part of the problem.

[QUOTE=Chuck Roast]I assume you're not being hypocritical and you have already grown a heart Doc. I challenge you to practice what you preach then, and vow to never purchase affection again and instead take all the money you would have spent and donate it to programs to rehabilitate, educate, and provide medical and legal services, to these poor sex workers who are caught in a vicious cycle of drug addiction and being exploited by people like you and me. No wait, I forgot you're the only one whose prostitutes (yes escorts are prostitutes too, they're just 4 walls away from being a SW) and strippers never touched a drug. In fact I don't see how you've not been blinded by their shining halos! Give me a break, you're the only one I don't respect with your holier than though, stick your head in the sand attitude. You're part of the vicious cycle of preying on women in the depths of a hard to escape terrible life, just like I am.

FACT:

* Alcohol and drug addiction among all sex workers (street prostitutes, exotic dancers, and escorts) is widespread, with various studies of prostituted women in U.S. cities reporting addiction rates of 92 percent to 94 percent to 100 percent. In some instances, women seem to turn to prostitution to support their habit; in other instances, drug and alcohol addiction may follow the onset of prostitution, with women turning to drugs and alcohol to numb themselves in their encounters with clients.[/QUOTE]Just trying for a little civilized discussion. Not a personal attack.

Maybe you should of read a little closer.

1. I said I WAS part of the problem and we were all preying on them..Was the major thrust of my argument. We prey on their addictions whatever they are.

2. Agreed with you that drugs are part of the problem but that there are other problems too. I'm definitely not blinded by any halos and especially note I don't have one. But I do know lots that haven't touched a drug in their life. I know others (including dancers) drugged out of their minds. Know a number that can't dance with out drugs or drunk. See Chuck we really aren't in disagreement.

But I know others that aren't too...

3. Suggested that none of us (including ME) not any better than them.

So maybe all of us should cut the girls some slack on judging them summarizes the thrust of my arguments.

Pigeon holing a complex problem in one overly simplistic solution (drugs or what ever) (like our authorities do in the reports you quote) doesn't help matters.

I'm going back to being part of the problem.

PS: Considering my line of work, I'd say alcohol and drug addiction in the general populace is way up there too.

Have a nice day! Enuf of this..

[QUOTE=Voldigicam]I notice all the SW & escort reports seem to concern Knoxville. Any pointers to Maryville/Lenoir City/Loudon activity?

PM is fine. Or ignore me!

Thanks for any information.[/QUOTE]

I don't know of any but that doesn't mean they aren't there.

[QUOTE=Voldigicam]I notice all the SW & escort reports seem to concern Knoxville. Any pointers to Maryville/Lenoir City/Loudon activity?

PM is fine. Or ignore me!

Thanks for any information.[/QUOTE]I haven't heard of much in these regions either. Occasionally I will see ads on CL, but nothing that seems reliable. There are ads for massage in the therapeutic section of CL that seem shady to me, but I have never checked into them as they are somewhat out of my way.

I think its about time they legalize the hobby, look at Arizona. You would eliminate alot of the problems with diseases, since they could make testing available to providers at a lower price. The amount of taxpayer money wasted on prosecution is just ridiculous. I think we should gather and make our policy makers push for a bill to legalize prostitution and regulate it.

Using other european countries as a model I think it would be feasible and also economically prudent. It would bring alot of revenue and who knows maybe more tourism into our economy.

What do you think?

Anyone on here still actually pick up SW's or what? I took a little cruise last week around the usual areas, Magnolia, East Fifth, Central and Broadway and there was NOTHING and NO ONE out. Very little LE even. Several decent looking chicks hanging out in front of the Salvation Army on Broadway but they weren't working. Lazy broads get free meals and a bed from the SA so they don't have to work I guess. So after coming up empty in the usual spots I decided to go down Woodland through Western Heights on the off chance there would be some project chick out working. BINGO! If you follow Woodland all the way through to the back side of Western Heights there's a road that runs across there and I immediately found a nice skinny little junkie out looking to "get well". Went to her apt just a couple blocks away and had a nice, unrushed, well done H&H for. 5. She was so good I went back the next day for seconds. After I picked her up the first time, while we were going around the block to get back to her apt I saw at least two or three other chicks out walking. Looks like I need to spend more time back there.

Could be a SW goldmine!

I have noticed in Nashville alot of ladies post on here and ladies in Memphis and other areas as well. How come they don't here? Just Lack of knowledge about the site or does it cost for the ladies to advertise here? It seems if we could get more of the legit ones to post here we could cut out alot of the worries of cl. Because we can vouch for the real ones. I have thought about mentioning it to the ladies I know possibly and seeing if we can get some interest here and filter out alot of the juck ads.

What do you all think?

[QUOTE=Dr Holiday]Just trying for a little civilized discussion. Not a personal attack.

Maybe you should of read a little closer.

1. I said I WAS part of the problem and we were all preying on them..Was the major thrust of my argument. We prey on their addictions whatever they are.

2. Agreed with you that drugs are part of the problem but that there are other problems too. I'm definitely not blinded by any halos and especially note I don't have one. But I do know lots that haven't touched a drug in their life. I know others (including dancers) drugged out of their minds. Know a number that can't dance with out drugs or drunk. See Chuck we really aren't in disagreement.

But I know others that aren't too...

3. Suggested that none of us (including ME) not any better than them.

So maybe all of us should cut the girls some slack on judging them summarizes the thrust of my arguments.

Pigeon holing a complex problem in one overly simplistic solution (drugs or what ever) (like our authorities do in the reports you quote) doesn't help matters.

I'm going back to being part of the problem.

PS: Considering my line of work, I'd say alcohol and drug addiction in the general populace is way up there too.

Have a nice day! Enuf of this..[/QUOTE]
I'm not mad at you buddy, we were just having a healthy exchange of opinions IMO. Boy TiberiusJones said a mouthful. If the sex trade were legalized, a lot of a provider's potential problems would be tremendously reduced and the economy would benefit. And we customers wouldn't have to feel as much guilt or fear of jail. At the bunny ranch for instance, the girls pay income taxes, have access to health care, rehab if they need it, a retirement plan, std control, drug testing, and the best of all free will to come and go as they please. They can work for just a few months and make enough to go to school or raise their kids for the rest of the year. They choose it instead of it choosing them. We're just dreaming though, will never happen.

I may not be your typical escort because I keep financial records and pay taxes on my additional income. I keep receipts and use deductions such as toys, condoms, gas for out call and even hotel and food bills. While I never lie I do tend to get creative with labeling some of the items when filing.

I also have access to health care and am tested MONTHLY with full panels. Now, I do have to go to two different places to have this done and while it is annoying, I believe it's necessary. I think I'm more careful now and tested more frequently than when I was just dating socially in college and in my 20's.

I don't drug test because I don't use, but that's just me. I would have no problem accepting the requirements of mandatory drug testing if legalized.

I have chosen my path it has not chosen me. The free will to come and go as I please is defiantly a blessing more than what you would believe.

BEFORE I was even in this line, I'd always had a very high sex drive and was questioned in my home regarding my multiple male visitors. They proceeded to question me and my guest about our activities and relationship. You really should have seen the expression on the officers faces when they asked what my relationship with my guest was and I told them for lack of a better term, he was a "fuck buddy". Well, Miss do you have more than one in your words "fuck buddy"? I said yes, as a matter of fact I have several, why? Well, are you aware this gentleman is married? Yep, what difference does that make to you? OMG it was PRICELESS!

The board does not charge for us to post and I really think it's lack of knowledge that more girls don't. BUT, on the other hand, with there NOT being a charge you may end up with a lot of the riff raff from CL and then you might be better off with them not knowing. Guess it's a catch 22. I'll post for a little while and then I'll pull it, but then I'm on other sites as well.

Anyway, on another note, some of us will gladly go to Maryville, LC and Loudon on out call. There is normally an additional small travel fee. But, if you see someone you like and she advertises out call don't be shy and just ask. I will speak for myself but I have even traveled as far as Chattanooga and just made a day of it--shopping and enjoying another city for the visit.

[QUOTE=Chuck Roast]I'm not mad at you buddy, we were just having a healthy exchange of opinions IMO. Boy TiberiusJones said a mouthful. If the sex trade were legalized, a lot of a provider's potential problems would be tremendously reduced and the economy would benefit. And we customers wouldn't have to feel as much guilt or fear of jail. At the bunny ranch for instance, the girls pay income taxes, have access to health care, rehab if they need it, a retirement plan, std control, drug testing, and the best of all free will to come and go as they please. They can work for just a few months and make enough to go to school or raise their kids for the rest of the year. They choose it instead of it choosing them. We're just dreaming though, will never happen.[/QUOTE]Agree with you here too. Legalization would toss the problems. However, agree too.

Will never happen.

[QUOTE=Monger Jake]Had a great dream recently. I had this dream that I was in the Western Heights area and ran into a 5'9" blonde beauty that went by "L". Her name is Elizabeth. A solid 9 on a SW scale and a 7 on your average scale. 5'9" VERY clean, soft skin, long legs, small boobs (b-cup), shaved w/a landing strip. Started in the vehicle BBBJ for. 2, I wasn't able to finish so I suggested going to my place and I contributed an extra. 6 for another BBBJ followed by FS. Absolutely no rushing on her part at all. As a matter of fact, she mentioned several times that she wanted to take her time since there was no rush. This was totally appreciated. One quirk about her though, she seems to be a few french fries short of a happy meal if you know what I mean. For the effort I received for the contribution I made I will absolutely be seeing her again! One of the better dreams I've had in Knoxville.

Knowing how uncle LEO has his sights set on stopping us hobbiests I ask that only Senior Members PM for details.

Happy hunting![/QUOTE]

Jake,

I found WH finally and actually me "Elle." She first told me her name was "Ella." I told her I had heard of "L" and she laughed and said her name is Elle and spelled it. She's a solid 7. Very sweet girl. Took me to her friend "April's" place cause it was broad daylight and she didn't want to park. Place was fine for what I needed. Thanks. She really is nice and accommodating.

I also met another gal "April" near Mag. White, blonde, with very pale gray/green eyes. Had a nice car BBBJ and arranged to meet her later for more. Turned out to be a cash & dash, but this gal is cute and sort of exotic looking for a wsw in the area.

BigBaby/Shannon was out on Mag too. She's looking more thuggish all the time but her confident strut and those big ol' fake titties still do it for me a little bit. If she just didn't talk so much or had a sweet disposition like Elle.

Of course neither one had digits. All in all, it was a very good day in Kville for a change.

Has anyone ever dreamed of Lynn?

I had a weird dream that I was Knoxville last night and once again had lots of street action to choose from. There's this one house in one of the big projects where at least 4 smokin hot young sw's were hanging out on the porch, all looked about 20-25 years old, all 8's and 9's sw scale. They must work shifts standing out on the sidewalk out front of the house because there was a different one every time I passed by. And wouldn't you know it, there was a damn lone LE with somebody pulled over for like 30 minutes within full view. I figured out through recon that it wasn't a sting or anything, just a routine traffic stop. But I wasn't brave enough to swoop in and pick one up. Knowing my luck LE would get through with his traffic stop right when a sw was getting in my car. I didn't get a chance as right about that time there was a tornado warning and I guess it chased everybody inside, including me.

When the danger had passed a little later I went to another part of town named after a flower, and quickly saw a couple of wsw's. One cute little blonde and one not so much cute older blonde. But they were out in the open so I had to do a quick sweep and then they were gone when I came back around. Then one crossed in front of me at a redlight perhaps looking for her herd, a downright scary very short haired bsw built like a tank with tree trunk thighs in bike shorts and Dolly P tits. Perhaps it was Mac's BigBaby/Shannon.

Right after that I found an easy safe pickup walking down a side street. As sometimes happens in dreams, I don't remember her name. But she had a pretty face, nice body, but a little older, maybe very late 30's, bringing her down to about a 6.5 on the sw scale. Long straight black hair, like a native american. She seemed pretty clear headed and spoke with a great deal of intelligence. Maybe she has just fallen on some hard times, she did mention that just a while back she had lost her $12/hr job where she had worked at for several years. And she was just emerging from some recent legal trouble. I hope things turn around for her.

Anyway, I set her up with a generous donation in exchange for a car BBBJ, or should I say BBGJ, because this is where it gets WEIRD. Before she started, lo and behold, out came her FALSE TEETH! Top and bottom! She said it's her special little trick. Now I had never had a gum job before, but I tell you, there's nothing like it. It's like two sets of lips doing the deed! Most of the time anybody who is going to be toothless I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole for other reasons before I even get introduced to the tooth area, but this woman was pretty cool and otherwise clean and nice looking. I can say for sure it was a pretty unique exeperience and I'm lucky to have such vivid dreams. Ambien anyone?

I'd have to say I havent tried too many providers. But I will say this.

Aimee is awesome and so is Christina. Well worth the effort for both.

They are also good friends to have and nice to carry on convos with.

I have never tried Mickey or others, honestly the quality I have gotten plus the safety factor of these two make it all worth while.

So ridiculous. Read the public comments though, some are hilarious like the guy who said thank you KPD for getting the violent victimless offenders off the streets. And the rest seem to be unanimously in favor of decriminalization of prostitution. One person said "why is it illegal to sell something that you can give away without breaking the law?" Wise words indeed.

[url]http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/apr/12/knoxville-police-eight-arrested-prostitution-sting/[/url]

[QUOTE=Chuck Roast]So ridiculous. Read the public comments though, some are hilarious like the guy who said thank you KPD for getting the violent victimless offenders off the streets. And the rest seem to be unanimously in favor of decriminalization of prostitution. One person said "why is it illegal to sell something that you can give away without breaking the law?" Wise words indeed.

[url]http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/apr/12/knoxville-police-eight-arrested-prostitution-sting/[/url][/QUOTE]Got 11 more guys with the decoy over the weekend.. Be careful out there on the east side..seems to be where they are at.

It's getting personal on Craigslist! Someone slapped Christina with being cheap and wornout (I do not agree at all, personally...I think Christina is damn hot!). Christina fired back saying she knew who it was and they were in trouble for using her copyrighted photo.

Why can't everyone just get along?

[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1119894898.html[/url]

[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1120102160.htmlong?[/url]

[QUOTE=Freebie Bean]It's getting personal on Craigslist! Someone slapped Christina with being cheap and wornout (I do not agree at all, personally...I think Christina is damn hot!). Christina fired back saying she knew who it was and they were in trouble for using her copyrighted photo.

Why can't everyone just get along?

[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1119894898.html[/url]

[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1120102160.htmlong?[/url][/QUOTE]

I agree with you Freebie. And I know not everyone on here uses cl but a lot do and the chick/or guy(but wording seems like another provider) who posted the sh!t about Christina insulted a lot of us. And if it is who has been taking the cheap shots in her ads the last week then I think we need to cut her off a few weeks(even though I already am), to teach her how much she needs us, "the cheap clientele". I mean it is bad enough the stuff stings and crap bring down on the business but then to have one of the ladies do it is even worse. Why does she or he, whoever the poster is care what others charge. I personally like little Christina a lot too and have never had a bad dream with her. That's why I usually tip her more than she asks.

Again thats my 2 cents!

[QUOTE=Ga Dogfan]I agree with you Freebie. And I know not everyone on here uses cl but a lot do and the chick/or guy(but wording seems like another provider) who posted the sh!t about Christina insulted a lot of us. And if it is who has been taking the cheap shots in her ads the last week then I think we need to cut her off a few weeks(even though I already am), to teach her how much she needs us, "the cheap clientele". I mean it is bad enough the stuff stings and crap bring down on the business but then to have one of the ladies do it is even worse. Why does she or he, whoever the poster is care what others charge. I personally like little Christina a lot too and have never had a bad dream with her. That's why I usually tip her more than she asks.

Again thats my 2 cents![/QUOTE]Good 2 cents as is Freebie's comments.

CL now looks like some of the stuff that has happened on other boards.

I'm not too surprised. Girls tell me business is way down. Desperation starts this stuff. This should be fun but loss of business can create serious problems. Need to be avoided and kept far from here.

The one that started it put a serious insult on lots of people. Uncalled for..Got enough problems with increased LE prowling around.

[QUOTE=Ga Dogfan]I agree with you Freebie. And I know not everyone on here uses cl but a lot do and the chick/or guy(but wording seems like another provider) who posted the sh!t about Christina insulted a lot of us. And if it is who has been taking the cheap shots in her ads the last week then I think we need to cut her off a few weeks(even though I already am), to teach her how much she needs us, "the cheap clientele". I mean it is bad enough the stuff stings and crap bring down on the business but then to have one of the ladies do it is even worse. Why does she or he, whoever the poster is care what others charge. I personally like little Christina a lot too and have never had a bad dream with her. That's why I usually tip her more than she asks.

Again thats my 2 cents![/QUOTE]Well as a provider I could really care less what another provider charges because I only ask for what suites me and what suites them maybe different depending on their lifestyle. If you don't live outside your means "wich would be real stupid in these times". Then there is no need to be greedy. I sympathize with the gents that like to dream but can't come up with resources because times are tough. But they are tough for everyone. And without sounding like a real "B" my donations have not budged for two reasons. I'm not raising just because there is a slow down of activity or trying to capitalize or make up the loss on a fortunate client and I'm not dropping because self worth didn't go to hell just because the economy has. I give everyone who sees me the same respect and treatment and even though its not all about the money and some regs that I consider friends can't dream right now cutting a break would mean id have too everytime a alternator or starter went out on their car. Friends and buisness hmmm. A fine line.

I do not mingle, chat, or even check references with other providers. I have nothing against the other providers. I just wish to stay to my self and keep myself and clients discrete. I never talk bad about other providers and if asked honestly I tell clents I do not know any of the girls that way I'm not tied in or responsible for any unpleasent visits or any shady or wrong doings that one may have experienced or thought they have experienced. I know some providers may view me as stuck up when their friendly lunch invitations have gone ignored. But its nothing personal. Its just the way I like to do it. My success is not based on what others do only what I do. So what they do does not matter to me. I hope everyone stays safe has fun and benefits from their journies. And. For the record I do not have any addictions or past life drama. I don't consider my self as being preyed on or preying on others. I consider it mutually beneficial. Yes I'm punching holes in the sky and living my life because I love myself. I think of it as being a physical therapist or some cases a phsycologist. What ever makes that person feel better for that one hour of escape so they can love theirself as well.

[QUOTE=Chuck Roast]So ridiculous. Read the public comments though, some are hilarious like the guy who said thank you KPD for getting the violent victimless offenders off the streets. And the rest seem to be unanimously in favor of decriminalization of prostitution. One person said "why is it illegal to sell something that you can give away without breaking the law?" Wise words indeed.

[url]http://www.knoxnews.com/news/2009/apr/12/knoxville-police-eight-arrested-prostitution-sting/[/url][/QUOTE]
I think Aggravated = HIV Positive becareful

I totally missed the drama. I don't check the CL board for one day and I completely missed it. O well, I should probably be glad I did miss it. I can't comment or wonder about something I don't know about.

I just think it's petty for girls to trash talk like that. I was never one for drama in high school or college and I guess it has defiantly carried over into my adult life. Life is way to short and there are too many things that I want to enjoy that I don't feel the need to belittle or trash someone else. I'm a big believer that what goes around will come around, kinda the "pay it forward" mentality.

Anyway, for those who know me, I am still around but don't post a lot. For those of you that I haven't met yet, send me a pm and I would love to still make new friends.

Any members know anything about this Miss April?

[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1121761824.html[/url]

Thought about trying it out if anything good is said.

Also Lacey here, she looks ok. Feel free to PM me.

[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1121979237.html[/url]

I am off the next 2 days and thought it might be nice to have some fun at least once maybe twice. Would love to know more about Lovely in Lace on here if she would PM me. Hopefully will have some good dreams to report if things work out.

Noticed these two popped up today and thought they look a little TGTBT but hey if someone know anything let me know. Thanks in Advance.
[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1122292606.html[/url]
[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1122244467.html[/url]

Happy Hunting

I've not been on here before. Mostly I just read and listen to what others have to say and keep up with the business. Same with CL, I write a few good reviews to help some people if I think they deserve it. I realize that we are all trying to find what we want on the one hand or make a living on the other and I try to live and let live, but sometimes you have to speak out.

First, let everyone consider that no one said ALL of Christina's clients were cheap nor that ALL were lowlifes. What was said was that cutting prices low encourages a lower class clientele, which we all know is true. If you charge $50 then you'll get a $50 level client. I personally don't want to visit a low price provider simply because of this fact, but some may feel differently. To each his own. As Lovely in Lace stated, maintaining your price shows self respect, and I would also say shows respect to your customers (since we aren't necessarily looking for cheapest because we all know what that means), and shows respect to the other providers.

Brittany did not write the CL reviews about Christina. Brittany was merely the victim and didn't know anything about what was going on until it was over. Here is the story: I write ads for ladies on CL. I have written ads for ladies in Nashville, San Antonio, Myrtle Beach, Knoxville and other places and my ads are tasteful and distinctive. I record when each is written and who it is written for so that no lady ever uses anothers ad. Not long ago Brittany asked me to write an ad for her Client Appreciation Day. I wrote one that mentioned that "cheaper does not mean better" and emailed it to Brittany but then noticed that before Brittany had posted it, Christina had already posted an ad answering it. That was strange.

Later Brittany asked me to write her some more ads and I did and emailed them to her but she never got them. I emailed and asked if she had received them and never got an answer. One of those ads showed up Monday posted by Christina. I can prove it was the same ad with some changes by Christina. The only way Christina could have posted that ad was to have used a password of Brittany's that she knew from when they were friends and went into Brittany's mailbox, stole them, and deleted the evidence. This is despicable; that one provider would steal from and backstab another like this. I wonder how many of Brittany's other emails from customers or whatever have been prowled through and deleted.

Anyway, that is what happened and triggered my angry CL response and after Christina threatened to go to CL support over her "copyrighted photos" I responded with the comment about stealing and plagiarizing ads. Today I called Brittany and advised her to change her passwords. Right or wrong on my part, that is the story.

End of drama.

Noticed these two popped up today and thought they look a little TGTBT but hey if someone know anything let me know. Thanks in Advance.

[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1122292606.html[/url]
[url]http://knoxville.craigslist.org/ers/1122244467.html[/url]

Happy Hunting[/QUOTE]Checked these two out. I like looks of the blond. Real from Atlanta it seems. Lots of reviews. Poor reviews IMO. They say the two are gorgeous. But comments like "just laid there". "definitely not GFE".

Seems a fast one pop and out types. And not enthused (you know like being married). Not worth the risk of an incall for me but others might think different.

I have my doubts about the Lacey picture. Would be glad to know too if this is TBTBT.

Anybody know about April? Dixie on other sites. Pic doesn't seem to match the description and number goes to a service I think. If the pic matched she would be interesting.

Funny thing happened today. I checked my email and had a response to my email from a day before that said I and any of Christina's clients names get found out and Le would be called on me. Lol So here is the situation.

Being me amd trying to keep drama down emailed Christina and the other poster of the catfight that that kind of sh/t was best handled off board since the business didn't need the negative attention. Well it seemed to work and all was gone. Well here is what I said to the unknown poster. I am not sure if you are a client of a lady or another lady but I think you should rethink your post. I f you are a lady it is wrong to call the clients where you advertise cheap. It is not only rude but a bad busness idea and if you are Brittany then people will figure this out due to your other posts. And I for one will not be back. However if you are a client for another lady you should let them work it out and not be a drama starter. Not to mention you only know part of the situation and it is wrong to attack just for the sake of you were asked to. If that be the case. So lets not add attention to the hobby and help leo and the news types out.

That is all I said in my mail. Not rude or threatening just truth. Well today I got an email calling me names cursing me and other of Christinas clients and threats. Now I won't usually get involved in this sh!t but when you start threatening me and other mongers just because you don't like who they see with threats of leo that crosses a line. All I said was work it out in private and not to insult the clientele you advertise for basically.

Well to get this response I think said lady if it is her needs to apologize to the community and then leave if she is making such threats or a guy she knows is doing it she needs to fix this and get him under control. That is a serious thing in this hobby. And I know she has made mistakes on here from what I read in past reports but Christina does not deserve have her clientele threatened either or possibly herself. My 2 cents.

[QUOTE=Tony Greg]Anyway, that is what happened and triggered my angry CL response and after Christina threatened to go to CL support over her "copyrighted photos" I responded with the comment about stealing and plagiarizing ads. Today I called Brittany and advised her to change her passwords. Right or wrong on my part, that is the story.

End of drama.[/QUOTE]

Then you are the person who responded threatening to my email and IMHO make you an unwelcome addition to the community. No matter what goes on between the ladies it should stay there. You had no reason to get involved and yes you did imply cheap clientele. And as you recall my first email to you before it all got out of hand that day, was that you were insulting people with such remarks. And as I said in the first email I have paid various prices for ladies and it isn't price it is quality. So what if a lady runs a birthday special and knocks some off for a few days. Why do you care do you have a stake in what one of the ladies is making. Might seem that way to some. I don't know about others but I have paid $.25 to her every time I see her since our first meeting 4 or 5 months back. Who cares if one got in another's email or not. If Brittany gave out a password to someone that's her own damn fault. Its not right but its not anyone else's business but there's. It is all she said/she said sh!t. Get a life dude.

As for the threats, anytime you threaten to bring LE into this world it makes you and anything you say useless and someone nobody gives a damn about. I do appreciate you admitting to the post though and that you are affiliated with Brittany though, because know people knows how she and her friends do things. I am sorry if you write her post and help her you mean to say she wasn't involved. I highly doubt that. Your scum and, I had not had no personal problem with her till now, she isn't much better. I have had good and not so great visits with her but I had no personal feelings about her as a person. I hope others on the board feel the same way and you and your friend just fade away. I hate dram and drama queens like you and her and have no use for you or her or what you say. I am sure you will have your retorts and comments and of course the truth won't be admitted by the likes of you but I think my standing on here will speak for its self. So this is the last I will have to say and there will be no back and forth crap. So take your sorry ass and drama somewhere else. You all might fit in on bigd*****.net they always like drama.

I apologize to the board if drama has spread here over my attempt to play peacemaker and stop drama on cl. Goes to show you it doesn't always pay to be nice or do the right thing. I just thought since I was able to help Amber from Nashville get the drama off cl by emailing the guy I could help here. Guess lightening doesn't always strike twice. Again I apologize.

My 2 Cents and Happy Hunting.

[QUOTE=Dr Holiday]But comments like "just laid there". "definitely not GFE".

Seems a fast one pop and out types. And not enthused (you know like being married)

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LMAO thanks Doc I needed a good laugh. Dream Report on escort side.

Was in need of a new hairstylist. Does anyone know of any attractive sexy girls cuttin hair in the knox area PM me. I want some thats usually wearin somethin sexy and his flirty.

Thanks guys

[QUOTE=Ga Dogfan]Then you are the person who responded threatening to my email and IMHO make you an unwelcome addition to the community.

I don't know who it was you emailed with your 'peacemaking efforts', but it wasn't me. I neither received nor replied to any email from anyone about this situation. Neither did I curse and threaten with LE or anything else. Either you emailed the wrong person or you are making up some outrageous lie for who knows what reason. Let me say it again just to make sure it is understood, I did NOT curse or threaten you or any one else.

Personally, I don't care whether I have "Ga Dogfan's" all important welcome to this board. Your welcome or lack of it means nothing to me. I only got on here to tell the truth about what happened, which I did.

So to answer your ranting, nearly unintelligible post (which is the only response I have seen from you), I did not 'imply' cheap clientele, I explicitly said it. What I did NOT say was that ALL of her clientele were cheap. So first of all, let's not say I implied something that I never implied. And let's please read what I DID say so that you can then answer what was actually said.

Secondly, it was obviously not just between two ladies but also involved me, since an ad that I had written and given to ONE of the ladies was stolen out of her mailbox and then used by the other lady as if it was original with her. Did you not READ what I said in my first post? Now it may be your "humble" opinion that it should have been kept off CL, I'm not arguing that, but in my "humble" opinion if one lady is going into another's mail to hurt the second lady's business that should be denounced. You seem to be very specific in what you care about, for some reason. You don't care that Christina may have hurt Brittany's business, but you will "assume" that Brittany has hurt Christina's and get on here mouthing off on things you know nothing about. I think it's wrong for one provider to hurt another provider while you seem to think it's ok as long as it's not made public. You say it's all 'she said/she said' but you're willing to jump on one she's side and condemn the other without knowing anything. You seem to have a personal agenda in this. Are you listening to yourself?

As I said and say for the third time, I don't know what you may or may not have said in your emails that you thought you sent to me. I did not get any emails from you and did not answer you in any of my emails. I did not try to justify anything I said on CL, although I think that what I said has truth to it. As I clearly said, "Right or wrong on my part, that is the story. " Maybe you should have read what I wrote or, if you read it, understood it. Unlike your non-punctuated ranting and raving, I write clearly.

Now, back to your assumptions. I did not say I was affiliated with Brittany, you assumed that. I said that I had written 3 ads for her 2 of which were stolen out of her mailbox. I have never seen Brittany and had never talked to her until I called her to tell her to change her passwords. You came up with this idiotic sentence, "I do appreciate you admitting to the post though and that you are affiliated with Brittany though, because know people knows how she and her friends do things" Are you capable of thinking at all? I DID admit to the post, I'm glad you're at least capable of intellectually realizing that. You are ASSUMING that I have a personal interest in lying to cover something you ASSUME she did. And then, based on this idiotic assumption, you conclude that this is how Brittany and her friends "do things". If you're going to make an accusation, at least have something other than jumping to stupid conclusions and assumptions to base your accusations on. It sounds to me (in my humble opinion) that you have something VERY personal against Brittany and you have been willing to take one person's side against the other without having a clue what's going on. You have misread, misunderstood, misapprehended everything that has been said and now think you are entitled to pronounce honest people liars and scum and announce your hatred for them and think people should listen to your driveling imbecility just because of your "standing" on this board. I would hope that there are some people on this board that are capable of rational thought and would take into consideration what has been said and then come to a sensible decision before they blast off into your kind of idiocy.

I have no doubt that there will be no back and forth crap, as you said. You don't have a clue about what has happened and yet feel yourself qualified to be the judge in this matter. You don't have a single fact, only a bunch of half-baked ASSumptions and feel yourself able to call others lying scum. You don't know me personally, you have no reason to show such animosity toward either me or Brittany, you have nothing to express here except irrational feelings, and yet when I come on this board and simply tell the truth to clear someone's name that wasn't to blame, you seem to think you have the right to bad mouth us both and that you have the authority to tell us to clear our sorry asses out. What an idiot.

Let me say again for the slow minded. Brittany was the victim in this and was unaware until it was over. I have not made excuses for myself in any of this but have simply told the truth about what happened, why I expressed my opinion on some things, and brought some things to light. I can prove my facts, defend my opinions and don't care what an ignorant third party has to say. It's funny that you think you have a right to express your opinions which are based on nothing but your ignorance and assumptions. And yet you want to deny me my right to express my facts and opinions.

What an idiot.

[QUOTE]LMAO thanks Doc I needed a good laugh. Dream Report on escort side.[/QUOTE]Its been getting too serious around here.

In a cooler head this morning, I want to apologize for calling you an idiot and questioning your intelligence in my last post. I realize your were just angry because you thought I had sent you cursing and threatening emails, which, once again I say that I did not.

You sent out an email (but not to me) trying to be conciliatory and got an angry response. I posted what I knew to be the truth to try to settle this and also got an angry response. In my last post, I reacted the same way you had.

I apologize for saying bad things about you personally. The rest of my post still stands.