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I'll be coming to the city in November.
Will Borobudur on my list of places too visit.
[QUOTE=HolmesJr][url]http://www.borobudursf.com/[/url]
This place is suppose to have the famous ristafel. It's a like a sample of eveythng.
I believe there is another Indonesian place a couple buidlings down as well. Tasty food! And a Heineken to wash it down.[/QUOTE]
You warned me but I still wasn't prepared. I've been looking forward to this for a long time and was not disappointed. I didn't evev haggle over price. Massge, tea, multiple positions, and an hour and a half later this was a happy boy. I miss AMP's since they closed them in columbus oh. I envy you locals!
[QUOTE=Dads Extra Fun]You warned me but I still wasn't prepared. I've been looking forward to this for a long time and was not disappointed. I didn't evev haggle over price. Massge, tea, multiple positions, and an hour and a half later this was a happy boy. I miss AMP's since they closed them in columbus oh. I envy you locals![/QUOTE]According to a reliable source, Tina of Nikki's fame has returned part time to Nikki to raised travel funds for her upcoming trip to Vietnam. Those of you that don't like seeing Tina at her incall place can now see her at Nikki's. She also practices the fine art of hot tea. She is Viet, tiny, petite, and spinner.
Spunky168
"The Original Taepo Dong"
[QUOTE=Dads Extra Fun]You warned me but I still wasn't prepared. I've been looking forward to this for a long time and was not disappointed. I didn't evev haggle over price. Massge, tea, multiple positions, and an hour and a half later this was a happy boy. I miss AMP's since they closed them in columbus oh. I envy you locals![/QUOTE]
Sounds like a lot of fun to me. 1 1/2 hours of fun? What was the total damage?
[QUOTE=HolmesJr]Sounds like a lot of fun to me. 1 1/2 hours of fun? What was the total damage?[/QUOTE]I paid $$ to her plus .60 to the house. I know the locals are only going $.50 to her but I got the extra time. Also she told me she prefers to have you call ahead to schedule a time.
Dad,
You paid $$ or $200. 00 plus another $60. 00? I think that you over paid for sure, even though you had spent some extra time. I and I'm sure others have spent extra time there at nikki's for the rate of $. 60, but not $$. 60.
Hope that the girls there don't grow to expect that type of pricing from everyone. Oh well thanks for the report.
Yohimbebrother
[QUOTE=Dads Extra Fun]I paid $$ to her plus .60 to the house. I know the locals are only going $.50 to her but I got the extra time. Also she told me she prefers to have you call ahead to schedule a time.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=United1]Hey everyone,
Sorry for the more serious question. But I am curious about how AMPs are able to stay in business when everyone (LE, Gov, NGOs) know that most of these places provide 'benefits' (f/s, BJ, HJ)
I saw a report on MSNBC last night (rerun) about AMPs in SF. They showed how Mayor Newsome executed a huge crack down on AMPs in SF. And yet, most of them re-opened the next few days. The crackdown was back in 2005 and many of the AMPs shown in the episode are still around today! In fact, many of those AMPs are discussed in this forum!
Got me thinking how AMPs are able to stay in business. When everyone knows what is going on and when they have already been busted.
Also, as a timid monger, I am always worried about LE and wondering how cautious I need to be when frequenting these places. What happens if you get caught by police in one of these establishments? Do they go after johns?
Would be curious to hear your thoughts.[/QUOTE]So what if you get caught there. It`s not illegal to get a massage. It`s not illegal for you or her to be nude during the massage, Only thing that is illegal is if you pay her for sex. And unless they have you on video ( and audio ) doing that, you are innocent. You can even be caught in the middle of sex and still be innocent. All you have to say is you were getting a massage and the two of you hit it off and one thing led to another. You are both adults. You ARE allowed to have sex. Of course law enforecment will try and scare you into admitting you paid for sex. If law enforcement really could prove anything, they would not offer you a "deal" for any info.
[QUOTE=YoHimBeBrother]Dad,
You paid $$ or $200. 00 plus another $60. 00? I think that you over paid for sure, even though you had spent some extra time. I and I'm sure others have spent extra time there at nikki's for the rate of $. 60, but not $$. 60.
Hope that the girls there don't grow to expect that type of pricing from everyone. Oh well thanks for the report.
Yohimbebrother[/QUOTE]I'm a one-time visitor so even though I paid an extra premium, I don't think it will hurt the local market prices.
Enjoy all!
I hope this line works. Honestly, we hit it off really well your honor. I like her and she likie me so much during the massage that she and I felt that we should massage my others groin muscles. Oh by the way I like how she serves up hot tea.
Yohimbebrother
[QUOTE=SpeedRacer29]So what if you get caught there. It`s not illegal to get a massage. It`s not illegal for you or her to be nude during the massage, Only thing that is illegal is if you pay her for sex. And unless they have you on video ( and audio ) doing that, you are innocent. You can even be caught in the middle of sex and still be innocent. All you have to say is you were getting a massage and the two of you hit it off and one thing led to another. You are both adults. You ARE allowed to have sex. Of course law enforecment will try and scare you into admitting you paid for sex. If law enforcement really could prove anything, they would not offer you a "deal" for any info.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]HolmesJr.
Mitchell Brothers, they pretty started the movement of pornagraphy in this country. It once started as a pornagraphic movie house that made the famous movie the " Green Door " with the star John Holmes with the 12 plus dick screwing Marilyn Chambers who was representing Ivory soap or something like that. This movie pretty much made everyone famous including Mitchell Brothers Theater. Years later they turn it into a place that did stripping, lap dances, shower shows, lesbian acts, etccc.. they had and still do have some of the best looking girls around. But comes quality comes high prices!
Although I'm old as fuck now! Just 10 years ago, the entry charge was around $25.00, for a all day past if you got there at 11:30am. You could get a decent lap dance for $5.00 and even hook up with some great ladies on the side. But now do to greed and politics it's doggie dog with the girls so watch out for big rip-offs. If your loaded and into this disregard my message! the format has all changed and just to get in the door is around 50.00 and a lap dance starts at maybe 20.00 for a 1 minute grind. Pretty much clubs you see throughout the U.S. comes from Mitchell Bros. earlier idea's.
LBM / HolmesJr. F.Y.I. I'm a very sensitive guy! and size does matter!
It's LittleBigMan with a big B and M, Good luck, in S.F. and have a fun time![/QUOTE]I was there just a month ago after a 4 year hiatus. It was pathetic. The dances are actually $60 and you have to buy some stupid tokens. $40 to get in. While the girls were gorgeous, the place was not busy and there was no vibe like there used to be. You used to be able to pay the door fee and have women coming up to you all night long, sitting on your lap, chatting and you would pay for an occasional dance. Now they all want a quicky and don't even seem all that interested. Bummer.
SpeedRacer29,
Good advice! but easlier said than done! the cops bust into your massage room and you are butt naked and shaking and cold. And if you have a study girlfriend that you love and plan to marry her or you are already married you are fucked. For the average person they have no idea what their legal rights are and if you are one of those above you would be so scared that the cops most likely would get it out of you.
You be better off at the time if they do bust into your room even with her mouth on your dick or while you was ramming her ass from behind that you met a few days ago and that the both of you hit it off and are having a affair! and that she just happens to be working as a massage therapist and that gave you both the best opportunity in the world.
Now if you are single. Who gives a fuck what they think just tell them that she is married or has a boyfriend and you both hit if off and she needed some attention.
As for the mayor Newsom. he has his own problems fucking his best friends wife in his office and now he's trying to stop our fun!
Az,Mikey
your right! the cost is so high and there are so many scams being run out of these places that you can spend a few hundred and still not come away satisfied!
Enjoy! LBM his heading home soon to Thailand for all the action he had handle.
Guys,
Made a trip to San Francisco and must say the AMP scene is very interesting. After catching dinner in little Italy walked by Thailand Spa on Kearney Street and decided to make an entrance Met the mamasa and she told me to enter one of the rooms. Did not walk in since I wanted to see the lineup for the evening. Out came a Vietnamese girl, late 20's, fake rack with a very petite frame. Initially, I thought my johnson would have a tough time fitting in between her legs. Told her I needed an ATM and would be back. Overall, not very impressed and tried to rush me into one of their massage rooms.
Next, passed the Magical Health Center Massage business located on Kearney Street as well. One of the owners was very good looking and had a younger girl, early 20's who would of been my masseuse. Not very attractive at all, and seems like they specialize in Deep Tissue massages.
Might head off to Nikki's massage parlor if they are still open? Overall, street scene was fairly dead and happy hunting.
[QUOTE=United1]Hey everyone,
Sorry for the more serious question. But I am curious about how AMPs are able to stay in business when everyone (LE, Gov, NGOs) know that most of these places provide 'benefits' (f/s, BJ, HJ)
I saw a report on MSNBC last night (rerun) about AMPs in SF. They showed how Mayor Newsome executed a huge crack down on AMPs in SF. And yet, most of them re-opened the next few days. The crackdown was back in 2005 and many of the AMPs shown in the episode are still around today! In fact, many of those AMPs are discussed in this forum!
Got me thinking how AMPs are able to stay in business. When everyone knows what is going on and when they have already been busted.
Also, as a timid monger, I am always worried about LE and wondering how cautious I need to be when frequenting these places. What happens if you get caught by police in one of these establishments? Do they go after johns?
Would be curious to hear your thoughts.[/QUOTE]One thing you have to remember about politicians. They have to get re-elected. So basically the mayor of these cities has the police "crack" down on these places and they call the TV/newspapers to record it. They can care less about what's happening in these places or that they even exist. It's all pandering for the camera/papers so come re-election they can say they "cracked down on illegal prostitution".
If they really cared they'd go after the higher up people that illegally bring these girls to the country. That is why these places get busted and are re-opened within weeks.
The downfall of the AMP, was because of the Korean Mafia and their sex trade. They went so far overboard running places like Golden Flower, Lee's, and other's that it wave a big red flag. Since, then it's about politics but they have now placed the massage parlor license requirement under the Health Department or Building Department ( or the other way around ) to make it tougher to open or to operate one. Girls have to be certified and license from a professional accredited massage school and have to maintain school credits to renewal. Remember the massage showers in each room now I think it's a red flag to the building department that something is wrong. New applications are very hard to obtain that's why so many are working out of apartments and Condo's and on private websites and Craigslist. As for Nikki's I think I can safely say it is still run and own by the Viet Mafia.
As for action in the North Beach / Chinatown area, in my opinion stay away they are all ripoffs including every single dance club on Broadway street including the Hustler Club on Kearney St. I grew up there and now I'm back. If you have bucks and don't care to loose it and don't mind going home or back to your hotel and jackin off then knock yourself out!
As for a Indonesia place for eating, never seen one near Nikki's but I'm getting old now and it just might be one of those hole in the wall places. But the area around Nikki's is a tough place to run a business. Resturants open and close every few months. There are many bars in the surrounding areas but many or hardcore Gays bars but here are some places around Nikki's. I don't endorse any of these places and never have been inside.
Mexican food on the corner from Nikki's ( Polk and Sutter ) I think this is a chain operation.... How beer!
Oposite from Mexican is a place call Cafe Zitouna, sells Falaffel! Around the corner is a chinese place called Wing Lums, although I'm Chinese doesn't look any good from the outside but I must admit it's been there for years! There is a Indian place called Maharani but if I was from out of town I would visit Victors Pizza, on the 1400 block of Polk, this place is low key with descent food that has been around for over 50 years. The first pizza I ever tasted when I was 15!
Enjoy LBM
As for Bars, on Polk Street, you have a place called Hemlock, Blur, and a place called Hanks on Polk and Post! Looks like a place for a conservative guy like me that might have 50 or so types of beer.
If you keep going west on polk you will encounter various a sundry of different types of eateries and bars. I always seem to enjoy eating at Pho Vietnam, sushi rock and you can stop by at SNOB (sonoma, napa or beyond) for a drink and further down polk a nice wine bar called. Oh crap the place does not have a name. But its a cool local wine bar. I think its called the wine bar.
[QUOTE=LittleBigMan]The downfall of the AMP, was because of the Korean Mafia and their sex trade. They went so far overboard running places like Golden Flower, Lee's, and other's that it wave a big red flag. Since, then it's about politics but they have now placed the massage parlor license requirement under the Health Department or Building Department ( or the other way around ) to make it tougher to open or to operate one. Girls have to be certified and license from a professional accredited massage school and have to maintain school credits to renewal. Remember the massage showers in each room now I think it's a red flag to the building department that something is wrong. New applications are very hard to obtain that's why so many are working out of apartments and Condo's and on private websites and Craigslist. As for Nikki's I think I can safely say it is still run and own by the Viet Mafia.
As for action in the North Beach / Chinatown area, in my opinion stay away they are all ripoffs including every single dance club on Broadway street including the Hustler Club on Kearney St. I grew up there and now I'm back. If you have bucks and don't care to loose it and don't mind going home or back to your hotel and jackin off then knock yourself out!
As for a Indonesia place for eating, never seen one near Nikki's but I'm getting old now and it just might be one of those hole in the wall places. But the area around Nikki's is a tough place to run a business. Resturants open and close every few months. There are many bars in the surrounding areas but many or hardcore Gays bars but here are some places around Nikki's. I don't endorse any of these places and never have been inside.
Mexican food on the corner from Nikki's ( Polk and Sutter ) I think this is a chain operation.... How beer!
Oposite from Mexican is a place call Cafe Zitouna, sells Falaffel! Around the corner is a chinese place called Wing Lums, although I'm Chinese doesn't look any good from the outside but I must admit it's been there for years! There is a Indian place called Maharani but if I was from out of town I would visit Victors Pizza, on the 1400 block of Polk, this place is low key with descent food that has been around for over 50 years. The first pizza I ever tasted when I was 15!
Enjoy LBM
As for Bars, on Polk Street, you have a place called Hemlock, Blur, and a place called Hanks on Polk and Post! Looks like a place for a conservative guy like me that might have 50 or so types of beer.[/QUOTE]