[QUOTE=DownloadX;7095831]I'm going to talk about the practical effects. Anyone can threaten to call the cops, no matter the law of course. But most people will not actually call the cops in such a situation. For example one landlord wanted to evict a korg and threatened to call the cops if they didn't agree to terminate the lease. So they agreed, and slowly moved out over several weeks. The landlord does not want a bad rep, actually calling the cops is unthinkable unless they have no other choice to get rid of them. For various reasons, calling the cops is not a common thing. But the possibility is used to scare people and drive them off.
Note that threatening to call the cops unless you pay an extra fee is extortion, no matter the legality of calling the cops without that threat. For example I'll call the cops that you stole $100 unless you give me $500 is a felony. Way worse than the alleged theft. Same with "I'll post X unless you give me why" This is why when you have a legit situation you use a lawyer who will not use threatening language that breaks the law, but can frame it as a settlement. Which is legal. If someone tries to extort you, you're in luck because they messed up and you can ignore them. They are not going to admit to a felony, it is generally much worse than what they are threatening you over.
Next I want to point out business will probably not be up. This is simply a result of competition. Girls do not go "where the law is easy", they go where the customers are. Always. Because there are a couple spots in the US where it is 100% legal but you don't see girls flocking to rural Nevada. Just not how girls think.
Enforcement is very state-by-state. In California they repealed the loitering law because cops were harassing innocent civilians for dressing a certain way, especially if they were a certain race. Now, there are streetwalkers around. It is still illegal to solicit but the loitering law made the job super easy (and super abusive towards innocents).
In New York, enforcement is down 100-fold:
[URL]https://gothamist.com/news/there-used-to-be-tens-of-thousands-of-prostitution-arrests-in-nyc-now-about-100[/URL]
People are literally taking the train and flying in to NYC for fun. Enforcement is way down in CA too, and most states. It is not even a drop of water in a bucket. In NYC millions of cocks get turned a year. Everybody goes on with their lives and are happy. Most places are run so as to not cause trouble. Even if not enforced they don't want to be evicted, they want everyone to be happy.
This illustrates it is not the law that matters but whether or not it is even enforced. In certain states it is a misdemeanor but also not even enforced. I post in the COI (City of Industry) strip club forums, gone there for years. It is a non-stop fuck fest. Only the local police are responsible to investigate, but they don't. If anything, it helps the community and the clubs cause no trouble other than bring money in. Everybody is happy. Every few years the police raid for drugs and weapons, completely ignore the sex. They do this when they hear someone got hurt and that's their response. It is not a federal crime so the feds won't touch it. The state leaves it to each police district. So other cities don't have as much fun as COI, it varies from city to city. Just how it is.
For every problem there is a solution. Many locals will stick local but the big money will be elsewhere in the very worst case. And that's where the girls will go to work.[/QUOTE]I think it's very important to recognize the temperature here. You're referring to liberal states. Vice laws have been on the books for a million years in NY and CA, but the key is that, for the most part liberal states really aren't about legislating morality. Sure, do something stupid and you'll get busted. There are occasional stings, especially when Homeland Security teams are working in those states, but for the most part it's not what departments want their people doing, and it's certainly not the kind of cases prosecutors want to be working on. A very good friend of mine from school is a NY Chief Prosecutor and she said to me "I really don't care who fucks who for whatever reason".
This situation in NC is very different. This legislature is all about legislating morality. The 'NC Family Policy Council' is currently the most active lobbying group to the NC legislature, and it is really they that are drafting these bills. They wanted the Porn Law and got it, and they're currently 3 for 3 on Prostitution Bills. They're peddling a couple other doozies right now in Raleigh as well. They get what they want because they fund right-wing campaigns in this state. Sure, the local and county cops get to decide how much attention they give to enforcement. However, the state has provided funding to local agencies to enforce this law. Agencies don't usually turn down opportunities to expand. Further, two Homeland Security sting teams are making their home down here indefinitely. One of the two is already here (probably reading this post). That's an incredible amount of horsepower. I have no doubt that two full teams alone will be able to put enough pressure on every NC USASG forum area on this board for us to feel it. Why do they want to be here? Virtually guaranteed felony convictions. HS (FBI) operated in Texas for awhile after their new law was implemented. However, judges there were able to respond to Prayer For Judgment requests, and many of those judges allowed for lesser charges for first time offenders. That is not possible here. Every arrest = a felony case and the judge cannot downgrade the charges or the sentencing guidelines. This is now the worst place in the USA to hobby. If we're going to continue we need to entirely rethink methods. I doubt I will continue.
