Massage Parlor Reports

[QUOTE=WawaMan;6897894]It will be interesting to see how the Asian (and American) parlors skirt around the new regulations. I wonder how many will just pack up and move out of state.[/QUOTE]I'll be surprised if this law scares away that many parlors. They're pretty crafty and probably anticipate laws like these. The volume of AMPs in this state is pretty insurmountable and I don't see the state having the time and competency to shut them all down or enforce this as strictly as we fear.

I know some places like Tampa have "aromatherapy shops" so they may change names or nature of services offered if it gets to be a problem.

[QUOTE=Cdmail32;6898047]Change is going to come.[/QUOTE]It was fun while it lasted.

The establishment will be required to "RECORD" in English or spanish and "VERIFY" the "CLIENTS" name address and phone number before services can be rendered. The only way anyone can verify your name and address is with state issued I'd. No idea how they would verify your phone number. Either way things are going to get rough for these businesses pretty fast because I don't see anyone giving up their Id.

[QUOTE=RGar455;6898161]I'll be surprised if this law scares away that many parlors. They're pretty crafty and probably anticipate laws like these. The volume of AMPs in this state is pretty insurmountable and I don't see the state having the time and competency to shut them all down or enforce this as strictly as we fear.

I know some places like Tampa have "aromatherapy shops" so they may change names or nature of services offered if it gets to be a problem.[/QUOTE]I imagine many of the places will not ask for I'd if they know you are a regular. But if someone new walks in they may have you fill in the form until they get to know you better. IDK.

This may be their way to go after who they consider "The Problem Shops. (like the old Milk in O Town). There are parts of the new bill that allows them to shut down immediately establishments that cater more to sexual activities (the horror. LOL) than massage. This allows them to shut them down without having to wait for guilty verdicts thru the court system. Just my wishful 2 cents opinion.

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;6898030]Here's a site that put together a nice summary: [URL]https://fcachiro.org/blogpost/2117698/500877/Florida-s-New-Massage-Establishment-Law--You-Have-2-Months-to-Come-into-Compliance[/URL].

And here's the full text of HB 197: [URL]https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/197/BillText/er/PDF[/URL].

In the full text document, check out page 12, line 289, paragraph f.[/QUOTE]This is unfortunate news. Although my best AMP experience was in Orlando, a local visit did meet the need on occasion. Looks like it all will be off the table statewide.

[QUOTE=ForestGreen213;6898731]The establishment will be required to "RECORD" in English or spanish and "VERIFY" the "CLIENTS" name address and phone number before services can be rendered. The only way anyone can verify your name and address is with state issued I'd. No idea how they would verify your phone number. Either way things are going to get rough for these businesses pretty fast because I don't see anyone giving up their Id.[/QUOTE]Must be in English or Spanish?? What about our fine outstanding Asian American friends and citizens! Our elected officials are very very prejudiced bigots!!

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;6898030]Here's a site that put together a nice summary: [URL]https://fcachiro.org/blogpost/2117698/500877/Florida-s-New-Massage-Establishment-Law--You-Have-2-Months-to-Come-into-Compliance[/URL].

And here's the full text of HB 197: [URL]https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/197/BillText/er/PDF[/URL].

In the full text document, check out page 12, line 289, paragraph f.[/QUOTE]I always wanted a hair cut with a hand shake.

Maybe Ill start getting my nails done get my drift.

They should leave things alone cause there going to open up a bunch of other business to doing things that massage parlors took care of.

Its not like all of the massage shops gave happy endings just like 9 out of 10.

[QUOTE=JayJayTwo;6898030]Here's a site that put together a nice summary: [URL]https://fcachiro.org/blogpost/2117698/500877/Florida-s-New-Massage-Establishment-Law--You-Have-2-Months-to-Come-into-Compliance[/URL].

And here's the full text of HB 197: [URL]https://www.flsenate.gov/Session/Bill/2024/197/BillText/er/PDF[/URL].

In the full text document, check out page 12, line 289, paragraph f.[/QUOTE]Read the Bill and the various summaries and have to say. Bit confused with the part where the 'clients' must be identified with all their PI. I really don't disagree with record keeping for Employees and Owners as applicable or even with the 'dress code' or the silly rules on windows and doors and I can sort of see how that might. Just might deter the exploitation of some workers. But I DON'T see how recording a client's personal information. Including phone number and home address!! That isn't going to do squat to deter exploitation. But it will force many of these places to close down due to just a lack of business. And THAT makes me wonder. WHO really is behind this. Cause I don't think it has anything to do with LE. But perhaps its another 'profession' that has seen a cut into their 'business profits'. This Bill needs to be challenged in the Courts and at a minimum. That recording of 'client' information needs to be removed. That right there will be the reason many shops will choose to just close as business dries up. Even if they are compliant in all the others. Sort of. Just my thoughts.

[QUOTE=BeachBum15;6901203]Read the Bill and the various summaries and have to say. Bit confused with the part where the 'clients' must be identified with all their PI. I really don't disagree with record keeping for Employees and Owners as applicable or even with the 'dress code' or the silly rules on windows and doors and I can sort of see how that might. Just might deter the exploitation of some workers. But I DON'T see how recording a client's personal information. Including phone number and home address!! That isn't going to do squat to deter exploitation. But it will force many of these places to close down due to just a lack of business. And THAT makes me wonder. WHO really is behind this. Cause I don't think it has anything to do with LE. But perhaps its another 'profession' that has seen a cut into their 'business profits'. This Bill needs to be challenged in the Courts and at a minimum. That recording of 'client' information needs to be removed. That right there will be the reason many shops will choose to just close as business dries up. Even if they are compliant in all the others. Sort of. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]Couldn't "clients" just fill out fake address info and names? Nobody is really there to prove the customer had their I'd verified. I imagine these places can just collect fake info to make it appear legit.

[QUOTE=BeachBum15;6901203]Read the Bill and the various summaries and have to say. Bit confused with the part where the 'clients' must be identified with all their PI. I really don't disagree with record keeping for Employees and Owners as applicable or even with the 'dress code' or the silly rules on windows and doors and I can sort of see how that might. Just might deter the exploitation of some workers. But I DON'T see how recording a client's personal information. Including phone number and home address!! That isn't going to do squat to deter exploitation. But it will force many of these places to close down due to just a lack of business. And THAT makes me wonder. WHO really is behind this. Cause I don't think it has anything to do with LE. But perhaps its another 'profession' that has seen a cut into their 'business profits'. This Bill needs to be challenged in the Courts and at a minimum. That recording of 'client' information needs to be removed. That right there will be the reason many shops will choose to just close as business dries up. Even if they are compliant in all the others. Sort of. Just my thoughts.[/QUOTE]One word, Disney. Years ago you could have a great time at Orlando gentleman's clubs until Disney used their power to influence county and city governments to change the rules. No touching, 3 foot rules, and pasties killed the business in Orlando and the traffic moved to Tampa and Brevard. Disney hates when money leaves the parks and AMPs must have gotten on their radar. Think about how much Disney park and cruise money they think they are missing from men going to AMPs in Miami, Brevard, Orlando, and Tampa?

[QUOTE=ForestGreen213;6901548]One word, Disney. Years ago.........[/QUOTE]Years ago we had the Bouy Boat at Port Canaveral which went offshore and offered gambling on the upper decks and ladies below deck. Then a Disney Cruise Ship made Port Canaveral home port and in a nanosecond or less the Bouy Boat was gone forever from Port Canaveral.

Also I knew an attorney who worked for Disney in their legal department. She was sent to various Orlando Strip Clubs to observe and personally warn them about their strippers wearing Disney Costumes, they would be facing serious lawsuits from Disney. We had some laughs about some of the costumes she saw.

[QUOTE=StymieChula;6901202]I always wanted a hair cut with a hand shake.

Maybe Ill start getting my nails done get my drift.

They should leave things alone cause there going to open up a bunch of other business to doing things that massage parlors took care of.

Its not like all of the massage shops gave happy endings just like 9 out of 10.[/QUOTE]I imagine a lot of AMPs can change their name or "services" ever so slightly so it doesn't file under a massage. "Body work"? "Aromatherapy?

[QUOTE=Richbal;6902541]Years ago we had the Bouy Boat at Port Canaveral which went offshore and offered gambling on the upper decks and ladies below deck. Then a Disney Cruise Ship made Port Canaveral home port and in a nanosecond or less the Bouy Boat was gone forever from Port Canaveral.

Also I knew an attorney who worked for Disney in their legal department. She was sent to various Orlando Strip Clubs to observe and personally warn them about their strippers wearing Disney Costumes, they would be facing serious lawsuits from Disney. We had some laughs about some of the costumes she saw.[/QUOTE]So her JOB was to go to strip clubs and observe the strippers? Where do I sign up for that?

Was up in cocoa area, tried to see liberty but Kim / kat or whomever is the only one that works Saturday. I didn't like my previous visit so was driving around a but. Thought maybe asiana (now ace massage) but remembered a good time I had at massage heaven down by cheaters. Parking in rear is always nice. Met by mid 40's lady, skinny but nice C manmades. 8 for the hour Ok TS, no play or anything. Massage was pretty good, medium to hard trying to work out the kinks. Flip and motioned for BJ with top off. No tip mentioned just left to get supplies and onto the fun. Good BJ, lots of attention to the boys as well. Saggy but nice manmades. Ended up getting her naked and then into 69. Tasty somewhat and responsive, good skills bit scratchy with the nails on the boys though. Ended with some more massage to finish the time and let $ tip. All in all a good L2 option.

Stopped by Fee Avenue on my way recently. No table shower but there was a regular shower / bathroom right in the same room if needed. Provider not particularly attractive for me but decent body so proceeded. Massage just so so and on the flip all services were available. I opted just for the typical hand shake as I was not really that interested. Maybe I'm just getting too old, but it takes a bit to get me going and it just was not the right combination of looks and technique. Left only semi happy but tipped generously for the effort and in the spirit of free enterprise. Not a repeat for me but some have had better luck; just depends on what you are looking for.

I had a peaceful, easy feeling while relaxing on the Treasure Coast of Florida.

Scheduled an appointment in PB midweek.

Thanks to Krys and the Serenity Room, I was more relaxed and more peaceful at the end of our appointment.

Krys is a special person. I hope all will always be nice to this lady.

PA.

[QUOTE=PilotAviator;6906759]I had a peaceful, easy feeling while relaxing on the Treasure Coast of Florida.

Scheduled an appointment in PB midweek.

Thanks to Krys and the Serenity Room, I was more relaxed and more peaceful at the end of our appointment.

Krys is a special person. I hope all will always be nice to this lady.

PA.[/QUOTE]She is a sweetheart and a favorite of many here. A unique experience for sure and in most cases a better alternative to an AMP.

Just drove pass king and they look closed. Does anyone know what happened if they did close?

SBR.

[QUOTE=SitbacRelax;6922014]Just drove pass king and they look closed. Does anyone know what happened if they did close?

SBR.[/QUOTE]Mia is on vacation until the weekend.

[QUOTE=ToyotaVon;6922027]Mia is on vacation until the weekend.[/QUOTE]Thank you.

I saw her a few months back. She gave a pretty good topless massage. She has an average body, with some big boobs. Afterwards the fun started or at least I wish it was fun. She tugged for like a three minutes then complained about being tired. She did not finish until completion. I chose an hour appointment, but was out the door in 45 on her accord. Her British accent was the only thing I found attractive about her. Also, ashe was super paranoid during the appointment, making it not so relaxing. I don't recommend.

Closetfaucet.

[URL]https://skipthegames.com/posts/orlando/massage/caucasian_w/beautiful-british-and-very-ski/233622279484[/URL]

There's a new possible AMP on S Patrick opposite of a Financial Firm.

No listed prices or pictures of the building, only services, they did say they are waiting on to pass inspection to open.

[QUOTE=Totk33;6938366]There's a new possible AMP on S Patrick opposite of a Financial Firm.

No listed prices or pictures of the building, only services, they did say they are waiting on to pass inspection to open.[/QUOTE]Is it being built to in accordance to the new laws going into effect July 1?

[QUOTE=MarkGew;6938381]Is it being built to in accordance to the new laws going into effect July 1?[/QUOTE]I would not know. I didn't ask them that question. I only had contact with the spa through text and didn't want to bring that up.

Stopped by Sunrise on the corner of Atlantic and Hayes. I was not expecting much and wanted a solid massage which I got. Got a mid 30's chick I want to say but I did not get her name. The massage was decent but no signs of extra for me. She got near the boys but that's about it. 80 bucks for the hour massage plus a tip. Will probably hit up another spa when I'm in the area again.

It has been a while but I stopped by Lemon Tree and got Kimmi. I swear this was the same Kimmi from Mila who disappeared during covid. She is tall and very attractive. Gave me a great massage, no tableshower but it was offered. On the flip she pulled the soul out of my cock and she caught it right on her face. She giggled a bit but I could tell she was kinda pissed. I gave her the usual tip and out I went. I'm still going to go back and see her, hopefully there are no hard feelings.

[QUOTE=Nightrider6;6857081]Hey there Bd1900 I don't know if there are any pics of Kim on any other sites. It's possible though that she may have some social media sites. That was my first time seeing Kim and meeting her. I originally called Liberty while on the road heading that way hoping that she would be free, but she had an appt in 30 minutes. So she suggested that I come in anyway and see Kim, and that I wouldn't be disappointed, and wow, she was right DM if you like.[/QUOTE]Been a bit since I posted but wanted to contribute. Things have changed so much. Newbies please stop over paying in AMPs. Argue a little, they will come down. It makes it harder for the rest of us.

So AMPs are pretty much the same. The ones that are FS still are, the others still aren't. They rotate staff. A few new ones out there now that are lacking but it's cyclic. Don't try to fall in love, they see you as a transaction, you should do the same and all will be well.

Now onto "Massage in Merritt Island". Many know these women but for those that don't here are my 2 cents.

Kim is nice. She is a decent person and a pleasure to see. I recommend her as well. Marika is older but fun and hard to see most of the time. I have seen lots of things on here about Liberty so I hope I don't hurt feelings. I've just recently seen her and I'm sorry but not my cup of tea. I know she is the owner in no small part because she told me, repeatedly. She is older but that's not a problem for me. Not unattractive, kinda squishy, but thinks she's way better looking than she is. Her "handy" work is on point but she wouldn't stop talking shit about others in the biz (even a little about a co-worker) and telling me how wonderful she was. She told me how long she has been doing this work and I whole heartedly believe it. Long and short of it is I seriously doubt if I would ever go back for any of them just based on the costs of doing business. They are 50-100 more than any of the competition and while I like Kim and Marika they simply are not worth that difference. That comes out for every 2-3 visits there is 4 anywhere else. I miss seeing them in other locations as it felt less business and the donations were more reasonable. The quality isn't that far superior and not having to listen to Kim is worth money to me.

So if you have the disposable funds Kim is fluffy but good, funds+time Marika is older but fun, Liberty if you have funds+ you're deaf + like squishy and limited services but does what she does well enough. YMMV.

[QUOTE=Spokes;6940777]Been a bit since I posted but wanted to contribute. Things have changed so much. Newbies please stop over paying in AMPs. Argue a little, they will come down. It makes it harder for the rest of us.

So AMPs are pretty much the same. The ones that are FS still are, the others still aren't. They rotate staff. A few new ones out there now that are lacking but it's cyclic. Don't try to fall in love, they see you as a transaction, you should do the same and all will be well.

Now onto "Massage in Merritt Island". Many know these women but for those that don't here are my 2 cents.

Kim is nice. She is a decent person and a pleasure to see. I recommend her as well. Marika is older but fun and hard to see most of the time. I have seen lots of things on here about Liberty so I hope I don't hurt feelings. I've just recently seen her and I'm sorry but not my cup of tea. I know she is the owner in no small part because she told me, repeatedly. She is older but that's not a problem for me. Not unattractive, kinda squishy, but thinks she's way better looking than she is. Her "handy" work is on point but she wouldn't stop talking shit about others in the biz (even a little about a co-worker) and telling me how wonderful she was. She told me how long she has been doing this work and I whole heartedly believe it. Long and short of it is I seriously doubt if I would ever go back for any of them just based on the costs of doing business. They are 50-100 more than any of the competition and while I like Kim and Marika they simply are not worth that difference. That comes out for every 2-3 visits there is 4 anywhere else. I miss seeing them in other locations as it felt less business and the donations were more reasonable. The quality isn't that far superior and not having to listen to Kim is worth money to me.

So if you have the disposable funds Kim is fluffy but good, funds+time Marika is older but fun, Liberty if you have funds+ you're deaf + like squishy and limited services but does what she does well enough. YMMV.[/QUOTE]Thanks! Very informative and good advice!

I've seen on here nothing good comes from Titusville.

I disagree, couple new or maybe new owners?

Full service.

Lavender on garden st. She's not bad looking probably mid 30's but like you said "negotiate" I got her way down from her original price I will not say how much because she will know it's me (they read).

Also 'new massage spa' on Hopkins, same as lavender. My favorite there already did a month and left.

Should be interesting when new law goes into effect July 1st.

Does anyone know anything about the massage place in the Publix center at Wickham Rd and Lake Washington? I think it's called Health Ways. It is next to the Joe's Bagel. Are there any FS massage places in that area?

Not sure if this review belongs in Massage Section, Non-AMPs Section or Escorts Section or all three! I saw this woman on Tryst Port St Lucie a few weeks back and was indeed curious since I do enjoy a professional Massage with some extras and I did some research and read a few reviews about her from the West Palm Beach Forums! Reached out to her and set up a session at her home in Port St Lucie. Now Becky just moved up here from Boca where she had a great fan club some of whom I learned later, have followed her up to visit! Her home in Port St Lucie was elegant, in a nice safe neighborhood and between her Massage Room, Shower area and outside pool, reminded me more of a Spa! Friendly, pleasant, easy to talk to and clearly a real pro as I was about to soon find out. Disrobed and just continued to stare at her super fit body and awesome breasts! Becky started me off on her massage table with some exfoliation and salt rub on my neck, shoulders, back and legs and it felt great! Wiping me off she started with some oil and a fantastic deep tissue massage and brother, let me tell you that this woman has very strong hands and great techniques! Becky worked her way all over my neck, shoulders, back and legs and I was in heaven! After about a half hour, she had me flip and started with a very sensual Nuru, rubbing her awesome tits and body all over my front! Of course, junior was soon very excited and she started her magic with her hands and rubbing junior all over those breasts, I was soon spent! Becky then led me to her shower and with hot water and soap rubbed me squeaky clean! What an incredible experience! We talked for awhile after and she explained that she just recently moved here and is trying to build up her clientele and that her menu will open up with subsequent visits if she feels comfortable. All in all, a great time! I did the Silver Massage for 300 Mario's and it was worth every penny! Of course, definitely plan on visiting again soon even if it is a drive. Becky told me that she prefers older men, since she's older and Forum Members should reach out if you don't mind the drive! I did post for her on Indian River / St Lucie / Martin Forum and she is already creating quite a stir! Cheers!

Here in Orlando I know a fee AMPs that were planning on opening new locations have suspended those plans. Anyone have any insight on what's going on in Brevard? I hear a lot of different things like converting to non massage type businesses like o2 bars or meditation centers. I am not willing to give up I'd or personal information so I won't be a patron if these places comes July.

[QUOTE=WawaMan;6897894]Last week Florida signed into effect 2024 HB 197 that goes into effect July 1, 2024. This is a bill designed to help stop Human Trafficking. It was written to change the way Massage parlors operate. It's biggest take-aways are that all clients (mongers too!) must now fill out a form giving their legal name, address, phone umber, etc. (much like we do going to the doctors office, each time we visit. Also they are required to verify from a government approved I'd. (I do not know if they will be scanned in as they do at a doctors office. (I hope not).

They also say the girls cannot wear see-thru clothes. (I wish I knew of places where this occurs now! They say it is a problem?

It will be interesting to see how the Asian (and American) parlors skirt around the new regulations. I wonder how many will just pack up and move out of state.

I hope some lawyers will start a class action suit to stop this, as many places are not making a lot of money now due to the bad economy. (Just my thoughts).[/QUOTE]I hope you guys will read this and get an idea of the shape of things to come when this law goes into effect next week! Private providers who operate out of their homes, like Krys in Palm Bay, Becky Brazilian in Port St Lucie, etc. Are going to be busy!

[QUOTE=Willie24;6944654]I hope you guys will read this and get an idea of the shape of things to come when this law goes into effect next week! Private providers who operate out of their homes, like Krys in Palm Bay, Becky Brazilian in Port St Lucie, etc. Are going to be busy![/QUOTE]Yes, sad but true.

Law enforcement going to read this forum and rubmaps and give D. O. H. a call for they can shut them down on the spot for non-compliance.

Hope the voter's remember who voted for this!

[QUOTE=ForestGreen213;6938905]It has been a while but I stopped by Lemon Tree and got Kimmi. I swear this was the same Kimmi from Mila who disappeared during covid. She is tall and very attractive. Gave me a great massage, no tableshower but it was offered. On the flip she pulled the soul out of my cock and she caught it right on her face. She giggled a bit but I could tell she was kinda pissed. I gave her the usual tip and out I went. I'm still going to go back and see her, hopefully there are no hard feelings.[/QUOTE]Yep It's her.

[QUOTE=ForestGreen213;6898731]The establishment will be required to "RECORD" in English or spanish and "VERIFY" the "CLIENTS" name address and phone number before services can be rendered. The only way anyone can verify your name and address is with state issued I'd. No idea how they would verify your phone number. Either way things are going to get rough for these businesses pretty fast because I don't see anyone giving up their Id.[/QUOTE]It only says that a client's photo I'd MAY be used to verify- not MUST. Verification can take different forms, including self-verification. Example. Provider: "Is that your real name and address?" Monger: "Yes ma'am". Provider: "Thanks for verifying, now let's go drain that pecker".

[QUOTE=Whiskeysours;6947097]It only says that a client's photo I'd MAY be used to verify- not MUST. Verification can take different forms, including self-verification. Example. Provider: "Is that your real name and address?" Monger: "Yes ma'am". Provider: "Thanks for verifying, now let's go drain that pecker".[/QUOTE]Same thing in Arizona. Nobody ever used their real name (maybe morons) and nothing ever happened that I saw. Scare tactics. Do the ladies in the AMPs strike you as someone who understands and follows the state statutes? Most put down the sheriff's or gov's name. They still do the usual LEO stuff so stupid can still cost you.

[QUOTE=Spokes;6950467]Same thing in Arizona. Nobody ever used their real name (maybe morons) and nothing ever happened that I saw. Scare tactics. Do the ladies in the AMPs strike you as someone who understands and follows the state statutes? Most put down the sheriff's or gov's name. They still do the usual LEO stuff so stupid can still cost you.[/QUOTE]Anyone partake since the 1st? Just wondering what the compliance level is like.

[QUOTE=GoCanes;6959346]Anyone partake since the 1st? Just wondering what the compliance level is like.[/QUOTE]Visited one I've frequented over the years in Melbourne yesterday, there was a new to me Asian working there, no mention of any new procedures and extras were indulged. I've read Orlando forum and at the most someone posted she had a form and said fake name and number here?? haven't read anyone posting they were required to show ID.

[QUOTE=MarkGew;6959399]Visited one I've frequented over the years in Melbourne yesterday, there was a new to me Asian working there, no mention of any new procedures and extras were indulged. I've read Orlando forum and at the most someone posted she had a form and said fake name and number here?? haven't read anyone posting they were required to show ID.[/QUOTE]I visited Mia yesterday older woman behind counter I said I would come back she stopped me said they had other was greeted by may oh my what a woman had nice massage with tease before flip with more hands on on flip. OTC rub then proceeded to pull her pants down then I proceeded to pull panties down where I was able play with her cat to my l1 finish.

Bs.