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[QUOTE=NodozFreak;4673133]I would never do it. They don't even get my real name.[/QUOTE]Thanks for feedback everyone. Still seems like every decent provider asks for some sort of verification. I know some don't of course, but I would say from my observations they are lower quality. Back to private info, I know everyone talks about burners, but the app company behind the burner of course had your info and if contacted would give it up in a second. Seems like a losing battle sometimes.
[QUOTE=Econ911;4667704]Good evening gents. What is everyone's opinion on giving person info to providers? Seems more and more are asking and I get why they do it. On the other hand, report below about possible blackmail freaks me out.
Do you guys give personal info such as name or LinkedIn profile or skip providers that ask for such info. Just want to see what everyone thinks of this and what everyone does when asked for info.[/QUOTE]No way, never. I'm P411, which allows a provider to verify you without you disclosing your real name to them. I didn't have to give 411 my real I'd when I signed up years ago, but I don't know if that is still the case. But even if 411 has your info, at least you're a level removed from the provider having it. I also signed up for room service also years ago, but then found out that I still had to give providers my real name and city, so never used it.
There are just too many potential down-sides. If they insist on my real info, I just move on. And don't believe them for a minute when they say they'll delete your info after you are verified. Why in the world would they do that, since they claim having your real info is for their own protection?
Burners - buy a burner phone, register it under a fake name, pay for it with cash. I've never been convinced that burner Aps on your regular phone were safe.
[QUOTE=Dodge55;4677383]No way, never. I'm P411, which allows a provider to verify you without you disclosing your real name to them. I didn't have to give 411 my real I'd when I signed up years ago, but I don't know if that is still the case. But even if 411 has your info, at least you're a level removed from the provider having it. I also signed up for room service also years ago, but then found out that I still had to give providers my real name and city, so never used it.
There are just too many potential down-sides. If they insist on my real info, I just move on. And don't believe them for a minute when they say they'll delete your info after you are verified. Why in the world would they do that, since they claim having your real info is for their own protection?
Burners - buy a burner phone, register it under a fake name, pay for it with cash. I've never been convinced that burner Aps on your regular phone were safe.[/QUOTE]If they ever provide or take references, they obviously keep your info.
[QUOTE=Econ911;4677173]Thanks for feedback everyone. Still seems like every decent provider asks for some sort of verification. I know some don't of course, but I would say from my observations they are lower quality. Back to private info, I know everyone talks about burners, but the app company behind the burner of course had your info and if contacted would give it up in a second. Seems like a losing battle sometimes.[/QUOTE]Use google voice. Or a regular physical burner phone, not an app.
[QUOTE=StanKost;4674468]I am working things up with a SA woman who is DTF but when we met she looks 25 - 50 lbs heavier than her pics. She calls herself very curvy but she is BBW or PAWG. Anyway she has some positive qualities too and I plan trying it. I like curvy girls but she is beyond that. Have you guys banged fat girls and what to expect? I worry if I will get a hard on if she looks bad when she takes her clothes off. Any tips how to fck a fat girl?[/QUOTE]
Doggystyle so she cant see you. Close your eyes and use your imagination. Hopefully there are no mirrors
[QUOTE=Econ911;4667704]Good evening gents. What is everyone's opinion on giving person info to providers? Seems more and more are asking and I get why they do it. On the other hand, report below about possible blackmail freaks me out.
Do you guys give personal info such as name or LinkedIn profile or skip providers that ask for such info. Just want to see what everyone thinks of this and what everyone does when asked for info.[/QUOTE]Never, ever, ever. There's not a single provider hot enough, cheap enough, or able to suck the chrome off a bumper that's going to get anything personally identifiable. If they ask I say no and if they don't like that, move on to someone else. You always have choices, it's never worth the risk.
[QUOTE=Econ911;4667704]Good evening gents. What is everyone's opinion on giving person info to providers? Seems more and more are asking and I get why they do it. On the other hand, report below about possible blackmail freaks me out.
Do you guys give personal info such as name or LinkedIn profile or skip providers that ask for such info. Just want to see what everyone thinks of this and what everyone does when asked for info.[/QUOTE]You have to remember that most of these girls are either criminals themselves or have acquaintances / friends who are criminals, so you need to be really careful who you share your info with.
If you are worried about references, there's an approach I use that even tho take some time, it's worth it in the long run:
1. Find a provider you want to meet but she asks for references or personal info in order to do background checks.
2. Check if that provider have social media accounts (twitter, switter, IG, onlyfans, etc) and look for another providers she follows.
3. Hit those providers, usually at least one of them will be cool to see you without background check.
4. Be extremely nice with them (not saying give the more money or gifts, but be a gentleman and don't be pushy). At the second visit, ask them if you can use her as reference.
5. Hit the first provider again, give her the second pro's number. Then you are set.
Now you have at least two references that can vouch for you without the need of background checks. It worked for me in two different cities.
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Doggystyle so she cant see you. Close your eyes and use your imagination. Hopefully there are no mirrors[/QUOTE]I ended up seeing her and although the guys talking about the jiggly belly are right what she lacked physically (or what she had in excess actually) she compensated with top performance. She started with BBBJ and CFS for the first round but I asked for BBFS with CIP and she agreed. We went for total of 4 rounds interrupted only by a brief trip to the local bar for bite and a beer. She pulled s toy to fck her between the rounds. After the 4 round my dick was half hard but she was spitting, sucking and jerking me till I finished on her tits. It has been few years since I had so much action in a matter of few hours. Unfortunately she is getting emotional about "us" which is great for sex but I feel bad for her cause I don't see this going for a long time.
[QUOTE=HakunaMatata;4674111]There was a short discussion on Latina places some time ago ([URL]http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?3578-General-Reports&p=3787133&viewfull=1[/URL]#post3787133). Took me some time but I believe I found something similar. House on the west side Chicago, one girl at the time, but there rotate every 2-3 weeks. Prices are $60 for quick service and $100 for 30 minutes. Service is pretty basic CBJ and then FS. I had good times but it's very YMMV. Willing to share information on PM to whoever I deem worthy.[/QUOTE]Is it the place with last 4 digits xxx-yyy-9577?
If so, not too impressed w / girl in the pic. If you happen to run into a younger / prettier gal, please PM me.
[QUOTE=Explorer8;4679947]Is it the place with last 4 digits xxx-yyy-9577?
If so, not too impressed w / girl in the pic. If you happen to run into a younger / prettier gal, please PM me.[/QUOTE]No, that's not the number. I guess we have different places in mind.
[QUOTE=HakunaMatata;4680349]No, that's not the number. I guess we have different places in mind[/QUOTE]PM incoming my friend.
There is a good post on the news & media section of this site on this subject. Poster commented that a lot of time the people that get busted are the ones going with providers that don't ask for verification, lower quality ones that advertise on lower quality sites. No issues with that at all and to each is own of course, but it's valid somewhat. In the end of the day all can be done is lower risk best we can free.
[QUOTE=RomeoPapa22;4679653]You have to remember that most of these girls are either criminals themselves or have acquaintances / friends who are criminals, so you need to be really careful who you share your info with.
If you are worried about references, there's an approach I use that even tho take some time, it's worth it in the long run:
1. Find a provider you want to meet but she asks for references or personal info in order to do background checks.
2. Check if that provider have social media accounts (twitter, switter, IG, onlyfans, etc) and look for another providers she follows.
3. Hit those providers, usually at least one of them will be cool to see you without background check.
4. Be extremely nice with them (not saying give the more money or gifts, but be a gentleman and don't be pushy). At the second visit, ask them if you can use her as reference.
5. Hit the first provider again, give her the second pro's number. Then you are set.
Now you have at least two references that can vouch for you without the need of background checks. It worked for me in two different cities.[/QUOTE]
Does anyone of you have P411, RS2 K, date-check, TER, etc? Is it worth the monthly subscription? Just asking because most girls keep asking for some form of background check before a meeting.
[QUOTE=RomeoPapa22;4681623]Does anyone of you have P411, RS2 K, date-check, TER, etc? Is it worth the monthly subscription? Just asking because most girls keep asking for some form of background check before a meeting.[/QUOTE]It depends on how often you do this and how much you like to spend. It's a stupid idea if you only meet up with a provider like twice per year. It also depends how much you value your privacy.
I've already given out personal info (full name and employer) to 2 different ones. I wish I could take it back now, could come back to bite me in the ass in the future even tho they were well-reviewed. Anyway, I still wouldn't spend money on P411, etc.
[QUOTE=LeChevalier;4681764]It depends on how often you do this and how much you like to spend. It's a stupid idea if you only meet up with a provider like twice per year. It also depends how much you value your privacy.
I've already given out personal info (full name and employer) to 2 different ones. I wish I could take it back now, could come back to bite me in the ass in the future even tho they were well-reviewed. Anyway, I still wouldn't spend money on P411, etc.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=RomeoPapa22;4681623]Does anyone of you have P411, RS2 K, date-check, TER, etc? Is it worth the monthly subscription? Just asking because most girls keep asking for some form of background check before a meeting.[/QUOTE]Or whatever hell a provider or pimp might try to rain down on you, even if you're single or don't value your privacy. Not to mention that what is going on is illegal. That's my opinion and it's worked for me for the past 20+ years.
Got a 22 yr old BBW Latina in a Cicero Motel. She new in the business and need clientele. Please inbox me for info if interested.
[QUOTE=LeChevalier;4681764]It depends on how often you do this and how much you like to spend. It's a stupid idea if you only meet up with a provider like twice per year. It also depends how much you value your privacy.
I've already given out personal info (full name and employer) to 2 different ones. I wish I could take it back now, could come back to bite me in the ass in the future even tho they were well-reviewed. Anyway, I still wouldn't spend money on P411, etc.[/QUOTE]I have commented on this many times over the years. Do have many, many others. But some need to learn the hard way. You are involved in an illegal activity. The people you are dealing with, including the girls, are involved with illegal activity. Many of these people have questionable character and morals. They are not out to please you. They are out to make money. They are not worried about you reporting them unless you wish to let the world know you were involved in illegal activity. So why, for God's sake, would you let anyone have your personal information? Are you that desperate for pussy?
I found out the hard way. I helped a poor crying girl and let her use my phone. I got a call from her handler every day for the next two weeks wondering when I was going to see her? How about calls and texts every day from the girl begging you to see her? How about a drug dealer or some other type of criminal finding out where you live? How about a girl or her handler blackmailing you and threatening to expose you to your wife and your employer? How many things have I left out? I don't care how much she says she loves you. I don't care how much the sex site promises to protect you. Keep your personal information to yourself.
I don't think I've got anything to add to that. Best advice in a single post.
[QUOTE=Ump1969;4688867]I have commented on this many times over the years. Do have many, many others. But some need to learn the hard way. You are involved in an illegal activity. The people you are dealing with, including the girls, are involved with illegal activity. Many of these people have questionable character and morals. They are not out to please you. They are out to make money. They are not worried about you reporting them unless you wish to let the world know you were involved in illegal activity. So why, for God's sake, would you let anyone have your personal information? Are you that desperate for pussy?
I found out the hard way. I helped a poor crying girl and let her use my phone. I got a call from her handler every day for the next two weeks wondering when I was going to see her? How about calls and texts every day from the girl begging you to see her? How about a drug dealer or some other type of criminal finding out where you live? How about a girl or her handler blackmailing you and threatening to expose you to your wife and your employer? How many things have I left out? I don't care how much she says she loves you. I don't care how much the sex site promises to protect you. Keep your personal information to yourself.[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree with you more, Ump1969.
My birthday is coming up, and I am looking to spoil myself this week. Looking at all the ads and agencies, I am curious on what you guys review and think on which girl is better.
Gia Venetia: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/7443440.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Derika Pucci- [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/9448506.htm[/URL].
Kandie Sweetbits: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/5525030.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Any input would help.
[QUOTE=Sagka;4689491]My birthday is coming up, and I am looking to spoil myself this week. Looking at all the ads and agencies, I am curious on what you guys review and think on which girl is better.
Gia Venetia: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/7443440.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Derika Pucci- [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/9448506.htm[/URL].
Kandie Sweetbits: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/5525030.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Any input would help.[/QUOTE]I've seen Derika prolly 2 yr ago. She is mid 30 s. Not bad service but a bit trashy for my taste. She will probably do anything for the right amount so if you have any fetishes you can try her out. I would personally not repeat.
I haven't seen Gia but had read that she is beautiful and classy and provides great service. The problem is that she quoted me 500 for 1 hr. It was an automated e. Maill and looks like she had gone from 400 to 500.
The 3rd one looks BBW.
I would've picked Gia for my b. Day if you can afford it and if you do so please report if it was worthed the price of admission.
[QUOTE=Sagka;4689491]My birthday is coming up, and I am looking to spoil myself this week. Looking at all the ads and agencies, I am curious on what you guys review and think on which girl is better.
Gia Venetia: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/7443440.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Derika Pucci- [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/9448506.htm[/URL].
Kandie Sweetbits: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/5525030.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Any input would help.[/QUOTE]I played with Gia off Tryst when her rate was easier on the wallet. Talk about a body built for pleasure and she knows it!!
She provided a very nice GFE type of experience and was really open to anything I wanted. It was so much fun to bury my face between her legs and munch away. I think she pre gamed before I got there because she was already a little wet. When I pulled back thinking someone had made a bareback deposit, she pulled me back in saying that it was her own juices and it wasn't long before she was even wetter and her clit popped up nice and proud. I lashed on that for quite a while.
After she caught her breathe, she covered me up and I slid right in. She has really good control of her v muscles and I didn't last very long. It was a really good time.
She made sure I got my whole time and was tender and affectionate throughout. That is important when you are in your 60's.
[QUOTE=Sagka;4689491]My birthday is coming up, and I am looking to spoil myself this week. Looking at all the ads and agencies, I am curious on what you guys review and think on which girl is better.
Gia Venetia: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/7443440.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Derika Pucci- [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/9448506.htm[/URL].
Kandie Sweetbits: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/5525030.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Any input would help.[/QUOTE]I saw Kandie probably ten years ago. Was a bbw back then. Very open to most anything. CIM. Did not try anal or uncovered full service. I do remember her being one of the nicest people I've met in the industry. I don't know how much as changed since.
Does anyone know of any good Swingers Clubs? I have a 22 year old FB who would like to partake but looking for a 40 ish and over crowd.
[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;4690534]Does anyone know of any good Swingers Clubs? I have a 22 year old FB who would like to partake but looking for a 40 ish and over crowd.[/QUOTE]Also interested in ones that accept unaccompanied males.
[QUOTE=JolieThornDog;4690658]Also interested in ones that accept unaccompanied males.[/QUOTE]Almost none of them. It is the best way to keep them from turning into sausage markets.
Hey guys. Anyone know if any of the downlow Latina crews are still around? They stopped answering at some point last year. They'd change location very often. Super secretive, make you go across the street. And could only get in through a referral. Always new girls every 1-2 weeks.
Wondering if they're still around. Might do some looking around. Trying to get their new number.
[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;4690534]Does anyone know of any good Swingers Clubs? I have a 22 year old FB who would like to partake but looking for a 40 ish and over crowd.[/QUOTE]It's almost always a 40 is (and them some) crowd.
Saw Derika. She's nice enough, but her boobs are so fake they are distracting. Like I was staring at them and not in a good way. She's more PSE than GFE, and it all felt like she's been doing it for too long. She does BBFS, which is nice, but she still didn't do it for me.
[QUOTE=Sagka;4689491]My birthday is coming up, and I am looking to spoil myself this week. Looking at all the ads and agencies, I am curious on what you guys review and think on which girl is better.
Gia Venetia: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/7443440.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Derika Pucci- [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/9448506.htm[/URL].
Kandie Sweetbits: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/5525030.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Any input would help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Sagka;4689491]My birthday is coming up, and I am looking to spoil myself this week. Looking at all the ads and agencies, I am curious on what you guys review and think on which girl is better.
Gia Venetia: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/7443440.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Derika Pucci- [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/9448506.htm[/URL].
Kandie Sweetbits: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/5525030.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Any input would help.[/QUOTE]I saw Kandi about 10 years ago and she was awesome then. She came back on the scene late last year, and I saw her again and the experience was just as good; this girl gives a killer bbbjsw that I dreamed about for years and got to repeat finally. Yes, she's a bbw. But, she has a beautiful smile, great kisser, CG, DATY and finished me with a swallow that just about stopped my heart. Her personality is wonderful as well, friendly, fun and sweet. I'm definitely going to see her regularly when I can.
[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;4690534]Does anyone know of any good Swingers Clubs? I have a 22 year old FB who would like to partake but looking for a 40 ish and over crowd.[/QUOTE]Give this place a try [URL]https://coupleschoice.com/[/URL].
[QUOTE=Oramo;4690709]It's almost always a 40 is (and them some) crowd.[/QUOTE[URL]LifestyleLounge.com[/URL] is a good place with a lot of events. I been to few many years ago and it was fun.
[QUOTE=ChgoGuySouth;4690534]Does anyone know of any good Swingers Clubs? I have a 22 year old FB who would like to partake but looking for a 40 ish and over crowd.[/QUOTE]Hey ChgoGuySouth. Is your girl looking for a mixed crowd, male and female? Maybe we can set up a couples party. Or a GB with guys, if she's down for something like that. Both can be fun.
[QUOTE=Sagka;4689491]My birthday is coming up, and I am looking to spoil myself this week. Looking at all the ads and agencies, I am curious on what you guys review and think on which girl is better.
Gia Venetia: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/7443440.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Derika Pucci- [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/9448506.htm[/URL].
Kandie Sweetbits: [URL]https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/5525030.htm?cat=1[/URL].
Any input would help.[/QUOTE]I saw Kandie last fall and not only does that woman love to suck cock, she is damned good at it. For at least half an hour she was nestled between my legs just sucking and licking and sucking. She really knows to suck without getting you worked up so that you have to cum immediately, but when you are ready to blow she can make it happen in a blink of an eye (pun intended).
[QUOTE=StanKost;4679868]Unfortunately she is getting emotional about "us" which is great for sex but I feel bad for her cause I don't see this going for a long time.[/QUOTE]Thats an Issue with BBW's. Generally speaking, they don't get much attention, and action. You probably gave her the fuk of her life. LOL Now, she got stars in her eyes. You turned a BBW into a Klingon. LOL.
Any ideas or recommendations on what to tell a girl who doesn't want to meet up because she now has a boyfriend?
I've known her and have had sex with her off and on for about 4 years. She's broke and says she needs help, but doesn't want to meet. Of course! Haha.
Just wondering if any of you guys have any magic words or phrases to try on this chick. She's ridiculously hot, I'd love to see her again. But don't want to sweat too much either.
[QUOTE=MrCharmo;4700036]Any ideas or recommendations on what to tell a girl who doesn't want to meet up because she now has a boyfriend?
I've known her and have had sex with her off and on for about 4 years. She's broke and says she needs help, but doesn't want to meet. Of course! Haha.
Just wondering if any of you guys have any magic words or phrases to try on this chick. She's ridiculously hot, I'd love to see her again. But don't want to sweat too much either.[/QUOTE]Just be patient. Keep checking in.
[QUOTE=Buckeyebrent;4700041]Just be patient. Keep checking in.[/QUOTE]Yeah, I've slept with this girl off and on for 4 years. Sometimes fades but comes back. But last time she said that was it, no more. And she's been pretty hard on a solid NO to sex. She can be a pain in the ass, but she's smoking hot. One of the best bodies I've ever had pleasure of running into.
I won't sweat it. We'll just see if it's in the cards.
Any intel on Will from Lux models with his pimping and money laundering charges?
Would like to see how it plays out especially if Marcus from MCE is involved.
[QUOTE=MrCharmo;4700131]Yeah, I've slept with this girl off and on for 4 years. Sometimes fades but comes back. But last time she said that was it, no more. And she's been pretty hard on a solid NO to sex. She can be a pain in the ass, but she's smoking hot. One of the best bodies I've ever had pleasure of running into.
I won't sweat it. We'll just see if it's in the cards.[/QUOTE]Several years ago I was doing a 19 yr old off SA. She was scared the first time we met but then really enjoyed our times together. She told me that her fiance was a quick shooter. I being an old fart was the opposite. We'd meet about every two or three weeks so she sets a wedding date and she wanted to see me on the thurs before the Saturday wedding. She rode me like she was in the derby. Then says I can't see you anymore as I am getting married. So for about six months I would just send her quick messages to say hi and shit like that. After six months she reaches out and says she needs some of my special loving. After two hours of sex she says that sex with hubby is nowhere as good as with me so she's decided that its ok to see me on occasion. Six months later she divorces him. Three months later she relocates away. About a year later she is in town to visit family and wants to get her oil changed. She tells me she is engaged to some new guy in her new town. Did her a few more times then she just doesn't come back anymore.
So when the newness of the relationship wanes, which it likely will, you might get another chance.
Randolph.
[QUOTE=Randolph;4701327]Several years ago I was doing a 19 yr old off SA. She was scared the first time we met but then really enjoyed our times together. She told me that her fiance was a quick shooter. I being an old fart was the opposite. We'd meet about every two or three weeks so she sets a wedding date and she wanted to see me on the thurs before the Saturday wedding. She rode me like she was in the derby. Then says I can't see you anymore as I am getting married. So for about six months I would just send her quick messages to say hi and shit like that. After six months she reaches out and says she needs some of my special loving. After two hours of sex she says that sex with hubby is nowhere as good as with me so she's decided that its ok to see me on occasion. Six months later she divorces him. Three months later she relocates away. About a year later she is in town to visit family and wants to get her oil changed. She tells me she is engaged to some new guy in her new town. Did her a few more times then she just doesn't come back anymore.
So when the newness of the relationship wanes, which it likely will, you might get another chance.
Randolph.[/QUOTE] definitely noticed that timing is everything
Would be nice to hit it again, but I won't hold my breath hoping. I'll be back in the hobby soon, so there will be new friends to meet
Just read a report that escorts' business in Seattle area have been hit with the coronavirus cases. If the virus hits a wave nationally or in the Chicago area, we might experience the same thing. I'd expect there might be a spike of Covid19 in the next couple Of weeks, based on some reporting.
Might be a good time to take advantage of good deals, while supporting the industry. And of course, trying to be as safe as we can under the circumstances.
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