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[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;3025415]I would venture to say most of us have a significant other or are married. Yesterday my wife and I went to a restaurant. Across the room was a waitress that looked familiar. Then my heart sunk as it turned out to be a former ATF. I haven't seen her since the first of the year and I knew for sure she would recognize me. Thankfully she wasn't our waitress and she either didn't see me or at least didn't acknowledge it. Has this ever happened to you guys and if so how did you handle it?[/QUOTE]A few years ago entering a nice place with the significant other and opening the door for her ran right into the girl who had provided some great afternoon fun. Other than the twinkle in her eye, she didn't react but I'm sure I turned very red. I also can't bluff in poker and fortunately the other didn't seem to notice my discomfort. I think in most situations respect for the other's space and life will be returned.

Of course if she had been my server I'd have choked when she asked me what I wanted from the menu (since I already had tried everything on her menu earlier)

[QUOTE=BestBuddy;3025437]A few years ago entering a nice place with the significant other and opening the door for her ran right into the girl who had provided some great afternoon fun. Other than the twinkle in her eye, she didn't react but I'm sure I turned very red. I also can't bluff in poker and fortunately the other didn't seem to notice my discomfort. I think in most situations respect for the other's space and life will be returned.

Of course if she had been my server I'd have choked when she asked me what I wanted from the menu (since I already had tried everything on her menu earlier)[/QUOTE]I ran into Italliana about 3 months after she retired. She walked past and I winked and she smiled. That's all you got to' do. Just keep your cool if you're with your significant other.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;3025415]Across the room was a waitress that looked familiar.[/QUOTE]Everyone keeps a wall between regular life and party life. If you can, keep the parties as far away from regular life as possible. Can't take a "business trip" across the country? I'd try to spend an afternoon across the river in Clarksville, or a "sick day" trip to Lexington. Maybe I'm too paranoid?

Still, it'd be kinda hot to run in to an ATF out on the street.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;3025415]I would venture to say most of us have a significant other or are married. Yesterday my wife and I went to a restaurant. Across the room was a waitress that looked familiar. Then my heart sunk as it turned out to be a former ATF. I haven't seen her since the first of the year and I knew for sure she would recognize me. Thankfully she wasn't our waitress and she either didn't see me or at least didn't acknowledge it. Has this ever happened to you guys and if so how did you handle it?[/QUOTE]I was out with my significant other having dinner and seated directly behind was a provider I had seen numerous times. With her family. I don't know if she saw me but I sat with my back to her; it was not my most comfortable evening.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;3025415]I would venture to say most of us have a significant other or are married. Yesterday my wife and I went to a restaurant. Across the room was a waitress that looked familiar. Then my heart sunk as it turned out to be a former ATF. I haven't seen her since the first of the year and I knew for sure she would recognize me. Thankfully she wasn't our waitress and she either didn't see me or at least didn't acknowledge it. Has this ever happened to you guys and if so how did you handle it?[/QUOTE]It happens. I had a BR gal deliver a pizza to my place once. It took us both a few seconds to connect the dots, but we figured it out at the same same. I was alone at the time, but since she didn't know she just winked and went on her way. I've seen Randi out plenty of times and we don't even acknowledge each other. I'm mainly see a few SBs now, so it's a bit different. My rule when I see one is to play it cool and not acknowledge her. She may be with family or friends and wouldn't want to have to explain any more than we would. Hopefully the professional ones would do us the same courtesy.

[QUOTE=Golf9979;3025950]It happens. I had a BR gal deliver a pizza to my place once. It took us both a few seconds to connect the dots, but we figured it out at the same same. I was alone at the time, but since she didn't know she just winked and went on her way. I've seen Randi out plenty of times and we don't even acknowledge each other. I'm mainly see a few SBs now, so it's a bit different. My rule when I see one is to play it cool and not acknowledge her. She may be with family or friends and wouldn't want to have to explain any more than we would. Hopefully the professional ones would do us the same courtesy.[/QUOTE]I still remember the time I went to one of my favorite buffets and the hostess was a dancer from a club I spent a lot of time at. Of course I was her DJ at the time, so we had a few good laughs over that one.

Get This Guys. I went to the airport with my SO a few years back to pick up her daughter. One on my ATF whom I saw probably a week or two before was also waiting at the gate with another guy. We exchanged glances and I thought that would be it. Our secret was safe. Awe no, not for a minute. My SO reconngized the guy as a co-worker. Being a woman, of course she had to wander over to talk. Got the introductions and he introduced my ATF as his fiance. Holy S**T batman. Well, this guy was hugh, a body-builder or pro-football player size. I began wishing I had a cyanide capsule for I thought I was going to die so I might as well do it myself. You talk about the tightening of the A-hole. Mine squeezed so thight I almost pissed myself. Anyway, things went smoothly, my SO met her daughter and my ATF her little sister. Never had the balls or brains to see her again. She nolonger posted ads and I assume she is happy and married. I hope so anyway.

Oh well, live and learn. DnC.

[QUOTE=DickensCider;3030184]Get This Guys. I went to the airport with my SO a few years back to pick up her daughter. One on my ATF whom I saw probably a week or two before was also waiting at the gate with another guy. We exchanged glances and I thought that would be it. Our secret was safe. Awe no, not for a minute. My SO reconngized the guy as a co-worker. Being a woman, of course she had to wander over to talk. Got the introductions and he introduced my ATF as his fiance. Holy S**T batman. Well, this guy was hugh, a body-builder or pro-football player size. I began wishing I had a cyanide capsule for I thought I was going to die so I might as well do it myself. You talk about the tightening of the A-hole. Mine squeezed so thight I almost pissed myself. Anyway, things went smoothly, my SO met her daughter and my ATF her little sister. Never had the balls or brains to see her again. She nolonger posted ads and I assume she is happy and married. I hope so anyway.

Oh well, live and learn. DnC.[/QUOTE]What you should have said is: "Well nice to meet you co-worker of SO. I fucked the shit out of your fiancé just last Thursday. BTW, has your 'roid-shrunk dick ever made her squirt? She can really put it out there!

I had an amazing weekend with a girl who's going semi-UTR. I was real lucky for the experience, but she asked me to NOT write a review (because of aforementioned UTR-ness). Sorry.

I've got a question for my fellow mongers. How do YOU find girls who are UTR? Suggestions?

[QUOTE=GolongHorns;3030978]I've got a question for my fellow mongers. How do YOU find girls who are UTR? Suggestions?[/QUOTE]I'd like to hear some tips on this too.

[QUOTE=GolongHorns;3030978]I had an amazing weekend with a girl who's going semi-UTR. I was real lucky for the experience, but she asked me to NOT write a review (because of aforementioned UTR-ness). Sorry.

I've got a question for my fellow mongers. How do YOU find girls who are UTR? Suggestions?[/QUOTE]My only experiences with UTR were like this; first one was a UTR that I cultivated. The second was an ATF that retired publicly (no more ads- just sticking with her regulars).

The girl that started with me was a gorgeous stripper with the best body of all the girls I've seen in the hobby. I was a regular of hers at PT's and asked her a couple of times if she'd like to meet elsewhere. She eventually agreed to have some fun and make some extra cash. Unfortunately she is no longer an option. She's the measuring stick that I hold everyone else up to. But I digress. That tactic of getting familiar at the club and then meeting discretely worked for me.

I suppose you could also connect with people who seem to know a good amount of UTR girls. Just follow the forums for a feel for that. I don't want to throw anyone's name out there if they don't want me to.

[QUOTE=GolongHorns;3030978]I had an amazing weekend with a girl who's going semi-UTR. I was real lucky for the experience, but she asked me to NOT write a review (because of aforementioned UTR-ness). Sorry.

I've got a question for my fellow mongers. How do YOU find girls who are UTR? Suggestions?[/QUOTE]I've found the strip clubs to be the best option. I go to them not to play in the club, but to find the ones that are willing to meet outside. I don't spend much: I buy an occasional $20 or $22 cocktail, tip the bartender well, and tuck a few bucks for the dancers. Most bartenders will allow you to buy shots for the girls at regular price. Once the girls are comfortable with you, it's easy to at least get phone numbers.

Over the years, I've played with quite a few bartenders and dancers. Some I've paid a set price, some were varying prices, others were FWB with no money changing hands. The FWB were more a dating situation.

Anyway, I've found this a much better and cheaper option than going the Backpage route. And this would be why you see very few reviews from me. LOL

[QUOTE=Legslover;3032961]I've found the strip clubs to be the best option. I go to them not to play in the club, but to find the ones that are willing to meet outside. I don't spend much: I buy an occasional $20 or $22 cocktail, tip the bartender well, and tuck a few bucks for the dancers. Most bartenders will allow you to buy shots for the girls at regular price. Once the girls are comfortable with you, it's easy to at least get phone numbers.

Over the years, I've played with quite a few bartenders and dancers. Some I've paid a set price, some were varying prices, others were FWB with no money changing hands. The FWB were more a dating situation.

Anyway, I've found this a much better and cheaper option than going the Backpage route. And this would be why you see very few reviews from me. LOL[/QUOTE]But how many guys have the time, interest, or indiscretion to work a strip Joint? I'm guessing not many when you call make a call or text much faster and discretely even if you do get disappointed occasionally. As always YMMV and rtff.

[QUOTE=GolongHorns;3030978]I had an amazing weekend with a girl who's going semi-UTR. I was real lucky for the experience, but she asked me to NOT write a review (because of aforementioned UTR-ness). Sorry.

I've got a question for my fellow mongers. How do YOU find girls who are UTR? Suggestions?[/QUOTE]I used to have decent success with UTRs on [URL]Tagged.com[/URL] site as recently as 2 years back. Lots of semi pros and non pros on there that if you were willing to put in a few back and forth messages with. When I say decent I mean 1 of out 10 girls contacted would reply back and maybe 1 out of 5 o those would actually meet. So you had to get a lot of at bats to have get some actual real time meetups. In the last 2 years they've made it a lot harder for guys to contact random girls especially if they are getting a lot of messages. Saw more than a couple of girls "graduate" from there to BP as well too.

S. A. And other sugar daddy sites are by definition a plate to meet UTRs if you're willing to pay for the convenience.

I have three. Well actually narrowing it down to one because she doesn't charge. The other two call when the tire is flat, cable is turned off, etc. All are ex providers who, have gotten real jobs. All are clean and no drugs. The free one went to rehab and cleaned up. The other two never had a habit. The free one calls about every two, weeks and says she wants to fuck. Only cost is a cheap, room at the Manor. Between the three I stay pretty satisfied and it is easier on the wallet and no risks.

[QUOTE=GolongHorns;3030978]I had an amazing weekend with a girl who's going semi-UTR. I was real lucky for the experience, but she asked me to NOT write a review (because of aforementioned UTR-ness). Sorry.

I've got a question for my fellow mongers. How do YOU find girls who are UTR? Suggestions?[/QUOTE]My UTR girl is a former provider. Saw her 3 or 4 times but she talked about getting out of the business. I stayed in touch through texts from time to time. She would always call me when she needed money. Phone bill due, car battery dead etc. I think at first she cost me more money per BBBJ than a normal provider. But now it costs me less. I get FS and other things, she still needs helpwith money but t I favors at less than the going rate. I just had a feel for this girl right from the start that this was possible. It took some time and some initial investment but well worth it now.

[QUOTE=TenSevenCs;3034372]My UTR girl is a former provider. Saw her 3 or 4 times but she talked about getting out of the business. I stayed in touch through texts from time to time. She would always call me when she needed money. Phone bill due, car battery dead etc. I think at first she cost me more money per BBBJ than a normal provider. But now it costs me less. I get FS and other things, she still needs helpwith money but t I favors at less than the going rate. I just had a feel for this girl right from the start that this was possible. It took some time and some initial investment but well worth it now.[/QUOTE]That's usually how it goes. There isn't an advertisement site for UTR. Then they wouldn't be UTR. Usually it's a provider that "retired" but needs help from time to time. One hand washes the other. I have one now that's been well worth the investment and wait. Taking your time and treating a good girl with respect can move to a new level. It's doesn't always work out but it's worth trying.

[QUOTE=TenSevenCs;3034372]My UTR girl is a former provider. Saw her 3 or 4 times but she talked about getting out of the business. I stayed in touch through texts from time to time. She would always call me when she needed money. Phone bill due, car battery dead etc. I think at first she cost me more money per BBBJ than a normal provider. But now it costs me less. I get FS and other things, she still needs helpwith money but t I favors at less than the going rate. I just had a feel for this girl right from the start that this was possible. It took some time and some initial investment but well worth it now.[/QUOTE]I've had a few similar situations and they did not end well. I have heard of exceptions but most end like mine. Ugly! They lead you on to make you think they need / want you. Usually they just want to use you until they are ready to move on. You will find yourself wondering how you ever thought there was something special there.

[QUOTE=ChipJeep;3035397]I've had a few similar situations and they did not end well. I have heard of exceptions but most end like mine. Ugly! They lead you on to make you think they need / want you. Usually they just want to use you until they are ready to move on. You will find yourself wondering how you ever thought there was something special there.[/QUOTE]That's been my experience too. Play the game, don't get played. They're hookers!! Fun to fuck but think with your big head.

[QUOTE=Golf9979;3025950]It happens. I had a BR gal deliver a pizza to my place once. It took us both a few seconds to connect the dots, but we figured it out at the same same. I was alone at the time, but since she didn't know she just winked and went on her way. I've seen Randi out plenty of times and we don't even acknowledge each other. I'm mainly see a few SBs now, so it's a bit different. My rule when I see one is to play it cool and not acknowledge her. She may be with family or friends and wouldn't want to have to explain any more than we would. Hopefully the professional ones would do us the same courtesy.[/QUOTE]Yup. I ran into a favorite of mine from when I first started to get into the hobby (around 2006), back in 2011. I needed some goods and went into a shop in M-Town and there was one of my favorites from one of the 7th Street clubs. She was cool and even gave me a little bit of a discount on my goods. But she was always hella cool at the club. She smiled coyly and I smiled puzzled, like I didn't recognize her, but I did. I wanted to say more, but I didn't. I'll always remember the old heavy bartender yelling at her about time, because I made her forget, hehehe, Jokes about seeing each other with the lights on and breaking the jukebox, hehehehe. Yup, good times. Yup, it happens.

[QUOTE=ChipJeep;3035397]I've had a few similar situations and they did not end well. I have heard of exceptions but most end like mine. Ugly! They lead you on to make you think they need / want you. Usually they just want to use you until they are ready to move on. You will find yourself wondering how you ever thought there was something special there.[/QUOTE]Why not just go get a real GF and pay her bills no need to worry about the street life of these hoes. Cause every last one of them are.

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[QUOTE=Rubtugjon;3035509]That's been my experience too. Play the game, don't get played. They're hookers!! Fun to fuck but think with your big head.[/QUOTE]You have it exactly right. About a year ago I almost made a very big mistake. I had been seeing a girl consistently for about three years. We both had a lot of fun laughs and enjoy each other's company very much. She did very little advertising and mostly just for the purpose of her regulars. All I had to do was send her a text that said hey and she was asking when I wanted to come over. If I would say her name on here most of you know her and that she would not return calls or text to new guys. Several of you guys got frustrated trying to get your foot in the door with her. I began to think with the wrong head and was just getting ready to make another step. Then it turns out she had a boyfriend. It got kind of nasty for a while and I thought I was going to lose everything. It turned out fine for me but not so well for her. I have talk to her just a couple of times since the first of the year and did see her back in the winter but that has been it. Outside of the hobby I saw her last week at a restaurant but I don't think she saw me. It brought back to many memories. Sometimes I think I would like to see her just one more time but I am sure that would just suck me down a well So the point is be smart.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;3035644]You have it exactly right. About a year ago I almost made a very big mistake. I had been seeing a girl consistently for about three years. We both had a lot of fun laughs and enjoy each other's company very much. She did very little advertising and mostly just for the purpose of her regulars. All I had to do was send her a text that said hey and she was asking when I wanted to come over. If I would say her name on here most of you know her and that she would not return calls or text to new guys. Several of you guys got frustrated trying to get your foot in the door with her. I began to think with the wrong head and was just getting ready to make another step. Then it turns out she had a boyfriend. It got kind of nasty for a while and I thought I was going to lose everything. It turned out fine for me but not so well for her. I have talk to her just a couple of times since the first of the year and did see her back in the winter but that has been it. Outside of the hobby I saw her last week at a restaurant but I don't think she saw me. It brought back to many memories. Sometimes I think I would like to see her just one more time but I am sure that would just suck me down a well So the point is be smart.[/QUOTE]"see her one more time" is like just one drink or. You are right, be smart. Most of them have a bf or gf, SD, and they are looking for Ben (several of them).

[QUOTE=DarkSideOfMe;3025374]I must say I do a lot of traveling, Lville has the highest prices for providers I have seen in a long time. I have to laugh when they want $2,300 for their time, I'd like to make that kind of money (cash) for what maybe (15 minutes of real work! I guess like the old man once told me," Pussy is a powerful $$ little patch". Drk.[/QUOTE]Maybe I've been fishing in a small pond. I travel and Louisville isn't out of line with many other locales. I've found that Nashville is pricey compared to our market but it just takes research as well as thinking with the big head to find quality services from friendly natives. Oh and if you are willing to spend $2,300 for a visit I'll put on my makeup, shave the hair off my back, wear a black dress and stockings and come over this afternoon <just kidding maybe .

[QUOTE=BestBuddy;3035839]Maybe I've been fishing in a small pond. I travel and Louisville isn't out of line with many other locales. I've found that Nashville is pricey compared to our market but it just takes research as well as thinking with the big head to find quality services from friendly natives. Oh and if you are willing to spend $2,300 for a visit I'll put on my makeup, shave the hair off my back, wear a black dress and stockings and come over this afternoon <just kidding maybe .[/QUOTE]Problem with Louisville prices is their are no pro sports here whatsoever Nashville, Cincy, Indy even traveling West their are pro teams their money base is so much more than ours. But to each is own in this hobby though! Happy trails.

Hey, been away from it all for far too long, would love to get back in touch with Faith, If you could Faith pm me your contact info.

[QUOTE=BestBuddy;3035839]Maybe I've been fishing in a small pond. I travel and Louisville isn't out of line with many other locales. I've found that Nashville is pricey compared to our market but it just takes research as well as thinking with the big head to find quality services from friendly natives. Oh and if you are willing to spend $2,300 for a visit I'll put on my makeup, shave the hair off my back, wear a black dress and stockings and come over this afternoon <just kidding maybe .[/QUOTE]The service in Nashville is much better and not that pricey.

Many years in the hobby and just had a few thoughts and see if any advice or others had thoughts or suggestions to find good providers. Pretty much the last year or so have pretty much stayed away from the escort ads on BP as I feel 90% of the pics are fake. Even the real ones, at least in my case, are extremely hard to schedule with. The good ones I have found in the past have now gone. Have only made a few attempts recently with a couple well reviewed providers, one with no response at all and another who responds a day later. I hobby maybe 3-4 times a month, + or minus depending. The effort and time spent is the escort area is more time than I have. That being said, I seem to have much better luck with the BR section of BP. Pics, although sometimes old, seem to be more on target, 50% or better. And the majority of the time seem to answer and respond to calls and text. Although some have not been the best and session lacking, less damage to fun fund account. I have met several more what I believe quality providers and once we've met, gone on to more after and even got numbers and met outside of there normal studio locations, some of them even saying they don't normally do that, but who knows and I don't care. Problems is none seem to be long term, seems like once I think I've found the perfect one, they drop off radar and # no longer works. Although I think part of it for me is the thrill of the hunt, just wish I had more time. Amyone else have any thoughts? Thanks.

HC.

[QUOTE=HoosierCream;3051027]Many years in the hobby and just had a few thoughts and see if any advice or others had thoughts or suggestions to find good providers. Pretty much the last year or so have pretty much stayed away from the escort ads on BP as I feel 90% of the pics are fake. Even the real ones, at least in my case, are extremely hard to schedule with. The good ones I have found in the past have now gone. Have only made a few attempts recently with a couple well reviewed providers, one with no response at all and another who responds a day later. I hobby maybe 3-4 times a month, + or minus depending. The effort and time spent is the escort area is more time than I have. That being said, I seem to have much better luck with the BR section of BP. Pics, although sometimes old, seem to be more on target, 50% or better. And the majority of the time seem to answer and respond to calls and text. Although some have not been the best and session lacking, less damage to fun fund account. I have met several more what I believe quality providers and once we've met, gone on to more after and even got numbers and met outside of there normal studio locations, some of them even saying they don't normally do that, but who knows and I don't care. Problems is none seem to be long term, seems like once I think I've found the perfect one, they drop off radar and # no longer works. Although I think part of it for me is the thrill of the hunt, just wish I had more time. Amyone else have any thoughts? Thanks.

HC.[/QUOTE]I have 1 major rule. One absolute iron-clad law. She must have a contact number. No number, no contact. I will not email or msg on a website because that is how we get shunted into the subscription scam racket.

Found out on accident today she passed. Don't know anything more than that.

[QUOTE=Coloice;3054989]Found out on accident today she passed. Don't know anything more than that.[/QUOTE]Damn, that's two in approx a month.

[QUOTE=Joelouky;3055037]Damn, that's two in approx a month.[/QUOTE]The one who was murdered July 12, Goddess Hailey on July 16 and now JR.

[QUOTE=Coloice;3054989]Found out on accident today she passed. Don't know anything more than that.[/QUOTE]According to her obit and some comments on the funeral home site, she must have really straightened herself up. Comments seem to say she was engaged and attended church regularly.

I sure would like to know how she passed.

Is there any way to just guess regular monger / provider ratio in this city?

How it compares it to other cities?

Feel free to chime in guys.

My guess is high number of mongers and very few providers. Like 10:1 ratio.

[QUOTE=Jsmw1980;3055449]According to her obit and some comments on the funeral home site, she must have really straightened herself up. Comments seem to say she was engaged and attended church regularly.

I sure would like to know how she passed.[/QUOTE]Man her ass was a wide load. If someone ever told her to haul ass, she'd have to make two trips! She may have cleaned up, but just takes one relapse, and that's usually when the OD happens. I'll never understand the lure of drugs, of wanting to hide from reality and escape life. I just don't get it, taking something you know will kill you.

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[QUOTE=Cooperman;3055058]The one who was murdered July 12, Goddess Hailey on July 16 and now JR.[/QUOTE]I had not heard about Goddess Hailey, shit. I had her on FB a few months back but didn't realize she had defriended me. Yeah the July 12th I can't remember the name she went by, but I am pretty sure I saw her a few years back.

One in July 12 was Ashley not sure what her provider name was. She was from new albany

[QUOTE=Coloice;3056097]I had not heard about Goddess Hailey, shit. I had her on FB a few months back but didn't realize she had defriended me. Yeah the July 12th I can't remember the name she went by, but I am pretty sure I saw her a few years back.[/QUOTE].

[QUOTE=LuvR2015;3055531]Is there any way to just guess regular monger / provider ratio in this city?

How it compares it to other cities?

Feel free to chime in guys.

My guess is high number of mongers and very few providers. Like 10:1 ratio.[/QUOTE]For the quality providers, I'll bet is more like 25:1 or 50:1. Hell, it's harder than hitting a trifecta to secure a regular rotation spot with some of the best. In fact, many are UTR and likely to stay that way. I. e. Take for example that "false LEO alarm" on the review thread yesterday. She's top tier with ultra-low profile and uber discriminating--but fantastically divine. Great question to pose, luvr2015. Inquiring minds want to know.