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[QUOTE=SlappySlap0;7345228]Stopped by Lucky sunshine in southern again, this time for 4 hands. . 6 x 2 for the house fee since I booked an hour with Ella and Suzy. Suzy is definitely the more outgoing one and freakier one. Great body on her. Mid 20's I guess? Backwalking, stretching, teasing, flip, tops off, roaming, finish. Suzy is super vocal. Talks dirty. It was honestly one of the best massages I've ever had mongering and I've probably done at least 50 sessions easy. Closer to 100 if not more. BBJ is on the menu but for extra. Ella's tits are also ju saws.[/QUOTE]Ju Saws? What the hell does that mean? LOL.
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Eva Spa on 46th
My last report was of a non-teasing, non sensual massage at another spa. This one was totally opposite. During the first 10 minutes of my hour long, she started teasing. Long strokes on my back, with her fingers repeatedly slipping into my butt crack. Repeatedly grazing the boys while working on my legs. And on the flip, no negotiation as she worked my stomach and upper legs, then played with my balls for a good five minutes before she even touched the shaft. Hollee fuck, talk about working a guy up. Lots of slow stroking while she lightly tugged my balls. Excellent finish. Thing is, I can tell she has some serious massage skills. Since none of you jackoffs would share a report with me I TOFT to see what's up. Gave her a 40 tip, which she was very appreciative for. Treat her nice guys, she seems very sweet. (BTW, probably 40, thin, nice looking but not wow or anything).
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Price Point?
[QUOTE=Captgol;7348215]What's the price point of 317 and others and where are these nonamp places. They seem rare and I haven't seen a good one in a long time.[/QUOTE]You're comparing apples and oranges.
317's price point is completely immaterial. They are totally legit in terms of delivery. They like to tease, and their advertising is complete bait-and-switch. You will NOT be getting any touching of the balls, or even close to a HJ at 317. Mandie watches them like a hawk, and she and her husband watch this site as well. The moment they catch on to any of their girls crossing the line, they're gone.
I'm not sure if it applies to all of them, but some of them will let you Self Serve while they continue rubbing. You might get a peak up a shirt, or an OTC ass grab while you're taking care of yourself, but that's it.
So I'd say their price point doesn't matter unless you enjoy paying for blue balls.
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[QUOTE=ServiceSeeker;7349588]You're comparing apples and oranges.
317's price point is completely immaterial. They are totally legit in terms of delivery. They like to tease, and their advertising is complete bait-and-switch. You will NOT be getting any touching of the balls, or even close to a HJ at 317. Mandie watches them like a hawk, and she and her husband watch this site as well. The moment they catch on to any of their girls crossing the line, they're gone.
I'm not sure if it applies to all of them, but some of them will let you Self Serve while they continue rubbing. You might get a peak up a shirt, or an OTC ass grab while you're taking care of yourself, but that's it.
So I'd say their price point doesn't matter unless you enjoy paying for blue balls.[/QUOTE]It's Brandee not Mandie. I personally have gotten extras from Tashina. She has been mentioned here by more than one member who says they have gotten extras and she is still there. For the most part your right about not getting anything extra. I say that from my experiences there. I have been told that Jeff has tried to hookup with more than one of the girls with Brandees permission. One of the new girls, Denise is on a swingers website.
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[QUOTE=Jefrob1960;7349605]It's Brandee not Mandie. I personally have gotten extras from Tashina. She has been mentioned here by more than one member who says they have gotten extras and she is still there. For the most part your right about not getting anything extra. I say that from my experiences there. I have been told that Jeff has tried to hookup with more than one of the girls with Brandees permission. One of the new girls, Denise is on a swingers website.[/QUOTE]Yes, Sorry, Brandee. No disrespect intended at all, just moving too quickly.
I don't doubt you're claims. You've been around. All the searching on this post I did yielded no information like that for 317, so I can only go on my personal experience, which indicated to me finding an L1 in there could be a costly endeavor of hit-and-miss until I happened to get lucky.
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[QUOTE=ServiceSeeker;7349633]Yes, Sorry, Brandee. No disrespect intended at all, just moving too quickly.
I don't doubt you're claims. You've been around. All the searching on this post I did yielded no information like that for 317, so I can only go on my personal experience, which indicated to me finding an L1 in there could be a costly endeavor of hit-and-miss until I happened to get lucky.[/QUOTE]I will add that I do not like Jeff at all. He will talk with you and agree with you feeding you a load of bullshit. He has an ad on a gay massage site. He brings his clients to 317. They fired Lisa for advertising on another site and bringing them to 317. Jeff even tried to get one of the girls to do a 4 hand on a male client and told her he wanted to have a threesome at 317. I no longer go there because of Tashina, Brandee, and Jeff.
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Summer Hours?
Anyone else noticing the Michigan road spas opening later than normal. I was in the area at about 1030 pm and noticed lights on and asking for trouble.
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Anna 317
[QUOTE=Jefrob1960;7348453]I was told Anna's last day at 317 was Friday. Looked at the website and her pic was removed. I was told she was opening her own place somewhere in fishers.[/QUOTE]I talked to her yesterday after reading this. She said she's going to work for her dad, not open a new shop.
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Bait and switch?
[QUOTE=ServiceSeeker;7349588]You're comparing apples and oranges.
317's price point is completely immaterial. They are totally legit in terms of delivery. They like to tease, and their advertising is complete bait-and-switch. You will NOT be getting any touching of the balls, or even close to a HJ at 317. Mandie watches them like a hawk, and she and her husband watch this site as well. The moment they catch on to any of their girls crossing the line, they're gone.
I'm not sure if it applies to all of them, but some of them will let you Self Serve while they continue rubbing. You might get a peak up a shirt, or an OTC ass grab while you're taking care of yourself, but that's it.
So I'd say their price point doesn't matter unless you enjoy paying for blue balls.[/QUOTE]It's not bait and switch. You get exactly the girl in the picture. And you get exactly what is advertised. (Some people may get a bit more).
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[QUOTE=JhnSmth;7349919]I talked to her yesterday after reading this. She said she's going to work for her dad, not open a new shop.[/QUOTE]Thank you for the info.
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Sweets
Stopped by Arby's yesterday. Had not been there in years. MT that answered the door was mid 40's, a bit on the heavy side. I decided to ask who else was there. She yelled back, two girls came around the corner. The place had a strong smell of food cooking which was a little turn off. Anyways, the first one around the corner look like a 2 on the AMP scale and overweight as well. The second came around and looked much better, maybe a 6. Went for the hh 30 damage handed her $ and she came back with change. Massage was actually really good. MT Spent time on back and both legs with no tease. Medium to hard pressure with oil. On the flip, she gave the FS signal, after giving a second look I decided to go with just a standard finish. Gave her the change. Tried to take off her top off which was difficult and she was very reluctant. She actually acted as if I was hurting her. Eventually, she did take down one side, not both. Yeah it was not good, probably will not return. All in $.
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I believe it
[QUOTE=Jjbee62;7347530]YMMV, but it is possible to get her to the point where she isn't acting.[/QUOTE]Towards the end she was getting more into it but I didn't last long enough LOL. She told me she likes being eaten out and I'm sure that would help, but I can't bring myself to lick where I know 20 dicks have been that day alone. To each their own though, no shade at anyone who does LOL.
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[QUOTE=Jefrob1960;7349666]I will add that I do not like Jeff at all. He will talk with you and agree with you feeding you a load of bullshit. He has an ad on a gay massage site. He brings his clients to 317. They fired Lisa for advertising on another site and bringing them to 317. Jeff even tried to get one of the girls to do a 4 hand on a male client and told her he wanted to have a threesome at 317. I no longer go there because of Tashina, Brandee, and Jeff.[/QUOTE]I quit going there a few years ago, even tho it's decent for a good massage. Jeff is creepy and that was my main reason.
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Am I wasting my time?
So, I've been to Umi Massage 3 times. First time, partially covered massage and an effort by her to not touch anything fun. Good massage. Second time, no cover, another good massage. Nothing fun touched. Third time, no draping while I was on my stomach and light draping on the flip. This time, the massage was effective and professional, yet really sensual, too. Just the slightest of teasing. As I left she asked for a little more than the 20 tip I gave her. (Judging by reviews, I know women and couples go there, so I'm sure they are trying to give the appearance of being legit. I can't tell. Is this a Gradle / Carmel / Orchid situation, where it's all tease and no finish. I was being flirty with her during the massage, without groping, and she let out an "oh, baby" twice under her breath, then leaned over and hugged me and rubbed her face on mine. But still wouldn't touch anything fun. A little part of me wonders if she kinda has a crush on me and it's nothing more than that.
Has ANYONE gotten extras at Umi Massage?
I stop by from time to time cause it's super close and convenient. I always see the same girl, who's a little stocky. There's another girl who is thin, youngish and kinda flirty, who I have not seen. (She came in during my last massage and when I told her I can't afford two girls, she said she wanted to give me five minutes of two girls for free. I also have noticed there is a Mamasan who's 50-60 ish.).
SoooOo, has anyone gotten lucky there, despite the fact you can kind of see through the curtain in the entryway to each room and the wall doesn't go all the way up to the ceiling?
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Some Tips
[QUOTE=IlikeHJs;7351140]So, I've been to Umi Massage 3 times. First time, partially covered massage and an effort by her to not touch anything fun. Good massage. Second time, no cover, another good massage. Nothing fun touched. Third time, no draping while I was on my stomach and light draping on the flip. This time, the massage was effective and professional, yet really sensual, too. Just the slightest of teasing. As I left she asked for a little more than the 20 tip I gave her. (Judging by reviews, I know women and couples go there, so I'm sure they are trying to give the appearance of being legit. I can't tell. Is this a Gradle / Carmel / Orchid situation, where it's all tease and no finish. I was being flirty with her during the massage, without groping, and she let out an "oh, baby" twice under her breath, then leaned over and hugged me and rubbed her face on mine. But still wouldn't touch anything fun. A little part of me wonders if she kinda has a crush on me and it's nothing more than that.
Has ANYONE gotten extras at Umi Massage?
I stop by from time to time cause it's super close and convenient. I always see the same girl, who's a little stocky. There's another girl who is thin, youngish and kinda flirty, who I have not seen. (She came in during my last massage and when I told her I can't afford two girls, she said she wanted to give me five minutes of two girls for free. I also have noticed there is a Mamasan who's 50-60 ish.).
SoooOo, has anyone gotten lucky there, despite the fact you can kind of see through the curtain in the entryway to each room and the wall doesn't go all the way up to the ceiling?[/QUOTE]None of this is set in stone obviously but clues you are going to get what you came for at an AMP:
Whoever answer the doors is dressed showing plenty of leg / ass / cleavage.
The place looks a little run down or has a funk to the building.
MT has fake tits.
There is touching / brushing / rubbing of the boys or shaft at the start of the massage.
You can freely touch the therapist wherever you want.
Ten years ago at least on the west side you would get a decent to great massage with plenty of tease and a HJ at the end. The therapist would be okay to average looking dressed in normal clothes. Full Service at least for me was rarely if ever offered. In the last 5-7 things have changed. You go in and they are dressed like hookers with I love of course and they go for the main event after a lackluster 5 min of massage with barely any tease. Of course your mileage may vary as always but from what you described You won't be getting anything ever from your current place. I have never failed to go to a new place and get something.