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[QUOTE=Noleman2024;7513451]Tried to see her but she wanted a reference whuch I didn't have. Then she wanted an I'd and a pic with I'd. Didn't feel comfortable with that so it didn't go forward. She was super responsive though.[/QUOTE]Someone said reasonable rates? WTF 400 hr is reasonable? Got some big spenders for pussy!
$2.5 HHR, GFE, DFK, BBBJ, FIV, FIA, UNCOVERED CS, CIM, Pics are accurate, a little shy at first but loosened up after a little while, lots of fun.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/amorediormx27[/URL]
[QUOTE=CantThinkOf1;7513757]$2.5 HHR, GFE, DFK, BBBJ, FIV, FIA, UNCOVERED CS, CIM, Pics are accurate, a little shy at first but loosened up after a little while, lots of fun.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/amorediormx27[/URL][/QUOTE]What is UNCOVERED CS? CIM is on the menu for Hhr?
She is visiting for the next week. She has great reviews. Tall Cuban mid 30's. I'll post a report if I am able to meet her.
[URL]https://tryst.link/escort/alexandra-212[/URL]
If you want an attractive girl in her 20's who actually enjoys the date, and is a slam dunk to get laid, you'd spend at least that much if not more on dating apps, dates etc to maybe make it happen? If you're looking to nut then yeah don't go that route. If I just want to get blown I don't go to that level, I use the $80 BBBJ qv girls.
[QUOTE=Tantra6969;7513754]Someone said reasonable rates? WTF 400 hr is reasonable? Got some big spenders for pussy![/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JustLqqKing;7513833]What is UNCOVERED CS? CIM is on the menu for Hhr?[/QUOTE]Look at a keyboard. The C is under the F. Mistyped FS.
[QUOTE=RacingRodent;7511807]Has incall tonight. She is hot and she is cool if you know what I mean LOL. Reminds me of the legendary SammiB of Bradenton fame. Not so much for similar looks but for personality and performance. Amazing body, amazing cooch. Def Rodent Recommend.[/QUOTE]I took the plunge and visited Rose. Her MSRP rates are $$. 5 for hhr and $$$ for the hr. With all the rave, I thought she'd be worth it. I opted for half hour since I was short on time. She was hosting from a dumpy motel on Busch. She also had a cold. I should have left when I realized she was sick. I went through with it. BBBJ was good, 69 was good, Mish was tight and good but I feel her rates are too high. My appraisal is $. 5 - $$ for half hour max. Not sure I'll repeat. But she is short and cute. It's just not cool to be sick and offering up close and personal services. I splashed myself with hand sanitizer as soon as I returned to my vehicle. I'm not sick yet, so it seemed to have worked.
Hi does anyone have her number please I have not seen her ad for awhile I think she operates out of Brandon thanks so much for your help.
Diamond with the pink hair is looking for help today. Check out the 813 block of route 580.
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[QUOTE=Cards8;7514226]I took the plunge and visited Rose. Her MSRP rates are $$. 5 for hhr and $$$ for the hr. With all the rave, I thought she'd be worth it. I opted for half hour since I was short on time. She was hosting from a dumpy motel on Busch. She also had a cold. I should have left when I realized she was sick. I went through with it. BBBJ was good, 69 was good, Mish was tight and good but I feel her rates are too high. My appraisal is $. 5 - $$ for half hour max. Not sure I'll repeat. But she is short and cute. It's just not cool to be sick and offering up close and personal services. I splashed myself with hand sanitizer as soon as I returned to my vehicle. I'm not sick yet, so it seemed to have worked.[/QUOTE]Not speaking about this lady in particular, though this is a constant issue.
The Market Reset: Why Overpaying Dilutes Value.
There is a growing trend where costs escalate and restrictions multiply while the actual quality of service trends downward. This isn't just an individual issue, it's a market imbalance. When men continue to pay inflated "asking prices" for subpar experiences, they aren't just overspending, they are actively training the market to offer less for more.
The Strategy of the Immediate Offer.
My approach is a direct response to this inflation. When met with an unrealistic rate, I offer a firm, fair alternative based on immediate availability: "I'm ready right now, truck keys in hand, and I have (120 or reasonable X amount] for a half hour. ".
This creates a "bird in the hand" scenario. By offering instant liquidity versus the possibility of a higher paying client later, the power dynamic shifts.
The Result: Frequently, the offer is accepted immediately, or I receive a follow up text an hour or so later when the "high paying" leads fail to materialize.
The Logic: I am paying for the reality of the service, not the inflated ego of the market.
The Myth of "Winning" by Paying More.
Some argue that the person who pays the full asking price "wins" because they secured the booking. However, if that higher price rewards a bad attitude or lackluster service, it's a pyrrhic victory.
Paying a premium for an inferior experience doesn't make you a "preferred client", it makes you an enabler of a broken system. Real value is found where the price aligns with the quality of the interaction, and sometimes, the only way to find that value is to be the one willing to walk away.
Conclusion
Ultimately, a market only charges what the most desperate participant is willing to pay. By setting firm boundaries and sticking to a value based rate, you aren't just saving money, you're refusing to participate in the race to the bottom. In any exchange, the person most willing to leave the table holds the most power.
[QUOTE=JosefK;7514834]Not speaking about this lady in particular, though this is a constant issue.
The Market Reset: Why Overpaying Dilutes Value.
There is a growing trend where costs escalate and restrictions multiply while the actual quality of service trends downward. This isn't just an individual issue, it's a market imbalance. When men continue to pay inflated "asking prices" for subpar experiences, they aren't just overspending, they are actively training the market to offer less for more.
The Strategy of the Immediate Offer.
My approach is a direct response to this inflation. When met with an unrealistic rate, I offer a firm, fair alternative based on immediate availability: "I'm ready right now, truck keys in hand, and I have (120 or reasonable X amount] for a half hour. ".
This creates a "bird in the hand" scenario. By offering instant liquidity versus the possibility of a higher paying client later, the power dynamic shifts.
The Result: Frequently, the offer is accepted immediately, or I receive a follow up text an hour or so later when the "high paying" leads fail to materialize.
The Logic: I am paying for the reality of the service, not the inflated ego of the market.
The Myth of "Winning" by Paying More.
Some argue that the person who pays the full asking price "wins" because they secured the booking. However, if that higher price rewards a bad attitude or lackluster service, it's a pyrrhic victory.
Paying a premium for an inferior experience doesn't make you a "preferred client", it makes you an enabler of a broken system. Real value is found where the price aligns with the quality of the interaction, and sometimes, the only way to find that value is to be the one willing to walk away.
Conclusion
Ultimately, a market only charges what the most desperate participant is willing to pay. By setting firm boundaries and sticking to a value based rate, you aren't just saving money, you're refusing to participate in the race to the bottom. In any exchange, the person most willing to leave the table holds the most power.[/QUOTE]Further more:
The Enabler Effect: How Undisciplined Buyers Break the Market.
In any peer to peer economy, the provider's behavior is a direct reflection of what the market tolerates. When a segment of "enablers" pays premium prices for low effort service, they create an artificial bubble. This has three primary consequences:
1. The Death of Professionalism.
If a provider realizes they can provide "shit service" while still receiving maximum compensation, there is no logical incentive for them to improve. Why be punctual, friendly, or attentive if some "poor bastard" is going to pay the same rate regardless? Enablers subsidize mediocrity.
2. Price Floors vs. Value Ceilings.
Enablers create a false "price floor. " They pay high rates not because the service warrants it, but often out of a desire to "skip the line" or appear high status. This pushes the baseline price up for everyone else, even though the actual quality of the service (the value ceiling) hasn't moved an inch.
3. The "Waiting for the Whale" Syndrome.
This is where my strategy of the follow up text comes in. Many providers will hold out, ignoring fair offers because they've been conditioned by enablers to wait for a "whale", someone willing to overpay.
The Reality Check: When that whale doesn't show up, they are left with zero income for those hours.
The Correction: By offering a lower, immediate cash rate, we are providing a "market correction. " We are reminding the provider that a bird in the hand is worth more than a "whale" that might never call.
The Power of the "Rational Actor".
In economic terms, we are acting as the Rational Actor. By refusing to enable inflated expectations, we are protecting our own capital and forcing the provider to acknowledge the true market rate.
The Bottom Line: The "enabler" pays for the fantasy, the "rational buyer" pays for the reality. Over time, the rational buyer is the only one who actually keeps the market sustainable.
[QUOTE=JosefK;7514834]Not speaking about this lady in particular, though this is a constant issue.
The Market Reset: Why Overpaying Dilutes Value.
There is a growing trend where costs escalate and restrictions multiply while the actual quality of service trends downward. This isn't just an individual issue, it's a market imbalance. When men continue to pay inflated "asking prices" for subpar experiences, they aren't just overspending, they are actively training the market to offer less for more.
The Strategy of the Immediate Offer.
My approach is a direct response to this inflation. When met with an unrealistic rate, I offer a firm, fair alternative based on immediate availability: "I'm ready right now, truck keys in hand, and I have (120 or reasonable X amount] for a half hour. ".
This creates a "bird in the hand" scenario. By offering instant liquidity versus the possibility of a higher paying client later, the power dynamic shifts...[QUOTE]What I generally do when I encounter a high price is tell them thank you but that the amount is higher than I normally like. I might add a comment stating that while I am sure that they are worth that amount, I just cannot pay that high amount. Something nice and complimentary which usually has them counter with asking how much I would like. At that point I can counter down to a more reasonable amount. Or sometimes before I counter, they will counter themselves to a lower amount. I would love to see Mimi but I've told her straight out I am not paying 200. So every now and then I will hit her up and if she tells me the 200 again I just tell her no. That's also why I do not see opal black because to be an outcall or car date for what she charges for a quick visit, even though all the reviews are great, I'm just not doing that.
A lot of the Latina ones are usually the worst. And when they counter high prices and are resistant to lowering, I'll tell them good luck with that.
But I think it also depends on what time of the month it is. Usually towards the end of the month or the beginning of the month ladies are more receptive to negotiation. Makes sense as rent is due or whatever other bills they have.
Couldn't agree more with all of this. If it's someone I've seen a few times (goes without saying) there's definitely more wiggle room on price, services etc which I think is the benefit of continuing to see one provider at various points even if you try others for the experience. But AFAIC, I rarely plan well in advance unless it's someone via tryst who is travelling and that's only a handful of times. If I'm contacting them, I'll be ready in under an hour and I won't ghost. The ones who aren't candied up will typically recognize this and make it happen, it's the low tier / high volume travelling ones and users I've found that are the most flaky / unresponsive to that tactic. Which, if that's their mindset before we even meet, I would imagine the service will be commensurate. So no loss there, I'll use Rosie Palms and xvideo without leaving the house or spending a dime.
[QUOTE=SmittyQbert;7514971]The Market Reset: Why Overpaying Dilutes Value.
There is a growing trend where costs escalate and restrictions multiply while the actual quality of service trends downward. This isn't just an individual issue, it's a market imbalance. When men continue to pay inflated "asking prices" for subpar experiences, they aren't just overspending, they are actively training the market to offer less for more.
The Strategy of the Immediate Offer.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Cards8;7514226]I took the plunge and visited Rose. Her MSRP rates are $$. 5 for hhr and $$$ for the hr. With all the rave, I thought she'd be worth it. I opted for half hour since I was short on time. She was hosting from a dumpy motel on Busch. She also had a cold. I should have left when I realized she was sick. I went through with it. BBBJ was good, 69 was good, Mish was tight and good but I feel her rates are too high. My appraisal is $. 5 - $$ for half hour max. Not sure I'll repeat. But she is short and cute. It's just not cool to be sick and offering up close and personal services. I splashed myself with hand sanitizer as soon as I returned to my vehicle. I'm not sick yet, so it seemed to have worked.[/QUOTE]Well said. All valid points. What I've learned in the trade is to establish a baseline for what you are willing to donate based on who you are getting and what services will be provided. In the event any of those traits are unknown, I stick with a standard offer which is a qv up to my internal max set rate. How I feel about that experience drives my relationship with that provider going forward, if at all.
This all ties in to what I believe to be some incredible insight from Josefk, SmittyQ, and some others regarding market rates and monger response to "established" rates. At the end of the day, what I've learned over time is that I'm ok being disappointed if I stick to my principles. It's when I step outside of my comfort zone, knowing better, that I kick myself. I won't haggle. I also feel no kind of way, regardless of what's in an ad, throwing a text out laying out what I want and what I'm willing to donate. Some of those messages get ignored. Others result in shitty responses suggesting I learn how to read (eye roll). Plenty end up in negotiation where the first meet doesn't meet anyone's hopes and dreams, but establishes comfort, trust, and a path forward to a mutually beneficial relationship. For both monger and provider, trust, whatever that looks like, is important and will drive future rates. It's why its so difficult to answer questions about rates and service expectations. Through reviews and DMs, I often see a disparity between services and rates provided to different mongers. It previously annoyed me when I read reviews of other experiences (Kaci comes directly to mind) with certain providers. A few minutes in the game, I understand that all of it is relationship based.
A lot of rambling, sorry. This is a good topic with good input for both seasoned and new mongers alike as well as for those providers that monitor the board.
Good talk.
100% her in her pics. She looks fantastic from top to bottom. She was nice and straight to the point but you're not going to get a girlfriend experience with her. Got her on all fours and that's when she got into it, she knows how to move her hips. The only complaint about her is she is a Time watcher. I'd give her a 6 out of 10. If you want to go to the playground with her $$ for 30 cycles and for 60 cycles $$. 50. [URL]https://aypapi.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/florida/tampa/200980577[/URL].