Couldn't have said it better
[QUOTE=BallAllDay;4048110]There seems to be a wide array of definitions of this. Often times providers definition is different than ours! I've run into this many times over the years. First off hands down it means FS. I've had providers think and post otherwise. Especially rub girls. Some list it as service but won't do FS. After that it can go to anything from BBFSCIV to Greek. So. Let's hear it. It would be nice to have providers throw in on this also. I doubt we'll get a definitive answer / definition but maybe we can get closer to an understanding of what we and they expect.
My 2 cents; FS, BBBJCIM, COF, COA, COB, DATY, LFK, DFK, MSOG if it's hr visit, and as much spooning, caressing, touching, rubbing and cuddling as you need. In my mind that's what I expect when I see GFE.[/QUOTE]GFE is a big box they got to check. And I think you are spot on. We all know it's a business transaction. GFE is putting the effort in to make it feel realish. Not a cold mechanical pump and dump.
Doubletree Page Road Area
First time poster. Long time lurker. Grateful for the information. Yesterday I scheduled a time with Sunshine [URL]https://escortalligator.com.raleigh.listcrawler.com/post/28195186/[/URL] . Decent enough conversation. Said she had spent time with Nikki Luv, one of my favorites. She gives me the address of the old upscale Holiday Inn off Page Rd, now a DoubleTree. Headed off and as I am driving under the overpass for I40 I notice a cop car parked underneath. Make my way up the driveway and notice guys standing by the front door. Went around back as instructed and there's guys standing out back as well. Looked like they could be handler types or LEO. Spidey senses said no so I left. Checked with another provider with only a number and she gives me the same location. Maybe I'm overly cautious, but that's not a spot I'm familiar with providers staying.
Had A Scare A Couple of Years Ago
[QUOTE=MrNCbob;4046161]I had an odd dream about a recent provider. She had a very strong smell. Not fishy but more of a porta-john odor. It was off putting and I could only finish myself with her doing BLS and her ass end pointed away. I made a mistake of taking off the cover with my right hand then finishing off with same right hand. Later that day, even after washing, both my hand and junk still had the stink. So I was worried. After some time passed, no issues but I figured it was time for a check up. In a relationship now, I needed a private option. I tried a prominent STD check website that connects users directly with a lab, all results by email. It went really well. I paid with a pre-paid card, gave my burner phone and burner email, and used a PO Box address. The only concern was having to give my full name and DOB online and at the lab, but with HIPA laws, I feel somewhat safe. They did not ask for I D but I heard that could happen, plus I needed real info in case I needed a follow up Dr consult, so I did not think using an alias was a good idea. Tests were all clear, the process was easy and felt private. To tie this in with the last post, I supose an agency could track down my real info but they won't reach me at the info I provided. I had the same concern about agencies tracking down partners but I felt like it was more of a risk if I got tested at a government funded clinic, based on other info I had read. In the end, I guess we all have to accept that if we are going to take the risk, we have to accept the possibility of failure. It pays to be safe. I don't BB anything anymore, and I have noticed more provider bathrooms lacking mouthwash which helps me avoid weakness when BB is offered.[/QUOTE]I had a totally different event a couple of years ago. I was only seeing my ultra clean, gorgeous 24 year old co-ed SB. She had a live in BF, older 31, that was obsessed with getting into med school. That & some terrible sexual abuse by his own mother when he was 12-14 made him not very interested in her sexually. I felt totally comfortable he wasn't fucking anyone else since he was barely doing her. Oh course, I was happy to fill the bill. If you could see her, it would be like him having a Ferrari in his garage but driving a moped instead!
Because of our confidence in each other being clean, we never used a cover. Eventually we started enjoying Greek.
Well, I got what I thought was pink eye & went to my GP. Got drops. Went out of town on a project & got pain when I pissed & my eye got so bad it started bleeding. Did some research and figured out both the eye & the pain was a bacterial infection from unprotected anal. Went to a Doc in the Box. Got a strong dose of anti biotics and a steroid for what was inflammation in my eye.
Both were gone in a few days. I almost came clean about the pain when pissing and what I thought caused it to the out of town Doc, when he asked if I had unprotected sex. After reading this thread, thank God I didn't.
Now that she's engaged we split a couple of months ago. Back to the escort scene. I do enjoy BBBJDTCIM. Don't do BBFS or BB Greek. Still could get something but less likely orally, from what I've read.
Had A Scare A Couple of Years Ago
[QUOTE=MrNCbob;4046161]I had an odd dream about a recent provider. She had a very strong smell. Not fishy but more of a porta-john odor. It was off putting and I could only finish myself with her doing BLS and her ass end pointed away. I made a mistake of taking off the cover with my right hand then finishing off with same right hand. Later that day, even after washing, both my hand and junk still had the stink. So I was worried. After some time passed, no issues but I figured it was time for a check up. In a relationship now, I needed a private option. I tried a prominent STD check website that connects users directly with a lab, all results by email. It went really well. I paid with a pre-paid card, gave my burner phone and burner email, and used a PO Box address. The only concern was having to give my full name and DOB online and at the lab, but with HIPA laws, I feel somewhat safe. They did not ask for I D but I heard that could happen, plus I needed real info in case I needed a follow up Dr consult, so I did not think using an alias was a good idea. Tests were all clear, the process was easy and felt private. To tie this in with the last post, I supose an agency could track down my real info but they won't reach me at the info I provided. I had the same concern about agencies tracking down partners but I felt like it was more of a risk if I got tested at a government funded clinic, based on other info I had read. In the end, I guess we all have to accept that if we are going to take the risk, we have to accept the possibility of failure. It pays to be safe. I don't BB anything anymore, and I have noticed more provider bathrooms lacking mouthwash which helps me avoid weakness when BB is offered.[/QUOTE]I had a totally different event a couple of years ago. I was only seeing my ultra clean, gorgeous 24 year old co-ed SB. She had a live in BF, older 31, that was obsessed with getting into med school. That & some terrible sexual abuse by his own mother when he was 12-14 made him not very interested in her sexually. I felt totally comfortable he wasn't fucking anyone else since he was barely doing her. Oh course, I was happy to fill the bill. If you could see her, it would be like him having a Ferrari in his garage but driving a moped instead!
Because of our confidence in each other being clean, we never used a cover. Eventually we started enjoying Greek.
Well, I got what I thought was pink eye & went to the my GP. Got drops. Went out of town on a project & got pain when I pissed & my eye got so bad it started bleeding. Did some research and figured out both the eye & the pain was a bacterial infection from unprotected anal. Went to a Doc in the Box. Got a strong dose of anti biotics and a steroid for what was inflammation in my eye.
Both were gone in a few days. I almost came clean about the pain when pissing and what I thought caused it to the out of town Doc, when he asked if I had unprotected sex. After reading this thread, thank God I didn't.
Now that she's engaged we split a couple of months ago. Back to the escort scene. I do enjoy BBBJDTCIM. Don't do BBFS or BB Greek. Still could get something but less likely orally, from what I've read.
