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[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3123483]Its all a con. Men give them money and they expect it and don't appreciate it. Best to keep it as a business transaction. No flowers, candy or anything else.[/QUOTE]A girlfriend is pretty much the same way. We give them money because they expect it and don't appreciate it. So even having a girlfriend around is like a business transaction. Just like a provider see how long a girlfriend stays with you when you don't spend money on her.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;3123483]Its all a con. Men give them money and they expect it and don't appreciate it. Best to keep it as a business transaction. No flowers, candy or anything else.[/QUOTE]I've been playing this game off and on since 1979. This was the first and last time to get personally involved. But I bought them groceries rather than give her cash. When I paid the cellphone bill it was a trade for services. I think I'm going to stick with MP for a while. I need a break from the BP drama.
[QUOTE=RonM;3123541]A girlfriend is pretty much the same way. We give them money because they expect it and don't appreciate it. So even having a girlfriend around is like a business transaction. Just like a provider see how long a girlfriend stays with you when you don't spend money on her.[/QUOTE]You nailed that on the head! At the end of the day, why buy it when you can rent it!
Just like I help anyone in my life who is in need of help. Regardless of their job or eye color.
I just don't like to see people in need who do need a little boost, suffer when it's so easy to help. I'm not talking life saving stuff, just some small tokens of kindness and charity.
That's just me, and maybe why I have so many of these girls and their friends as my friends too.
I walked into a place today and saw a girl I hadn't seen in over a year, just sitting their talking with my provider and she got up gave me a hug, kiss and I got a free 4 hand with the two of them. I can't tell you how many times this has happened to me over the years. It doesn't suck, and doesn't happen overnight either.
You don't have to believe me, but there is also no reason to lie either.
Most of these girls are NOT users of men, they are just girls, and to use others and get caught doing so would be "losing face" and that is huge in the Chinese community and non of them want that unless they are a true psycho of which there are not many of them. It is up to us as men to know when we are the fool or the friend. I think I know where to draw the line.
Oh well, carry on.
[QUOTE=Magooski;3124146]You nailed that on the head! At the end of the day, why buy it when you can rent it![/QUOTE]Either way us guys have to pay for having a girlfriend or provider to play with.
[QUOTE=E6671;3123145]Glad to hear you had a good time but as far as I am concerned they are off my list for good. The drama I have had there outweighs the good times.[/QUOTE]I hear you E. I know for some the negative will outweigh the positive. I felt like I did not have much of an option for L3 unless I wanted to travel for an hour or more. I usually have very limited time before SO starts to look for me so Crystal was the closest option. I figured I would give you guys an update for those who are on the same boat. If anyone appreciates the update but has a better option out there please feel free to pm me. I most likely will do Crystal or Pine again this week.
[QUOTE=WoodStreet;3125737]I hear you E. I know for some the negative will outweigh the positive. I felt like I did not have much of an option for L3 unless I wanted to travel for an hour or more. I usually have very limited time before SO starts to look for me so Crystal was the closest option. I figured I would give you guys an update for those who are on the same boat. If anyone appreciates the update but has a better option out there please feel free to pm me. I most likely will do Crystal or Pine again this week.[/QUOTE]I don't go often, once a month at the most. I am lucky that I can get away for a few hours and travel to Ohare area although I would appreciate a solid provider or AMP out here in the South. Do you remember Nabi Spa in Lansing? That was my first FS AMP. Oh the memories.
I hope I did not come of as unappreciative RE your review. Just felt like adding my two cents was all. If Jenny should happen to return please post.
[QUOTE=E6671;3126012]I don't go often, once a month at the most. I am lucky that I can get away for a few hours and travel to Ohare area although I would appreciate a solid provider or AMP out here in the South. Do you remember Nabi Spa in Lansing? That was my first FS AMP. Oh the memories.
I hope I did not come of as unappreciative RE your review. Just felt like adding my two cents was all. If Jenny should happen to return please post.[/QUOTE]Yes I loved Nabi. I swear I went twice a week when I discovered it. I loved the way mamasan would bring the girls to the door way in the sexy lingerie for you to pick who you liked. If Jenny or Ruby ever return to Crystal I would be the first to give everyone the good news.
The past few months I've experienced 2 European Massage Therapists and thought I would report. Both advertise on CL and both are over 40. The first gives a first class massage and rates are in line with others She is hot, dresses provocatively, but I had absolutely no play. She moved away even when there was incidental contact, gave no hint of anything more available than one of the 2 or 3 best legitimate massages I have ever had. Her ad has a tropical flare. The second has been reviewed here previously. Her rates are a little higher, she is older than the first, somewhat scary with the makeup, but a good body for her age, and shows it off to a point. Gives an above average to a good plus massage imo, and provides good advice for some problem areas. I found the teasing before the flip very stimulating. She went for Jr without hesitation but when I tried to show my Roman and Russian heritage she shot me down. She finished everything, got cleaned up and a kiss goodby while I promised to return. I'll probably go back to both, 1 for a terrific massage, and 1 for the proximity and the need for help.
[QUOTE=JolieThornDog;3129949]The past few months I've experienced 2 European Massage Therapists and thought I would report. Both advertise on CL and both are over 40. The first gives a first class massage and rates are in line with others She is hot, dresses provocatively, but I had absolutely no play. She moved away even when there was incidental contact, gave no hint of anything more available than one of the 2 or 3 best legitimate massages I have ever had. Her ad has a tropical flare. The second has been reviewed here previously. Her rates are a little higher, she is older than the first, somewhat scary with the makeup, but a good body for her age, and shows it off to a point. Gives an above average to a good plus massage imo, and provides good advice for some problem areas. I found the teasing before the flip very stimulating. She went for Jr without hesitation but when I tried to show my Roman and Russian heritage she shot me down. She finished everything, got cleaned up and a kiss goodby while I promised to return. I'll probably go back to both, 1 for a terrific massage, and 1 for the proximity and the need for help.[/QUOTE]The First Lady sounds like Ingrid and she gives a most excellent massage! It's been a year, but her skills stay with you for a while. Seen her 3 times and walked away relaxed, but never happy. But I'm ok with that!
[QUOTE=Magooski;3130475]The First Lady sounds like Ingrid and she gives a most excellent massage! It's been a year, but her skills stay with you for a while. Seen her 3 times and walked away relaxed, but never happy. But I'm ok with that![/QUOTE]Who do you think the second lady is?
[QUOTE=Swans10;3130519]Who do you think the second lady is?[/QUOTE]You'd have to ask Jolie. No clue. I can't think of the other ladies name that I've seems ads in the past.
Does she look pregnant?
[QUOTE=Swans10;3135464]Does she look pregnant?[/QUOTE]I doubt it, just flabby. She is going through something and I've written her off. Gives some great head and good lay, but will talk your ears off whining wasting time on your dime.
[QUOTE=Swans10;3135464]Does she look pregnant?[/QUOTE]I think just a little belly going there. Certainly not the firm round taught pregnant belly. Look at the craigslist forum, she is talked about there a bit.