The Sugar World

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;6577080]This. 90% of the SBs expect to do PPM and pussy on first date. The only difference between TER and Seeking is no reviews, more bareback options, and somewhat less experience. They are still prostitutes, some just don't like that word.[/QUOTE]I did bite the bullet and bought the membership and have been talking to bunch of girls, Most Iphones and most came back as registered to girl names when Reverse phone searched, going to go on a few Meet and greets and see what I can scrounge.

Just need to find out how to better word the PPMs don't want to end up getting bs want GFE.

[QUOTE=HpyGolky;6576493]Looking to get your dick sucked then get fucked?

Or wine and dine then maybe you might get laid? You got the time to invest to cultivate a "fuck" with an SB?

Those girls on the SB sites sometimes require you to invest the time. They want to to get to "know you" My Gawd!

Me? Fuck that shit. Sign on to TER and find some well reviewed girl and cut to the chase.[/QUOTE]You are overlooking the fact that some (if not most) are on Seeking to find a date. I've been to Vegas 3 times last couple months, each time I met a SB from Seeking. Each time ended up being dinner / drinks / clubbing / overnight / breakfast. Yes I do enjoy the chase etc but value wise Seeking can't be beat if you're looking for an actual date with a young and fresh cutie. Good luck going on TER and find someone similar for $70/ hour (I paid $500-$1000 for my overnight dates) not to mention bare and MSOG like a real GF. It's like comparing massage parlor to strip clubs. Apples to Oranges.

[QUOTE=EagleLuver;6577080]This. 90% of the SBs expect to do PPM and pussy on first date. The only difference between TER and Seeking is no reviews, more bareback options, and somewhat less experience. They are still prostitutes, some just don't like that word.[/QUOTE]No reviews that's for sure. One of the reasons I stay a low baller. So if the date isn't all that it's no big deal.

I saw this young lady's new profile on Seeking a few minutes ago and immediately thought of HollywoodGuy. I imagine you've already seen her profile but, just in case;.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24dfe3f9-cd9a-4ffe-960e-8e86fda9eb33[/URL]

[QUOTE=Citrus1999;6577957]You are overlooking the fact that some (if not most) are on Seeking to find a date. I've been to Vegas 3 times last couple months, each time I met a SB from Seeking. Each time ended up being dinner / drinks / clubbing / overnight / breakfast. Yes I do enjoy the chase etc but value wise Seeking can't be beat if you're looking for an actual date with a young and fresh cutie. Good luck going on TER and find someone similar for $70/ hour (I paid $500-$1000 for my overnight dates) not to mention bare and MSOG like a real GF. It's like comparing massage parlor to strip clubs. Apples to Oranges.[/QUOTE]You must have good game and are good looking. My usual dates are dinner and drinks, then bare fun in the room, but I'm fat, so I'd say 50% of the girls are out after an hour or two, although it is MSOG and they're usually down for CIP. I've never had girls agree to an overnight on the first date, even though my PPM is also 500 - 1000. A few have asked for more than 1 k as well, but out of dozens of requests that high, I've only relented twice, and that was for two girls I found ridiculously hot. One of them even turned out to be amazingly smart and a great conversationist, and the other was a dumb brat that I enjoyed pinning on the bed and hatefucking.

This is not to say Seeking is bad, on the contrary I've been here for a week and had 2 dates a day scheduled. Some did flake and one girl just threw leftovers in my face, more on that later, but others were enjoyable to hang out with. About half of them were girls I knew already, and the other half new dates.

The girl who threw leftovers in my face was one I took out to dinner. She seemed okay but then gradually revealed how she had two kids with two guys, one of whom was in prison. She lived in a room with her sister in law and shared a twin bed with her kids. She had no job, and had "regulars" in Vegas. Smelled like a hooker, but hey my date earlier that day flaked and I figured it could be a one and done thing with her. Then she tells me no BBFS under any circumstances.

At this point, she's not hot enough to put up with her rules and low class lifestyle. I wait until dinner is finished and we're out in the lobby with the bag of leftovers before telling her that I appreciated her time, but the physical vibe is not going to work if we need to use a condom because I absolutely can't feel anything and won't cum. I offered to cashapp her a little money for her time, and she says "okay sure cashapp me 500. " I said that's the total PPM for a full date, not just dinner. Then she starts making a stank face and says fine we can fuck bare. I tell her I'm not going to force someone to do something they don't want and it's going to be a terrible experience anyway with her attitude, and walk off towards the casino, uber pickup was on the other side. She chases after me and starts asking if I'm seriously not going to pay her anything and I told her I was, then her attitude made me reconsider. She tells me she paid a babysitter for the date and I told her she lives with her sister in law and she said that person was watching her kids at dinner. Then she said she had 35 cents in her bank account and I told her that's not my problem. She reaches in the leftover back, undoes the top on a container, then takes the container out and hurls it in my face, before walking the other way.

Went over to security and explained what happened, they took a report and pics of the food on me before telling me to file a report with LVPD. Here's her account:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6362659-9c00-42a1-acb9-754cd555c612[/URL]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6578265]No reviews that's for sure. One of the reasons I stay a low baller. So if the date isn't all that it's no big deal.[/QUOTE]100% I have met girls from seeking that I would have paid 1 k for if I had go but I didn't know until I had seen them they were that good. I always low ball and eveytime I make an exception I wish I hadn't.

[QUOTE=Rouleur;6583558]I saw this young lady's new profile on Seeking a few minutes ago and immediately thought of HollywoodGuy. I imagine you've already seen her profile but, just in case;.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24dfe3f9-cd9a-4ffe-960e-8e86fda9eb33[/URL][/QUOTE]For sure a 10 in my book. But obviously too pricey for my budget.

[QUOTE=Rouleur;6583558]I saw this young lady's new profile on Seeking a few minutes ago and immediately thought of HollywoodGuy. I imagine you've already seen her profile but, just in case;.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24dfe3f9-cd9a-4ffe-960e-8e86fda9eb33[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=HollywoodGuy;6584299]For sure a 10 in my book. But obviously too pricey for my budget.[/QUOTE]Agree. This LuckyLouis SB is hot, also a 10 in my book. But here's the thing. She looks just like this girl I am banging right now named Nikki. Except the SA girl is only 5'3" while my Nikki is about 5'9". Tall, almost anorexic skinny, super long legs, but with huge natural perfect tits!

And super tight pussy that feels like a soaking wet glove squeezing my very happy peen.

[QUOTE=AceMcNasty;6587534]Agree. This LuckyLouis SB is hot, also a 10 in my book. But here's the thing. She looks just like this girl I am banging right now named Nikki. Except the SA girl is only 5'3" while my Nikki is about 5'9". Tall, almost anorexic skinny, super long legs, but with huge natural perfect tits!

And super tight pussy that feels like a soaking wet glove squeezing my very happy peen.[/QUOTE]Agreed. And on the flip side I can't tell you how many girls I hit up on seeking over the years only for them to tell me we already fucked or it didn't work out. It becomes a blur at some point, especially if you are over doing it. lol. And your girl is super hot btw.

You're probably right. Even though I'm in my 40's and have a family I'm still very much into the nightlife. I stay in very good shape and do have "game. ".

I never do dinner dates in LV. Always meet at a nice lounge and spend at least 45 min-1 hour just talking and flirting w / POT. At that point both the POT and I can feel the chemistry and things just pretty go organic from there (and much easier to "negotiate" once there's mutual chemistry and attraction).

I don't even suggest overnight when I negotiate, it's almost "understood" I guess if we are vibing then naturally we'll end up spending the night all inclusive.

On Bare, It's so so so hard to turn down especially when you have a 25 yr old clean shaven white pussy eagerly inviting. I've been burnt more than once though literally and figuratively that it's just not worth bringing shit home. Try 001 condom from Japan.

[QUOTE=Mcsylv;6583795]You must have good game and are good looking. My usual dates are dinner and drinks, then bare fun in the room, but I'm fat, so I'd say 50% of the girls are out after an hour or two, although it is MSOG and they're usually down for CIP. I've never had girls agree to an overnight on the first date, even though my PPM is also 500 - 1000. A few have asked for more than 1 k as well, but out of dozens of requests that high, I've only relented twice, and that was for two girls I found ridiculously hot. One of them even turned out to be amazingly smart and a great conversationist, and the other was a dumb brat that I enjoyed pinning on the bed and hatefucking.

This is not to say Seeking is bad, on the contrary I've been here for a week and had 2 dates a day scheduled. Some did flake and one girl just threw leftovers in my face, more on that later, but others were enjoyable to hang out with. About half of them were girls I knew already, and the other half new dates.

The girl who threw leftovers in my face was one I took out to dinner. She seemed okay but then gradually revealed how she had two kids with two guys, one of whom was in prison. She lived in a room with her sister in law and shared a twin bed with her kids. She had no job, and had "regulars" in Vegas. Smelled like a hooker, but hey my date earlier that day flaked and I figured it could be a one and done thing with her. Then she tells me no BBFS under any circumstances.

At this point, she's not hot enough to put up with her rules and low class lifestyle. I wait until dinner is finished and we're out in the lobby with the bag of leftovers before telling her that I appreciated her time, but the physical vibe is not going to work if we need to use a condom because I absolutely can't feel anything and won't cum. I offered to cashapp her a little money for her time, and she says "okay sure cashapp me 500. " I said that's the total PPM for a full date, not just dinner. Then she starts making a stank face and says fine we can fuck bare. I tell her I'm not going to force someone to do something they don't want and it's going to be a terrible experience anyway with her attitude, and walk off towards the casino, uber pickup was on the other side. She chases after me and starts asking if I'm seriously not going to pay her anything and I told her I was, then her attitude made me reconsider. She tells me she paid a babysitter for the date and I told her she lives with her sister in law and she said that person was watching her kids at dinner. Then she said she had 35 cents in her bank account and I told her that's not my problem. She reaches in the leftover back, undoes the top on a container, then takes the container out and hurls it in my face, before walking the other way.

Went over to security and explained what happened, they took a report and pics of the food on me before telling me to file a report with LVPD. Here's her account:

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/e6362659-9c00-42a1-acb9-754cd555c612[/URL][/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Rouleur;6583558]I saw this young lady's new profile on Seeking a few minutes ago and immediately thought of HollywoodGuy. I imagine you've already seen her profile but, just in case;.

[URL]https://members.seeking.com/member/24dfe3f9-cd9a-4ffe-960e-8e86fda9eb33[/URL][/QUOTE]Just tried to look it up. Profile is deleted.

[QUOTE=SuperJet;6587861]Just tried to look it up. Profile is deleted.[/QUOTE]Luckylouis. Profile came up just fine rn.

What's is the going rate for a 20's something white, non pro girl?

I have a work trip coming up and trying to figure out my luck.

Last time I was in Vegas, I got cheated by a scammer. Stole my money.

But I also good experience with a girl but lost her contact!

[QUOTE=PeterPan;6588593]What's is the going rate for a 20's something white, non pro girl?

I have a work trip coming up and trying to figure out my luck.

Last time I was in Vegas, I got cheated by a scammer. Stole my money.

But I also good experience with a girl but lost her contact![/QUOTE]

300-600 for quick M&G then upstairs for 1-2 hours.

500-1000 for Drinks / Dinner / Party / Room.

1000- ??? Overnight.

This is for a mid 20's non pro 7 out of 10 white chick. Amount can vary greatly depend on your looks and "game. " If you feel like you got game then do not discuss $$$ until at M&G. For so called non-pros their price really varies depending on your chemistry at M&G.

[QUOTE=Citrus1999;6589618]300-600 for quick M&G then upstairs for 1-2 hours.

500-1000 for Drinks / Dinner / Party / Room.

1000- ??? Overnight.

This is for a mid 20's non pro 7 out of 10 white chick. Amount can vary greatly depend on your looks and "game. " If you feel like you got game then do not discuss $$$ until at M&G. For so called non-pros their price really varies depending on your chemistry at M&G.[/QUOTE]Thank you very much.