What in the fuck are you talking about?

This is the entire bill. (First link)

[URL]https://www.billtrack50.com/billdetail/1734649[/URL]

[URL]https://www.yesweekly.com/news/the-anti-john-law-state-makes-buying-sex-a-felony/article_e2d2bc04-6ac4-11ef-b0c6-bf47dbd644ae.html[/URL]

[QUOTE=NCTransplant;7021246]Sure they know what is going on. But will they have an incentive to turn us or the girls in.[/QUOTE]Well you can't put anything pass anyone far as saying what they will and won't do but unless LEO stop by a motel and offer something in return I doult if any of the maids and managers would report us. We all know about motel owners and managers and clerks who trade rooms for service. Sad to say but most mongers don't even know its going to be a felony every monger and chick I told about it had know idea. So sadly we can just sat back and watch the show after December 1st and see what happens.

[QUOTE=Gemini10;7022011]Well you can't put anything pass anyone far as saying what they will and won't do but unless LEO stop by a motel and offer something in return I doult if any of the maids and managers would report us. We all know about motel owners and managers and clerks who trade rooms for service. Sad to say but most mongers don't even know its going to be a felony every monger and chick I told about it had know idea. So sadly we can just sat back and watch the show after December 1st and see what happens.[/QUOTE]I imagine there will be a few attorneys who specialize in the "Get of jail for free card" pop up. I think the guidance we have received on this page will help some avoid getting caught. I want to ask an defense attorney their take on "how to avoid. " Has anyone had any conversation with either LE or attys about this?

[QUOTE=LuccaMac;7023012]I imagine there will be a few attorneys who specialize in the "Get of jail for free card" pop up. I think the guidance we have received on this page will help some avoid getting caught. I want to ask an defense attorney their take on "how to avoid. " Has anyone had any conversation with either LE or attys about this?[/QUOTE]From what I've been told by a local hotel owner who I served with in Afghanistan says the target is human trafficking. So any signs of girls signed in by someone else, especially more than one girl and guys who hover around the area while many males visit and go all day / night would require a report to local trafficking unit being set up. Garden variety punani purveyors who come and go at will are not the target.

Maybe I am being naive here, but I have to wonder how much time and resources LE will actually put onto this. Sure it's another tool in their toolbox to be sure, but do we really think in Charlotte a serious commitment will be made? Smaller towns are another story and it could get ugly in those communities.

[QUOTE=LuccaMac;7023012]I imagine there will be a few attorneys who specialize in the "Get of jail for free card" pop up. I think the guidance we have received on this page will help some avoid getting caught. I want to ask an defense attorney their take on "how to avoid. " Has anyone had any conversation with either LE or attys about this?[/QUOTE]I'm not that worried about it to the point I'm asking LEO about my illegal activty. You going to hear or read all types of advice and guys saying this and that person told them this and that. The only thing you can do is wait and see. South Carolina might start getting more and more providers on this end and VA on the other side and TN. Fine chicks will be traveling out the state to ATL and other places. And that is if it gets bad which I don't think it will. Don't go talking to LEO even if you know them if they don't know your business don't tell them. Just wait and see what happens.

[QUOTE=Gemini10;7023559]I'm not that worried about it to the point I'm asking LEO about my illegal activty. You going to hear or read all types of advice and guys saying this and that person told them this and that. The only thing you can do is wait and see. South Carolina might start getting more and more providers on this end and VA on the other side and TN. Fine chicks will be traveling out the state to ATL and other places. And that is if it gets bad which I don't think it will. Don't go talking to LEO even if you know them if they don't know your business don't tell them. Just wait and see what happens.[/QUOTE]Not so sure we need to fear LEO so much. Endorsing criminals is a good sign we're all on the same side. Party on pimps!!

[QUOTE=MontyJoe;7024670]Not so sure we need to fear LEO so much. Endorsing criminals is a good sign we're all on the same side. Party on pimps!![/QUOTE]That's the truth Ruth. LEO ok with grabbin that stuff just like me. 😄.

I don't like talking to much about the same post on the escort thread especially if its a long post it jams up the page. But you seem like a decent guy and caught up with a hot chick you like looking at and smashing. We all been there, I don't talk about it but when I first came here a chick several have reviewed on here had me caught up. It didn't last long but I was still green at that point. Sending her cash apps and when I refused she would pretend to through a temper tandrom saying she need it and I don't care about her no one does on and on. Funny thing one day I told another guy who had saw her she ask for a cash app for 5 dollars and I sent it he said she ask me to I didn't do it she send those to many guys and collect. He woke me up to the scam these chicks have. They send the same lie to many guys and see how many send money. She tells many guys she hungry and need 10 bucks. You said she started at 18 last time went down to 4 and it was early AM her kids was sleep. And if you never saw her with kids most likely she doesn't even have her kids. She is a addict playing you and several more guys. Its nothing to be ashame of its a lesson makes us more aware of the people we dealing with. Addicts got game and once they know we really like them they will try and use us. Moving forward only contact her when you want to see her pay and leave, all that texting like she your GF only keeps your feeling for her high and trust me she doesn't GAF about you. She has many men runnining behind her just like you do. She wasnt in the shower she had another man in there. Told you a lie about a fight because she was busy. And when a dope boy comes through she dips for hours or days. Said you wanted to smash her and say oh that was one of the free visits you owe me try it and you will see she a addict because you will regret it when she done. Never agree to pay and don't. Some young guys rip the chicks off that way but we grown men with jobs can't risk getting into a fight with a provider junky. Always some dude near by she gets high with who looking forward to that 80 bucks ready to call their dealer. Some cases they call the dealer soon as you get there. Just my 2 cents don't have to stop seeing her but you have to create bounderies. Stay woke Bro.

When law enforcement personnel, district attorneys and judges have been educated about this change, we expect the number of charges for the purchase of sex to increase dramatically. And if the criminal justice system delivers the appropriate consequences, demand for commercial sex will decrease in North Carolina. Less commercial sex equals fewer sex trafficking victims. And that's how demand reduction strategies work.

Read more at: [URL]https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article289914144.html[/URL]#storylink=cpy I enough FB to hold me over a few mouths as I wait and see what happens.

I don't necessarily expect a flood of arrests on Dec 1. I expect to see the effect of this to play out over time.

[QUOTE=Gemini10;7031229]When law enforcement personnel, district attorneys and judges have been educated about this change, we expect the number of charges for the purchase of sex to increase dramatically. And if the criminal justice system delivers the appropriate consequences, demand for commercial sex will decrease in North Carolina. Less commercial sex equals fewer sex trafficking victims. And that's how demand reduction strategies work.

Read more at: [URL]https://www.newsobserver.com/opinion/article289914144.html[/URL]#storylink=cpy I enough FB to hold me over a few mouths as I wait and see what happens.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NCTransplant;7031546]I don't necessarily expect a flood of arrests on Dec 1. I expect to see the effect of this to play out over time.[/QUOTE]Oh of course and things may stay as they are far as stings but if we get caught now its a felony. I'm thinking maybe the first 6 months they will make a few examples to show they mean bussiness. I'm making escorts and mongers I know aware of the new law upgrade, some don't take it serious.

They may cut you a break the first time they catch you. Yea, let's fill the jails up with guys buying pussy while we are getting shot at driving down the interstate.

[QUOTE=Gemini10;7032083]Oh of course and things may stay as they are far as stings but if we get caught now its a felony. I'm thinking maybe the first 6 months they will make a few examples to show they mean bussiness. I'm making escorts and mongers I know aware of the new law upgrade, some don't take it serious.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=NCTransplant;7032168]They may cut you a break the first time they catch you. Yea, let's fill the jails up with guys buying pussy while we are getting shot at driving down the interstate.[/QUOTE]They might because its not simple as guys buying it its about human trafficking and stopping the demand for it, the demand lies in mongers if they can make mongers to scared to buy it trafficking will slow down. Can't sell a product if no one is buying it. I hate human trafficking also I never meet a woman who said she was being forced and held against her will if I did I would report it. Because that has to be the most demeaning thing a woman can go through. Problem is to upgrade the laws they made all of it human trafficking even the woman doing it on her own not on drugs working taking care of her family. They build prisons all the time private bussinesses are in the prison business and they want those prosons filled to make products for free saving them billions in jobs. So don't get it twisted thinking they want give you the max for first offense. For as the law is concerned we worst than pimps because we the reason it exist.

[QUOTE=NCTransplant;7032168]They may cut you a break the first time they catch you. Yea, let's fill the jails up with guys buying pussy while we are getting shot at driving down the interstate.[/QUOTE]You may get a break your first time, no jail time, doubtful it gets bumped down to a misdemeanor, but that would be your last time in the game in NC, and let us hope you'll never have to look for a job again.

As it stands, the Hotel Asians, Brazilian underground railroads, probably AMPs are all no-go's for me, I'm not into street girls but that would a risk as well.

I expect the price will skyrocket for reasonably safe situations.

I support going after traffickers, but remember cops and prosecutors like felony convictions on their jacket.