I don't understand either. Seems strange. They are very accomodating.
[QUOTE=Morry1;2571797]I went there again and once again received nothing more than a mediocre massage. What am I doing wrong? Is there some secret?[/QUOTE]
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I don't understand either. Seems strange. They are very accomodating.
[QUOTE=Morry1;2571797]I went there again and once again received nothing more than a mediocre massage. What am I doing wrong? Is there some secret?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Morry1;2571797]I went there again and once again received nothing more than a mediocre massage. What am I doing wrong? Is there some secret?[/QUOTE]Morry, it sounds like you're giving off the wrong vibe. I always act as cheery as possible, give the mms a hug and definitely give the attendant a hug and pat on the rear. I have never struck out.
Always a good time with why* at Cove. So glad she's back. I have never seen other attendants there, has anyone else? I met the mms on my last visit when comcast was fixing the phone / cable.
I agree with the others, you might be giving off the wrong vibe. I am 63 and take Viagra. Nobody would think I am LEO. Plus I have been through the drill so many times, I know all the things to say and not say. Call it a relaxed, friendly attitude, I guess. Perhaps you are younger and in good shape, look like LEO. Walkie Talkie, handcuffs, gun, and badge are mood killers also. But seriously, try to be friendly, and relax. Enjoy the massage. Smile, be nice and respectful. Hug the MS, and MT. Introduce yourself and smile. "I am Bob. It's nice to meet you." Pay attention when she tells you her name. Get one hour. Not half an hour. I prefer to skip the table shower, but that's just me. If prefer the main event in the room. If they ask if you have been there before, be truthful. If you have not been there, mention a few competing places and tell them you wanted to try a new place. Get the names from the Forum. When they tell you to undress, tell them you would like some help, and ask the girl to stay. If she actually does stay in the room as you undress, have her do the unbuttoning and unzipping. Take two or three condoms out of your pants. ([U]Always bring your own. Never use theirs[/U]. ) Then embrace her and ask if you can remove her clothes. Be gentle and sensual. [U]Offer to massage her[/U]. Do a nice job, not just grab-ass. After all you are proving you are a nice, friendly guy, who wants his friend to enjoy herself. At some point she might ask "What do you want". That's your golden ticket. Just say something like "You are amazing. I am so excited. Let's Fuck". Make an effort to get her off as well. That's half the fun. Never discuss price. If they say a particular price, just mention another place and their prices. Nude HE, worth $50 or $60 depending on how much she let's you do, how long the service. FS is $100 or $120, again depending on the effort. For example, after the deed, she should actually give you a massage. If so, and you get the full hour or a second pop, then tip at the higher end of scale. If she shorts you on time, then maybe tip at the lower end. Now, for sure, make sure you get her name. IF you really hit it off, find out the days she works. Tell her you don't want to lose contact and ask for her phone number, or WeChat (Chinese) or KayKayo (SP?) (Korean) contact info. Good luck. Tell us how it goes next time. Bob.
[QUOTE=Morry1;2571797]I went there again and once again received nothing more than a mediocre massage. What am I doing wrong? Is there some secret?[/QUOTE]
I was coming home from the south side and decided to hit up pinetree. 1130 am. 30 min wait. So I left. Heard about new talent at maple. What bullshit. I few years back I got lucky with a sandy blond Asian chick. Very pleasing to the eyes. But this time. Never again. I figure I let you guys know that the adds are false. Even ivy had older chicks but BBBJ / cim is a game changer for me. She's out of site during the deed and with age comes talent.
But maple. I had to work my old magic with my eyes closed. That's how much it turned me off. I felt ashamed when I left. Same feeling you get when you wake up next to a fugly chick that you brought home the night before.
Biscuit out.
I've heard nothing good about Maple recently. I've never been and have no desire to go.
[QUOTE=Biscuit123;2576916]I was coming home from the south side and decided to hit up pinetree. 1130 am. 30 min wait. So I left. Heard about new talent at maple. What bullshit. I few years back I got lucky with a sandy blond Asian chick. Very pleasing to the eyes. But this time. Never again. I figure I let you guys know that the adds are false. Even ivy had older chicks but BBBJ / cim is a game changer for me. She's out of site during the deed and with age comes talent.
But maple. I had to work my old magic with my eyes closed. That's how much it turned me off. I felt ashamed when I left. Same feeling you get when you wake up next to a fugly chick that you brought home the night before.
Biscuit out.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;2560747]I found Anna after previously being sent away, yes Anna is deserving of praise, for those of you who actually come for the massage, its not that good but I wasn't there for that. I did not ask for her by name since it was my first time there and I could sense the mamsan tense up, which unfortunately as I have posted before, I have just had to to get use to when I show for the first time at a spa.
After the festivities, I was properly introduced to the mamasan and everyone was smiling. I was going to go to either Lux, Pine tree or the old standby Royal in Indiana. Anna made me glad I chose Pine Tree.[/QUOTE]I been around the block I have had feelings for some but just friend and we'll wishs, but Anna since day one I got something with her not going in detail but can anyone tell me if she just another play girl.
They all are play girls. Anything she does with you, she is doing with others. Just my opinion.
[QUOTE=Langley08;2577183]I been around the block I have had feelings for some but just friend and we'll wishs, but Anna since day one I got something with her not going in detail but can anyone tell me if she just another play girl.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2577502]They all are play girls. Anything she does with you, she is doing with others. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]Its built into male DNA, a millionaire man will marry the star bucks barista cause she is nice to him and smiles when she brings him his coffee whereas Angelina Jolie marries Brad Frickin' Pitt. Point being I know of mongers who have tried to marry / date providers. It becomes difficult since she see's married men, the first time you 'have to work late at the office' you"re greeted with 'so you found a new girlfriend already' (swoomph, the sound of a skillet sailing past his head). The opposite is also true, Saturday night she says I going out with the girls however, you can't reach her by phone and she's not responding to your text, so your mind takes over and you envision her on own knees with another guys johnson in her mouth because, well, that's how she hooked you. When she's finally home at 3 am, you argue and the neighbor calls the police.
Some mongers have worked it out and have gone on to marry their providers but they are the exception not the rule. Demands for increasing amounts of money for relatives back home and credit cards opened in your name (she's at home all day and hides the mail) and before you know it, your broke cause when your sisters and brothers were trying to tell you something was wrong, you never listened cause they have hated every girl you have ever bought home, right (cause you have ALWAYS bought home the wrong girl, that's why).
It's kinda of hard to find, try to locate "The Birthday Girl" with Nicole Kidman with the relavant scenes being when her 'cousins' come to visit (they weren't her cousins but her boyfriend and his friends from her country who now want him to rip off the bank he works at).
My one monger internet friend said he got took for $10,000 before he realized what had happened, she blew it at the casino's.
Tread lightly with you special lady, she's not so ' wet' when she's see you cause you are so hot looking, its just KY warming gel. Just sayin'.
Wired.
[QUOTE=Biscuit123;2576916]I was coming home from the south side and decided to hit up pinetree. 1130 am. 30 min wait. So I left. Heard about new talent at maple. What bullshit. I few years back I got lucky with a sandy blond Asian chick. Very pleasing to the eyes. But this time. Never again. I figure I let you guys know that the adds are false. Even ivy had older chicks but BBBJ / cim is a game changer for me. She's out of site during the deed and with age comes talent.
But maple. I had to work my old magic with my eyes closed. That's how much it turned me off. I felt ashamed when I left. Same feeling you get when you wake up next to a fugly chick that you brought home the night before.
Biscuit out.[/QUOTE]Great post, I had been eyeballing maple for a while. I've never been, and I plan on staying away until there's a decent report on them. Thanks.
Drew Mikki today, she's new to Pine Tree but has lived in Schaumberg for 7 years so I would imagine she's a veteran to the scene (and she performed like one). Mid 30's is my guess, b's and very, very slim. Very good massage (7), completely unrushed, and very good FS as well. Highly recommended, had me there 70 minutes even though door fee is only supposed to get you 45.
I have had the pleasure of seeing "June" at pine tree on several occasions she is one of the older women there that always has provided me with a great experience but I'm ready to switch it up a little since I have yet to see either Joann or Anna. Does anyone have any info on Joann? Younger? Older? Experience overall?
Joanne looks like she is 18 but I think she is early 30's. She is GFE. I recommend.
[QUOTE=RedWolf3006;2578290]I have had the pleasure of seeing "June" at pine tree on several occasions she is one of the older women there that always has provided me with a great experience but I'm ready to switch it up a little since I have yet to see either Joann or Anna. Does anyone have any info on Joann? Younger? Older? Experience overall?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;2578248]Its built into male DNA, a millionaire man will marry the star bucks barista cause she is nice to him and smiles when she brings him his coffee whereas Angelina Jolie marries Brad Frickin' Pitt. Point being I know of mongers who have tried to marry / date providers. It becomes difficult since she see's married men, the first time you 'have to work late at the office' you"re greeted with 'so you found a new girlfriend already' (swoomph, the sound of a skillet sailing past his head). The opposite is also true, Saturday night she says I going out with the girls however, you can't reach her by phone and she's not responding to your text, so your mind takes over and you envision her on own knees with another guys johnson in her mouth because, well, that's how she hooked you. When she's finally home at 3 am, you argue and the neighbor calls the police.
Some mongers have worked it out and have gone on to marry their providers but they are the exception not the rule. Demands for increasing amounts of money for relatives back home and credit cards opened in your name (she's at home all day and hides the mail) and before you know it, your broke cause when your sisters and brothers were trying to tell you something was wrong, you never listened cause they have hated every girl you have ever bought home, right (cause you have ALWAYS bought home the wrong girl, that's why).
It's kinda of hard to find, try to locate "The Birthday Girl" with Nicole Kidman with the relavant scenes being when her 'cousins' come to visit (they weren't her cousins but her boyfriend and his friends from her country who now want him to rip off the bank he works at).
My one monger internet friend said he got took for $10,000 before he realized what had happened, she blew it at the casino's.
Tread lightly with you special lady, she's not so ' wet' when she's see you cause you are so hot looking, its just KY warming gel. Just sayin'.
Wired.[/QUOTE]The one gal on the HBO show Cathouse just rolled her eyes and called guys like that Captain Save a Hoe.
When mongers stroll thru that door all they $ee i$ dollar $ign$. Period. When you are allowed to come thru that door and leave with the exact same amount of cash you walked in and with have the time if your life then you may be on to something man. These girls are professional actresses! Academy award nomination worthy!
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2577502]They all are play girls. Anything she does with you, she is doing with others. Just my opinion.[/QUOTE]
Absolutely but some are horrible actresses. LOL.
[QUOTE=Jlima;2582275]When mongers stroll thru that door all they $ee i$ dollar $ign$. Period. When you are allowed to come thru that door and leave with the exact same amount of cash you walked in and with have the time if your life then you may be on to something man. These girls are professional actresses! Academy award nomination worthy![/QUOTE]
Very true! Funny part is when their a bad actress but think you don't notice LOL.
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2582435]Absolutely but some are horrible actresses. LOL.[/QUOTE]
I normally visit AMPs in the NW burbs, but my little head's curiosity led me on to journey to PT. "May" was attractive and gave a typical massage. I offered 40 for standard, then 60. Told her that was all I had, but she got stinky. I keep another 40 in another pocket in case my little head wants to upgrade service, which soon was in her hands. For that, I only got standard service. I am so ashamed I fell for this scam. I later asked: she would want 140 for FS!! Never again! Lux, Yun, and Sky are far better.
But the real concern for you all to know are the security cameras I saw at PineTree. As I left, the door to the room by the entryway was open, and I saw a bank of video screens that sure looked like images inside all of the rooms. I did not notice a cam in my room, so either they are well hidden, or the video screens were displaying something else. Use caution, my friends!
[QUOTE=StudMuffin314;2583281]I normally visit AMPs in the NW burbs, but my little head's curiosity led me on to journey to PT. "May" was attractive and gave a typical massage. I offered 40 for standard, then 60. Told her that was all I had, but she got stinky. I keep another 40 in another pocket in case my little head wants to upgrade service, which soon was in her hands. For that, I only got standard service. I am so ashamed I fell for this scam. I later asked: she would want 140 for FS!! Never again! Lux, Yun, and Sky are far better.
But the real concern for you all to know are the security cameras I saw at PineTree. As I left, the door to the room by the entryway was open, and I saw a bank of video screens that sure looked like images inside all of the rooms. I did not notice a cam in my room, so either they are well hidden, or the video screens were displaying something else. Use caution, my friends![/QUOTE]Sorry you had a bad experience. I can vouch for Pine Tree and say I've never had any bad experiences there. I think perhaps it's a "girl by girl" situation. I don't know May, perhaps she's new. I have never paid more than $. 2 for FS there and they know that's the going rate. The regular gals there are super cool, and if you exude an aura of confidence when you tell them what you're after and what you'll be donating for it, there is no drama around the $$.
I've seen that bank of video screens. Cameras do not show the insides of rooms, that'd be awfully stupid for them to do to themselves and their customers, considering... they have one at the outer front door, one at the inner front door, one at the back parking lot, and one in the provider's "hangout room" near the bathroom in the back.
Today as I was driving to Pine I realized that I had an upcoming business appointment a little later and that I might not get there in time if I get the planned one hour session. So I called Pine to confirm there is no wait time and that I might be able to get a half-hour massage instead. The lady on the phone informed me that they have one room open right then and if I get there on time, I could have it without any wait time. However, she also informed that they do not do any appointment less than an hour.
Obviously I ended up turning around. But, I believe Pine always had 30 min sessions. Did she pull a fast one on me? Has anyone here have had success recently scheduling a half-hour session at Pine?
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2571986]I don't understand either. Seems strange. They are very accomodating.[/QUOTE]Stopped in again the other day and got the same level of service that I've always received. Maybe it is a vibe that you're giving off.
Yeah I know it sucks but I also was told they only do hour sessions or more.
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2584501]Today as I was driving to Pine I realized that I had an upcoming business appointment a little later and that I might not get there in time if I get the planned one hour session. So I called Pine to confirm there is no wait time and that I might be able to get a half-hour massage instead. The lady on the phone informed me that they have one room open right then and if I get there on time, I could have it without any wait time. However, she also informed that they do not do any appointment less than an hour.
Obviously I ended up turning around. But, I believe Pine always had 30 min sessions. Did she pull a fast one on me? Has anyone here have had success recently scheduling a half-hour session at Pine?[/QUOTE]
I've never heard or seen a half hour quote from Pine Tree going back many years.
[QUOTE=Lebruno;2584501]Today as I was driving to Pine I realized that I had an upcoming business appointment a little later and that I might not get there in time if I get the planned one hour session. So I called Pine to confirm there is no wait time and that I might be able to get a half-hour massage instead. The lady on the phone informed me that they have one room open right then and if I get there on time, I could have it without any wait time. However, she also informed that they do not do any appointment less than an hour.
Obviously I ended up turning around. But, I believe Pine always had 30 min sessions. Did she pull a fast one on me? Has anyone here have had success recently scheduling a half-hour session at Pine?[/QUOTE]
Been to Ivy on a Satday afternoon.
Got an old lady (seems like no surprise). The mamasan asked me if I am out of town. I said I was. She spent a minute trying to massage my legs and left me with the old lady.
No multiple ladies or no mouth, standard finish.
Felt like bad use of my time.
[QUOTE=Lookin4it;2571415]I agree. At Ivy, they may be even older than what we usually have to deal with, but they are enthusiastic.
And with that in mind, I need to vent about how crappy we have it here in Chicago / Illinois. I just came back from Honolulu and the "AMPs" they have there are phenomenal. FS with absolutely hot asian women. It is truly a shame that we have to be grateful for a couple enthusiastic old asian women, and even THAT is looked on as something outstanding.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=IlDiavolo;2583519]Sorry you had a bad experience. I can vouch for Pine Tree and say I've never had any bad experiences there. I think perhaps it's a "girl by girl" situation. I don't know May, perhaps she's new. I have never paid more than $. 2 for FS there and they know that's the going rate. The regular gals there are super cool, and if you exude an aura of confidence when you tell them what you're after and what you'll be donating for it, there is no drama around the $$.
I've seen that bank of video screens. Cameras do not show the insides of rooms, that'd be awfully stupid for them to do to themselves and their customers, considering... they have one at the outer front door, one at the inner front door, one at the back parking lot, and one in the provider's "hangout room" near the bathroom in the back.[/QUOTE]Thanks for your feedback. All I know is that if there are cameras, there could be recordings. And if it like you say (parking lot, entryway, etc), it still shows me walking to their door, ringing their bell, etc. I don't know about you, but I prefer to keep this hobby anonymous, and I'd hate to see any posted videos of me walking up to their door, ringing their bell, etc. Not worth the risk.
[QUOTE=StudMuffin314;2587907]Thanks for your feedback. All I know is that if there are cameras, there could be recordings. And if it like you say (parking lot, entryway, etc), it still shows me walking to their door, ringing their bell, etc. I don't know about you, but I prefer to keep this hobby anonymous, and I'd hate to see any posted videos of me walking up to their door, ringing their bell, etc. Not worth the risk.[/QUOTE]Now, you may not see them but expect at most, but not necessarily every spa or apartment has some kind of videoing going on. It's one way to make sure the girl gives them the correct $. You know, trust but verify. Additionally, these spa and apartments can be robbed by the Chinese or asian mafia's cause they know ain't nobody going to call the police.
During raids by the police, the cops having been videotaped taking money and trying to find the videotaping equipment to remove evidence of their wrongdoing.
Bottom line, your being videotape everyday doing everyday things so if you are at the mall or going to the asian massage parlor, smile cause you are on camera.
Wired.
[QUOTE=StudMuffin314;2587907]Thanks for your feedback. All I know is that if there are cameras, there could be recordings. And if it like you say (parking lot, entryway, etc), it still shows me walking to their door, ringing their bell, etc. I don't know about you, but I prefer to keep this hobby anonymous, and I'd hate to see any posted videos of me walking up to their door, ringing their bell, etc. Not worth the risk.[/QUOTE]Many AMP's now have cameras (with more getting them) and yes it will show you walking in and back out the door. It will also show you in the hallway, what room you went into and with what girl. You may not see the cameras and the girls may not tell you about them, but in many AMP's they have already been there for some time.
One of the reasons (and there are many) for this is for protection of the girl. Several months ago a girl was pushed by an un- happy drunk customer and fell down which resulted in her being injured, requiring hospitalization and having to take a month off work. One of the girls was able to get a license plate number, called the police and the customer was later arrested. With the recording ( and I saw it) there was no denying of what the customer did.
Like it or not, the use of cameras is probably here to stay.
[QUOTE=Wirelessone;2587983]Now, you may not see them but expect at most, but not necessarily every spa or apartment has some kind of videoing going on. It's one way to make sure the girl gives them the correct $. You know, trust but verify. Additionally, these spa and apartments can be robbed by the Chinese or asian mafia's cause they know ain't nobody going to call the police.
During raids by the police, the cops having been videotaped taking money and trying to find the videotaping equipment to remove evidence of their wrongdoing.
Bottom line, your being videotape everyday doing everyday things so if you are at the mall or going to the asian massage parlor, smile cause you are on camera.
Wired.[/QUOTE]The Chinese Mafia is not going to rob any AMP. If anything, the owners are already paying protection money. That's already been worked out.
[QUOTE=AvgJoe;2587994]The Chinese Mafia is not going to rob any AMP. If anything, the owners are already paying protection money. That's already been worked out.[/QUOTE]I think of when you pay the the extra where they put it with some places can have 4 or 5 other girls there some new some maybe don't get along with you know or where the keep it back at apartment cause all these girls stay together up words of 7 or8 . And now iam thinking again about tipping I can't believe girls keep full tip if so then they most charge them to work in safe environment housing food etc. Cause obviously a long average take home for say three girls over 7. Days 20 k and then the bosses with overhead is going to make good money but a good bit less find it hard there going to accepted the girls taking home that much.
I went again and followed everyones advice. Still got only one lady, but got BBBJ. Thanks to everyone. But what should I do to get service from more than one?
[QUOTE=Morry1;2588286]I went again and followed everyones advice. Still got only one lady, but got BBBJ. Thanks to everyone. But what should I do to get service from more than one?[/QUOTE]You just have to be there when they're not busy. Like when they first open. Never on a sat I'm told. Been there twice. First time had two, and briefly three. Second time it was three up until the finish then two for that. It happens, just know when to go.
[QUOTE=Langley08;2588105]I think of when you pay the the extra where they put it with some places can have 4 or 5 other girls there some new some maybe don't get along with you know or where the keep it back at apartment cause all these girls stay together up words of 7 or8 . And now iam thinking again about tipping I can't believe girls keep full tip if so then they most charge them to work in safe environment housing food etc. Cause obviously a long average take home for say three girls over 7. Days 20 k and then the bosses with overhead is going to make good money but a good bit less find it hard there going to accepted the girls taking home that much.[/QUOTE]I can't make any sense of this post. Or is it just me?
[QUOTE=Jadedone;2588647]I can't make any sense of this post. Or is it just me?[/QUOTE]I had a difficult time deciphering that one, even more so than many poster's "cryptic speak" haha.
[QUOTE=Jadedone;2588647]I can't make any sense of this post. Or is it just me?[/QUOTE]Several of his posts are in that jibberish. I have no idea what he is saying.
We need a translator for brother langley.
[QUOTE=Kellster;2588984]Several of his posts are in that jibberish. I have no idea what he is saying.[/QUOTE]
Diavolo. This happens when you eat to much Korean box. LOL.
[QUOTE=IlDiavolo;2588729]I had a difficult time deciphering that one, even more so than many poster's "cryptic speak" haha.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2589192]We need a translator for brother langley.[/QUOTE]I think we should get a French translator. She'll probably be as confused as we are, but at least she can help us out elsewhere haha!
[QUOTE=DMichaels69;2589194]Diavolo. This happens when you eat to much Korean box. LOL.[/QUOTE]Pork Fried Brain haha!
[QUOTE=Xxofe;2588636]You just have to be there when they're not busy. Like when they first open. Never on a sat I'm told. Been there twice. First time had two, and briefly three. Second time it was three up until the finish then two for that. It happens, just know when to go.[/QUOTE]During the week in the early afternoon has worked out well for me too. One time I was the only person in the place and had all 3 for my entire visit.
-w.
Same team guys, my bad, not my first post like that probably not my last, I am slight dyslexia and always post fast or for some reason I get logged out, plus never proof read an post either, don't kill a bad messenger. LOL crazy.