Massage Parlor Reports

I think we are very lucky to have the services offered in Belvidere.

Hard to believe there are some really cheap people out there who don't tip. Normally, they are the first to complain about the raise yet, they are the ones who forced it. Hey mongers-the girls have to make a living also!

I tip well and the girls know it. Yes, I have a good time.

There's my 2 cents-be safe out there!

Krlj918.

[QUOTE=PeterNorth9;2317053]Signs in the room say the girl gets $45. That was before price increase. Guess we will find out shortly if the girls share in the increase.

I travel all over the country, it is true ERS and CLV are pretty unique. Very few non-asian mp's exist, and the ones that do seem to all have rough-looking women. Toronto and Montreal, Canada are full of mp's like ERS and CLV, women are beautiful and pricing is very similar.[/QUOTE]

They will have to change all those signs now unless the ladies still get $45, which will be very bad.

[QUOTE=PeterNorth9;2317053]Signs in the room say the girl gets $45. That was before price increase. Guess we will find out shortly if the girls share in the increase.

I travel all over the country, it is true ERS and CLV are pretty unique. Very few non-asian mp's exist, and the ones that do seem to all have rough-looking women. Toronto and Montreal, Canada are full of mp's like ERS and CLV, women are beautiful and pricing is very similar.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Areyodeva;2317210]They will have to change all those signs now unless the ladies still get $45, which will be very bad.[/QUOTE]That's the part the bugs me. When management raised the price from 85-95 the ladies started receiving less then half the money for all their hard work. When it comes to the service industry where a single hard working person is providing a service for a single client I think it is fundamentally unfair for a third party to take that much. Even half is unfair IMHO.

It was wise to point out that there are few places like this in this country, and like someone else said, I will still go there, just a little less often. The reality is just one visit less a year for me will more than make up for the added cost. Heck, with the gas prices down so much from what they have been it might still be a net gain, so I will have to look at the overall economics.

2 to report for this week. Been awhile since I have been to Belvidere. Went out on New Year's Eve to CLV, which was closed. No sign or anything to explain this. So I went to ERS thinking I might get lucky and catch Laura. No such luck. So I went with Jasmine, who was behind the desk. Young, probably early 20's, long curly black hair, tall, great rack. Massage was OK, technique was OK, she was a little into it. Not very conversational, but a fantastic body. I would repeat.

Since I was denied my visit to CLV on New Year's Eve, I went back today and saw my all-time favorite Sophia. The woman is simply gorgeous and has not aged one bit over the years. I'm not sure how old she is. Late 40's?. But her body is so incredible. She gives a great massage, very friendly, and her teasing technique puts her over the top for me. Every visit with her is great. She even washed the lotion off my back when we were done. Sweet, sexy lady!

I was at ERS today and the signs have changed. Essentially, the price went up. 10 and the house and the girl split the raise. So, I think it's a fair proposition. By the way, my session with Danielle was fantastic. Well worth the price increase.

Johnny.

I am not too strongly against the ERS price increase, but do think the split should be more 70/30 - with 70% to the girl and 30% to management. Seems to me Management is getting more than needed to run the business and make a decent profit. When I first discovered these places it was similar prices and even cheaper than strip club VIP rooms and you get more and don't have to be concerned with high drink prices, tipping, or unexpected / disappointing results.

To keep some of the decent talent, the girls have to make enough money to be interested to stay. Not sure of the number of sessions each girl does, but I was told was about 3 a day was average and most girls only work 3 days a week.

Told 2 older but still attractive dancers about this place and each initially seemed interested, but were not too happy of the then $45 cut a girl gets per 45-60 minute when at their club they get $75 for a 30-40 minute VIP room out of the $125 cost to a customer. So even with a $20 tip they would still be at less per session, but might make more overall if they "get more work. ".

The major drawback for me is now a "Russian" finish session would now be the same price at ERS as the Rockford shops without tip and more expensive with a tip.

[QUOTE=Rainman5000;2318713]... Not sure of the number of sessions each girl does, but I was told was about 3 a day was average and most girls only work 3 days a week.
[/QUOTE]I have been told by more than one attendant at ERS that the normal number is more like 6+ so at an average wage of 50 plus 25 tip. With say a 48 week year that works out to just a little over 60 k. Not bad since I'm pretty sure they aren't paying taxes on much if any of their tips. According to Danielle, and way back in the day Jenny, the most popular girls on the busiest days go from appointment to appointment getting as many as 8 or 9 in a 10 hour day. More than once I have had a scheduled appointment only to find out that she was not quite out of session. But even at 3/ pay that works out to 32 k for a part time job, not to bad.

[QUOTE=Xxofe;2319467]I have been told by more than one attendant at ERS that the normal number is more like 6+ so at an average wage of 50 plus 25 tip. With say a 48 week year that works out to just a little over 60 k. Not bad since I'm pretty sure they aren't paying taxes on much if any of their tips. According to Danielle, and way back in the day Jenny, the most popular girls on the busiest days go from appointment to appointment getting as many as 8 or 9 in a 10 hour day. More than once I have had a scheduled appointment only to find out that she was not quite out of session. But even at 3/ pay that works out to 32 k for a part time job, not to bad.[/QUOTE]I doubt the average is 6 sessions per day, or the average tip is 25. The standard tip I was taught was 20 and I never have yet given more than this, and since the tip is not mandated or necessary to get the core service and guys may have increased expectation because of CL and ELB in nearby Rockford I can see a lot of guys stiffing the girls on a tip. I am sure on busy days they might do 6 sessions in a day, but bad days (and every stripper, masseuage, escort, etc) I have ever known has numerous bad days and they bring the averages way down. For example in a 10 working day period of -- 6, 4, 3, 5, 2, 6, 1, 5, 2, 3 = 37 or 3. 7 per day.

What ever the ladies make is none of our concern, that is too personal!! I donk think it is our place to discuss that since it is mostly speculation.

[QUOTE=Rainman5000;2319758]I doubt the average is 6 sessions per day, or the average tip is 25. The standard tip I was taught was 20 and I never have yet given more than this, and since the tip is not mandated or necessary to get the core service and guys may have increased expectation because of CL and ELB in nearby Rockford I can see a lot of guys stiffing the girls on a tip. I am sure on busy days they might do 6 sessions in a day, but bad days (and every stripper, masseuage, escort, etc) I have ever known has numerous bad days and they bring the averages way down. For example in a 10 working day period of -- 6, 4, 3, 5, 2, 6, 1, 5, 2, 3 = 37 or 3. 7 per day.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Pedorro;2320463]What ever the ladies make is none of our concern, that is too personal!! I donk think it is our place to discuss that since it is mostly speculation.[/QUOTE]I agree completely. I think the ones that are complaining are the cheap asses.

Had a nice time yesterday with Tina, no new or enhanced endings for the increase. Same great Russian finish as usual, same great ERS service as always. However, after being a regular for 20+ years at ERS, I will spend more time going to Geisha in Madtown and get everything for 20-40 more. ERS is pushing the pricing plateau for a HE, when you can get a strip club HJ for less than half of the ERS entry fee. Way back in the day, there was no tipping even expected at ERS, times are a changing.

[QUOTE=KingSalami;2321832]Had a nice time yesterday with Tina, no new or enhanced endings for the increase. Same great Russian finish as usual, same great ERS service as always. However, after being a regular for 20+ years at ERS, I will spend more time going to Geisha in Madtown and get everything for 20-40 more. ERS is pushing the pricing plateau for a HE, when you can get a strip club HJ for less than half of the ERS entry fee. Way back in the day, there was no tipping even expected at ERS, times are a changing.[/QUOTE]Agree on Geisha and Mtown, much more bang for the buck! IMO BP options are much better too, just sayin.

Anyone ever ask the girl to work the prostate with her free hand while working the sausage with the other? If so, did they do it or look at you like you were crazy.

Never asked, was told that people do ask for it. My regular don't do it, not sure who does it.

[QUOTE=Datsurman;2324189]Anyone ever ask the girl to work the prostate with her free hand while working the sausage with the other? If so, did they do it or look at you like you were crazy.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Datsurman;2324189]Anyone ever ask the girl to work the prostate with her free hand while working the sausage with the other? If so, did they do it or look at you like you were crazy.[/QUOTE]Jenny used to do a great outside, around the rime type of finish, a few others have done that without even asking. Just as a natural reaction I tend to bring one leg up a bit, I think that some of the ladies take this Que and offer another hand. But I have never sought this out or asked for it. All though done right it is pretty fantastic.

I finally bit and went yesterday to ERS. I choose Liz out of those available. Great personality, beautiful girl. Had a great time. So much fun that the hour flew by faster than I anticipated. I may have to look into multiple hour sessions cause I wasn't ready for it to be over.

I think I am getting names mixed up.

Is laura the younger, super fit, blonde girl that works mainly weekends?

I saw a girl who was, for my tastes, the prettiest I have seen. Pretty sure name was laura.

Have been a few times now, and experience has been varied each time. Spent anywhere between. 4 and. 8 for extras. 4 hand massage was nice and gave each. 4 after some negotiation. Massage itself has always been good, and the beds are great. Not sure if I'll go back as the lack of consistency / standard tips is a little frustrating. Last time tipped. 5 and the girl (can't remember name as they change often) was not at all happy. Sorry, but that's all I will pay for HE. She was upset I think because I asked her to remove top and she asked if I would "tip good". I thought that was pretty good, but I guess she disagreed. Managed to convince one for a little more than the rest, pm if interested.

[QUOTE=Dave992;2330468]Have been a few times now, and experience has been varied each time. Spent anywhere between. 4 and. 8 for extras. 4 hand massage was nice and gave each. 4 after some negotiation. Massage itself has always been good, and the beds are great. Not sure if I'll go back as the lack of consistency / standard tips is a little frustrating. Last time tipped. 5 and the girl (can't remember name as they change often) was not at all happy. Sorry, but that's all I will pay for HE. She was upset I think because I asked her to remove top and she asked if I would "tip good". I thought that was pretty good, but I guess she disagreed. Managed to convince one for a little more than the rest, pm if interested.[/QUOTE]$50 tip and she was upset, then I would be! I'd say go ahead there are 2 other places within a stones throw that would love a $50 tip and unless you're really into Asians probably much better selection. On that note got to ERS late last night and picked Dawn. Her bolt on's are not nearly as hard as they used to be and experience is always a plus as she is a very gifted lady, left very happy.

[QUOTE=Xxofe;2319467]I have been told by more than one attendant at ERS that the normal number is more like 6+ so at an average wage of 50 plus 25 tip. With say a 48 week year that works out to just a little over 60 k. Not bad since I'm pretty sure they aren't paying taxes on much if any of their tips. According to Danielle, and way back in the day Jenny, the most popular girls on the busiest days go from appointment to appointment getting as many as 8 or 9 in a 10 hour day. More than once I have had a scheduled appointment only to find out that she was not quite out of session. But even at 3/ pay that works out to 32 k for a part time job, not to bad.[/QUOTE]Can you imagine if the government legalized this and collected taxes from all the providers, parlors and transactions? It seems so simple. And the tax revenue would go a LONG way toward alleviating the financial problems our towns and great state are having. Nobody thought pot would ever be legalized. Now most people think it will be legal in every state in 10 years. Who thinks our hobby is next?

[QUOTE=VictorBishop;2062076]Does anyone know Nancy's age?[/QUOTE]Nancy is 48 and looks great in the dark. She has a pitted face pock face witch is very clear to see in natural light.

I'm surprised one of the many crooked IL politicians have not figured this out.

[QUOTE=Gigarange;2332458]Can you imagine if the government legalized this and collected taxes from all the providers, parlors and transactions? It seems so simple. And the tax revenue would go a LONG way toward alleviating the financial problems our towns and great state are having. Nobody thought pot would ever be legalized. Now most people think it will be legal in every state in 10 years. Who thinks our hobby is next?[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Gigarange;2332458]Can you imagine if the government legalized this and collected taxes from all the providers, parlors and transactions? It seems so simple. And the tax revenue would go a LONG way toward alleviating the financial problems our towns and great state are having. Nobody thought pot would ever be legalized. Now most people think it will be legal in every state in 10 years. Who thinks our hobby is next?[/QUOTE]Totally agree. It would not only add revenue from the mongers who live in the state it would also generate a lot from neighboring states. If they had red light districts it would help with more tourists, business travelers, etc. Coming here spending money. In addition to spending on the women, it would also help increase revenue for hotels, restaurants, casinos etc. It would be a big boom to the local economy. Just have to make sure to keep it safe- both crime wise and medically for the gals and guys- as well as keep it away from kids. Much better than those freakin' red light cameras anyway.

[QUOTE=Kellster;2335813]Totally agree. It would not only add revenue from the mongers who live in the state it would also generate a lot from neighboring states. If they had red light districts it would help with more tourists, business travelers, etc. Coming here spending money. In addition to spending on the women, it would also help increase revenue for hotels, restaurants, casinos etc. It would be a big boom to the local economy. Just have to make sure to keep it safe- both crime wise and medically for the gals and guys- as well as keep it away from kids. Much better than those freakin' red light cameras anyway.[/QUOTE]And the prices will skyrocket. There was a lot of conversation just recently about the price increases at ERS. How about 500 for a BJ. Or 800 for FS. That's the going rate at the bunny ranch. I know they are higher than anywhere else, but as soon as you start legitimizing this and taxing it the prices will go up. First of all, any taxes put on the business will be past on to customers. Then as the businesses attract more people the prices will increase with the demand. Then there is the added cost of licensing and health exams, etc.

The only way out would be a nation wide law, which will never pass. Or if it did it wouldn't look any thing like it should as every bit of social concern gets it's way. I can see a licensing bureau and a year long wait list while every worker gets checked out by uncle Sam to make sure she meets a long list of criteria.

Keep them out of our business I say.

[QUOTE=Xxofe;2335976]And the prices will skyrocket. There was a lot of conversation just recently about the price increases at ERS. How about 500 for a BJ. Or 800 for FS. That's the going rate at the bunny ranch. I know they are higher than anywhere else, but as soon as you start legitimizing this and taxing it the prices will go up. First of all, any taxes put on the business will be past on to customers. Then as the businesses attract more people the prices will increase with the demand. Then there is the added cost of licensing and health exams, etc.

The only way out would be a nation wide law, which will never pass. Or if it did it wouldn't look any thing like it should as every bit of social concern gets it's way. I can see a licensing bureau and a year long wait list while every worker gets checked out by uncle Sam to make sure she meets a long list of criteria.

Keep them out of our business I say.[/QUOTE]That's actually a real good point XXofe. After I posted it- I started thinking that could happen. And with the way politicians spend money like water- those rates would really increase which would bite. I guess both ways have their drawbacks. It would be cool to walk around the red light district like Amsterdam though.

[QUOTE=Xxofe;2335976]And the prices will skyrocket. There was a lot of conversation just recently about the price increases at ERS. How about 500 for a BJ. Or 800 for FS. That's the going rate at the bunny ranch. I know they are higher than anywhere else, but as soon as you start legitimizing this and taxing it the prices will go up. First of all, any taxes put on the business will be past on to customers. Then as the businesses attract more people the prices will increase with the demand. Then there is the added cost of licensing and health exams, etc.

The only way out would be a nation wide law, which will never pass. Or if it did it wouldn't look any thing like it should as every bit of social concern gets it's way. I can see a licensing bureau and a year long wait list while every worker gets checked out by uncle Sam to make sure she meets a long list of criteria.

Keep them out of our business I say.[/QUOTE]I would think that if it becomes ligitimate, there will be more providers who would want to facilitate that are currently drawn back. Also, the demand might increase too now that it has become ligit.

Also, the "infrastructure" they need to build to find if individual is a ligit monger or LEO will also be gone bringing the cost down.

So in my opinion, the cost will be driven by supply and demand. It is difficult to predict that it will only go up without having real stats on how many new providers will pop up compared to mongers.

[QUOTE=Kellster;2336916] It would be cool to walk around the red light district like Amsterdam though.[/QUOTE]I like the Canadian system, where it's not illegal for a single person to provide services to another without hassle. At least there you know the lady is there because she wants to be in the business, and not supporting a drug habit, or something worse.

It's bad enough that the house usually takes 50% or more, if the gov is involved they're going to get their 28% which I will pay, and maybe even some sort of sales tax. So my friendly hand shake goes from 120 to 200+ and the girl still only gets about 60.

And then they unionize. And you won't get the young hottie any more, you have to go with the old hag because she has seniority.

Price probably will go up depending on what the local markets will bear. For Belvidere not too much.

[QUOTE=HomeSlice;2330309]I think I am getting names mixed up.

Is laura the younger, super fit, blonde girl that works mainly weekends?

I saw a girl who was, for my tastes, the prettiest I have seen. Pretty sure name was laura.[/QUOTE]Yeah, Laura is who I was thinking of. She actually has darker hair with blonder ends. Great massage as usual.

[QUOTE=Modena006;2337295]Price probably will go up depending on what the local markets will bear. For Belvidere not too much.[/QUOTE]Hence pricing elasticity. The greater the demand the more we are willing to pay. We have subs for service available however with the heat We can Inadvertently thank LEO for this. What they obviously don't understand is that they are creating a larger demand which can lead to bigger problems not only for our pocket books but the community too. What else should we expect when the trough jumps ditch to ditch only seeing black and white. No thinking involved simply knee jerk reactions with no thought to long term effects, such idiots. They are the ones helping drive the prices and we are the ones willing to pay.

I went to ERS to see Nancy today. It seemed like the increase didn't effect business because it was really busy when I was there. To all of those complaining, just pay. The best service is actually at ERS. CLV, the Asian spas just suck. 10 bucks. Not that important.

[QUOTE=Ohyou812;2340458]I went to ERS to see Nancy today. It seemed like the increase didn't effect business because it was really busy when I was there. To all of those complaining, just pay. The best service is actually at ERS. CLV, the Asian spas just suck. 10 bucks. Not that important.[/QUOTE]I would not be quick to write-off CLV. I would agree that you can't go wrong with any girl at ERS. I would say though that Sophia at CLV is special, best hand skills I have ever experienced. She can bring you right up to the edge and then bring you back down, and will do it as long as you can stand it. I also like that curvy, MILF look she has going. I also like Jenna too, but that is it for CLV. You are right though, ERS is good across the board, I have never had a bad experience at ERS.

Pn9.

[QUOTE=Ohyou812;2340458]I went to ERS to see Nancy today. It seemed like the increase didn't effect business because it was really busy when I was there. To all of those complaining, just pay. The best service is actually at ERS. CLV, the Asian spas just suck. 10 bucks. Not that important.[/QUOTE]Just reduce your tip by 10.

Stopped in CLV and saw my favorite there, Jennah. She is an Italian MILF and curvy. Great massage and conversation. She is a rare one because she loves her job. Also enjoy Sophia there. Also noticed that Angela ex ERS was now working at CLV.

[QUOTE=CarpeDium;2343535]Just reduce your tip by 10.[/QUOTE]I'm sorry but that's just plain rude in my opinion. It's not the girls fault the prices were raised. I will still give them what I feel they deserve without being a cheap ass.

Fellow mongers:

We are fortunate enough to have a place like ERS. People come from far and away to experience their excellent services. Personally, I find the review / postings hilarious-how many time have we seen the following quote, "went to ERS and met with (pick a name) and now she is my ATF?

Lets face it, they are all good in their own way.

I think you should be embarrassed to ***** about a lousy $10.00 increase and want to stick it to the girls. Really, how cheap can a person get.

Be safe and enjoy.

Krlj918.

[QUOTE=CarpeDium;2343535]Just reduce your tip by 10.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Krlj918;2354308]Fellow mongers:

We are fortunate enough to have a place like ERS. People come from far and away to experience their excellent services. Personally, I find the review / postings hilarious-how many time have we seen the following quote, "went to ERS and met with (pick a name) and now she is my ATF?

Lets face it, they are all good in their own way.

I think you should be embarrassed to ***** about a lousy $10.00 increase and want to stick it to the girls. Really, how cheap can a person get.

Be safe and enjoy.

Krlj918.[/QUOTE]I could not agree more. These Ladies already have difficult jobs. And before you flame me, it's the truth, think about what they do EVERY DAY to make sure EVERY guy feels special. If I ever become that cheap I hope I would have the sense to give up the hobby. At best one could counsel one less trip for every 10 trips. They raised the fee by 10, so if I canceled every 11th trip I would still spend as much money, so what I loose out once or twice a year? But if I piss off the ladies enough by being cheap on the tips I loose a lot more.

Over the course of a year, if I went once a month, it would cost me the cost of one visit, a lousy $120 If I can't afford that then I probably should be doing something different with my money.

So I was told on my most recent trip that the tips have gone down and this is what's going on:

Lets say the old door fee was 95 so an avg person who would take out 120 will give 95 door fee plus the remaining 25 as a tip. Now after the recent increase that person still takes out 120 and now the girl only get 15 tip.

Now business hasn't gone down they are seeing the same amount of people infact some days are better then others but yes customers have started tipping less.

Met [B]Nina[/B] for the first time last week. I know she's one of the vets, but most of my previous visits occurred during her hiatus. For reference, I've had sessions with Laura, Danielle, Liz, Tina, Amanda, and Nancy. Where do I rank Nina in this group? At the very top.

Nina is a tall drink of water, with one of the best all-natural bodies at ERS. I don't recall seeing any tattoos. If she does have them, they're minimal at best. Her body is soft / firm in all the right places. Well-proportioned breasts and a glorious ass are highlights, but I have to give 1st place to that sexy blonde head on her shoulders. Nina is drop-dead gorgeous, with an awesome voice and attitude to match.

She is straight-up [I]fearless[/I] in the jacuzzi, making me seriously question the mental health of anybody who skips that option with her. That feather touch technique she employs at key moments of the massage is excruciating in its playfulness, with just the right amount of tease. Her oily body-to-body experience is outstanding and lovingly drawn out, unlike other token efforts I've had here.

Nina strikes that perfect balance between friendly and erotic. She doesn't talk your ear off when you're obviously in the moment. But hit on a topic that peaks her interest, and she'll light up like a Christmas tree. I love that flexibility, since I can talk when I want to, but also lay there in silence without it feeling awkward.

Best of all, Nina has that special gift of screwing your brain up into thinking she might actually break the house rules. During my flip, there were multiple times where I was [I]convinced[/I] she was about to go where no other ERS masseuse has gone before. I know some people might find that bit of mindfuckery annoying, but it takes the whole experience to the next level for me.

I know I'm late to the Nina party. But I made it, and I'm a better man for it. Cheers!

[B]Nina[/B]
Looks 9.
Attitude 10.
Massage 7.
Finish 10.