What strikes me about this conversation isn't if the guy should have used a gun or pepper spray. What gets me is his call for help from police. I'd rather use pepper spray on myself than involve the same people I wish would stay out of my business.
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What strikes me about this conversation isn't if the guy should have used a gun or pepper spray. What gets me is his call for help from police. I'd rather use pepper spray on myself than involve the same people I wish would stay out of my business.
[QUOTE=Michael Caffey]I really hate the term "antisocial personality".
As someone who was clinically diagnosed a sociopath at age 4, I am well aware of the miss conceptions out there. We are not the same as psychopaths for one thing. They are insane, dilusional. The vast majority of sociopaths lead relatively normal lives because we are not insane. With the exception of the most extreme cases, psychopaths can be treated with both counciling and pharmacology. Sociopaths can only be counciled.
Only 1 person out of 12 needs to agree with your reasoning for defending yourself. Those are great odds compared to say, the Florida Lottery.
I reiterate. The best way to handle the situation that spawned our posts is to avoid it all together.[/QUOTE]
The various words to describe this condition are as I stated. For you to be diagnosed as a sociopath at 4 years old would be incorrect, Psychiatrists and Psychologists must use a standard, that standard is the DSM-4 soon to be replaced with the DSM-5, you could not be Clinically diagnosed until you were 15--18 yrs. old.
At the current time there is no know pharmaceutical or cognitive therapy to treat this condition. It's important to note that these labels are an aggregate of various behaviors, the sociopath usually fall into 4 subcategories, from people who live on the bottom of society to some who live at the top. Many Psychiatrists believe George Bush Jr. is a sociopath as well as Heather Mills , Paul Mc Cartneys ex wife.( this is not a political statement, just an example) Currently the belief is that there is no cure,you are born and die with the condition.
One of the leading indicators is pathological lying and a constant plea for pity, if you find someone who is constantly telling you stories that invoke your need to be compassionate and help them, the are probably a sociopath.
Michael, most people have a conscience and as such would have to live with constant thoughts of guilt and remorse if they killed someone even if it was justified. I agree that the best way is to avoid the situation but if the situation occurs how you handle it can determine what happens to the rest of your life.
This teaching moment brought to you by---VS
[QUOTE=Michael Caffey]I am glad that Very Slowly is here to be the voice of reason and represent the non-violent philosophy. I for one feel no remorse for anything, so I am not encumbered by guilt in general. I do not say that to mock. I genuinely have a hard time identifying with that mode of thinking.
While the non-violent approach certainly may work to save you life, it may also fail. In a choice between you and someone else, there is no room for anything but pure self interest. In a situation like that it is best to shoot first and ask questions later.
Of course the best course of action of all is to avoid that sort of situation to begin with. So props of spreading the word Alert.
On a side note , a little gunplay now and then might keep the ripoff artists in check, so maybe it has its place in this sub-culture/lifestyle as well.[/QUOTE]
I feel terrible if I accidently run over a squirrel!
I have to agree with you, michael caffey, in the sense that if some of the hobbyists protected themselves then not as many ripoff artists would try it. I know that these actions wouldn't deter crime, but why let folks hurt you if they're going to take your money anyway?. Not all of us are made the same and I understand that some guys practice being nonviolent, god bless those that do. I just reason that you shouldn't look for trouble but if it happens to find you then, by all means necessary, you should be equipped to care of such problems.
[QUOTE=Vino 7373]I feel terrible if I accidently run over a squirrel![/QUOTE]
....but more than that....I just want to get laid. Any suggestions??
WOF
[QUOTE=WaltLewis] I just reason that you shouldn't look for trouble but if it happens to find you then, by all means necessary, you should be equipped to care of such problems.[/QUOTE]
I don't disagree. But please check my post on the Brevard page. If you have a CWP and carry into a place of nuisance (e.g. incall) you can be charged with a felony (I think). That changes your whole life including livelihood.
If you are that worried about the environs, maybe you should choose another provider. And as others stated, don't bring stuff with you that you cannot lose (e.g. wallet of cash)
Stay safe.
[QUOTE=Worldsoffun]....but more than that....I just want to get laid.
Any suggestions?
WOF[/QUOTE]I couldn't agree more. Can we please get back on point?
OK guys...let's continue the protection discussion in the general discussion area and let's back to reviewing pussy from backpage here...
Lauren is back in town and is hot as always
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Has anyone met with Ashley Moore since she started posting on BP recently? [url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sunshine-state-dream-girl-cummm-play-specials-21/2748937[/url]
I am interested in not only whether she is really the girl in the picture and how things went but also what the heck is her pricing structure? The text in this ad really has me scratching my head as to what her prices line up to. There seems to be an all access special but I cannot tell how much it is. Any help would be appreciated. Post or PM is fine.
GP
During the last couple of months, there's a certain provider that I warned you all about. When I met her, she was strolling OBT. Because of this, I balked at her asking price of $, and walked out. I also reported that my friend, who isn't on this board, had a bad experience with her. Since one of the members posted a good experience with her partner, and I wanted to actually get with her, I decided to go against my own advice, and went to see her.
When I arrrived, her handlers were nowhere in sight. I thought she lost a little weight, but was still attractive. I had the fee of a $, in a bank envelope I thought was empty. I removed the bill from the envelope, and tossed the bank envelope on the nightstand. When the games began, I thought her cbj was above par, and I genuinely enjoyed our time together. I let her know how I was enjoying her throughout the session.
As I was cleaning myself up, she came up to me and handed me the bank envelope. Emphasizing her honesty, she said that I left some thing in the envelope, and she didn't know how much it was. I quickly realized that I had an extra $ bill in there. Naturally, I was puzzled by this sudden act of honesty. Especially from someone whom I've known to rip-off a few guys. I wanted to give her something extra, but I only had the full $ bill. Not wanting to turn her moment of honesty sour, especially when her handlers were waiting for her to open the door downstairs. I promised her I'd somehow compensate her in the near future, and managed to slip by her and her handlers with my whole $ bill intact.
I think she deserves .30 as compensation, but I haven't been back to see her yet. I lucked out on that one.
You notice I left her name out on purpose. Because I'm afraid she may face repercussions from her handlers if the read this.
Snow Plow.
Lmao, I agree lets get back to the female version, smdh, cause they don't make real men like they use to.
At any one time there are dozens of women advertising on BP and or CL. Many come and go for short periods of time. I know there has been a few who used to advertise cryptic ads in the classified sections of various newspapers, but where did they advertise before the interenet in Orlando? Were they mostly SWs? In other towns that I have lived in there were slick adult entertainment advertising flyers available around town that listed strip clubs, massage parlors, and escort ads. I've not seen any thing like that here.
Ya'll have been very naughty and indeed some need a spanking * wink*.
[QUOTE=Dicktracey]At any one time there are dozens of women advertising on BP and or CL. Many come and go for short periods of time. I know there has been a few who used to advertise cryptic ads in the classified sections of various newspapers, but where did they advertise before the interenet in Orlando? Were they mostly SWs? In other towns that I have lived in there were slick adult entertainment advertising flyers available around town that listed strip clubs, massage parlors, and escort ads. I've not seen any thing like that here.[/QUOTE]
They used to Adv. in the Orlando Post (personals) a penny-saver type paper. They also used to adv. in the Orlando weekly but LE made a big stupid arrest of their advertising salespeople at a job fair of all places--anything for LE publicity. And now you have to have a license to adv. in their paper.
So the internet is the place now, at least it has pics, some fake but in the past you never had a clue what was behind the door. The good thing was that LE left them alone.---VS
I travel to Orlando on occasion and recently visited with Chocolate Kelly. This was a great experieince and the girl has a dynamite ass (although I declined it at $$ extra).
There are two very attractive women who post during the week in the Backpage Body Rubs section, and appear to run an in-call on 436 and Howell Branch. There prices are reasonable, and I have read a few positive reviews that are a bit ancient. Just wondering if anyone could give me the 411 on these ladies.
Thanks guys!
PM or post is fine.
Hello,
Can someone answer a question for me please?
Had the pleasure of seeing her at a very nice hotel by the airport. Wish I lasted longer, but she was so hot, anyway was still worth the trip and price $. 5 to spend some quality time with her. She plays it safe and all covered but it was still a hot experience from what I think is a beautiful gal 8. 5 to me pics are who she really is.
Be safe!
Not sure if I posted about this chick, but I'm pretty sure I did not. Goes by Christina-real pics. Hot little chick skinny yet a little soft in the tush, sweet little punnani. Downside is pump and dump, no GFE, a little bit crazy and paranoid. Not the best experience but I like them dumb. Would consider 15 min or 1/2 hr not worth the hr for 1 cup-IMHO.
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[QUOTE=DirtyMonarch]I realize this is the review section and i have been starting to share info with you guys lately, so I was wondering if anyone cared to reciprocate? I was wondering if anyones seen milea from the below ad:
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Anyone?[/QUOTE]Nobody has seen this chick?. I've been sharing with you guys with no reciprocity. Oh well. I'll be in town this weekend and will report next week unless I hear yeah or neah from someone. Feel free to pm if you're shy.
[QUOTE=Lca1349]There are two very attractive women who post during the week in the Backpage Body Rubs section, and appear to run an in-call on 436 and Howell Branch. There prices are reasonable, and I have read a few positive reviews that are a bit ancient. Just wondering if anyone could give me the 411 on these ladies.
Thanks guys!
PM or post is fine.[/QUOTE]
I know Karina personally,at that time it was not appropriate for me to have a session with her. I can tell you she is intelligent, worldly, cautious and has huge jugs. My guess is that you'll have a great time for very little money.---VS
I have seen Karina, very good massage. Not much for extras, but left happy. Sexy woman, great massage, handshake in the end. Great for the price.
After looking I found this link which has memories of girls including Stef.
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I have met up with Karina a few times..once I took advantage of the two girl special.
Good looking and has very good hands..YMMV but had an exceptional time each time I see her.
Had a dream about this pair last weekend.
Sorry for not posting sooner.
They were visiting from Tampa.
Very clean, very friendly, and easy to reach. I had a great time in the dream and I would recommend. They made a newbie feel at ease.
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These two girls from pics they look and and wanted to know if anyone had dreams with them.
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And the second one someone asked for info but did not get answer so I will ask again.
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I found this add to be right on and wanted to share with our members and what the guy is stating is very true!
The addas are posted on backpage and CL etc.
We have legit providers here on the board that can take care of the hobbyes instead of waisting their time on the miss connect no strings attach etc.
See below
You guys are F-ING IDIOTS. Don't fall for these ads!
Posted: April 8, 2010, 11:35 AM
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I'm fed up with all of these ad sites and I'm paying my dollar to Backpage for this ad to let you guys know what I've found out from trying to find women on Craigslist, Backpage and other sites:
Every woman, EVERY ad on these sites is fake, or just a come on for some b/s dating site
Can you actually name one fucking dude who has hooked up here? No.
I mean, get real; Hot, 23 year old chicks don't look for hook ups online! And "milfs" especially. What a joke.
Here is what I found out after answering about 100 ads: If you want to hook up, it's going to happen is with someone who is a swinger. Why? Because that's what swingers do: They hook up for the fun of just having sex. DUH.
Once I started really looking into it I found some sites that are for swingers where it's actually possible to meet women
There's a ton of them but the one I found that has worked for me is [url]http://www.Swingerdatelink.com[/url]
And before y'all start emailing me and asking: NO, I'm not making money on this, NO, I don't work for this site, and NO you don't have to pay to join the site. In fact I had to pay backpage a buck to post this fucking ad.
I'm doing this for dudes who are tired of all the bullshit on sites like CList, Bpage and all those other f-ed up dating sites. I'm sick of wasting my money. If you are even halfway normal, you'll hook up sooner rather than later if you know where to look. I'm sure there's others but swingerdatelink worked for me.
I met ASHLEY MOORE once and took the advangate of greek tour at .80.
She seemed not the girl in the pics.
She had a great personality and enthusiasm.
I cannot comment her skill. For me, it is above average.
Another girl worked with her.
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My 1st post.
Kelly Welch is back in Orlando this weekend.
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Well I've been trying to add a report to work my way out of newbie status, but that doesn't seem to be happening. So here are three non-reports I've managed over the last 2 weeks:
My first choice was Lucia/Lucy. Every time I've tried to call her over the last 2 weeks it's gone straight to voicemail, and yes I even left a message. The one time she did answer she said she was sick and to try again the next day. Of course when I did, straight to voicemail again. Strike 1!
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Then I decided to settle on a more known quantity, LaDiva. She's been posting for as long as I can remember. Scheduled an appointment for 6pm last Tuesday. Was instructed to call her at 6 when I was at the Millenia Mall. I called and waited till 6:30 trying to call her with no answer. Big waste of time to have to drive 30 minutes. Strike 2!
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Then today I opted for a VERY known quantity, Jenna. She's a loooongtime BP poster and even a Real Deal, so I figured no problems right? First time I called she picked right up. Sounded sweet on the phone, and we made an appointment. Was told to call her 30 minutes before the appointment to verify, and low an behold, after 30 minutes of calling and even leaving a message, no answer! Wow, strike 3!
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I can't imagine I give off a Leo vibe on the phone, but with such well known providers blowing me off, who knows.
[QUOTE=Originalgamer]Well I've been trying to add a report to work my way out of newbie status, but that doesn't seem to be happening. So here are three non-reports I've managed over the last 2 weeks:
My first choice was Lucia/Lucy. Every time I've tried to call her over the last 2 weeks it's gone straight to voicemail, and yes I even left a message. The one time she did answer she said she was sick and to try again the next day. Of course when I did, straight to voicemail again. Strike 1!
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Then I decided to settle on a more known quantity, LaDiva. She's been posting for as long as I can remember. Scheduled an appointment for 6pm last Tuesday. Was instructed to call her at 6 when I was at the Millenia Mall. I called and waited till 6:30 trying to call her with no answer. Big waste of time to have to drive 30 minutes. Strike 2!
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Then today I opted for a VERY known quantity, Jenna. She's a loooongtime BP poster and even a Real Deal, so I figured no problems right? First time I called she picked right up. Sounded sweet on the phone, and we made an appointment. Was told to call her 30 minutes before the appointment to verify, and low an behold, after 30 minutes of calling and even leaving a message, no answer! Wow, strike 3!
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I can't imagine I give off a Leo vibe on the phone, but with such well known providers blowing me off, who knows.[/QUOTE]
We've all felt the sting of missed appts. It really sucks when they don't pick-up for the second call. You drive there with the anticipation of being with a woman and can't even get them to pick up the phone.
The most reliable provider I know of is Gianna in Casselberry. She answers her phone or calls back in a timely manner. She also makes her appts on time.
You can simply put her name in the search this thread function on the Real Deal thread and read my review. She's worth checking out for her performance, reliablility, and gift range.
You are something else.
I have never did BBBJ.
There is not anyone who can say I have
And I am far from cold. Maybe it was just you and the way you was treating me.
Also, let me correct that I ONLY LIKE older men and not young.
I am so sick of these crazy lies you guys think up.
(only if it apply's)
I am a cool chick but I play it safe.
I am not going to feed into the lies and drama just because I will not do certain things that is requested because I am all about safety.
I am a all time worker.
That means I work wherever the money is.
And I never had a pimp
Just grow up and forget my name.
I can careless about what two or three people say most of all.
When them 3 people haven't seen me.
Just posting like they have.
Have a good day.
Strawberrie
OriginalGamer,
One thing you might want to do is make sure you aren't blocking caller ID when you call back. Most ladies don't take calls from a private number.
At least you got to the second call. I'm batting zero these days. Wednesday and Thursday I called Lucy or Lucia she advertises under both and about 4 other providers with no answer or call back. I know for a fact my number shows up and have left voicemails just asking for a returned call politly.
If they don't want to make money thats their issue. Either they are super busy or just flakes.
I have to agree, Gianna is a great real deal and very reliable.
I would like to second Gianna just commented on by Vino. She is great with appointments and gets it moving fast. Drawbacks are she is in to 420 big time and her voice sounds like she just had her vocal chords scraped. She always smells of cigarettes
Here I was wondering if I had another flake on my hands! After a long weekend of wondering why I was missing calls and hadn't heard the phone ring, I found out that it was time for another new phone!
I have a new phone now, so no more issues!
I saw my backpage friend Rebecca again today. For 0.8/hh I think this is one of the best values out there. She does everything covered, so if bbbj is your thing don't count on it. The thing I like best about her is that she really gets into the sex. She enjoys what she is doing and it shows. She was working with another girl for a few weeks, but the other girl has moved on. She also has a great round bottom if you like that. If she only did bbbj she would move to my atf list.
I’ve been reading about Natalie Orion, here, and on another board. Her ads and website intrigued me. It helps to read them as she has a very specific routine. She’s cute, vocal, and very smart. We had a little trouble finding a time that worked for both of us, but a few emails finally led to a wonderful dream. In it I brought her a NY Times, some flowers and a Starbucks, which delighted her and she jumped right in with a big kiss. We hit it off right away and the dream continued with more kissing, caressing, and methodical disrobing. Those gorgeous titties almost made it a wet dream right there. It was an unusually long dream, with plenty of acronyms, the most important of which - GFE. She is a naturally beautiful, voluptuous young lady. I highly recommend.
I tried to take a test ride with Jodie ([url]http://orlando.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/80-i-can-make-you-real-relax-80-24/2350692[/url]) without success. Either she doesn't pick up or her mailbox is full. Has anyone had better luck?
I finaly got an answer and booked a next day apt. I've seen her body pics and am pleased if that's her. does anyone know if she's good looking in the face? GFE? And any other helpful info. PM is fine if you prefer. Thanks a ton in advanced.
On a second note thanks to hobby funds being better I had to visit Gianna for the 5th time. Although she's a real deal but she's 10+ years older than me. I only see her when other potential endevors don't return phone calls. Any newbie should get his hobby cherry popped by her. She was my first. Besides massage parlor fun.