I wouldn't hold my breath, waiting. TOS
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I wouldn't hold my breath, waiting. TOS
Hey Folks,
I am up from Raleigh this week, and would like someone to steer me the right way. I have been to Bottoms Up on previous visits, but in all honesty the last time I was up, was about a year ago, and it wasnt very impressive.
Was reading the forums, but with the abr. It is hard to figure out what some of the clubs are. I can look them up on Map-quest if I get the right name and a good review. Hope things have picked up here, they have been dragging in NC.
Silverhair
Best clubs for extra attention is Jens Den and 1245. But not all girls are down. Plus a lot of new girls. So you have to be careful. You need to give them a lapdance interview and kinda hint and see where it goes.
Good luck
[QUOTE=Silverhair]Hey Folks,
I am up from Raleigh this week, and would like someone to steer me the right way. I have been to Bottoms Up on previous visits, but in all honesty the last time I was up, was about a year ago, and it wasnt very impressive.
Was reading the forums, but with the abr. It is hard to figure out what some of the clubs are. I can look them up on Map-quest if I get the right name and a good review. Hope things have picked up here, they have been dragging in NC.
Silverhair[/QUOTE]
You should add Georgie's to that list, although on average the women there aren't as attractive as at Jen's and the Club. The VIP room is better, however.
[QUOTE=Low Key]Best clubs for extra attention is Jens Den and 1245. But not all girls are down. Plus a lot of new girls. So you have to be careful. You need to give them a lapdance interview and kinda hint and see where it goes.
Good luck[/QUOTE]
Thanks for the help folks.
I will give them a try tonight and tomorrow.
Thanks again.
There's a fairly new dancer at Jen's who says she used to work at Christie's in Cleveland. She's a very attractive petite blonde named Missy, and has a bit of a speech impediment. Anybody have any intel on her? You can PM me if you'd prefer to keep it private.
Drove by Jen's late Friday/early Saturday morning hours. It was probably around closing time (2AM?), and there were 2 cop cars in the parking lot, and another 1-2 across the street. Any idea what went down?
I spent some time in some clubs today. It was a good day.
I started the tour at Centerfolds (Archwood near Kelly). There were three girls working the floor. Well worth checking out. I have a new favorite there now. I did not take advantage of the VIP. So, no input there. But all of the dancers were most excellent. Very attentive. Left with digits.
I then ventured on to Kelly's Club (South St., Attached to the Iron Saddle). This one sucked. They have no heat. My teeth were chattering so much, I couldn't finish my beer. The dancers were too cold to dance. This was just after they opened, 4:30 or so. The two little electric fireplaces may heat it up enough later in the evening.
I jetted up to CW's (South St.) There were five dancers working. It was also a good experience. Again, I didn't take advantage of the VIP. I did get some digits from a favorite dancer. Will check into that later and keep you posted.
Finally, I wrapped up my excursion at the Lucky Corner. Yeah, It hasn't changed much. When I arrived the only dancer was on her way out for dinner. That left me and the bartender for a short while. Patrons came and went. Before I left, two dancers did arrive. I was on my way out and didn't stick around. I like this bar. However, not one of my better experiences there.
I think Centefold's gave the best experience this time out. I will have to stop in there more.
I am trying to find Wisper's club on South St.
Anyone know where it is?
[QUOTE=EpicReflection]I am trying to find Wisper's club on South St.
Anyone know where it is?[/QUOTE]Well, I've never been there. But, it comes up as 349 E. South St. when you search it on google maps. If you are familiar with that area, It sits on the corner where the walking bridge lets out on the south side of 76. Anyone have any reviews on this one?
I went to JENS DEN last night and got a few girls dances and what not. Then this def girl gives me a few dances and asks if I want a private party. I said sure how much. 100. I said fine. But I got a friend with me. She said ok. 200 for both. I said deal. She follows me all the way to canton to gas station to the motel and everything. Comes in takes off hoodie and puts keys down. She said she was going to grab a cig. Took the money and put it in her bra on the way out. I really didn't think much. Then see her car bolt. She left her hoodie and keys in the room? So I go down to the club today to confront her and she plays dumb and they back her up. SHE IS a SCAM. I'm not sure what to do. Any advice. I'm not the violent type. I told the owner and he said. So what. Am I spose to do something?
[QUOTE=Low Key]I went to JENS DEN last night and got a few girls dances and what not. Then this def girl gives me a few dances and asks if I want a private party. I said sure how much. 100. I said fine. But I got a friend with me. She said ok. 200 for both. I said deal. She follows me all the way to canton to gas station to the motel and everything. Comes in takes off hoodie and puts keys down. She said she was going to grab a cig. Took the money and put it in her bra on the way out. I really didn't think much. Then see her car bolt. She left her hoodie and keys in the room? So I go down to the club today to confront her and she plays dumb and they back her up. SHE IS a SCAM. I'm not sure what to do. Any advice. I'm not the violent type. I told the owner and he said. So what. Am I spose to do something?[/QUOTE]Nothing you can do but learn from the experience. Don't let the money leave the room til services have been rendered.
Not piling on, but complaining to the owner re. take-out gone bad is not likely to yield any sympathy. What did you honestly expect them to do? Other than kick you out.
Sorry it didn't work out - better luck next time.
[QUOTE=EpicReflection]I am trying to find Wisper's club on South St.
Anyone know where it is?[/QUOTE]
I've never been there but I think it is (or was) on the north side of South st between the bus station and that place that had some tables out front. Sorry for the poor direction but I don't get up that way much anymore. A couple of years ago some BU dancers were telling me that it wasn't known for having the hottest girls and was mostly a black club in the make up of dancers and customers. If I remember it didn't have a good sign and was hard to spot but start at the bus station and it was a few doors down.
At least everyone here knows about it and Im sure the hooker will prob rip more people off.
Zaub. there is no sign, the only way you can tell if it is open or not is a neon sign in the window for beer. (can't remember the brand.)
It's on the northeast corner of South St. & Sumner. Don't bother showing up before 10:00 p.m., it's not open.
Mileage can vary as far as the girls, (so can quality and variety)
"grindage" factor is high, as is the "thug factor", but I've never had a problem.
George is the owner, and makes sure everyone stays in line, just keep your wits going in & out of the club, and don't park in the back lot.
Went last night, but they didn't open. Oh yea, one other thing "dress warm" as George never turns the heat on till he gets there and on a cold night it can be a little "nipply" in there. TOS
[QUOTE=Low Key]Am I spose to do something?[/QUOTE]
Post on here. I know, it's not much and doesn't begin to help make up for your lost time and cash. But - I go there every once and awhile as I'm sure others on here do too. Any girl meeting that description, I'm not even getting a lap dance from. If you have more of a description or stage name post it and I'm sure I won't be the only one avoiding her.
I gotta admit, leaving some worthless keys on the table was a good setup. Heck she probably swiped'em from some other poor guy at the club. But I can understand why that made you feel comfortable. Sorry it happened to you.
- Markus
First and foremost. She is DEF. So a few words with her and you will know its her. Appears very very innocent. About 5ft tall. Small tight body. Blonde hair above shoulders. Goes by Missy.
Now I went back in there to confront her and she had 2 white thuggish type in there so she could run to. Me and my friend looked at them and they looked away as we are twice their size. But a bullet will bring anyone down and I wouldn't put it past a low life in a club so I didn't say anything. She drives a dark tan buick with a fog light out just in case anyone has her follow them and they didn't figure that much out. I will be steering clear of that club for a while, but it is not their fault and the owner has a lack of concern which really bothered me. I would love to call the LEO and tell them things that are going down in there and cause a little feather ruffling but that would only affect the girls that are hooking it up and the guys that are getting what they want, so that won't happen. Like you guys said. Chalk it up as a loss and move on.
[QUOTE=NawtyMarkus]Post on here. I know, it's not much and doesn't begin to help make up for your lost time and cash. But. I go there every once and awhile as I'm sure others on here do too. Any girl meeting that description, I'm not even getting a lap dance from. If you have more of a description or stage name post it and I'm sure I won't be the only one avoiding her.
I have to admit, leaving some worthless keys on the table was a good setup. Heck she probably swiped'them from some other poor guy at the club. But I can understand why that made you feel comfortable. Sorry it happened to you.
Markus[/QUOTE]
The club is closed permanently! It was tagged as unsafe and will be torn down. George has until the 16th to get anything out of the building he wants. Anyone found on the premesis will be arrested. It will be interesting to see if he moves everything to his other bar, Kelly's, next to the Iron Saddle.
TOS
Thanks for the warning -- this is the girl I was asking about in post #647.
You mean [i]deaf[/i] (hearing loss), not [i]def[/i] (Yo, MTV raps)? Now I get it. Just please remember that complaining about a sex-scam to a strip club owner or LEO is akin to calling 911 if someone rips you off on a drug deal. Pretty good chance that only one person will be in trouble and it will be you. Sounds like you didn't let your anger take control which is smart.
[QUOTE=Low Key]First and foremost. She is DEF. So a few words with her and you will know its her. Appears very very innocent. About 5ft tall. Small tight body. Blonde hair above shoulders. Goes by Missy.
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[QUOTE=Low Key]I went to JENS DEN last night and got a few girls dances and what not. Then this def girl gives me a few dances and asks if I want a private party. I said sure how much. 100. I said fine. But I got a friend with me. She said ok. 200 for both. I said deal. She follows me all the way to canton to gas station to the motel and everything. Comes in takes off hoodie and puts keys down. She said she was going to grab a cig. Took the money and put it in her bra on the way out. I really didn't think much. Then see her car bolt. She left her hoodie and keys in the room? So I go down to the club today to confront her and she plays dumb and they back her up. SHE IS a SCAM. I'm not sure what to do. Any advice. I'm not the violent type. I told the owner and he said. So what. Am I spose to do something?[/QUOTE]If you know what she drives it should be easy. Roofing nails. For under a buck you can make all her tires go flat. They don't go flat right away, but they will be flat the next day. You won't have even touched her car, just set them down like you are tying you're shoes. Voila! The ***** is served! A set of tires is $ 200+ easy and nobody gets hurt. She hurts for her offense, and you don't get in any trouble. Several nails per tire will ensure that patching only works temporarily. Sorry you got scammed, not sorry for her tires.
Went to Jens the other day expecting the usual "service." Got snagged by this mid-30s, unattractive, pimply brunette gal who insisted I get a dance from her. I turned her down several times, but she wouldn't leave me alone so I agreed and we went to the back room figuring I'd get one dancem (she wasn't interesting in a table dance). Obviously, I should have just left, but I figured I already have a beer and maybe she'd give me what I want in the back and my low opinion of her would wash away.
After a tiresome dance where I got nothing, not even a fucking hard-on (this piece of work put her smelly ass snatch in the my face once and I nearly lost my dinner), I thanked her and told her I was done. When I went to pay her, she demanded a $20 tip in addition to the dance fee.
I was like "for what?"
She said, "you need to tip me. I danced for you and you liked it, right? That's a $20 tip."
I replied, "Well, not really. I didn't want a dance from you, remember?" -- I only tip if I like what I get (and I always tip well).
She got really pissy and started complaining about the holidays and how she doesn't make any money (no surprise, she's a smelly ho). She must have given some kind of gesture to the bouncers because they came over and demanded that I tip the lady. Since I didn't want to cause a scene, or get my ass kicked, arrested or shot, I paid her the cash and got the fuck out. I spilled my beer on the carpet on the way out in protest.
I'm a decent regular at Jen's and frankly, that was a pretty shitty way to treat a customer who had some serious cash on him. I think that's the last time I'll be going to Jen's. Judging from the description though, I don't think it was Missy, but there seems to be something going on in that club.
Any other clubs out there that are just as good?
[QUOTE=Low Key]I went to JENS DEN last night and got a few girls dances and what not. Then this def girl gives me a few dances and asks if I want a private party. I said sure how much. 100. I said fine. But I got a friend with me. She said ok. 200 for both. I said deal. She follows me all the way to canton to gas station to the motel and everything. Comes in takes off hoodie and puts keys down. She said she was going to grab a cig. Took the money and put it in her bra on the way out. I really didn't think much. Then see her car bolt. She left her hoodie and keys in the room? So I go down to the club today to confront her and she plays dumb and they back her up. SHE IS a SCAM. I'm not sure what to do. Any advice. I'm not the violent type. I told the owner and he said. So what. Am I spose to do something?[/QUOTE]
Low Key,
You've already done everything you can/should do. You lost $200 and were wronged. But there's no sense in seeking revenge on someone. It was a $200 lesson. That's all. I know some folks here suggested ways to get back at this woman, but that's pointless. You only risk getting yourself caught and arrested...or beat up...or killed. If you get arrested you'll spend a couple hours in jail, pay a fine and have a misdemeanor vandalism/destruction of property conviction on your record. If you get beat up, you could lose a tooth. If you get killed, you could die :-)
None of those possibilities is worth the $200. By telling your story here, I'm absolutely certain you've cost that woman what she took from you many times over. If there are 20 guys who read your post and stop tipping her, she could lose that much money in a night or two.
Now you did have an option on the night/day of the crime. You could have reported her and her car to the police immediately. You didn't even have to lie. You invited her back for some fun at the hotel and she stole money that belonged to you. but at this point reporting her to the police is pointless.
If you're the vindictive sort, maybe call the local police and explain to them that you've been propositioned for illegal activities in that club and that you'd like them to "clean it up." Nobody here probably wants that. But that could be the ultimate revenge if you really want to hit them where it hurts.
When to Lucky corner last night they about eight girls there, more than I have ever seen in that place. Why I am making this report they had a girl working that I would rate a 9 on the 10 scale. She went by Sara, she is a blond with a real good looking face, great looking leggs.
I was there Friday night and while my experience was not as negative as the one reported by Swizzle Stick (I ended up declining all offers of backroom dances), it struck me that the place isn't what it was even two months ago. Mostly I couldn't believe how few dancers there were at 8 p.m. on a Friday. None of my regular favorites were there, and the girls working the floor weren't generally all that attractive. Two of them spent at least a half-hour dong nothing but playing video games or messing with their phones - all this while there were probably five customers for every girl in the place. I'm thinking the talent must be moving someplace else, but I don't know where. Any ideas? Club 1245 looked similarly dead when I checked in there.
I drove by Chucks Steakhouse today and noticed they have dancers again starting at 1pm. Anyone have any good or bad experiences there lately? I wasn't able to stop then, but I'd like to check it out if there it's a decent place. By decent I also mean safe. That's a rough part of town.
[QUOTE=Chadcarpenter]Low Key,
You've already done everything you can/should do. You lost $200 and were wronged. But there's no sense in seeking revenge on someone. It was a $200 lesson. That's all. I know some folks here suggested ways to get back at this woman, but that's pointless. You only risk getting yourself caught and arrested. Or beat up. Or killed. If you get arrested you'll spend a couple hours in jail, pay a fine and have a misdemeanor vandalism/destruction of property conviction on your record. If you get beat up, you could lose a tooth. If you get killed, you could die.
None of those possibilities is worth the $200. By telling your story here, I'm absolutely certain you've cost that woman what she took from you many times over. If there are 20 guys who read your post and stop tipping her, she could lose that much money in a night or two.
Now you did have an option on the night/day of the crime. You could have reported her and her car to the police immediately. You didn't even have to lie. You invited her back for some fun at the hotel and she stole money that belonged to you. But at this point reporting her to the police is pointless.
If you're the vindictive sort, maybe call the local police and explain to them that you've been propositioned for illegal activities in that club and that you'd like them to "clean it up. " Nobody here probably wants that. But that could be the ultimate revenge if you really want to hit them where it hurts.[/QUOTE]I am former army airborne, and have served time in prison. You NEVER accept that type of treatment. You have an obligation to make that girl regret her stupidity. In prison, men like you were treated very badly. Top of the food chain baby!
[QUOTE=Baraka1020]I am former army airborne, and have served time in prison. You NEVER accept that type of treatment. You have an obligation to make that girl regret her stupidity. In prison, men like you were treated very badly. Top of the food chain baby![/QUOTE]
Baraka,
With all due respect to your service in the military and with no ill will intended...
I'm not going to take the advice of anyone who has served time in prison. The only reason people go to prison is through repeated foolish choices.
I'll restate my earlier suggestion - getting "revenge" will not help matters. But it could result in you getting thrown in jail, beat up or killed.
I suppose its this outlook that has kept me out of prison or jail my entire life.
[QUOTE=Chadcarpenter]Baraka,
With all due respect to your service in the military and with no ill will intended...
I'm not going to take the advice of anyone who has served time in prison. The only reason people go to prison is through repeated foolish choices.
I'll restate my earlier suggestion - getting "revenge" will not help matters. But it could result in you getting thrown in jail, beat up or killed.
I suppose its this outlook that has kept me out of prison or jail my entire life.[/QUOTE]
I was going to post a comment and then I read yours.
The only thing I would add is that I would not do anything that doesn't benefit me directly. If I could get my money back or the services paid for than I might take action against any person or company that cheated me. But her having flat tires doesn't help me at all.
Baraka; if I were in prison then it would benefit my reputation to take revenge so I would defend my honor so I agree with your advice...if we were in prison. Since we are not, and I don't want to be in prison, I think I would just walk away and spend my money elsewhere next time.
[QUOTE=Baraka1020]In prison, men like you were treated very badly.[/QUOTE]All the more reason not to do anything that might PUT you in prison.
I went to prison for running a meth op. I got what I had due. My creed is that you treat everyone like family till they do you wrong. You handle it how you want to. It would never have happened to me. Services rendered before payment. Sorry if I freaked out any Nancy boys.
[QUOTE=Torchkit]All the more reason not to do anything that might PUT you in prison.[/QUOTE]
The best thing you can do is go there and have a couple of beers. When she hooks another fish, join them at the table and politely tell the fish what happened to you. And then leave.
Pay it forward without a scene and you will be rewarded ten fold. I am sure she hooked someone before you and someone after you.
I once got screwed by an auto dealer. I went back a month later and sat at a table with a customer and told him what happened. He did not buy the car and it was a simple way to make me feel better.
Be safe
Goat
[QUOTE=Goat Ohio]The best thing you can do is go there and have a couple of beers. When she hooks another fish, join them at the table and politely tell the fish what happened to you. And then leave.
Pay it forward without a scene and you will be rewarded ten fold. I am sure she hooked someone before you and someone after you.
I once got screwed by an auto dealer. I went back a month later and sat at a table with a customer and told him what happened. He did not buy the car and it was a simple way to make me feel better.
Be safe
Goat[/QUOTE]I moved to Florida from Ohio two years ago and would go to Jens a lot when I was living in Akron. I remember when there were hot looking, friendly girls. Even the bouncers were cool. I always had a great time everytime I was there. It's kind of sad to see what the place has become.
Great Idea it made me think of going to Montrose Toyota and doing the same thing. We are doing that very service here about SW. Some girls we catch at a bad time and they act bad, but others might give better results so it really helps to have us do this. Plus LE can keep out of the whole process.
[QUOTE=Goat Ohio]The best thing you can do is go there and have a couple of beers. When she hooks another fish, join them at the table and politely tell the fish what happened to you. And then leave.
Pay it forward without a scene and you will be rewarded ten fold. I am sure she hooked someone before you and someone after you.
I once got screwed by an auto dealer. I went back a month later and sat at a table with a customer and told him what happened. He did not buy the car and it was a simple way to make me feel better.
Be safe
Goat[/QUOTE]
She was working there yesterday afternoon (Thursday). But, thanks to the information shared here by Low Key, I avoided her. It's a shame, too, because she was the hottest-looking girl in the club.
I dreamed, that I went there Friday, and met a hispanic dancer. She wasn't that hot, but rubbed my piece, while talking to me about weather and stuff. Anyways, I agree to a dance, at .20 a song. I go have three songs, and am done, and she says I owe her 2.00. I only had 1.20 on me. My calculations, were, that I owed her 1.00 because I agreed to tip .40 during the dances. I gave her all I had, and scooted out of there, to never go back. I am glad it was only a dream, because she was starting to cause a ruckus when I left. How would one win an argument with a dancer like this? I feel like, I should get everything in writing, before sitting in the comfy couch.
[QUOTE=Deploin]I dreamed, that I went there Friday, and met a hispanic dancer. She wasn't that hot, but rubbed my piece, while talking to me about weather and stuff. Anyways, I agree to a dance, at .20 a song. I go have three songs, and am done, and she says I owe her 2.00. I only had 1.20 on me. My calculations, were, that I owed her 1.00 because I agreed to tip .40 during the dances. I gave her all I had, and scooted out of there, to never go back. I am glad it was only a dream, because she was starting to cause a ruckus when I left. How would one win an argument with a dancer like this? I feel like, I should get everything in writing, before sitting in the comfy couch.[/QUOTE]
Well, 3 songs multiplied by the house rate of $20 would be $60. Of course you never agreed to anything else because that would be prostitution.
Overall it sounds like Jens is a good place to avoid right now.
[QUOTE=Zauber]Well, 3 songs multiplied by the house rate of $20 would be $60. Of course you never agreed to anything else because that would be prostitution.
Overall it sounds like Jens is a good place to avoid right now.[/QUOTE]
No kidding. My last couple visits have been dicey to say the least. I get told one amount before and then another after. And I'm going to sound like a polyanna here, but whatever happened to just being able to get a dance in the back room without having everything else on the menu offered and essentially forced upon you? I'm not complaining. I'm just wondering ...
A few things. No revenge on my part. Whats done is done. BUT, everything that has happened there previous has been great. BUT BUT BUT. In my visits I acquired a certain girl I see outside of the club and she is quitting due to things getting bad in there. Drugs are running high in the girls room and there is a black guy who sits by the lame ass pole in there that keeps an eye on the girls in order snag there money for a dope run or for previous debts. This is not a new thing she said but becoming more of a frequent thing. Anyhow, these girls are running on dope boy credit making them burn clients in order to catch up and get the next high. So I would recommended 1245, but I only got lucky in there one time, and when I did she was the hottest I have gotten from the strip clubs in akron. But due to the same piss ass owner I assume the same bull shit goes down in there. Id kill to find a new joint not associated with that owner. Any ideas out there? I went into Gatsbys North and got a BJ in the parking lot. BUT it was from a girl who I knew from Jens Den. So back to the basics. We need to find a new club guys. I know extras can be had anywhere for the right price. But it is just a damn shame that JDs is turning this way.
Before I was into this scene up here I heard lisas Caberiet was the spot for our type of activity. So any kind of hint would be great and I'm sure all of us would support any club and drive our extra funds to the willing girls pockets of this new club.
Also. One thing that does grind my gears is that dumb bald bouncer that looks like he is some sort of hard ass at jens den. He had the nerve to come tell me that I was a liar and the girl was innocent and he knew because he has ancient asian training that costed him 10 grand. First he is broke ass loser that bounces at a half rate tit club for $8 an hour. Second he has never seen 10 grand at one time other than in movies. Third if he had 10 grand his teeth would not be a buttered brown shade that are fucking rotting out of his head. So no one would take a person seriously when they have to put a price tag on things in order to attempt to give himself credit, and while he is spouting off how trained he is you have not option other than to sit and wonder why his teeth are brown and he sits in the back of strip club and watches us get laid, blown and jacked off and calls him self a bouncer. FIRST CLASS LOSER.
Not bitter at all. And if anyone is into mongering trips near and far please PM me. I have been on them and go all the time. So your money that spends in akron spends 2 times as much in other places. Just ask!