Thanks folks! You've helped me decide which MP to visit! Any MP that's NOT in Columbia. That's the worst display of petty, transparent, bull crap I've ever read on this or any other board.
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Thanks folks! You've helped me decide which MP to visit! Any MP that's NOT in Columbia. That's the worst display of petty, transparent, bull crap I've ever read on this or any other board.
Interesting to see the spike in posts in this thread for once, too bad they were 90% drama and 10% usable information.
It seem like many here talks like two place being the same. Well similar address. American Spa is at 652-C Bush River Road. Columbia, S. C. And VIP Therapy is at 652 Suite-G Bush River Road, Columbia, SC 29210.
Two business provide different service as American Spa with little extra.
Looking for a "good" AMP in the Columbia area. Which has the best service New Energy, VIP, or Royal? PM me if you have details.
I am interested and excited to try a massage parlor. I have actually never been to one and want to experience what all they have to offer. These two establishments caught my eye and I have seen adds for them. Could anyone send me PMs about tips / hints / tricks on getting a sensual massage and what good experiences you have had.
Thanks a lot in advanced!
[QUOTE=ColaGuy; 1448887]I am interested and excited to try a massage parlor. I have actually never been to one and want to experience what all they have to offer. These two establishments caught my eye and I have seen adds for them. Could anyone send me PMs about tips / hints / tricks on getting a sensual massage and what good experiences you have had.
Thanks a lot in advanced![/QUOTE]Well. After all the drama, I thought of trying American Spa and see whats up with that. Went in there. Was greeted by a good looking girl. Paid the house $100 for the session and she gave a coupon for $20 off of next visit. Put me in a auto massage table for about 10 mins. Then invited me into the massage room. This room is a multipurpose room. The table in the room served as both TShower place and massage bed. Undressed. She came and undressed to Bikini. I was thinking to myself. Mmmm. Interesting. Started with a TS (the worst in my life). Half way thru with the TS, started to massage my back. This went on for about 10 mins. Then the flip and came the lousy continuation of the TS for the front side. 2 mins into the TS, question popped. Do you have any special Requests. I asked whats on the menu. She said, .6 for topless and. 8 for nude. Then I asked, what next after that. Well just a standard HJ and nothing else. I get to touch her for that period. That was ridiculous. For a lousy massage, do I wanted to spend 1. 6 or 1. 8 for just a F*G HJ. I told her, to hell with you and american spa. She did not show any reaction (may be used to it from multiple customers). She said, she would just finish the HJ without undressing and no touching. Gave a lousy HJ. I went in at 9:20 and was out by 9:45. And the damage was 1. 2.
Lesson Learnt. I decided that I will stick with my usual NE. I love that place (even though the service has gone down a little bit. Still better than these rippers)
[QUOTE=ColaGuy; 1448887]I am interested and excited to try a massage parlor. I have actually never been to one and want to experience what all they have to offer. These two establishments caught my eye and I have seen adds for them. Could anyone send me PMs about tips / hints / tricks on getting a sensual massage and what good experiences you have had.
Thanks a lot in advanced![/QUOTE]Cola,
There are lots of "in's-and-out's" to this hobby that a lot of us have learned by trial and error. Here's some tips / hints that might help you get that "good experience" you are looking for.
Enjoy the hobby.
Dirty.
1) Leave Valuables and Extra Money Outside. Only take in what you need. Some places may want to see your I'd. You will need money or a credit card to pay. I usually take my cell-phone, keys, and only enough money to pay for what I want. If you don't know what the charge will be, put money in different pockets or hide it in your wallet (behind a photo or something) so they don't see all your money at once. I had one girl looking in my wallet after I told her I was used to paying $100 for FS and she wanted $150. Luckily, I had already "moved" the extra money somewhere else and only paid the $100. Use the specific city forums to research and post pricing in the area you are going.
2) Entry into the AMP. Entry can be done in a number of ways. Sometimes, there is a locked door with a buzzer and sometimes you enter like a normal business. When you are greeted, smile and say Hello, to the person letting you in. They will most likely be the mama-san who is in charge of the girls. At some point, either at the front or in a massage room, you'll be asked what you want. Simply state "1 Hour Please" or whatever time limit you want. You'll be told a price and you should pay that to start without talking about any tips or extras. I recommend at least an hour as shorter times may cheapen your experience. 30 minutes is good if you are in a rush or short on cash. Sometimes you pay the person admitting you and sometimes it's the actual girl you pay. At this point, you aren't asking for anything other than a massage.
3) Become a Repeat Customer. This seems to be the number one factor. The providers want to make sure you are "not a cop" and once they are comfortable that you aren't, they will more than likely provide extras. I've been asked many times,"have you been here before?" and it's always good to answer "yes". If they remember you, even better. If not, try and remember the name of the person you saw before.
3a) Get / Present a Business Card. Some AMPs have business cards so you can ask for one on your way out. I have the girls write their name on them so I didn't forget and I could "ask" for them when I go back. Even if they weren't there on my visit, it showed the new provider or mama-san that I was there before. If you walk in with a business card and ask for a specific girl, that's a pretty big clue you're back for more.
3b) Fake Being a Repeat Customer. If you haven't been to a particular place before, act like you have been. Get information about them in the forums for the cities you plan on visiting, or your home town. Find out the going rates for HJ, BJ, FS etc. And have the money handy. Even a little comment during the Table Shower or Sauna such as "this is my favorite part" or something along those lines will make them think you were there before. Do your research before you go!
3c) If you are a new Customer. You can tell them that you have been to other AMP's in another city. This is a good technique if you are travelling and are trying out AMP's in a new city. You can also name a competitor and say you used to go there but you moved and this one is closer or that you want to try something new. The goal is to let them know you've been to AMP's before, but that you are new to their particular establishment. Depending on the place, this may or may not lead to extras.
3d) Prove you are not LE. If a provider thinks you are a cop, you will most likely NOT get any extras. This is why some check your drivers license (although I haven't had that happen). Some are content with the "Are you a cop?"/"no" routine. Others want to be sure so tips like being free with your nudity, placing her hands on your genitals, or anything else that leads them to believe you are a normal guy not looking to bust them. That's pretty much the whole point of being a repeat customer.
4) Get Fully Undressed ASAP. Yes, you will be naked. In my experience, the girl takes your door fee, leaves for a minute or more. Sometimes she will ask you to get undressed, sometimes she won't, sometimes she will and you won't understand a word she said. So use this time to take ALL of your clothes off. My first time, I was standing in my underwear and she told me to take those off too. I felt as if she knew it was my first time. So get naked and if the towel slides off, let it. It will show her that you have done this before. Be free with nudity.
5) Use Provided "Purse". Many times, you will see a little purse or bag that is there for you to put valuables in. Use it to put your "valuables" in and carry that with you to other areas of the spa. You may go to a sauna, hot-tub, shower, or table-shower. Since you won't have pockets, look for the little bag and carry it with you. If they don't have one, you can ask for one. In some places, you may just stay in the room you were brought into the entire time (no shower). In this case, you will be able to keep an eye on your things. If you are leaving the room and are worried, look for something to carry your valuables in. NOTE: Having your things in the little bag is a neat clue to the girl that you have done this before.
6) Bring your own condom. The "purse" is a great opportunity to place a condom where she can see it. If there is no purse, lay the condom on a table or somewhere that is in view. Usually, if they are providing extras, they will provide the condom. But showing the initiative to bringing your own indicates you are there for more than a massage.
7) Shower Etiquette. Some places offer a shower where you go in yourself and wash. If they don't offer, ask if there is one. Some places take you to a table-shower where they put you on a table and wash you. Some places, the girl will wash everything including your genitals. This is a good thing. Some places may ask you to wash your own genitals and I would advise you to do so if you want them to do anything later. It is not generally appropriate to ask for extras at this time. It also helps if you know where the shower is and lead her there instead of her leading you.
Revision 1: A mamsan once told me: Cops won't shower. The level of vulnerability is way too high. No badge. No gun. No wire. It's just too risky. I am sure there have been exceptions, but by taking a shower, you really help put them all at ease, not to mention your provider, who will just be happy you are clean.
8) Enjoy the Massage. It's part of the experience, and the girls usually give you a pretty good massage. If you have a stiff neck, sore legs, or something else, let her know so she can concentrate on those areas. You usually start out on your stomach and she rubs your back, legs, arms, etc. She may brush against you with her crotch, lift up her skirt and sit on your butt, and lean over brushing her body against you. Different places vary as far as touching her, but light brushing on her leg or arm aren't too intrusive and will generally let her know you are looking for extras. This isn't necessary and I usually don't "touch" her until later. This is still part of the "I'm not a cop" routine.
9) Lose the Towel. If there is a towel covering you, do everything possible to get it off of you. If it's covering your butt, roll around while she isn't near you so it gets out of position or falls to the floor. If she puts it back, lose it again. Don't be too obvious but at some point, the towel will most likely be tossed aside. If she is persistent, feel free to ask "no towel please" or something along those lines.
10) Become Aroused. Usually, the girl will try to get you aroused. She'll lighten up the touch a little around your buttocks and brush your skin gently. Shift yourself if you do become aroused to "let her know" that you need room to grow. If you aren't getting aroused, shift yourself anyway to "fake" getting aroused. This will let her know that your johnson is growing and you are getting ready. She may even reach underneath and lend a helping hand if you are lucky.
11) Wait to Flip Over. At some point, she'll ask you to flip over. When she does, simply flip over onto your back. You may or may not be aroused at this point. Either way, she'll know and she'll do everything she legally knows how to make sure you get aroused. This is a time to smile and enjoy her expertise.
12) The "Tip". The girl will usually ask if there is anything else she can do for you or if you are "OK". This is where you say what you want (HJ, BJ, FS) or make the HJ, BJ, FS "motions". She'll either say how much or just ask you for money. This is where knowing the going rate is handy. It's usually $40-$60 for HJ, $80-$100 for BJ, and $100-$140 for FS. Keep in mind that you can always negotiate and it may vary depending on where in the USA, or world, you are. She may leave for a minute or two or she may just start right there. The key to negotiating is getting a fair value. If you offer $20 for FS and she accepts, it will probably be the worst FS ever. If you overpay, then you ruin the great value of the AMP. So try not to stray too far above or below the going rate. I usually offer at the low end (I. E. $100 for FS) and say that's what I'm used to paying. Tell her what you want and a price you want to pay. She'll most likely be reluctant to give you pricing. One thing some guys recommend is leaving the tip out in advance. But, I know some guys here recommend strongly against it, but I have always found it works to strip down, lie down, and have the money sitting on the counter before the girl returns to the room. The only times I've ever had to haggle is when I didn't do that.
13) The Fun Part. When she returns (or starts) , it's generally acceptable that you can now touch her. She may or may not like you to and you have to respect her individual level of comfort. I've had girls get completely naked, sit between my legs, and give me a HJ as well as one that stands there fully clothed doing it. I can't predict what will happen but this will affect your decision to return or not return. If you are getting BJ or FS, she will most likely provide and put on the condom (which I recommend) and she'll start. If you brought your own, she may use that one. Again, if you want to be on top, do it doggie-style, or want her on top, they are generally open to how you want to do it.
14) Variations. If you are into DATY or other things, be up front with it. I've done DATY on a number of girls and some get into it and some don't. Some enjoy when you touch and finger them and some don't. Some will let you massage them and some won't. I've never looked for Anal so I can't give advice on that. Some places will only give HJ. So be aware and look for advice in your local forums.
15) Happy Ending. After the ending, she'll usually clean you up or get rid of the condom if there was one used. Sometimes, a hot towel, a beverage, and even mouthwash are provided. If you paid for an hour and you finish early, you may or may not get the full time limit. Some girls will continue the massage, some will tell you to get dressed. This is another area where different places differ greatly. If you feel cheated out of your time, feel free to express your opinion.
16) Be Polite. I use this motto in life, but the providers are people just like you and me, and they like being treated with respect. During the massage, try giving out a compliment such as "that feels nice" or "your hands are so soft" instead of something like "you have nice tits" or "I can't wait to f*k you". I find that being nice goes a lot farther than acting like an ass. Talk to them like you'd talk to a new friend.
17) Learn the Language. If you can learn Korean / Chinese / etc, you will most likely have an easier time communicating what you want in an AMP. The most difficult part is telling them what you want or trying to listen to their broken english. You'll most likely find yourself in a vulnerable position making the "BJ" motion followed by a dollar amount. Learning their native tongue, or a few phrases, can improve your experience.
18) Post Your Experience. We don't need every detail, but posting in the city forum where the AMP / Spa is located will help everyone with certain details of locations and pricing and if anything beyond a massage happened. Price and extras vary from region to region. If you get ripped off at a place, tell us that too and we'll appreciate you "taking one for the team.
Does anybody remember Carly and Summer from Atlantis and lmr about 5 years ago? They were the BEST? I had a few sessions with Summer when she worked in Charlotte at Ambrosia about two years ago. Also, I had several "very rewarding" sessions with her when she worked at Stacey's a year ago. However, I have not seen here since January. Is she at the American Spa in Columbia? If anyone has. Any information about Summer, please PM me.
[QUOTE=Tension; 1449692]Well. After all the drama, I thought of trying American Spa and see whats up with that. Went in there. Was greeted by a good looking girl. Paid the house $100 for the session and she gave a coupon for $20 off of next visit. Put me in a auto massage table for about 10 mins. Then invited me into the massage room. This room is a multipurpose room. The table in the room served as both TShower place and massage bed. Undressed. She came and undressed to Bikini. I was thinking to myself. Mmmm. Interesting. Started with a TS (the worst in my life). Half way thru with the TS, started to massage my back. This went on for about 10 mins. Then the flip and came the lousy continuation of the TS for the front side. 2 mins into the TS, question popped. Do you have any special Requests. I asked whats on the menu. She said, .6 for topless and. 8 for nude. Then I asked, what next after that. Well just a standard HJ and nothing else. I get to touch her for that period. That was ridiculous. For a lousy massage, do I wanted to spend 1. 6 or 1. 8 for just a F*G HJ. I told her, to hell with you and american spa. She did not show any reaction (may be used to it from multiple customers). She said, she would just finish the HJ without undressing and no touching. Gave a lousy HJ. I went in at 9:20 and was out by 9:45. And the damage was 1. 2.
Lesson Learnt. I decided that I will stick with my usual NE. I love that place (even though the service has gone down a little bit. Still better than these rippers) [/QUOTE]As my homies in the 'hood say "That's what I'm talking about."
I don't know why anyone would opt for a white woman for their hobbying needs. And if you were to get to fist base with a non-Asian provider, you would undoubtedly find that the hygiene was lacking as well as the attitude.
Are there Asian providers who don't go the final mile? Absolutely. Are there Asian providers who have not figured out how to keep their pussies clean? Same answer. But pound for pound, dollar for dollar, your best bet is at an AMP.
LexLuther.
LexLuther
I agree with most of what DOG wrote below, but I would demur about the "valuables bag".
In my experience, AMP girls are scrupulously honest (setting aside the necessary-for-business stuff like lying to cops). I have never had any problem with leaving my stuff in the room, and I think it would be off-putting to some of the girls as a trust issue. (Of course, if the girl specifically requests I use the bag I do).
Would I say this about an "American" operation? No way! But AMP girls generally aren't "damaged" and don't see themselves as sinners and scum-of-the-earth. They might not love the job, but it's like being a garbage-man. There's nothing wrong with it even though you hope to do better someday.
Also,"thank you" is a simple phrase that can go a long way if you use it often at the various stages of your session.
Spaceman, you are correct. I had the same thoughts when I read that post. And I agree with your analysis. Many of these girls, if not most, are very sweet, kind-hearted people. And, despite the fact that they may lack the education, English language skills, or other job skills to find other (to American sensibilities, less dubious) work, are honest women and of high moral character. The simple fact is that they can make more money in less time than any other job they could do. And, of course, there is no need to pay taxes on the income.
But beyond the basic honesty of the girls, it is a good idea to have a few extra dollars and there is no reason not to.
LexLuther
After reading a lot of preparation material (guides, posts, others' experiences) I tried VIP out. It was my first time at a massage parlor and I was pretty excited. Without going into too much detail (not sure what all is a good idea to post) I had a great experience. I was not looking for FS as that doesn't really interest me atm. I was just looking for a HJ. I had a really fun time. My only issue was (and I don't know if it was because of the time of day that I went or that it was my first time in there) I read where you can pick your girl. Well, they showed me to a room where I disrobed and then an older lady came in and she was my masseuse for the rest of my time. I didn't really mind. I mean she was foreign which added to the excitement and thrill. She wasn't really a looker. Can anyone PM me about how to get a young, sexy masseuse if they have any there (or any ladies you recommend). I was greeted at the door by an older woman and was massaged by an older woman. Yet their adds say beautiful staff, no disrespect. I'd use her again. She was very nice and awesome. If possible, would just prefer a sexy younger lady. Some eye candy while I enjoy it. The massage was good as well!
As I begin my adventures. American Spa is right next door. Anyone have suggestions on that? Are you more likely to get a HJ from an Asian MP then an American? I don't know if it was my tactics or if HJ are just that common. Any recommended ladies? I like them proportional and large / medium chest is always nice to look at! I heard they are in bikinis there? The VIP lady was just in jean shorts and a shirt, which was fine by me. Like I said she was older, sweet, but not a looker.
Thanks guys
I'm reading about NE and have seen some of their adds. I would like to try them out if anyone has any tips. Has anyone been to VIP that goes to NE and can tell me the difference? What they liked about each? I'm not looking for FS, just a fun HJ suffices me. Preferably a good looking lady. Since I have never been to NE but I have gone to VIP, would it be bad when they ask "have you been here before?" to say "no, but I have visited others like VIP" to start breaking the ice and passing the "tests"
Also I've seen adds for Royal Spa and it said $60 / hr. VIP I paid 80 / hr but included TS and sauna in the price. Any one have any intel, reviews for Royal?
Thanks Again!
Went to New Energy Saturday night. Met by older Asian at door, she led me by the arm back to the massage room. Paid the cover charge 80, then undresses for TS. I was expecting someone younger to come back but mama comes back. She wasn't young and perky but not bad for an older Asian. She leads me to the TS, we chatted while she washed. Nice attention especially on the flip. Then in the dry sauna for about 5 minutes. Then she leads me back for massage. The massage was very good. She asked to touch the boys. A little rubbing then the flip. No mention of tip. She starts with light strokes then does her thing. She stayed clothed but I was allowed to roam everywhere. I guess she liked me or was horny but I left very happy. She told me to come back soon and didn't even hint at tip (80 total).
Spaceman,
I totally agree with you about AMP ladies being honest, and to watch your stuff at regular MP's. The "etiquette" rules I posted are generic, but adding that info as an addendum is a good idea. I'll add it to my original, and if you (or any of the other mongers here) would like to copy and use this for other newbies, please feel free. I think the more info that newbies have when they first start in this hobby, the better experience they will have and there will be fewer problems for them and the rest of us.
Enjoy it all,
Dirty.
[QUOTE=Spaceman Spiff; 1450146]I agree with most of what DOG wrote below, but I would demur about the "valuables bag".
In my experience, AMP girls are scrupulously honest (setting aside the necessary-for-business stuff like lying to cops). I have never had any problem with leaving my stuff in the room, and I think it would be off-putting to some of the girls as a trust issue. (Of course, if the girl specifically requests I use the bag I do).
Would I say this about an "American" operation? No way! But AMP girls generally aren't "damaged" and don't see themselves as sinners and scum-of-the-earth. They might not love the job, but it's like being a garbage-man. There's nothing wrong with it even though you hope to do better someday.
Also,"thank you" is a simple phrase that can go a long way if you use it often at the various stages of your session.[/QUOTE]